What everybody else said. It's truly bizarre how "This Could Be The Last Time" morphed into this beautiful thing, and then this beautiful thing morphed into "Bittersweet Symphony", one of the greatest songs ever made. Sometimes you just gotta put down the "you stole this!" pitchfork and torch and just appreciate the music. This to me is a rare, brilliant example of how one song can be made from another and work OH so well. 🙂
@timster1995
Yeah I can still hear the violin riff melody in this version and the way they play the chords in expression even chords progression isn’t copyrighted but the expressed way is and in the same rhythm and the strings and the melody is exactly the same so Bittersweet Symphony is too awfully close to this!
@efan2012
Indeed. It's honestly amazing. The Last Time imo is one of the Stones's more underrated songs, then Oldham did this version which is gorgeous. Then BS came out all those years later and is iconic on it's own right.
@Deep.Purple
Except the Verve got permission from Decca to use that clip and then Decca did what a lot of crooks did... tell them that the deal wasn't enough and they would have to give them 100% of the royalties from the Verves song through extortion. Alan Kline also a notorious crook jumped in and demanded 100% and signed it away for $1. Kline did the same thing to George Harrison. AND if that all isn't enough the STONES took the song "The last time" from the Staple Singers. Which you can still go listen to and hear the same lyrics and melody. The Stones didn't really change anything in the song and the staple singers never got a dime from it. The music industry is F-ed up. Crooks one and all.
@nell580
The verbe just put the lirycs on this masterpiece.
@jorgegonza8681
How about RIDING SOLO
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@Rumeiyuh
It literally feels like you're walking in paradise listening to this. Imagine hearing this live
@PM-vv3uc
Maybe it feels a little bit more like walking down a street without paying attention to passers-by. In doing so, I arbitrarily push other passers-by aside and just walk over a car. I don't really have a clue how I got this idea.
@cllewis1
@@PM-vv3uc Man, I felt the same way and I don't know why.
@jimmanuel9512
I feel like I’m swinging from star to star
@waanaabe-4795
I would word it (IMHO) "feels like Walking in paradise and Drowning the world below with your Tears", especially with the (Verve) lyrics... what the bells do to lift you up, the strings undo by wrapping around your heart SO tight... SO much emotion... why do people listen to songs that torment them? seriously, timeless progression
@eamonnmulhern2332
Quite grand
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@MrTubular13
The Stones had no claim to this, but Andrew Oldham, and David Whitaker who did the string arrangements, certainly did.
@Fireglo
Except Jagger-Richards composed the music. Arrangement on different instruments doesn't entitle you to songwriting royalties.
@gabrielledebourg2487
The worst part is that Mick and Keith were sympathetic to The Verve, but all of Stones pre-‘71 catalogue was owned by Allen Klein, the scummiest man in music biz, so they had no say in it.
@mateusbmedeiros
Yeah, even now people don't understand that, despite Mick Jagger and Keith Richards getting their names on the credits, this wasn't their doing. There's obvious actual pieces of Bittersweet Symphony in this arrangement, but The Verve did get the rights to sample the song, so it's expected to have actual parts of Bittersweet Symphony ripped directly from this. The blame lies with Allan Klein who successfully sued them on the grounds that they used more than they licensed (which is probably true, but still pretty forgiving if one gives at least one crap to the artistry involved).
Allan Klein was very infamous in the music industry because he made artists sell their copyrights to him and then he used them as assets on what I guess he thought as investments, capitalizing on everything he could with those rights.
It took the man freaking DYING for the whole Bittersweet Symphony to be resolved. And the man's name was infamous for a reason. He screwed A LOT of artists during his life, not only Verve's.
@Narpets2112
And yet only Jagger and Richard's appear as the songwriters.
@oliverdavidson8198
@@Fireglo Thank you, mate. Exactly. Thank God these imbeciles aren't lawyers. Transitive property even works here. If A = B, and B = C, then A = C. A is the Stones. B is the bollocks. C is the ripoff artist c--nts.
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@dentonmilton1573
I was the engineer that sat with andrew oldham and dug through hundreds of session tapes to find the original source of this piece of history.
@Jipwell
You’ve gotta upload your findings!
@deadlotCamper
why did you/they need the original source? the orchestral release wasnt enough blatant obvious proof? its where they verve got it right? i personally hate this trend of sampling a well known (or not) riff and singing/rapping over its loop. crappy way of creating art. verve song is great, i just dont know where the urge to do this comes from. i dont have that urge hahaha...obviously the verve heard this piece and made decisions to do what they did "because everyone else is doing it". cool piece of music but not what i would strive for myself. when it is obscure music like this, its marginally ok to do this. copping stones property has ramifications hahahahaha... the beastie boys were masters of this, but they tended to use 20 clips per song and really mash it up. but when p-diddy looped the police "every breath you take" and annihilated the original then i get infuriated. the verve basically did the same thing but with a completely unknown piece that in some twisted theory that stones might not figure it out? would have loved to be there when the first person in the stones org figured it out. wow just wow. idiots. they created their own misery
@Prozak78
@@deadlotCamper You daft or something? You write all of that and don't check any facts? Wikipedia: "The Verve negotiated rights to use the "Last Time" sample from the copyright holder, Decca Records. However, they did not obtain permission from the Rolling Stones' former manager Allen Klein, who owned the copyrights to their pre-1970 songs, including "The Last Time". When "Bitter Sweet Symphony" was about to be released as a single, Klein, then the head of ABKCO Records, refused clearance for the sample(...)"
@SciakkaPRODUCTION
@@deadlotCamper you really dpmt know how this happened? The verve were smart bored teen smoking pots om grandparents basement. They find this lp. They hear the tune and know this is wonderful. They think they are the only one who heard this and factory seems a really shitty place where work for a lifetime. They say if the stones sent us to trial is just free ads and anyway the song will made us popular. And they got it right.
@deadlotCamper
@@SciakkaPRODUCTION ...not so sure they would say it was worth it.
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@dannydorko7075
it was genius of mick and Keith to write the last time. it was genius of andrew Oldham to make it into this and it was genius of Richard Ashcroft to take this song and make it into bittersweet symphony
@LEFT4BASS
Plus Mick and Kieth certainly were inspired by something else when they wrote the last time. No music is really original. It’s just a tweaked version of what the artist was inspired by.
New music is built on previously-made music, else every band would sound like the Shaggs.
@swungover
It was genius of the STAPLE SINGERS to record a great version of a BLACK AMERICAN SPIRITUAL. I love the Stones but they should have given millions of dollars in some way to the Black American community that they very very very much more or less ripped off. If they, the Beatles, Led Zep, and Elvis did the same, for starters, it would at least be a step towards justice.
@HerrVidiot
@@swungover I agree.
@ronj9448
@@swungover I think you are right but the Stones did try to give back by having black artists on their tours which upped their exposure and income for a long time. They cannot right all the wrongs of the world but they were not complete assholes either. Clapton did the same.
@jimcricket8128
Still enjoy the verve version the best. It's overproduced trash and I love it.
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@generalfishcake
1:39 - Goosebumps all over
@generalfishcake
@@ianrobertdavies8605 This original has such a fulfilling culmination - to be honest, it's better than the Verve - not overusing the main theme.
@cristianocarrilloso3343
@Ian Robert Davies Media Archive *Andrew Oldham
@george4821
I can hear the strings from Bittersweet Symphony in this somehow.
@RomarioToretto
You can say that again
@HANIMEME
Some how? 😅@@george4821
@eamonnmulhern2332
36 years on this planet. Heard all the controversy, both the last time and the bitter sweet ..... just found this piece of music today. this is the piece that caused all the bother..... it was worth it in the long run..... what a gem
@bruxinth4660
Had nothing to do with the music; it had everything to do with thieves in suits.
@MarkSiosal
Who's here because Richard got the rights back today?
@TheMoonigans
I suspect someone at "Rolling Stones" did the numbers and figured it wasn't making any money any more so lets give it back to Richard Ashcroft as a kick in the teeth who is probably singing in a working mans club in Scunthorpe. Initially I had some sympathy that this massive band had robbed them but having listened to the original a few times I don't think the Verve had any complaints. Did Young MC ever make any money from "Know How" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wck6YaZytmM
@richp.1234
Me. Can kinda see why the Stones would be peeved. 70/30 split to the Stones would've been more fair.
@eyesburningup
Hello! :D
@raulbd25
here i am
@deanmoore7239
'Bout time I say
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@abilenebibleandbrew9685
The verve just regained their rights to Bittersweet symphony.
@RevGary
first time hearing this and tbh the verve deserve no writing credit for bittersweet symphony - the main hook is clearly this
@marcosoliveira2841
Meeee
@BigWill2k
How much did Andrew Oldham make i wonder, probably peanuts! He was the real brilliance, Richard Ashcroft did a good job and the music video is iconic but creatively he just wrote new lyrics. He lifted the vocal melody from the Stones original and put it over this.
@tangentz0007
I can see why they did not have it to begin with. This isn't even close to the Cold Play and Satriani lawsuit. Which Joe won by the way.
@kWazt
@Jared Chambers and proceeded to hook it to death. what a shit symphony.
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@bestofboastworlds1883
This is an incredible piece of music.
@davidalbino3241
Ikr 😭😭😭
@TheLightknight7
With my headphones listening to this classic instrumental while walking down the street. It's a busy street so everyone is passing beside me. Some people smile at me and some people don't. It's a bittersweet thing I guess. 🤔🤣
@bandspubsthugs1197
Hoxton st. N1 London
@dj-um7el
Both are great! The 1997 version literally just sounds updated. Also, this really holds up!
@VitalikButtring
People saying they can't hear The Last Time, this version is played at a half time tempo.
@sfrenato
This orchestration and Stones' The Last Time just share chords. For the rest they are totally different songs
@valentinaomg6754
0:40 Cause it's a bittersweet symphony this life🎶🎶 😂😂❤
@Quoutub
Wrong, it's not "this life", it's "that's life", this was even printed on the CD cover of Bitter Sweet Symphony. There's even a YouTube video about this verse.
@squ34ky
Actually 1:38
@OSNAYA7R
Tal cuál jajajaja
@WarmVoice
Music is a thread of memory and expression that connects humanity through time.
@slowfuse
So awesome that Ashcroft went back in time to 1965 to write this!
@denisefreitas6727
Nobody wouldn't know this masterpiece if The Verve hadn't made Bittersweet Symphony!
@ericdalton7904
Nobody in your generation maybe
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
@@ericdalton7904 --- Sweet burrrrrrn, man
@virgilio6349
@@ericdalton7904 lmao my dad was born in the RS generation and he only listened to the Verve version on the radio.
@mickyherman445
Yes they would
@mickyherman445
Bollocks
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@vinskeeter
When I first heard Bittersweet Symphony, it sounded like a 60's orchestra to me and it sounded great! I don't know if it was because I had heard this way back when I was a kid or what. The Verve's "version" is one of my all time favorite songs.
@maestro-zq8gu
As someone who loved the Verve in college but my dad is a lifelong Stones fan, well this is just awkward just finding this now... and liking this version instantly more .. it's got that stronger range of sound and emotion that music from that era had and doesn't even have words... I love the Verve version always have and will but... it 100% owes it's existance to a renaissance of music that came way before it.
@dundaravewine2390
Well said!
@hanspeterraatz4928
The words are more important than the music
@13donstalos
The original is a good song, but this is amazing, and it came out in 1996.
@gavin2715
@@13donstalos it was 1965
@Tarantulisimo
So it all started over a sample from this Andrew Oldham Orchestra cover version of the Rolling Stones' song "The Last Time"......There never actually was an "Andrew Oldham Orchestra" -- Oldham was the Stones manager/producer at the time, & he used his musical connections & studio knowledge to create various side projects under that name. The Verve had successfully negotiated the rights to use a six-note sample of said recording from Decca Records, the recording's copyright holder -- however, they did NOT obtain direct permission from another former Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein, who owned the actual song copyrights. One version of the story is that the Stones & Decca agreed to license a five-note segment in exchange for 50 percent of the royalties, but Klein claimed the Verve voided the agreement by using a SIX-note sample. Although "Bitter Sweet Symphony" had already been released, Klein refused to grant the licence for the sample, as Decca Records had previously done -- This led to a lawsuit with ABKCO Records (Klein's holding company), which was settled out of court. The Verve ended up having to relinquish all royalties to Klein, and the songwriting credits were changed to Jagger/Richards, with Ashcroft receiving just $1,000 for completely relinquishing those rights. Verve bassist Simon Jones said, "We were told it was going to be a 50/50 split, and then they saw how well the record was doing -- They rung up and said we want 100 percent or take it out of the shops....you don't have much choice." Ashcroft sarcastically said, "This is the best song Jagger and Richards have written in 20 years", noting it was their biggest UK hit since "Brown Sugar".
In a 1999 interview, when asked whether he believed the end result was fair, Keith Richards said: "I'm out of whack here, this is serious lawyer shit. If the Verve can write a better song, they can keep the money!" Eventually, Andrew Loog Oldham jumped on the money train as well & sued The Verve after failing to receive the so-called "mechanical royalties" he claimed he was owed. After receiving his royalties, Oldham joked that he bought "a pretty presentable watch strap" compared to the watch Jagger and Richards would get with their money. In a later interview, he said: "As for Richard Ashcroft: well, I don't know how an artist can be severely damaged by that experience. Songwriters have learned to call songs their children, and he thinks he wrote something. He didn't. I hope he's got over it. It takes a while."
In May 2019, Ashcroft received the Ivor Novello Award for Outstanding Contribution to British Music from the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers, and Authors. Ashcroft announced that the dispute was over following negotiations with Klein's son, Jody, and the Rolling Stones' new manager Joyce Smith. Ashcroft thanked Jagger and Richards "for acknowledging me as the writer of a fucking masterpiece!" He added: "As of last month, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards signed over all their publishing for Bittersweet Symphony, which was a truly kind and magnanimous thing for them to do. I never had a personal beef with the Stones. They've always been the greatest rock and roll band in the world. It's been a fantastic development. It's life-affirming in a way."
@ElementalNature1
That’s wild. Thanks for sharing., it sounds nothing like The Last Time but sounds exactly like the orchestral version. I’m surprised two old multi-millionaires (even in the 90s) would care so much about the royalties for this one song as to take away the royalties of a much less popular/financially successful band.
@phillhelbig6924
Thanks for that afford. We appreciate this Kind of crime-roman 😘
@ronj9448
Thanks for copying Wikipedia
@leighharris2080
Here we thought it was just a simply lovely song
@rainbowrose9299
I can hear both songs, but The Verve did their own version of this and Richard wrote the lyrics to the song, so they should all get something lol! I actually love this so much, it's amazing
If anyone should have challenged the rights it should have been andrew oldham orchestra
@josephkyle1557
LOL. Andrew Loog-Oldham was their manager. He didn't care. It was Allen Klein and Jagger/Richards who did. But I have to side with them on this. Ashcroft was in the wrong.
@lucasm3879
Joseph Kyle I'm pretty sure it was Klein only, not the Stones. Klein was always known as a ruthless, avaricious gangster type figure in the music industry. He sneakily got the Stones to sign over all their publishing rights when they were still inexperienced. Ashcroft did make something new with his vocals and lyrics. 50/50 would have been fair, and if it was anyone besides Klein, he would likely have got that at the start.
@who7063
I think he sued them for like 2 million
@LEFT4BASS
Joseph Kyle Oldham sued the Verve separately.
@LEFT4BASS
Lucas Maximus honestly, all the Verve did was use a similar riff based on a sample of this song. It would be one thing if they just lifted the exact riff, but they changed it up a little, has different vocals and had permission to sample the song.
All music worth listening to is influenced by previous works. None of it is completely original. Not even The Rolling Stones original version. Just using a similar riff shouldn’t have been enough to steal all the Verve’s royalties for 20 years. It was a different song with one similar sounding aspect.
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@UmTrovador
Man.... I swear I can't reconize Rolling Stones's The Last Time in this song. For me it is a completly new and original song, without any similarity with the "original".
@deivyjose3470
Ikr
@deivyjose3470
this is ridiculous
@McDonaldsDude
Play The Last Time at half speed, then you can hear it like "she tries very hard to please me" you can hear it in the orchestra.
@sergiokeko2637
technically Andrew oldham is a stone
@musicalbliues
At 2.39 very clear This could be" thelast time")
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@dawnsstar5918
When I heard this as Bittersweet, I swear, I had heard it before. I am in my 60's.... I finally found where I had heard it before, when I was 3 -4 years old. Wow.
@asmith121
Man, this alternate version of Bittersweet Symphony is something
@MobinKiadeh
Bittersweet Symphony was sampled from this, this is from 1966.
@orpheus7374
Mobin Kiadeh you sure are a joke killer
@MobinKiadeh
@@orpheus7374 oh my bad I just realised 😂
@wilhelmtm
Sarcasm detected
@ESTEBANCAM
Jajajaja
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@Casey5693
This music, it’s so uplifting and bittersweet and victorious it has brought me to tears.
@Omegaweaponsguy2
I swear upon this song, this will play the day i get married. The bells, the melody, everything just tugs at my heart in ways I've never known. The longing for Everlasting love with that special girl.
@calebsankey6945
You want to play a break-up song at your wedding?! 😜🤣 Haha but jokes aside though, it's amazing what a bit of context and arrangement can do, isn't it? Changes the feeling of song entirely!
@Omegaweaponsguy2
@@calebsankey6945 it really does., doesnt it? this version really feels like a triumphant theme, without the lyrics the Verve added to it. it's the kind of song that says (at least from my POV) "we finally did it, be proud and take it in", although that's just me... hope its not a bad omen 🤣 🤣 🤣
@SpartaYoshi
One of the best samples I've ever heard
@torstenscholz6243
That's what Richard Ashcroft thought, too.
@dj-um7el
Yo Sparta!
@DJC06390
I like both the last time and bitter sweet symphony
@tonyk.9212
Real music by real musicians..... Sheer quality.
@alessandrotaccari358
Bittersweet Symphony, absolutely
@joyusachoobarb
this is totally incredible
@usmh
Listening to this, I can only acknowledge that Bittersweet Symphony is a cover. Everything that's great about that song is in here, save the vocals. What a fantastic piece of music.
@rikindanger1079
This is also a sample believe it or not
@usmh
@@rikindanger1079 Well, a cover, which sounds nothing like the original. Certainly not a sample.
@aelahn
@@usmh cover? where in Bittersweet.. is a section like 2:24? Dunno, it sounds a very important part of this song, it would be in a cover...
@usmh
@@aelahn I think you can leave out a section of a song and still call your version of it a cover.
@denisliber6740
it isnt a cover, they stole it and have the nerve to say that they wrote it...
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@thebigdecision
you can sing bitter sweet symphony on this
@holymimigolightly
And "The Last Time" too
@misturchips
That's because the Verve sampled this for their song....
@sweet.n.soursauce
@@misturchips yeah... illegally...
@misturchips
Really? As long as the originating artist gets credit for a sample which makes up more than a certain percentage of the song, it's not illegal.
@qwertyasdf66
@@misturchips That's covered in the first paragraph about the song on wikipedia.
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@FrancescaGramegna
this track is the foundation of a masterpiece ❤️
@jolinejoline2471
This melody is iconic and a contemporary classic.
@etpicci5915
A piece of music can't be "iconic" by definition (and the term is also used arbitrarily when applied to images).
@hb11912
I can see the similarity, but Bitter Sweet Symphony is such a brilliant and iconic song from the 90’s and The Verve should be applauded for it
@mikephillips8810
Similarity? It's the identical melody and that's the basis for the whole song by The Verve, without it the song wouldn't have existed. Having said that the lyrics and vocals on BSS are great as is the instrumentation. Also had The Verve not made BSS, none of us would have heard of this. Spare a thought though for composer/writer David Whitaker who wrote this but didn't make much money from it.
@acidchurch7619
its not just similar, Bitter Sweet Symphony used this as the sample for the whole song
@MiguelOtoya1001
Tengo que dar mi opinión definitivamente, claro como no un buen oidor de la música contemporánea clásica, perfeccionista, no hay mejor versión que la de uno mismo y si tú sientes algo x la primera tbn lo harás por esta segunda así que no hay lugar para decir está o la otra, las dos son hermosas pero mis oídos se quedaron con la de la legendaria banda The verve. 👏👏👏👏🇵🇪🌎💘😇
@eduardpeeterlemming
Bittersweet Symphony is a blessing
@justmadeit2
You can definetly hear bittersweet symphony in this, but the Verve made it a good song. Richard ashcroft will be happy now he'll get some royalties
@LEFT4BASS
He deserves to finally get his share. All he did was use a similar riff to this song, and they took all his royalties for 20 years.
He changed the riff up a little, had different backing instruments, different vocals and everything. It might have sounded similar, but it wasn’t the same song by any means.
@burtreynolds3143
LoL. All royalties from the song go to former Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein.
@nxsuggested8290
@@LEFT4BASS Similar Riff - its a complete rip off - Whatever you think of the Verve or Ashcroft, his biggest hit and the fame and money he earned as a musician was on the back of a someone elses music with his own lyrics.
Rather than complaining about the money he "Lost" he should thank his lucky stars, because without "The Last Time" Bittersweet Symphony would have never existed.
@Trazgazm
@@nxsuggested8290 The Verve actually got a license to use a sample of this so it's only really a rip-off as much as any other song that samples another, however, they used a little more than was agreed which was what allowed the lawsuit.
@justmadeit2
Just to add, theres a huge folder of decent music in the Playlist part of my channel, over n out
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@greenpeas154
I played it with double speed and now I can finally hear The Last Time song!
@mikephillips8810
Yes same keys and key changes. But the composer of this orchestration didn't get credited, by The Stones, their management or The Verve
@204776439
quite a curiosity, oldham slowing the original song down like this and making a symphonic instrumental version, then the Verve sampling that and transforming into an international mega hit, same chords but totally different song really, fascinating
@dougreckord2409
Is the late David Sinclair Whitaker, the arranger, the one who should get the credit for the lovely string melody that is the heart of this piece and BSS?
@andrewmarinelly5838
This may be the only time I sing the praises of a well implemented tambourine.
@Quoutub
I don't know , but Bitter Sweet Symphony's strings were arranged by Wil Malone. The Andrew Oldham Orchestra didn't use the melody of the Bitter Sweet Symphony strings for strings. Also, the Orchestra version contains the notes of the string melody, but it doesn't contain the exact same sequence of notes. So the final melody of the strings was written by Wil Malone.
@mikephillips8810
Yes he should be. I think it's fine that the credits are now Richard Ashcroft's but would have been a nice touch to have added David Whitaker. It's his string orchestration and Richard's lyrics and vocals that make BSS such a great song. David Whitaker has long since passed away so no royalties to give but Ashcroft/Whitaker on the song would be a nice touch. He made hardly any money from the original recording.
@mikephillips8810
@@Quoutub I take your point but Malone had to re-do the strings I'm guessing because the original recording didn't have enough tracks so he or the producer couldn't separate out the originals completely. Still it's the identical melody which was Whitaker's.
@A.S_0707
This song is an anthem for its melody melody but above all for the unbeatable voice of Mr.Ashcroft
@BobbieBees
To those of you who can't hear the connection between this song and the Rolling Stones version of "The Last Time", speed this song up to 2x. Then at the 1:04 minute mark start singing: "Well this could be the last time This could be the last time Maybe the last time I don't know, oh no, oh no"
The Verve’s greatest song 🙏🏻 Nice to hear a decent cover from The Rolling Stones 🙌🏻
@maestro-zq8gu
Funny!
@HighlandMike325
Dragging themselves up on The Verve's coat tails
@sheilaminogue6521
Apparently the Verve stole the music from the Stones
@805livin4
@@sheilaminogue6521 and the stones stole it from another band
@checynhadi2815
They stole from the BLACK community as usual 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
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@amrsalama911
At normal speed this sounds like Bitter Sweet Symphony, but at 2x speed it sounds like The Last Time
@randyracos198
This is amazing,takes me back and never knew this was even part of the stones' the last time. Wow.
@nashcomp
This is feel bitter and sweet at the same time
@wrathofgrothendieck
It’s like a bitter sweet symphony
@johnclark3431
I was today years old when I learned that bittersweet symphony isn’t the original creator of this magnificent tune
@ulicadluga
1:05 to 1:26 and 2:25 to 2:46 - "Last Time" at half speed. Otherwise this is a new composition. Great, especially the tubular bells!
@Vikanuck
Played at 2x speed, I swear this song can, and should be classified as the world first Jungle beat haha 😄 That sounds fucking sick man 🤟
@JorgeHA7
Omg, you're totally right! Haha, amazing
@electroid8119
haha you mad b**tard!! :-D
@stephenmacartney
Holy shit. Mind blown dude.
@eamonnmulhern2332
Just woke the neighbours with this X2
@craig1538
How can it sound like vomit?
@oscaroscar7904
The verve deserve credit for bringing this to light at least no one would know about it without them, one of the greatest examples of using a sample to show a buried masterpice of music into the mainstream which otherwise would been remained forgotten, using sampling shouldent be looked down on if it helps a song ( and the bittersweet symphonie sounds like this version not the orginal guitar riff from the first version which i would never realise was the bittersweet symphonie version, its this orchestra version which is the great one and that made the verve version so good.) Its also weird how similar the singer of the verve is to a young mick jagger😂
@steffanhoffmann
That's rubbish lots of us 🇬🇧 knew it.
@marcioibcq
O instrumental é extraordinário, mas ganhou ainda mais vida com The Verve.
@alinecunha1205
The verve deu mais ênfase ao instrumental por isso muita gente nem sabe que Rolling Stones é dono da melodia original.
@steffanhoffmann
Rubbish
@user-lg7es7mk1l
0:39 Coz it's a Bittersweet Symphony this life...
@CalicoShoes
The description should be a 1966 cover, not 1996, fyi. Gorgeous song.
@Sergio_clutchmad
1:38 This is the part that the Verve used on their song
@ryanmanley441
They stole the entirety of this track.
@KristallFire
@@ryanmanley441 "stole" lel
@latortugapicante719
You mean the whole song
@ryanmanley441
@@KristallFire Well, they did. They payed for the rights to SOME of the sample and they used more than they agreed to.
@ruaridhgilmour5761
@@ryanmanley441 well they made it 100x better
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@thesound-chameleonman3580
That opening 0:06 riff is out of this world.
C.P.
@FernandoKovalchuk
i love this song!!! " It's just a bittersweet, sinph......." Oh....
@wilhelmtm
Lol
@torstenscholz6243
Stones did it first!
@corovideo
The Bells appears on FUTURAMA intro theme. Another case of Royalties.
@BUSHBOY666
Nope. They are off psyche rock by pierre henry.
@brianwilson49
The whole story of the derivative progression of the original gospel piece through to the verve’s song is fascinating from both a musical and legal perspective. You can hear where the verve’s string arranger got the idea for their string melody from and the entire backing track of their song is basically derived from this instrumental reinterpretation of the Rolling Stones’ song which was greatly influenced by an old gospel song whose roots disappear back in the mists of time. Mad! The creative process - is there really anything that is new or is all art derivative? 🤔
@neverletthemusicstop
What’s the gospel song ?
@Deibbito
yeah what is the gospel song? We need to know please.
@soozisongbyrd
You know what? The Verve turned this into a masterpiece. There is no doubt at all about that. Oasis took the Coca Cola riff to make Shakermaker too. It makes no odds, especially since The Stones gave Richard the rights back in 2018. Bittersweet Symphony is a classic. My all time favourite song
@m4nc0o
That’s why the Gallagher’s drink Pepsi now lol
@thehighllama8101
The Verve wrote great lyrics, but the melody and everything else they stole from the Stones and Oldham. The Verve took more than just a sample of this song. They basically copied it almost note for note.
@soozisongbyrd
@@thehighllama8101 you do know The Stones stole this song too... from The Staple Singers. So its a case of touché
@permafrost0979
@@thehighllama8101 the Verve got permission from the publishers who owned Oldham's version, just not from the Stones. Which makes it so annoying that they sued over a version so different from their own, considering they didn't py any royalties for "borrowing" the Staples' music 🤔
@steffanhoffmann
No i don't know what 😂 I only know right down to the drums they stole it. However YOU dress it up
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@vcc100100
the verve perfected
@jeffj9322
Happy Birthday Andrew Loog Oldham born on January 29, 1944. He is an English record producer, talent manager, impresario and author. He was manager and producer of The Rolling Stones from 1963 to 1967. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Loog_Oldham
@worldwidehey
Man that kick drum and the church bells (taken from French LP psyche rock?) are SO good to open the song
@konstantinosmousoutzanis5991
Thanks to God... It is an divine song! And also the lyrics and the performance of the Verves! God blessed U All!
@jfoust7945
I just cant wrap my head around how this has anything to do with the stones "last time" its kinda in the same key, kinda follows changes, but actually not at all, ive been trying to sleep the last hr but cant stop thinking about how this melody has anything to do with last time. I busted out the guitar to play last time and try to transition it to this and all i an the gf can think of is acid. That or they foreseen the future and knew they could make money off these dope ass riffs.
Anyone help me with this?
@Likourgos_Katselis
Even from the Album artwork one would assume this was done in the 60s. "In 1965, Andrew Oldham Orchestra recorded the song for the album The Rolling Stones Songbook." outtake from wikipedia
@StoneOslo
Me da gusto que Mick Jagger y Keith Richard le hayan regresado los derechos a Richard Ashcrofth. Cómo también debe reconocer que The Last Time en esta excelente versión, fue embellecida vía Bitter Sweet Simphony, en lo personal la mejor canción de los 90's.
@manuelvasquez4945
22 años más tarde
@mickyherman445
Pissoff
@1691980
El mejor comentario que leí!
@claudiodanielmora5287
Richard Ashcrofth 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@leonardoparada4541
Claro la sedio luego de exprimirle más de 40 millones de Dólares en Ganancias . Le lucharon asta la sociedad y luego la soltaron.
@andreasgeorgiou1901
I can see why The Rolling Stones wanted royalties this sounds like a karaoke version of bittersweet symphony even though it came first. The Rolling Stones are class to give him the rights to it though all because of their love of music!
@JamieCoco
20 years later class acts.
@andrewdewis4350
Was it the orchestra or stones
@OKandEZ
@@JamieCoco 😂😂😂😂😂😂 "Class acts"? 😉
@omikronweapon
According to the Wikipedia article, at least Richards didn't really care, he put it down to their lawyers.
@PeteS_1994
No it doesn't to me, it sounds much more live to me and feels different, has a bit of a brighter vibe to it. Not every song requires lyrics.
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@thebandit1974
The rights should really go to the Andrew Oldham Orchestra... ;)
@chrisreardon9822
Not really. They paid to use the sample
@heggy_69
Brianlet
@coronelsakura2841
The merit. Thats all. The Verve shouldnt have been sued.
@adamwhitelock1982
@@coronelsakura2841 - Oh please. The Verve's biggest ever song, what made them, is a blatant rip off.
@maryannemason10
Um... they didn’t WRITE the music
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@staringatthesun861
This is it. This deserves 90% of the credit for Bitter Sweet Symphony. Good on The Verve for adding the finishing touches, but they did just that -- add window dressing.
@animegamingdude
search for bitter sweet symphony vh2 on youtube there is still a song there even without the strings and the sample
@staringatthesun861
@@animegamingdude You have a point. The song could've succeeded even as a folk song.
@lobodestepa
Para los que escuchamos primero Bitter Sweet... es inevitable no reproducir mentalmente los sonidos que The Verve agregó al escuchar después The last..., pero creo que nunca podremos imaginar cómo sonaba realmente esta canción sin esa proyección, creo que sí tuvo un gran mérito The Verve, pues esta versión de The last time pasó sin pena ni gloria con todo y el peso del nombre de The Rolling Stones, sin embargo, Bitter sweet symphony se convirtió en un gran éxito mundial.
@LuisJ967
Es bueno señalar que The Verve tiene muchas buenas canciones en su discografia, a pesar de que solamente son conocidos por bittersweet symphony.
@patriciostarr8573
Te equivocas... esta pieza original... fue sacada del mismo cielo... si bien es cierto the verve compuso una version mas moderna..... a mi que me gusta la musica clasica y sinfonica... este track es toda una obra maestra que me hace imaginar que musica asi solooo sera tocada en el Cielo....!!
@MariPogba35
@@hectorbastias6713 eso es mentira,yo escuché antes a los Stones que a The Verve,y me decepcionó el plagio descarado,no quiero ni escuchar bitter socks
@MariPogba35
@@hectorbastias6713 arte significa creación,no robo, el robó descaradamente
@eduardocastillo6988
@@MariPogba35 jaja creo que ni conocías esto y apenas te estás dando cuenta 😂
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@FRENCHTOURIST
1966 But Not 1996 .
@kevinwong6588
'65 to be correct (date of LP album release).
@slouhend
Released 3 June 1966.
@glenstransportvideos
It was made in 1965 and released in 1966
@londonxrainn
Also it's not a cover like the description states, it is a track that was inspired by the song The Last Time by the Rolling Stones
@pierregreiss4736
The Cover of the verve was in 1996
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@dhpbear2
I can make out "Bittersweet Symphony" but CAN'T make out "The Last Time" ;)
@neilgibbons2532
Same here 😂🤣
@SuperAnimelover100
David Perkins Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, same here ! : )
@nigelcharlton-wright1747
@@munckymagic They claimed 100% of the royalties for the Bittersweet Symphony, which I is unjust, a very greedy considering they are both multi-millionaires compared to the members of The Verve.
@davidocall
@@nigelcharlton-wright1747 it was the manager not the talent. Do some research before talking shit ;)
@gabrielledebourg2487
davidocall Exactly. Allen Klein even screwed over the Stones real bad too.
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@anthonyohara793
I love it and hear it often on Tony Blackburn's backdrop music when he chats ! I can't somehow ever dislike it and find it useful in some events .
@tg72211
So, the Verve borrowed from an orchestral piece that is a cover of a Rolling Stones song that is almost a straight cover of a Staples Singers song that is a blues version of a traditional gospel song.
Wild that the Stones were given writing credits for a song that samples an orchestral version that sounds nothing like their song, which they didn't even write the main hook of.
@sheilaminogue6521
Yep go figure that one out
@silkymilkymememonkey
It’s kinda weird knowing a rock band sampled a song... I always thought only hip-hop and dub producers use samples.
@tg72211
@@silkymilkymememonkey Led Zeppelin were quite famous for "sampling."
@gonzalohiguain2589
Given? If you want something of value you either make it or buy it. Rarely it will be given
@silkymilkymememonkey
@tg72201 Really? Interesting. I never knew that. Do you have an example?
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@mattkai4636
I would love to see a mashup of this and bittersweet symphony
@jasgag1217
https://rave.dj/
@geimenberg1718
But this is already in it so it would sound the same
@permafrost0979
@@geimenberg1718 lol right I'd like to see a mash-up of bittersweet symphony nd the Stones' version of The Last Time
@kabuman
Here is the mashup you requested! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V4G6SWj5BI
@flywings111
Ashcroft had the agreement to use this sample, he could repeat those 4 seconds that he was allowed to use no matter what. Had Bittersweet Symphony been an unknown song, no one would have cared anyway. Allen Klein was just one of the greediest managers in the history of pop music. Now Ashcroft has the royalties but Jagger and Richards still decide about re-release rights, when and how to use the songs etc.
@shahanshah7622
Allen Klein is the worst thing that happened to the industry IMO, Ashcroft was already giving them 50% as agreed upon but the greedy man wanted 100%. But also i was very disappointed about rolling stones. Being that famous i would expect them to support and encourage younger bands. Completely stopped listening to them after i heard about this case
@lyndabotez3274
Interesting that Walmart is using this same riff (the Verve version though) in their new commercial. I wonder who gets the royalties for that? https://youtu.be/cIiDtq1u2JM
@noxvi4753
@@shahanshah7622 but is it the rolling stones that sued? Is it not their labels? Idk why the RS would sue, it's probably their label to get money.
@dudleyrupan5713
True, and they all ripped-off David Whittaker, he was the creator of the original sample. Never any mention of him by the rock gods or their accountants. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/feb/16/david-whitaker
@flywings111
@@noxvi4753 even if it wasn't the Stones who sued them they could have said something supporting The Verve, but they didn't. 👎
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@michaelredfearn9125
Both, great music pieces.
@MarcsWishes5
Y'all shouldn't forget that Brian Jones and his guitarlick made The last time finally great. No one else.
@Monalisacries316
Whatever. "Bitter sweet symphony" will always be one of the best songs with so many great memories!
@kingofcrows8829
This would be an awesome ringtone
@prinzmidas9004
What a sad story, and how ironic. If Bittersweet Symphony wouldn't be such a wonderful song it would be just so sad.
@lw97nilslinuswhitewaterweb23
Looks like it's a bittersweet symphony... that's life :)
@felmac83
I've been Iistening for a while this song.....I don't know, but independently of the original song from Rolling Stones or the re-cover part of The Verve, this version is the very best of the three! Forgive me for the Stones fans, but the song was improved!
@ZinnedineMorales
Cause that's a bitter sweet symphony, this life Trying to make ends meet, you're a slave to the money then you die I'll take you down the only road I've ever been down You know the one that takes you To the places where all the veins meet, yeah No change, I can change, I can change, I can change But I'm here in my mould, I am here in my mould
But I'm a million different people from one day to the next
I can't change my mould, no, no, no, no, no Have you ever been down? Well, I've never prayed, but tonight I'm on my knees, yeah I need to hear some sounds that recognize the pain in me, yeah I let the melody shine, let it cleanse my mind, I feel free now But the airwaves are clean and there's nobody singing to me now
No change, I can change, I can change, I can change But I'm here in my mould, I am here in my mould And I'm a million different people from one day to the next I can't change my mould, no, no, no, no, no Have you ever been down? I can't change it you know, I can't change it 'Cause that's a bitter sweet symphony, this life Trying to make ends meet, trying to find some money then you die I'll take you down the only road I've ever been down You know the one that takes you To the places where all the veins meet, yeah You know, I can change, I can change, I can change, I can change But I'm here in my mould, I am here in my mould And I'm a million different people from one day to the next I can't change my mould, no, no, no, no, no I can't change my mould, no, no, no, no, no I can't change my mould, no, no, no, no, no It's just sex and violence, melody and silence It's just I can't change my violence, melody and silence I'll take you down the only road I've ever been down It's just I can't change my violence, melody and silence I'll take you down the only road I've ever been down Been down Ever been down Ever been down Ever been down Ever been down Ever been down Ever been down
@conorfagan7489
Applemans Cider Ad sig., tune.
@logan2955
I can just imagine seeing this version live
@PDGgaming2005
1:38 bittersweet symphony
@juniord.bedoya9121
Richard Ashcroft, El único siempre!! The Verve Forever!!
@luisivanluckie3848
Esta es la versión de The Rolling Stones del 66
@testtube1195
Who would recognize the stones original in this track? It's completly different.
@carlannerstedt6796
DUBBLE SPEED of the original "Last time" ,
@umutparlak1697
01:40
@testtube1195
I did not say, I don't recognize the Verve, I said I don't recognize the Stones Song in this. No Richards or Jagger ever played that.
@pascalrobert3524
https://youtu.be/I_s90-Hi2ZY?t=87
@davidalexbyrne
This has nothing in common with the stones last time. Had the composer of this piece not mentioned the stones song the last time, no one would ever put them next to each other. And this piece is far better than the stones song. But it was obviously the huge source of inspiration for the verve bittersweet symphony
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@jacobwright609
This bears no resemblance to the original Rolling Stones song. Good for The Verve for taking this to a level that millions could have be a forever memory of their lives
@DeAndresTellez
the melody of "Bitter sweet" is almost there. The violin riff is almost there (one note missing). Damn, the song shouldn't belong to the Stones or Ashcroft, but to Andrew Loog Oldham.
@Zsword92
"Cos it's a bittersweet symphony this liiiiiiife"
@juanpagina4648
Las dos versiones son la mismisima ostia en verso las dos , son para correrse d egusto oyendolas las dos , all right the 2 songs are amazing, una puta locura
@kgthesupreme713
"Come on guys, let's take this picture of you guys all together"
@NightRunner417
What everybody else said. It's truly bizarre how "This Could Be The Last Time" morphed into this beautiful thing, and then this beautiful thing morphed into "Bittersweet Symphony", one of the greatest songs ever made. Sometimes you just gotta put down the "you stole this!" pitchfork and torch and just appreciate the music. This to me is a rare, brilliant example of how one song can be made from another and work OH so well. 🙂
@timster1995
Yeah I can still hear the violin riff melody in this version and the way they play the chords in expression even chords progression isn’t copyrighted but the expressed way is and in the same rhythm and the strings and the melody is exactly the same so Bittersweet Symphony is too awfully close to this!
@efan2012
Indeed. It's honestly amazing. The Last Time imo is one of the Stones's more underrated songs, then Oldham did this version which is gorgeous. Then BS came out all those years later and is iconic on it's own right.
@Deep.Purple
Except the Verve got permission from Decca to use that clip and then Decca did what a lot of crooks did... tell them that the deal wasn't enough and they would have to give them 100% of the royalties from the Verves song through extortion. Alan Kline also a notorious crook jumped in and demanded 100% and signed it away for $1. Kline did the same thing to George Harrison. AND if that all isn't enough the STONES took the song "The last time" from the Staple Singers. Which you can still go listen to and hear the same lyrics and melody. The Stones didn't really change anything in the song and the staple singers never got a dime from it. The music industry is F-ed up. Crooks one and all.
@nell580
The verbe just put the lirycs on this masterpiece.
@jorgegonza8681
How about RIDING SOLO
@Rumeiyuh
It literally feels like you're walking in paradise listening to this. Imagine hearing this live
@PM-vv3uc
Maybe it feels a little bit more like walking down a street without paying attention to passers-by. In doing so, I arbitrarily push other passers-by aside and just walk over a car. I don't really have a clue how I got this idea.
@cllewis1
@@PM-vv3uc Man, I felt the same way and I don't know why.
@jimmanuel9512
I feel like I’m swinging from star to star