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Spiralistic Hope92

What an interesting take on all of this, it feels surprisingly scientific/empirical and definitely contributes something that feels rather fresh to the interpretations and speculations we have on the lore of Bloodborne over the last few years! I really like how much this contextualizes the actual term "bloodborne" with your focus on literal bloodborne parasites of two types, truly shows how fitting the game's title is.

Your explanations for Ludwig and Valtr's states and what happened to them is particularly fascinating, and linking it all so definitively to the eyes, already such a massive motif in the lore and narrative of the game, is great! The connection to the water is also a good way to intertwine eyes to the other prevalent motif which was definitely very present in The Old Hunters too. I also liked your view of the vermin and how they came to influence the Yharnamites and made them so drunk with blood, it all truly makes me wonder how Yharnam ever had stability and a good reputation for healing people, perhaps they had that equilibrium you mentioned near the end, but it eventually spiraled out of control? Or perhaps they just hid it well and had purges (the hunts, presumably, that could fit the history of the cyclical hunts quite well), and maintained their reputation that way.

A final point that I personally really enjoyed that you brought up was the distinction you made between insight (represented by the slugs in the eyes) and beasthood (represented by vermin in the blood). That differentiation, and the apparent antagonism you emphasized between them, is something I personally always put at the center of much of my own lore interpretation and conjecture on the story, though my focus was more on the thematic contrast between insight/eyes and beasthood/the blood and how that led to two different philosophies to form within the history of Yharnam, creating some of the competing factions that we saw in the game's narrative and background history (Mensis with insight (along with Willem's side of Byrgenwerth presumably) and the Choir with blood, which started with Laurence and his schism from the university to basically create the Church itself). I think your outlook on it from the more "scientific" perspective fits really well with what I always perceived as an ideological and thematic divide between insight as pursuit of knowledge (in the Lovecraftian vein, so it drives you insane) and beasthood as pursuit of physical evolution through the old blood (so transformative, but it went all wrong), what you mention parallels all that surprisingly well, and I really enjoyed that your speculation aligns so well with how I always saw this duality!

Ludwig representing both sides fits so damn well too, I never though of that at all, his first phase is the beasthood, the vermin that drove him mad with bloodlust and frenzy, but then it is dialed back (perhaps we go back in time, since there is a theory you go further back in time throughout the DLC) and you see what he was influenced by first, the "insight" or eyes on the inside that the slugs gave him, showing the other side to his backstory and countenance. It actually improves him as a tragic figure even more for me, that added duality makes an already fascinating character even more interesting and developed!

Anyway, great job with all these theories and speculations, as you can tell, I really found them to be rather awesome, and I am glad this game can still fuel such deep and well-thought out looks into the lore and story over three years after release! It shows how brilliant Bloodborne and Miyazaki's uniquely ambiguous and relative approach to storytelling is, it's so open to interpretation and yet it allows for some really well-constructed views like your own to flourish. Well done again, you should try and do a video on Cainhurst, Annalise and Lady Maria, and perhaps link it to the Pthumerians and Queen Yharnam, since I think those two are somehow related to her!

All the best!



illbedarnd

Excellent video with excellent points, parasites really explain Willem's side of the story and how he has "ascended"/ "started to ascend" without using blood.

The only thing is; I've thought there has been 3 types of parasites/blood.

1) Blooding-Letting Beast blood [Host of the Beast Blood]:
It's body is infected with a parasite and it's blood is infected with Rapid-Poison (I assume the parasite is why the blood is poisoned). Eating this led to the Scourge of Pthumeru, and later Old Yharnam with the Ashen Blood (Blood that must be burned)

2) Vermin:
The two Madaras Brothers had a snake infected with Vermin (they lived in the Forbidden Forest), the forest is infected with poison, snakes, and hosts with parasitic heads; many believe Poisoned seeped from the Hintertomb dungeon into the land. Vermin became infected with poison, then started infected the people and wildlife etc. Hence why snakes are poisonous etc.

3) Blood of Ebrietas/ God's/ Cosmos:
After Burning Old Yharnam to try and stop the scourge/ blood infection. The Choir/ Healing Church eventually found Ebrietas in the Isz dungeon and built the grand cathedral on top. This new blood from her led to created the Research Patients (DLC; Test1), Brainsuckers (Test2; Brainsuckers have no eyes and looks like parasites have exploded out of their heads, so there's maybe more to these), Living Failures (Test3).

Then I think Iosefka discovered how to create the Celestial beings, the true way to ascend humans/ stop the scourge of the Old Blood. But she was killed because The Imposter wanted to become an Infant Great One herself, using Iosefka's research.

--Long winded, but I think the phantasms and Lumenwood definitely solve a huge part of Willem's puzzle. I think there were many things (like this) that Redgrave missed.



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Lukas Aumüller

I didn’t think Bloodborne could become any more disturbing. Awsome Video this is one of the few „theories“ wich I believe actually happened in the world and was intended by the developers

Jordan Sebert

Hey guys any lore I that seems tangible to the actual game I should check out?

Ibrahim Baghdadi

Lukas Aumüller you have no idea

Tyrell Rivera

3:06 I always wondered what Kos looked like when she was vibrant with life. I believe that she was a giant version of this, glowing with celestial light. Imagine this fluorescent being swimming within the abysmal sea. ✨KOSM✨

Julio Acceus

Damn spot on with Simon. His choice to use a bow rather than hand to hand combat reduced his risk of infection.

Spiralistic Hope92

What an interesting take on all of this, it feels surprisingly scientific/empirical and definitely contributes something that feels rather fresh to the interpretations and speculations we have on the lore of Bloodborne over the last few years! I really like how much this contextualizes the actual term "bloodborne" with your focus on literal bloodborne parasites of two types, truly shows how fitting the game's title is.

Your explanations for Ludwig and Valtr's states and what happened to them is particularly fascinating, and linking it all so definitively to the eyes, already such a massive motif in the lore and narrative of the game, is great! The connection to the water is also a good way to intertwine eyes to the other prevalent motif which was definitely very present in The Old Hunters too. I also liked your view of the vermin and how they came to influence the Yharnamites and made them so drunk with blood, it all truly makes me wonder how Yharnam ever had stability and a good reputation for healing people, perhaps they had that equilibrium you mentioned near the end, but it eventually spiraled out of control? Or perhaps they just hid it well and had purges (the hunts, presumably, that could fit the history of the cyclical hunts quite well), and maintained their reputation that way.

A final point that I personally really enjoyed that you brought up was the distinction you made between insight (represented by the slugs in the eyes) and beasthood (represented by vermin in the blood). That differentiation, and the apparent antagonism you emphasized between them, is something I personally always put at the center of much of my own lore interpretation and conjecture on the story, though my focus was more on the thematic contrast between insight/eyes and beasthood/the blood and how that led to two different philosophies to form within the history of Yharnam, creating some of the competing factions that we saw in the game's narrative and background history (Mensis with insight (along with Willem's side of Byrgenwerth presumably) and the Choir with blood, which started with Laurence and his schism from the university to basically create the Church itself). I think your outlook on it from the more "scientific" perspective fits really well with what I always perceived as an ideological and thematic divide between insight as pursuit of knowledge (in the Lovecraftian vein, so it drives you insane) and beasthood as pursuit of physical evolution through the old blood (so transformative, but it went all wrong), what you mention parallels all that surprisingly well, and I really enjoyed that your speculation aligns so well with how I always saw this duality!

Ludwig representing both sides fits so damn well too, I never though of that at all, his first phase is the beasthood, the vermin that drove him mad with bloodlust and frenzy, but then it is dialed back (perhaps we go back in time, since there is a theory you go further back in time throughout the DLC) and you see what he was influenced by first, the "insight" or eyes on the inside that the slugs gave him, showing the other side to his backstory and countenance. It actually improves him as a tragic figure even more for me, that added duality makes an already fascinating character even more interesting and developed!

Anyway, great job with all these theories and speculations, as you can tell, I really found them to be rather awesome, and I am glad this game can still fuel such deep and well-thought out looks into the lore and story over three years after release! It shows how brilliant Bloodborne and Miyazaki's uniquely ambiguous and relative approach to storytelling is, it's so open to interpretation and yet it allows for some really well-constructed views like your own to flourish. Well done again, you should try and do a video on Cainhurst, Annalise and Lady Maria, and perhaps link it to the Pthumerians and Queen Yharnam, since I think those two are somehow related to her!

All the best!

illbedarnd

Excellent video with excellent points, parasites really explain Willem's side of the story and how he has "ascended"/ "started to ascend" without using blood.

The only thing is; I've thought there has been 3 types of parasites/blood.

1) Blooding-Letting Beast blood [Host of the Beast Blood]:
It's body is infected with a parasite and it's blood is infected with Rapid-Poison (I assume the parasite is why the blood is poisoned). Eating this led to the Scourge of Pthumeru, and later Old Yharnam with the Ashen Blood (Blood that must be burned)

2) Vermin:
The two Madaras Brothers had a snake infected with Vermin (they lived in the Forbidden Forest), the forest is infected with poison, snakes, and hosts with parasitic heads; many believe Poisoned seeped from the Hintertomb dungeon into the land. Vermin became infected with poison, then started infected the people and wildlife etc. Hence why snakes are poisonous etc.

3) Blood of Ebrietas/ God's/ Cosmos:
After Burning Old Yharnam to try and stop the scourge/ blood infection. The Choir/ Healing Church eventually found Ebrietas in the Isz dungeon and built the grand cathedral on top. This new blood from her led to created the Research Patients (DLC; Test1), Brainsuckers (Test2; Brainsuckers have no eyes and looks like parasites have exploded out of their heads, so there's maybe more to these), Living Failures (Test3).

Then I think Iosefka discovered how to create the Celestial beings, the true way to ascend humans/ stop the scourge of the Old Blood. But she was killed because The Imposter wanted to become an Infant Great One herself, using Iosefka's research.

--Long winded, but I think the phantasms and Lumenwood definitely solve a huge part of Willem's puzzle. I think there were many things (like this) that Redgrave missed.

illbedarnd

@Bruh Momenter I wrote that couple years ago so I can't remember everything exactly, but I do recall somewhere calling it "The Host of the Beast Blood"; I think this was in the Japanese version or something. But again, this was over two years ago and I cannot remember everything precisely.

Unorthodox

Saw the post on reddit, was kinda intimidated by the lenght of the video but you have some very interesting points which, to my knowledge no one else has mentioned. Nice flow in the video overall too

Away

lmao

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