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Cenk
Cenk is a band formed in Lausanne, Switzerland in 2004. The original lineup… Read Full Bio ↴Cenk is a band formed in Lausanne, Switzerland in 2004. The original lineup consisted of Fab, Soko and Xurxx.

After recording a first demo ("First draft") they found their drummer Nico and recorded live a second one, "Congrès Extraordinaire des Nanophysiciens en Kilt".

In 2005 comes their second guitarist Markass and record Canari Esquimau de Nonante Kilos and get rewarded as the third best rock'n'roll band in Switzerland by magazine "RealRocker".

In 2006, Cenk tours in France and Galicia (Spain) before Markass leaves the band. Some months later, JYC arrives with guitar and saxophons.

2007 they take part to the tribute album to Os Diplomáticos de Monte-Alto, performing the song Antuerpe.

2009 they released an new ep called Chantons Ensemble un Nouveau Krach that can be fownloaded for free on their website. With this new release, the band sounds more electro-rock.


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@godofchaoskhorne5043

@Atilla Nándor Füri What does b British have to do with it? Cenk I'd American. English is his first language. And NO. The "political movement" youre talking about was called the CUP (committee of union and progress) young Turks is a wider movement, one that was at the time actually HEAVILY backed by non Muslim minorities in the empire Inc Armenians. It had Armenian, Jewish, Albanian, Greek, Serbian etc members and backers (financial and political). It was a movement to force the empire into a more democratic system. To take power away from the Sultan and to create a new constitution that would recognize all minorities and religions as equal citizens of the empire and remove remnants of the millet system (a system that was progressive for its time, gave religious autonomy to minorities but was outdated by the 20th cent)

This movement was later taken over by the Three Pasha's that rhe Armenians blame for the genocide.

The reality is that there was no organized effort to wipe Armenians out. Quite the opposite. The Ottoman gov at the time did everything it could to make sure the Armenians weren't harmed. But this didn't stop attacks on Armenians as they were being deported. Which some governers turned a blind eye too and others even encouraged and supported.

Of course the deportation alone constitutes a genocide and regardless of the figures it was tragic.

But the amount of one sided propaganda and misinformation is insane.

You're so certain you know what you're talking about. When even the constantly repeated 1.5 million number is literally impossible considering there were only 1.2 million Armenians in Anatolia. Only those in the east were deported (where most Armenians lived, but large communities also lived west in Istanbul, Izmir and those are still there) not to mention according to the Armenians during the Paris peace conference 600k Armenians survived.

Armenians claim that the Ottomans had secret plans, and conspiracies to wipe every single one of them out. But then why wouldn't the Ottomans deport the Armenians living among the Turks but only those in the east.. living in regions where Kurds where the majority?

No, sure the "barbarian blood thirsty" Turks decided one day that they were just going wipe out all Armenians 'after having lived side by side with Armenians for a literal thousand years'. Let's ignore the fact that millions of Turks were slaughtered during the invasion of Anatolia by the west and Russians. The genocide of Turks in the balkans. The tens of thousands of Armenians who flocked to join Russia in its invasion. Then slaughtered Kurds, Turks and Jews in eastern Turkey in an ethnic cleansing campaign because they believe those lands are theirs. But guess what. It's kinda inconvenient to be a minority in the new nation you want to found so the solution for then was to just slaughter and non Armenians. We still find mass Graves.. hundreds of thousands were slaughtered. But strangely... that's completely ignored and the narrative according to the west is that poor, defenseless Armrnians were slaughtered for sadistic pleasure. The Attacks on Armenians were largely carried out by Kurdish cavalry who came back home from defending the empire in its eastern front to find their entire families slaughtered during the Russian occupation. Not by the Russians but by their Armenian neighbors.

The Armenians literally took over an entire town (Van) slaughtered every single non Armenian in town. But strangely in the English wiki page for this event it's portrayed as if not a single Muslim ever lived in Van. And the Armenians just peacefully took over the city lol.


I'm telling you all this not because I believe this makes what happened to the Armenians acceptable. I'm telling you this as a snippet of how one sided your understanding of history is. How secure and sure you are that there is no way that you've gotten a biased interpretation of the history. That it's sickeningly hypocritical to ignore the millions of Turks etc who were slaughtered. To ignore the genocides perpetuated on Turks. To ignore that both the balkans and what is now Armenia once used to be 50% Turkish populated. That even Armenias capitol Yerevan has a majority Turk population in 1898, 1922 according to the Russian census. These were brutally wiped out.

Today not a SINGLE Turk lives in Armenia. While both Turkey and Azerbaijan have large and thriving Armenian minorities. We have Turkish Armenian politicians. Soldiers. Famous people etc. Meanwhile there are large protests in Armenia with the slogan "An Armenia, with no Turks"

They aren't talking about any Turks living in Armenia. They are talking about the Azerbaijani territories they ethnically cleansed and occupied for 30 years. They are talking about Nakhcivan (autonomous Azerbaijani region which Armenians claim). And 1/3rd of Turkey lol


The reason why Turkey won't call it a genocide is because the word has a different definition in Turkish to the one in English. It straight up means holocaust. Which BTW is exactly what Armenians are claiming happened. Which in turn is undeniably false.. that is the issue. Turkey doesn't deny hundreds of thousands of Armenians were killed. Turkey denies that it was a deliberate, pre planned and organized attempt to wipe every single Armenian off the map.

Then there is also the fact that recognition opens the way for Armenia asking for reparations. And Armenian nationalists are claiming that they literally want 1/3rd of Turkey (the same lands that the PKK claims are Kurdistan)



P.s. fun fact. It took Belgium till 2019 to issue a weak apology for the millions of Congolese that they brutally enslaved, tortured, maimed and slaughtered. One of the worst human tragedies in history. Zero reparations etc were paid and nor can a country like Congo ever hope to manage to get Belgium to pay. But same Belgium has been very vocal about the Armenian genocide for decades.



@taurohkea2169

nope it wasnt a genocide. there were over 40 armenian revolts in a year and ottomans relocated armenian population to northern syria which was still ottoman province back then - because armenian armed groups were massacring muslim people in the region and they were getting support from russians during ww1.

did people die during relocation? surely. there were local people who attacked convoys to get revenge and people who resisted relocation might be harmed as well. but i dont see any intention of "destroying whole armenian people".

you might say there were millions and billions armenians - theres only one official source about population countings and armenians dont trust ottoman archives. and they dont have any official record either. whole story is about estimated numbers and they cant even explain how they get to this estimation. and there are many forged documents, as politicians dont question authenticity of resources they can believe whatever they see (or whoever supports their election campaign), but politicians are not judges and if armenians would try to carry their claims to the court, they will have to show evidence - we all know they cant. you might believe ardonian papers and top secret orders of talat pasha are real - but that doesnt explain how ardonian lost the originals of these documents.

funny part is by accepting genocide in parliaments, countries are losing objectivity and they cant sue anyone when they are already siding with it. the only way left is to force turkey to trials like the ones in 1919 which were forced by british and french when they invaded ottoman capitol. and they executed ottoman officers who wasnt even on duty of relocations to satisfy armenian groups...

and they talk about human rights... french did even more than this in algeria. they moved 2 million people to concentration camps, razed at least 80 villages to ground, tortured and killed countles algerian nationalists --- this all happened in 1950 and they still say it was just a war



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@fluttzkrieg4392

Imagine if the show was called The Schutzstaffel and Cenk was a German descendant, and he still refused to change the name of the show after acknowledging that the Holocaust happened.

@armenkazaryan7181

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@guneytopal7076

I was fortunate enough to be born and raised in the UK rather than Turkey unlike my parents but they always accepted that the Armenian, Greek, Assyrian genocides all took place. But they are also thankful that Ataturk literally saved Turkey from collapse. Ataturk is no worse than people like Churchill/Conservative party, countless US Presidents/Democrat or Republican Party, etc. Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Kim Il-Sung, are the worst but the ones I've listed earlier have also committed genocide and people support/love them on a daily basis. Ataturk isn't an angel by no means but if you want TYT to change their channel name then political parties (and countless organisations/channels/etc) should change their names and renounce their past leaders who committed countless atrocities as well.

@TheBusbyBabes

not really its more the equivalent of being upset at the washington post for having the name of a genocidal slave owner

@ongek428

someone forgot abt the freedom and accord party LMAOOO

@jajauxhal7846

Genocide was made by ittihat teraki, which is not “the young turks”

What you are doing is comparing “french revolutionists” to “french nationalism” basically.

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@harlemthamry8839

Respect to Çenk for speaking up clearly on this matter. Toxic patriotism is a problem among Turks that makes it very hard to address this issue to Turkish people in general. I‘m Tunisian but my maternal ancestors were Turks of Greek origin who were forced to assimilate cultural and religious wise. The Turks have done it in a way that my grandparents became nationalistic Turks who settled in Tunisia during the last years of the Ottoman Empire.

@stevezissou495

He only did it from political pressure and loss of views. He's a loser

@mrpumperknuckles1631

Well I would called it ultra patriotism not toxic patriotism…

Patriotism within moderate amounts is a good thing but what happened in Turkey was a Muslim ruling government that committed the acts upon the genocide and tried to justify it by saying there were more Muslims killed but the reality is that it’s ultra nationalism. Not normal nationalism but ultra nationalism where they believe their nation does no wrong and go down these dangerous paths of trying to control history and control society information heavily…

@HulaguKhan2020

Is it true Turks in North Africa discriminated Arabs & Berbers in North Africa during Ottoman era?

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