- The original band name was "NEW CASTLE TRASH" when Rob started it at the age of 15
- There was a "Crowd Deterrent Dog", which was owned by ERIC COLTENBA (spelling?), who was a ofrmer singer. He would bring the dog to shows and it wore a hoodie w/ CD logo printed on the back w/ the sleeves cut off.
- There has been an estimated 40 members of the band over the 8 years it has existed (this figure is LOW)
- The metal garbage cans we used to use and throw and hit people with at early shows were actually taken directly off the curb and stolen on garbage nights, never washed out, and used the next night at the show.
- We used an entire mile long spool of barbed wire in Crowd Deterrent related events over the years.
- CD once played 2 shows in one day in 2 different states: one in CANFIELD, OH, the other in BUTLER, PA. both shows ended in total destruction w/ chairs stuck in the ceilings and hemopheliacs going to the hospital.
- The band has been paid no more than 10 times in 8 years of playing shows
- The band changd it's name to "MISERABLE HUMANS" for a few days, there are fliers w/ that name on them
- The band owns NO equipment. Rob and Steve do not own drums or amps and never will.
- CD recorded 1/2 of it's "BLOOD AND FAMILY" album w/ NYHC legend DON FURY at CYCLONE STUDIOS in Coney Island NYC.
- CD has no-showed to more than 1/2 of the shows they have ever scheduled... and played more than 5 songs at less than 10 of the ones they have played in the past 8 years.
- Samoan Rob IS Samoan... not black or mexican as many people have mistaken!
- There have been too many "Final Crowd Deterrent Shows" to count
- Rob's son Aaron is currently in training to play in the band by age 7
We look forward to more thrills, chills, and spills in the years to come!!!
Middle Ground
Crowd Deterrent Lyrics
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The lyrics to Crowd Deterrent's "Middle Ground" reflect on the struggle to maintain a collective spirit and sense of unity when individualistic desires and external influences threaten to tear it apart. The line "divided by words of others" speaks to the power of outside opinions to influence and manipulate one's own beliefs and actions, while "it's a struggle to succeed" suggests that the pursuit of personal goals and achievements can come at the cost of communal harmony. However, the singer resolves to "stay true" to their own values and convictions, even if it means standing alone or facing opposition.
The repeated phrase "with us or against us" reinforces the idea of binary choices and the absence of middle ground, indicating that there is little room for compromise or negotiation. The line "duck and cover" implies a sense of impending danger or conflict, and suggests that the singer may be preparing for a showdown or confrontation with those who do not share their values. Overall, the lyrics convey a sense of urgency and determination to maintain one's integrity and loyalty to a collective cause, even in the face of adversity.
Line by Line Meaning
Collective spirit dies consumed by selfish needs
Unity and cooperation are replaced by individualistic desires
Divided by words of others
Arguments arise from external influences
It's a struggle to succeed
Achievement requires hard work and determination
Can't change what's in my heart my words remain the same
My beliefs and values will not waver despite external pressures
Stay true or step aside who will remain
Either maintain authenticity or face exclusion
With us or against us the choice is simple now
One must choose either cooperation or opposition
With us or against us the absence of middle ground
The lack of compromise resulting in extreme positions
Duck and cover
A metaphor for protecting oneself during conflict
Contributed by Tyler E. Suggest a correction in the comments below.