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Beta Decay

@Sally Wow, what a disgusting and sad worldview you have. I see you choose to ignore the "thou shalt not judge" part of the Bible. Who wants to be God now?
I was attempting to remain courteous but when you claim that only Christians can even understand the concept of free will quite frankly you expose yourself as a narcissistic bigot who is not open to intellectual discussions. Free will is not a difficult concept, if anyone has failed to grasp it though it is you. It is an inarguable fact that if your choice is predetermined then it cannot be made freely. God already knows the outcome before your choice is made...that is the very definition of predetermined. The story of Adam and Eve cannot co-exist with an all-knowing God. You are also in the minority of even Christians if you believe that it actually happened.

No wonder the thing you fight the most is yourself. You have no sound epistemology so you must constantly be battling a barrage of contradictory viewpoints.
Faith is moronic. There is nothing you cannot believe on faith and as such it is not a meaningful path to truth.

I've waited numerous replies for any kernel of logic and have received nothing but Bible quotes, profoundly stubborn ignorance and now with your last reply, bigoted insults. At no point have you tried to explain how I'm wrong you just state that I am because the Bible says a thing.

I think it's best we end the discussion here as I have no interest in continuing a conversation with someone as despicable as yourself. Thank non-existent God your views are not representative of most Christians.



Patchwurk

@Pi Day Rocks Huh, unexpected but thank you.

I'm actually surprised, philosophy folks usually don't like me. Not that I blame them, my general opinion of philosophers is not exactly favorable, but I'm definitely closer to Diogenes than others, at least in terms of general approach to things like philosophical theory.

Like I'm receptive to it, I can understand the word usage (Usually, some fuckers on the Internet LOVE to go buckwild on the jargon for some reason or take ten paragraphs to say a thought ten words long), but....

...Well, it's kinda hard to put into words without sounding dismissive, but in my opinion it feels like they're thinking Wayyyyy too hard about certain things and applying entirely too much significance to things that lack practical application or that only apply in the world of theory. Like this "Objective Truth" bullshit above where someone's genuinely arguing for some notion of logic or fact that is "Objectively True" or not as if that question even makes sense coming from subjective beings with subjective sensory input and subjectively flawed senses of self-importance and ego.

And it just seems like a massive waste of effort if I can somehow rationalize morality in my own subjective way WITHOUT having to agonize over the "Bigger Picture" every ten seconds just to understand my own motives like these guys seem to need. Like seems a bit presumptuous to think the "Bigger Picture" cares how some meatsuited biped thinks to begin with.

....Yeah, sorry for the rambling there. Ngl, smoked a bowl like 10 minutes prior to seeing your comment and I get chatty.



251rmartin

@Danny B "...nothing that I would hear could or would unconvince me of the veracity of the scriptures and the reality of Christ."

It's your 'strength of spirit' that allows you to take the word of anonymous authors about the words and actions of a man they never even met as truth? Everyone who knew Jesus, if he was a real man, was dead by the time the gospels were written (authored 65-110 years after his death).

Every time I see/hear someone say something so absurd, I just imagine them making a similar argument for a different god if they were born into a different culture or time and I laugh. There is zero chance that a person gullible enough to believe one myth they were indoctrinated to believe isn't gullible enough to believe a different myth from indoctrination. You obviously don't need reliable evidence to believe an extraordinary claim...

You in ancient Greece: You can't doubt Zeus, you've seen lightning right?

Me: I've seen it, but how does that prove a god exists?

You: You just lack the strength of spirit to understand...



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Plokky

I'm glad Matt is back. He's probably the best debater that's been on this channel.

Dvids

@Red Pill-er Of Truth Yeah sure they all got destroyed by all these brilliant arguments. Peterson says a thousand word that could be said in 5 sentences. He's not impressive at all. And once he debates someone like Matt he folds. That's why he never wanted another debate with him. Or is it because he destroyed Matt? 🤷

Mart TL1000S

@Sam Mason 
Darth Dawkins entertaining in a masochistic way 😂

Matthew Austin

"Dear God, I know I’m a sinner, and I ask for your forgiveness. I believe Jesus Christ is Your Son. I believe that He died for my sin and that you raised Him to life. I want to trust Him as my Savior and follow Him as Lord, from this day forward. Guide my life and help me to do your will. I pray this in the name of Jesus. Amen."

Did you pray this prayer?

N8ture

@Red Pill-er Of Truth Mocking god RIGHT NOW, god is being mocked. You are wrong he is, and will be mocked lol

For curiousity sake, what do you mean by "exposing atheists"? Exposing what? I'm assuming you don't believe in ALL gods do you? How can your lack of belief in those gods be wrong or "exposed"? I don't get it how can rejecting a belief be wrong?

batman

loooool he's pretty average. he'd get wrecked by an islamic debater.

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Pancake of Destiny

1:20:15 best part of the debate
Matt: You have to demonstrate that there is an agent who did that
Kenny: If I had time then I would
Matt: I thought thats why we are here
Dr Rhodes avoided the topic of the debate for over 1 hour, then he said he dont have time to... talk about the topic of the debate?

Evidence Only

Theists always evade addressing facts.

sbeve goldencalf

@YY4Me133 turek almost always does some crap similar like implying his interlocutor should be allowed to trust rheir own brain

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