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Andy Baum (born 24 December 1957 in Linz, Austria) is an Austrian musician in the Austropop style.

In 1978, at the age of 21, he performed in the Popodrom competition in Vienna as the guitarrist for the group Stonehenge. In 1980, Stonehenge (with Baum as the lead singer) won a battle of the bands competition in Liverpool in Great Britain, and became the first Austrian band to tour through Great Britain.

Andy Baum had several successes, primarily in the 1980s. From 1982 - 1984 he was a member of Hallucination Company. From 1984, his band Andy Baum & The Trix performed as the backup band for Dana Gillespie. During the autumn of 1986 he experienced his first success with his song "Only A Whisper." "Still Remember Yvonne" was his first chart success (reaching number 17) in 1988, and his song "Slow Down" reached number 10 in the Austrian charts in 1989. Baum also worked as a composer for films and a music producer.

The oldest of three sons in a family of artists, he has two children himself.

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Most interesting comment from YouTube:

Coding with Lewis

4y↑546

This clip really shows how consumers will ultimately choose what they want even outside of the developer's preference.
Here is some extra context with this clip:

The man who was annoyed is a software developer who used OpenDoc and was upset that Apple cancelled development of it at this press conference. His demeanour towards Steve Jobs was insinuating that he is a big bad businessman wanting to cancel it.

OpenDoc was an application framework developed by Apple to allow all features of a program to be "components" where they can be reusable across different applications. This sounds great in theory but proved to be very memory consuming and despite the initial thought of it being better for the developer and the consumer, it only proved to be better for the developer and not the consumer.

Steve Jobs mentions this in his response. "You can't start with the technology and try to figure out where you're gonna try to sell it" 2:00. At the end of the day, consumers want simplicity and great software. People are just going to be pissed off at first.

Great reply from Steve.

All comments from YouTube:

Palter187

4y↑15.4K

Basically telling him "You're right, but it doesn't matter" 😂

Palter187

@Wykowski Exactly

Wykowski

1y↑1

Exactly. His point was objectively truthful, but it doesn't matter how good is a technology if it won't sell and won't please costumers. It shouldn't be good in the micro, it needs to expand to the macro. That's what Jobs tried to explain there.

CarverAtYouTube

nope 🤷‍♀️

Palter187

@Paolo 300 Makes you think, doesn't it?

Paolo 300

1y↑1

How did a comment that’s not even right get 15,000 likes?

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JONXD

3y↑923

The pause before his answer I think is something we can all learn from. Instead of getting heated and just flap out something stupid and not thought through, he went and put his answer together first and instead of just focusing on the guy asking the question, he answered with an answer for the whole crowd. I'm glad this popped up in my suggested videos!

troy lee

@KarlHungus211 Yup! Can you imagine Donald Trump response…”Get this loser outta here!” 😄🤦🏻‍♂️

Electric paisy

@h00d b0ii not this time though. At the end it was the invention of the smartphone as we know it today that made apple big. And it this point they gained so many diehard fans whom they could sell every shit. And then they started milking. I don't compassion about them being big, I just hate that people are dumb enough to buy all their overpriced shit no matter what they do, dumb enough to few all for Steve Jobs in moments like this when it even already turned out that he was wrong back then.

h00d b0ii

@Electric paisy they all fell for it though, and in the process made Apple the most valuable US company being worth trillions of $

Carlos Alvarez

@Electric paisy fall for what man? You make no sense. He straight up told the man why his whining was a casualty along the way because decisions were made which in turn created mistakes along the way pissing people along the way. History proves you wrong because I own a MacBook and I paid top dollars for it and I'd happily pay top $$ for another one. LOL

Electric paisy

@Carlos Alvarez how has history proven me wrong? He told how it is but in a way that it seems like its cool which it's not. Some people were stupid enough to fall for it, some weren't.

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Daniel Ally

3y↑346

Great way to avoid getting defensive!

Mohammed Walid

all I see are stupid comments begging for likes and views, as usual.

Blankett

@Male Karen Jesus christ guys.

Male Karen

3y↑1

@Blankett top? he barely got any likes

Blankett

@WiZarD except thats not how it works. Its automatically always bumped to the top what are you talking about?

WiZarD

3y↑2

@Blankett I mean any one can comment any thing, blame the people who upvoted this useless comment.

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Passione Motori

2y↑1.2K

"what have you been doing for the past 7 years" quickly proceeds to hide in the crowd 😂😂😂

Vaibhav Shah

2y↑1

@LucaTurilli89 he ignored the second question because it was a rhetorical question and was meant as an insult

newmediarules

Who was that guy? Where is he now?

That moment alone could serve as the cornerstone of a mini-doc.

Jagar Tharn

@Jean Roch oh ok ty

Jean Roch

2y↑1

@Jagar Tharn riiiiiiight because you've never met someone who buries the lead right after admitting something they don't want to. My ego is just fine, thank you.

Jagar Tharn

@Jean Roch One of the first things he said was that his accuser was right. Your ego won't even let you watch videos before commenting on them. Sad.

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D Elite ones

2y↑24

Definitely some of the best from the man so many loved to hate. When you realize "Hate is just love looking for a better way to express itself," it becomes apparently evident that a genius is someone who can benefit from either expression.

Rudy Ayoub

4y↑34.9K

Ah man youtube is about to push this video to everyone and their uncles

PaleoVirus

Still pushing

Zony Zhao

@E Yeah, I don't understand that logic either. Is laser printer customer-product or tech-product?

C Rohmer

K thx for telling us

L Ron Hubbard

This video is randomly displayed , you don't know computers.
Youtube is not a person, It is algorithm.
Nobody sits behind a computer and recommends a video to you. It is through computer.
It doesn't know you and your uncles.

Radical Skeptic

oh fancy seeing you here!

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Ancient Paradox

3y↑166

Classy and well done response. Admits to his limitations, acknowledges the complaint without attacking the man, and gives other people credit. That was some good leadership there.

Dawid Dulian

3y↑9

@New Projects he actually did answer both questions: he didn't know much about stuff the guy asked about, because for the past years he's been working on understanding customers' needs and giving directions on how to do that to the development teams
Edit: also, how else is business supposed to work, Jobs had his own vision and shift of interest so he decided other things were better idea to develop than the OpenDocs

New Projects

3y↑5

His response came of like a political speech to me... redirecting the attention of the matter instead of answering his question directly (the guys who asked was probably upset because of OpenDocs, which is reasonable and valid because the years, time, and money invested into it essentially went to waste) so I wouldn't say it was good leadership and just because his speech contained almost no fillers didn't mean he was exactly being direct with his answer. Just notice how he mentioned about making a product that would make 10 billion dollars a year and how he would see his products through the eyes of the customer instead of engineers that could make the next best things of technology. Both of those are irrelevant to his question regarding the discontinuation of OpenDocs. Again, redirection

Ako si Wokkawokka

2y↑202

"start with the customer experience then work backward to the technology" epic statement in which the computer software design industry today no longer adheres to.

Mike Watkins

oh no they still do, the average technology purchaser isn't their primary customer, however. The person buying all of your personal information from their "customer metrics" harvesting is their primary customer. You are the product.

Vignesh M

1y↑3

Entire web 3 comes to my mind when I hear it.

Bullseye

2y↑6

Nowadays it's more like start with a sellable story and work your way to a SPAC.

Kevin Yoo

2y↑5

It's amazing how that statement holds up. Meta and NFT's come to mind when I hear that statement.

JSU's n Bhdjnfj

3y↑1.3K

Apple then: what can we do for the customer?
Apple now: what can we get from the customer?

Damian Wójcikiewicz

Totally agree! No even 2x optical zoom in basic iPhones, no f 120. hz, no even 4x optical zoom in Pro, no Pro mode in pro models.., expensive Mac wheels and iShit cloth.. it's hilarious what pathethic Tim makes.. he would make a blowjob under the table to not get more money, not quality

Icaro jose

@ForeverTrashit was actually a good move, if you don’t think why did all other companies copy apple ?

Joel

@ForeverTrash I was a grumpy iPhone 6s user until 2020. I loved my cheap wired headphones that I bought in a three-pack. I loved being able to plug my phone into any aux cable.

But here I am today with a 14 Pro. And AirPods Pro. And I freaking love them. His philosophy still applies; my current technology experience is far superior because Apple put customer experience first. They knew better than me and I can admit it now.

Heckin Based and Inkpilled Octopus

That’s literally every for-profit company

BassByTheBay

2y↑1

@T. Right. What makes you think I said otherwise? As I've already said in this thread, the OP said that Apple went from caring about customers to only caring about money. I pointed out that, based on Jobs' remarks, the company always cared about money. Nowhere did I say anything is wrong with that. Obviously companies need to make money or they cease to exist.

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Jeff Harris

1y↑3

I just love how he doesn't stop talking to receive applause. He knows what he is saying is gold, and he is confident about that and doesn't need recognition for it.

Coding with Lewis

4y↑546

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@Entre Guitarras e Violões 💯 true

e7tfl m3na

Iu Iulitza absolutely true, Trump killed it..there was once a country called America

Soon Hong Chan

4y↑1

Great understanding of the response. Thanks for sharing.

Entre Guitarras e Violões

4y↑1

Pagani Zonda , oh sure... TikTok is a comunism-child-eater and personal data spyware, but Google's world biggest database is a capitalism-world-saver-purpose, that only wants to sell products to raise funds to build koalas and lions sanctuaries, while we navigate on YouTube.

What is interesting is that Hawuei and other Chinese technology companies are seen as unfair and slave-like-employers if they rise and spread all over the world quickly and powerfully enough to take US companies' market places. But all the US companies that installed their offices and industries in China, to take advantage of all the cost saving process are seen as world examples of fairness and whatelse good words you may want use.

You can't love TikTok 'cos it's privacy destroyer but you can love Facebook 'cos it's just a "virtual memory workout guru". Wow...

Zhou Wu

@James Hassinger I guess that's true. Why not? What does he have to lose? Except his career? Might as well get that grievance off his chest.

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Swordshredder

1y↑13

This is a prime text book example of how to handle a aggressive question.

OnLy Gameplay

Evade the question?

S. Oddity

*an

You Steve jobs riding homosexual

henry mann

2y↑32

It’s amazing how he doesn’t take this personally or get defensive!

James R

2y↑1

And manage to not answer the question.

Daniel Ally

3y↑177

So what happened in those last 7 years? Lol.

chy03001

He supplied the vision. He pointed in a direction and said "that's where we go if we want to succeed" and he was right. He might not have built the first iphone by himself in a cave, but he knew what the iphone needed to be when it was finished.

William Poupore

@DB Cisco Correct. So what?

If there’s an actual point you want to make, just say it. These flippant little comments contribute nothing to the discussion.

If you’re talking about Apple stealing the IP behind WIMP GUI from Xerox… I can only guess since a complete thought is something you’re either unwilling or unable to express… you’d be wrong again. Apple paid Xerox. 🤷

DB Cisco

@William Poupore Jobs co-founded NeXT after Apple fired him.

William Poupore

@DB Cisco yes, and unlike you, I don’t turn into a rude jerk when I’ve got nothing to say.

You clearly don’t know nearly as much about Apple, NeXT, and Steve Jobs as you think you do. Resorting to insults when it’s pointed out to you isn’t necessary.

DB Cisco

@William Poupore Are you from this planet ?

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Alexander Rodriguez

1y↑4

Most educational. Thank you Steve and Jonathan for keeping this wisdom alive. <3

Tom

4y↑2.9K

No matter what your opinion of him, look how he actually THINKS about his answer, he's happy to let the silence fill the air for a moment... How often do you honestly see that from anyone answering difficult questions live these days?

Heather in Kansas

@cyclopticow
Bro. I see you left this reply one Hour ago. I left my comment two YEARS ago. I don't remember this video, and I'm not gonna read some old thread, lol.✌

Albatboss E

and how he holds the water bottle like a huge dong

cyclopticow

@Heather in Kansas Q: What do you want for dinner tonight and why weren't you at work when I called you earlier? A: I'm sure there are many things we could eat. Did you know that people have been eating for thousands of years? They've eaten vegetables, meat... everything really. But, in the end, what people really want is something that tastes good and is reasonably priced. I know that in the past, some people have avoided mentioning exactly what they want to eat, and I know that that has frustrated many a chef. Hell, I know that perhaps even I have done that and if I have, I apologize. But you know, many families at Apple, every day are making meals. Meals that are better than have been produced in the past, and they've been working damn hard at it.

Johannes

Obama also does that a lot.

Joshua Long

Bro he just did what they all do. Not answer the question and say something that they feel is good that they have done. Phil Spencer from xbox does this all the time.

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tonystark001

3y↑203

Mental note: Always have a bottle of water with you when you're about to answer a important question.

Ronald Colin

2y↑9

I practice that pause when someone ask me a tough question, i look down in a thoughtful way. And is amazing that people actually stay quiet awaiting the answer and is not even awkward.
However, half the time i cant come up wt an eloquent answer 😆😆

Phil Taylor

2y↑14

to throw it at rude people in the audience.!

FACT NOW

3y↑4

Steve Jobs♥

FinnishArmy

3y↑4

He waited to actually think of a response. He didn’t let a room full of hundreds of people force his thoughts, he took his time.

Semi AUStral Ants

3y↑76

The original Nintendo wii was a great example of what he speaks about in terms of starting at the customer's experience.
The wii was technically a weak machine even compared to other consoles of the time.
The fact it did so well, was purely down to the experience it offered!
It wasn't far from Nintendo's greatest achievement

Jonathan Dunning

2y↑1

@goob Yeah Ps2 was the cheapest dvd player around, and it played games.

Phil

2y↑1

absolutely right. Not only kids, and teen and 20-somethings had one. Their parents and grandparents likely had one too.

goob

@Casshern Sins I feel like the switch only has the games really going for it and the portable aspect wasn’t the main pull for me but it’s probably different for others

Casshern Sins

2y↑2

@goob also the switch

goob

3y↑3

Very true, same sorta thing with the PS2 to a lesser extent and the DS

HenrYYY1999

4y↑2.5K

Just love how he simply dodges the question by delivering a speech about why the question is basically irrelevant in the bigger picture :D Genius

Carlos Alvarez

he didn't dodge the question. He clearly explained that OpenDoc was a cool technology but basically wouldn't sell as part of a greater product vision. You are probably a tech guy with no idea about how markets actually work.

ностромов

Very relevant, just like Microsoft buying into the Linux kernel and purchasing GitHub is today. No other purpose than to ruin a good thing, steal and exploit. The "bigger picture" is ~~almost~~ always exactly what you see.

Yuu Koito

B Ready TV XDDDDDDDD

Yuu Koito

@andrei115 LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

5ped 0f s0und

Fred Davis no, you don’t have to apologize, but the thing is that you made a grammatical error, which kind of ruins your cause... but I guess it’s good that you edited it

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MisterFilOfficial

2y↑42

Don't start with "what". Start with "why".

aristodiga82

Why is Gamora?

MisterFilOfficial

@darookmezd not in a conversation. In choice making obviously. Jeez.

darookmezd

Why have you been doing for the past 7 years?

Don T. Ripfüller

What? Why why? Wait...i mean...lemme try this again...How is "why"...no...um...Who came up with this idea of what should be the start of I meant why should be the start of ...I mean...you know what? I'm done. Don't ask ___...

Mbeu Kambuwa

3y↑130

The fact that years later I’m watching this on an Apple, speaks volumes.

Juan

2y↑2

I am watching it on a MacBook, i could not make YouTube work on a fruit yet.

RealYoda???

Literally

talisman1976

2y↑5

I read this comment, laughed, then realized I was doing the same thing.

Jeril Nadar

3y↑20

He never insulted the person but took it positively.

Stars Melting On Ice

1y↑2

His vision was/is so clear and you could see it through this example of how he articulated himself.

Apalapse

3y↑4.5K

This is a really skilled response but kind of gives me "politics-type" answering style - answer half the question and the other half spin it into a positive with your own narrative.

Noah N Copeland

tbf, it wasn't a question. it was a jab thinly disguised as a question.

SolidHQX

@Someone Else No that simply doesn't cut it, sure he was a great salesman but just being a great seller isn't enough to found a company like Apple and lead it to the success it became. He founded the company and reinvented it after he returned.

And don't forget he also founded NEXT and though not founding Pixar, he did built Pixar into a major animation studio that made him a billionaire. Again, you don't have to like him, the man had many flaws, but downplaying his actual achievements is spiteful and childish.

Justin Cavinder

Well yeah, it’s like a job interview where you’re selling yourself. Spin any negative into a positive. This a company, they aren’t going to acknowledge any negatives.

Someone Else

@Aurijit Chatterjee It wasn't because of their Macs, though.

Someone Else

@SolidHQX Not really one of the greatest entrepreneurs, rather one of the greatest salesmen.

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Jeff Bromley

2y↑14

What a man, hard to imagine people walking out of his meetings crying because he pushed them to the brink

Zachariah

2y↑1

Sometimes the truth hurts. It can also be very valuable to have someone tell it like it is, no sugar coating, and keep you on your square and on your deen.

kitty62862

2y↑3

Steve Jobs knew when not to BS. An innate ability severely lacking in today’s corporate world.

NobleEdge Consulting

2y↑1

I use this clip for my clients to demonstrate how to respond and not react to conflict. Say what you will about Steve Jobs, but in this instance, he managed the conflict brilliantly.

Dean Sundquist

1y↑1

Seen this video multiple times. Something today hit me even more than before, that is so very true about Apple today. Starting with the user experience and working backwards. Its crazy how many companies that are missing this. I feel the monoliths of the 80s that are starting to really struggle (or already have failed) fell to this simple fact. I hope those of the 2020s looking to drive industries can really take these words to heart.

Just love how decades later, this feels so true today.

Christian Hegele

4y↑3.1K

In fairness to the dev who asked this question, he was responding directly to Jobs's previous answer where he said some arguably questionable things. Like how grumpy engineers who he fired from Apple "hadn't done anything in seven years" and that, justifying his termination of Open Doc specifically, "there are some things in the Java space that I think are much better." (which if you know anything about these technologies is a total non sequitur).

The dev is clearly pissed off and rude, but you have to place his adversarial "question" in context of what Jobs just said.

Christian Hegele

@Yuri Scaramussa He was probably referring to NeXT, I guess.

Yuri Scaramussa

What I dont get is asking about what jobs was doing. Wasnt he having huge sucess outside apple (pixar as example)

Maheysh Ramesh

Thanks I was trying to understand why he was angry and what was the question...

Borislav Mitev

@Bi polar bear, that is the thing about SJ that people were saying in other post under this video, the guy was a bully, and it this particular case he did just that, he bullied back the person who asked the question.

Claudia Bothner

@Relentless Kevin Not necessarily telling ot his own values. He may just state what he knows or has observed to be the case today.

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Fred R

3y↑3

Apple will never be the same. He was the mastermind and visionary.

Daily Quotes #shorts

2y↑4

"You can please some of the people some of the time!" is very true! I do agree with his response. It is very clear !

Martin Andreas Kruse

2y↑5

"And I think we're gonna get there." - oh yes, Steve, you sure did! Inspirational man and genius CEO! Yes, personally and professionally he had his ups and downs, but Apple wouldn't be Apple without him. It wouldn't be here today, if it wasn't for his return to Apple, basically acting like Apple's managerial scapegoat, after years of f***-ups.
Miss him and his reality distortion field.

Electric paisy

ruthless is an adjective without which he would never had been that successful. I'm impressed as soon as someone makes this much money without selling his soul to the devil.

Path

Seriously man. Niggas hate on him like crazy as if they’re not hating on from an iPhone lmao. Dude changed how the hell we view phones.

El.blanco

3y↑24

Back when we were ok with publicly asking tough questions and answer them with real honesty and passion, at least for jobs.

Into the Fluid

2y↑1

Back when we were okay with having prepackaged answers to the tough question we knew we'd be handed you mean

Beau LaMontagne

2y↑10

Say what you will about his personality, Steve Jobs was a raging life force. He didn’t talk bullshit. When he had something to say it was almost always worth listening to. Utter genius. Miss him.

keb botnet

@Beau LaMontagne It's all good, I didn't really think you missed him. Just wanted to correct the "He didn't talk bullshit" comment because the guy was a master of talking bullshit at these events, lol.

Beau LaMontagne

@keb botnet I’m sorry for making you think I cared that much. 😕

keb botnet

His entire answer was bullshit. That was his skill; marketing speak. He didn't really address what was a very valid criticism. Read up on the history of OpenDoc and Apple, and basically how Jobs discarded a legion of engineers while being very disrespectful about it. If there's anything to take away from this, it's that Jobs was a brilliant and profitable sociopath.

criztu

2y↑2

I suspect the Chinese in Apple City have a copy of him, not perfect but does a pretty decent job, for cheaper price

J C Brookes

2y↑1

Beautifully done by Jobs. You have to remember that in the mid 90's Apple was a basket case, run by people without vision. They made beige boxes that were unreliable and expensive. Everthing that came after MacOS 7.1 was basically dodgy. Jobs turned around the Titanic. But from the arrival of the iMac to OS X, it all turned round and headed in the right direction.

wannbeewiser

3y↑19

I love the way he paused to check his ego before he ran with the "you might be right..." approach

j g

3y↑2

It was faux humble, he said the asker was right about something that is irrelevant.

Eboy Jim

2y↑2

It's that "if you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs" thing. I've worked with people like that gentleman in the audience and they create nothing. They serve a dwindling base of customers and think tactically rather than strategically until the company runs out of customers and shuts down. The funny thing is, whether you hate Apple or not, what Jobs is saying here has become the industry best practise for developing new products. It wasn't always that way. Google, Microsoft, etc. have all ended up making better products because of Apple's product development process. There's not a tech company today that's successful that doesn't operate like this.

John Ferguson

3y↑5.5K

The main lesson here is to how to defend yourself without actually attacking your critics.

Christopher von Bronsart

@Bubba Guy actually he did in a broader way. tech (open doc) is irrelevant if you don't know what it's for.

Sidha Sudharshan

@Zipy some people see partisan politics everywhere. Sad.

MetaliCatso

just answer the fucking question and if you don't have an answer, admit the loss, don't be an asshole

thedarkness125

He dodged the question and fooled millions of I-idiots into thinking apple is a worthwhile product.

L Ron Hubbard

This is an interview , you deepshit.
Not a political debate.

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Dominick Destine

I clicked expecting a quick BTFO but wasn't prepared for 5 minute video. The fact that Mr. Jobs took that insult and turned it into an opportunity to properly explain really sells what an amazing man he was.

R H

This guy is just so inspiring

Cogitare logicae Sentire Internum

I miss Jobs. He was a visionary

Edward

2y↑1

Start with the customer experience and work backwards from there to the technology. Man that is powerful. What an amazing and inspirational man he was.

Dave Rohrich

And the moment he died, they threw that philosophy out the window.

TheVic

4y↑614

The brilliance here, (and you see politicians do this too) is to not answer the question directly, but to push your own ideas in a manner that the audience would find agreeable.

Noah N Copeland

2y↑1

tbf, it wasn't actually a question to begin with. it was a jab disguised as a question, and poorly so.

Valentin Bernard

@Jota you nailed it

a single white female

4y↑4

There is nothing to be gained from answering a question like that.

Bill Cipher

4y↑2

Jacob Dunham But he answered the question...

Jota

4y↑6

The thing is, that most of the time they don't even try to answer, they just can't. Steve Jobs wasn't a genius, he just manipulated people into thinking they wanted something, and that he offered the highest quality of all, while providing none of that. He's the prime of American consumer markets, and consumer markets is also what shaped politics to be the show that it is nowadays.

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GTA The Wrong Way

That guy knew how to talk, he pauses to suppress the flow of adrenaline, preventing the fight or flight mechanism, then talks about what has underpinned the success of apple, sure the pauses are dramatic and he acknowledges the relevance of the question calmly, but Jobs puts the guy down by talking about customer experience and profit being key to success, then adds that some people dont know what they are talking about, funny how he couldnt help but respond to the insult, demonstrating why you should never have a go at a chap with a microphone.

utubewillyman

Anyone who's worked in a corporate bureaucracy will understand what he means when he says that mistakes are a good thing because it means that people are making decisions.

Kevin Colt

3y↑6

This guy was truly a genius for his time.
He could see 50 years ahead when most people are focused on the present and past.

Rest less

3y↑1

Great salesman and speaker, great sense of taste and design, speeding up digitalization of the modern world, however not as revolutionary as people give him credit for.

joy mukherjee

I like how he takes his time to answer unlike pretentious quick response

Andy Göpfert

4y↑4.9K

The way he answered the critic shows how intelligent and different he was

Jordan B.

god i hate youtube comments lol

Super Duck

3y↑1

@Jay Kay You didn’t understand the reply. Or the question.

spiralmoment

3y↑1

@Jay Kay some of us.. what multinational company would you be running today, have you had the, will, vision, persistence and luck to keep finding the money to try? what life changing devices of yours would I have lying around my house if you just had a tiny bit more luck like jobs?

Kulagin

lmao like you could understand the first question about Java and open doc, and Steve's answer.
It's a good question by the guy making the question and a terrible answer by Steve, which isn't even an answer to the question and just a cool story about how they do business.

Seven 7

3y↑1

@Jay Kay calm down big guy. Nowadays everyone can learn programming and it isn’t that hard compared to decades ago. Watch and see thr programming languages get included from the early stages of education and by a very young age - be ready for the technology world. Pretty much, it will be the same as learning english or any other languages in general. Most foreign schools start learning english from the third grade, so perhaps that’s when kids will get introduced to programming and start climbing the lather from there. Learning has become much easier nowadays thus creating really smart kids. For instance, my niece is 6 years old and she already speaks 3 languages and knows tons of stuff cuz of the availability of materials online.

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Douglas Cook

2y↑2

As a long term employee in info tech I was able read all the industry media from the mid 80s. The one conclusion you could draw about Apple was that they royally messed up lots of times and could have easily gone out of business. Mr. Jobs was able to bully his way forward using and then maybe discarding people who knew what they were doing. By no means did he have the right set himself up as a genius visionary no matter how much he enjoyed it.

IRRTUM

He answered the second question indirectly by the way he answered the first one. That’s the thing he’s been doing and nobody could have done it that way.

Shane A Khan

2y↑1

This reply is honest and amazing! He’s basically saying knowing everything about the technology don’t mean shit! And without his mind in being able to market and sell it to the millions, requires a special mind with foresight. smashed it

XSD

3y↑1

He didn't really answer the question, but he got out of it really well.

Joey Sanchez

4y↑802

"Some mistakes will be made along the way and that's good because at least some decisions are being made"

Steve Jobs

Vinícius Sasso

"You are right but it doesn't matter in the end, because there are ass-kicking decisions" (crowd goes wild)

J Shepard

@John Nunez
I really wanted a Newton. And I'm really glad I didn't waste my money on one.

Ryoko Honda

Inspirational

Grant Vogel

4y↑1

Adam anyways, Trump 2020

Dhi Mancini

Some action was taken. cool. https://youtu.be/YCnqEUg2SZI

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elicit

2y↑5

I’m actually very impressed by Jobs in this video.

Darren 'Roq'

3y↑3

Damn dude, this video really changed my view on Steve Jobs... he really was a genius of our time.

Julian Wallis

2y↑1

Classic jobs. Cut through the engineers esoteric obsessions in the most polite way imaginable and refocus everyone on what matters. Creating a product that will sell.

3uf0ry@ ♪

The man the myth The Legend

Peter Brown

3y↑4.9K

Jobs was a much better person than me. I would have answered the "what have you been doing for the past 7 years" question with "your mom"

BramptonBoy

That's the thing with today's society. No morals or respect for other people's mothers

th3giv3r

Jobs was not a better person than most people, even you. And your mom

J Sand

This guy's mom might have easily been 60. Steve must have been pretty deprived.

CanadianBullFrog

@john riser C++

WORLD OF CULTS

👍🤣🤣

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petarbg123

2y↑4

Damn what a valuable lesson right here... "You've got to start with the customer experience and work backwards to the technology. You can't start with the tech and try to figure out where you're going to try and sell it"

Gruvve

@petarbg123 Which is quite ironic since Apple couldn't care less about it's customers, in the following years they basically ignored this speech and imposed their idea of how products should be used without question.
Look at what Apple is now, a giant blob of money with no care to the customer nor the professional, so none of this was true in the end, of course...

AV the little moonling

@petarbg123 🤣🤣🔥

petarbg123

2y↑2

@lufo88ita I’ll take Steve Job’s advice over an “it developer’s any day… are you the guy from the crowd? 😂

lufo88ita

2y↑1

And that's wrong. As a IT developer the right formulation is "we need to create a tecnology that fit the needs of the customers".
You can't build a house from the roof (customer experience), but you can figure how build a good looking house with the right tecnology.

Vasil Petreski

Steve was one of a kind

michael57603

3y↑1

An emotionally intelligent response.

Phileepoh

I feel like the greater the silence an audience gives a speaker who is speaking sense, the greater the influence and control that speaker has and potentially shows how powerful they really are.

Christophe Roberge

4y↑23.7K

this guy is good, should start a small business idk

Lucky Lol

Apple could be a friendly name i guess

Steff

He did he founded apple hello

Po Atan

@irvinder singh sorry?

irvinder singh

2y↑1

@Po Atan
bio

Parker Stevens

@Nafis Hasan it is r/woooosh

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DJ Phat

2y↑3

100%
This is outstanding. "some mistakes will be made along the way, but at least decisions will have been made. And we can fix mistakes. WE will fix them!".

Peter C.

3y↑4

Great response, and I've never owned an Apple product. I always admire transparency. Also notice he uses the word "app". I wonder how many people know the word "app" was used well before smartphones existed.

M C Taylor

3y↑1

I was wondering that, too....

A B

God bless his soul, Valley misses him so much

LH

3y↑6

He was a great man. Just misunderstood and very underrated. Humanity lost A LOT when he died.

johanbakx

3y↑1

Think he wasn’t underrated

Kam

4y↑8.4K

This might sound weird but He’s got some great pauses. It’s like a power move,draws you in.

Mohammed Yasser

2y↑1

You're absolutely right.

Beau LaMontagne

@Zoe Zzzarko So many great pregnant pauses out there and SCOTUS wants to turnover Roe v Wade now? Heartless turds.

layman 2003

when other ppl do it it just makes it worse but Legend knows how to utilise it

Jesse H

That’s on purpose for sure.

Not So Moody

Check his swag level

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Kerveros1904

2y↑10

To the person below that he said that Jobs did not answer: he admitted that mistakes will be made. He also admitted that he has no idea about technology. But he provided a good response to him. Jobs actually won this confrontation.

Kerveros1904

@Macron87 expressing my opinion has nothing to do with sycophanty (which is a Greek word and this explains why you make wrong use of this word). So accusing me that i am a sycophant, renders you the perfect sycophant yourself boy. "No" is not accepted, even if you were God himself. Opinions that cannot be justified like yours, should better kept for yourself. You avoid humiliation this way.

Macron87

No, he did not. Only a sycophantic Jobs fan would suggest he “won”.

Xhanet Lekaj

Great reaction from him, he didn't turn defensive and didn't hesitate to admit his mistakes. However the second half of his response felt like a double talk, kind of drifted away from the question to avoid it.

Phil Taylor

2y↑1

That was pretty damn rude of that guy. But VERY well handled without going for his jugular.

Toeey1

3y↑1

I didnt understand the question nor did I understand the response. So in conclusion, 1997 technology is still over my head in 2021

Stromn83

2y↑1

i think people are seriously misunderstanding the question he was asked. and he did not answer it btw. what did he do himself , he led people to do what was being done , he didnt do it himself and that is a fact. he was not sitting in a factory that takes hundreds of people , cloning himself to make this shit happen. everything apple has done for years before jobs even became a head figure , was done with cold calculated planning and development (in most cases failing). but people put his ass on a pedastal like he did it himself. which is so far from the truth.

NeonMusic

I miss Steve, been a hero of mine since1984 ish. I was just a kid but one of my goals at the time was to buy a Mac and I did a few years later, I had to borrow $4000 lol. Worth it.

Brian Moser

3y↑3

man has no ego. i love him

MidnightSundowns

2y↑1

I got a job at Apple corporate and whilst I didn't think watching Steve Jobs videos would help me during their rather gruelling interview process, one thing in particular did and I feel a lot of businesses "tune this" out. When he pauses to think of something and clearly takes his time, the people interviewing me during my final ones noticed that I did too. I didn't rush to an answer or fill dead air with, "um, ah, well..." or any words. I didn't take too long, but I did let myself think carefully before answering because I wanted to be honest, simple, straight forward and even a little harsh if the question called for it.

I feel a lot of businesses ignore the human ability to say, "okay time out, I have a brain let me use it for a minute..." they are much more interested in snappy responses so your boss can take your answer to please their boss. It's a massively unhealthy practice and sadly is only going to accelerate.

Bill Lumbergh

Most interviewers will end the interview right there. And they should. Their next interviewee will not take any time and will come up with a better answer.

Peter k

4y↑3.6K

And after this, everyone in the valley talked like Steve Jobs.

VerMirror

Hard to blame em...

Again

@ALP IRL lol when? have you got link

Ty Willinganz

4y↑2

@Corey Smith I would agree with everything you just said. I would also compliment him for being able to do so after that guy took a cheap shot, because its hard not to want to rip right into him

Corey Smith

4y↑2

@Ty WillinganzHe is only pausing to gathering his thoughts. Some of the best speakers do this. You don't have to constantly go go go to have a great speech. You can tell he truly means what he says when he thinking long and hard about the words he is using to convey the message to the audience.

Cyba IT

That corporate bs

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TheTripol

He was super smart that's for sure, really good speaker too.

The Patriot

I wonder how he would feel today . I feel like he at the end of his life started to understand more about people than just selling and creating . You can hate him , but he was a genuine genius. But he def had a lot of faults .

J W

Cohesive response! This man always had his eyes on the prize RIP

Yeahhh

https://youtu.be/XMP1aUTRM1Q

Jonathan Gosing

I think this guy asked a brilliant question. And he got a brilliant answer. This did not sound insult to me, well after realizing how great the answer was from Steve.

sampath krishna

4y↑4.3K

I just realised Steve Jobs kinda looks like Tom cruise in some angles.

Dhaasu

He looks like my neighbour

Shaan P

@Projec Tile Trump doesn’t look a thing like Hitler. And I don’t think bald Trump would look like Putin. Boris Johnson, I’ll give you that one.

Projec Tile

Donald Trump looks like Boris Johnson and ......Hitler.....and putin.....

NeinDochOohh!

Me too, from the back.

Projec Tile

they're of the same bloodlines, the 1%

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StealthAssasin 1Day

2y↑1

Can't Deny the Man Has A Strong Vision For Apple.

Maurice N

3y↑3

I started in IT in 70's and ended up as a tech manager in one of the largest telcos. I built systems for government, retail chains, auto and pharmaceutical companies. Believe it or not the IT world did take many wrong turns. And a lot of the innovation like Agile, Jira, BI, Big Data is just the same old stuff packaged up to sell to managers who aren't tech savvy. From a professional point of view he should have just said "yes, you are correct". The worse thing you can do is BS and use anecdotes to pro's. They have high IQ's and logical reasoning scores and deal in facts. A real issue today is that tech is increasingly more closed. The only people who can afford it are corporations and students who will enter corporations. COVID is a good example of what happens when the unskilled like politicians and law enforcement get control of a situation that experts should have handled.

Josephine

2y↑5

"The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago and the next best time is now" I consider this to be best motivational quote I've heard in a very long time. But motivational quotes are useless if you don't practice what you preach*

Uncle Owen

2y↑2

Well the next best time was 19 years ago but I get the essence.

williams college

2y↑1

After what has unfolded in 2020 I no longer view btc as speculation. more so an inevitability. Even if it takes 10 years to get $100k that would mean the average rate of return with a daily $100. Over a year is 100% what asset class out there today offer that type of opportunity?

Kristen Ronnie

I agree with you and I believe that the secret to financial stability is having the right investment ideas to enable you earn more money, I don’t know who agrees with me but either way I recommend either real estate or crypto and stocks.

Kaos Sverige

The Man. The Myth. The Legend. Insult response my you know what 🤣

Dk Mike

3y↑1.4K

“some mistakes will be made along the way and that’s good because that means some decisions are being made along the way” love that quote

Duke Nukem

@Joseph Belford Others have been inspirational/motivators and perfectionists without being a prick. Despite his contributions Apple isn't the dominant one in its shared marketplace and that doesn't look like it's changing moving forward.

The accomplishments of Steve Jobs do not nullify his shitty aspects as a man and being a motivator doesn't merit you with credit for the accomplishments of others, something Steve Jobs entire success is built upon.

Joseph Belford

@Duke Nukem Jobs best “and worst” aspect what he was a motivator. Whether you loved or hated him he motivated people to accomplish things that were never done before. He motivated people to trust and believe in a product. He also was a perfectionist to the point it drove people mad but find one area of the tech industry that hasn’t been influenced by apple in some way.

juan fonseca

well jobs made some mistakes that kicked him out of his own company 🤣

dizz1

@Jerichish you can’t create without making mistakes mate

Armel Burgess

@Jerichish There's right, then there's wrong.

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hank

2y↑2

1:56 me when I try to start a standing ovation

techkri

3y↑10

Man…he speaks like he is the only human in this world 🔥🔥 🔥
Boldness in his speech - Infinite ♾

P o o m

3y↑1

He speaks like a genius.

Shakazuloeman

3y↑2

This is what many people and many companies still don't understand.

Because it's about the customer, not about the technology.

Super Duck

Who’d thunk aspberger’s conventions to be this cheerful? This flic gives me the chills. And makes me admire Jobs even more. Poor guy.

David DiMuzio

3y↑1.9K

Wow, now that’s how you answer an insulting question!! 🙋‍♂️

Monotech20.1

@Rhyne No he dodged the question. He sold OpenDoc as the future and then after engineers trained on it , learned it and made software using it, Apple abandoned it. Then Jobs told loyal customers to screw yourself and to learn and buy this new software. Pretty much what Apple does now.

Mordalo

@Smelly Lover Well, I knew the man personally, what about you?

Smelly Lover

@Mordalo “its sad and clear that you dont know what you’re talking about” is definitely a question

Tom Heim

@William Kelley Rhyne explicitly stated Jobs is 'concerned with building the best business and best products for consumers'. And listen to Jobs again. He answered the question directly, admitted to the engineer that he could be correct in the micro view, then respectfully pointed out the macro view was infinitely more important in delivering something of value to customers.

Mike Tyson

3y↑1

My answer: get bent pencil neck

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IL MOSTRO

No matter what anyone says below to the contrary, we can all see Jobs’ vision and decision making for Apple was absolutely right and he turned around a sinking company and left one that grew to be the largest most successful on the planet.

chamoflag

3y↑3

if this man was still alive,apple would be in much better state(in terms of quality) and may have innovate phones way different than one can imagine,nowadays it's just the same phone with the camera having +2 megapixels and some cpu improvement and a greater price tag than previous one.

John Smith

1y↑1

He was a good speaker, I'll give him that. :)

Randolf Aquino

3y↑5

The genius in the man is having marketing savy, risk taking and.creativity in one person and that is as rare as a unicorn. The only person who has that quality is someone who's creativity is so overflowing that he can take risks.

Tentacular

4y↑1.4K

Saying Steve Jobs did nothing is like saying "a farmer does nothing, because the food grows by itself".

Shadow

@ParadoxZee "Trust me owning land is not just "You do this and that so I can sleep all day and read the news""
Oh, so I should trust you on that one because your dad once told you that he worked even though he had workers working for him? Hahaha ok buddy

C.S. Hayden

The people that criticize him for not knowing programming completely miss the point. He knew it to some extent but wasn’t an expert and didn’t need to be. He was an expert orchestrator. He could recognize parts of an unrealized whole and unite it all in a common direction.

Matthew Kolonics

El Presidente Bro you do not know a fucking thing when talking about farming😂

tasten klopper

@Terran Federation 888 It sounds like you don't like generalizations so please don't generalize.

Abcd Pqrs

@Tentacular unemployed doesn't mean they're idle and angry about the situation.

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Atmos

Sometimes when I watch Jobs speak I am reminded of all the tech leads and project managers I've worked with. They all borrowed his mannerisms and phrases.

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