El Gran Combo was founded in May 1962,[1] by Rafael Ithier. Ithier is still, as of 2008[update], the orchestra's pianist and musical director. The group is currently promoting their latest album titled Arroz con Habichuela (Rice and Beans). They still perform today after 40 years together.[2]
Contents
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* 1 History
o 1.1 The Birth of El Gran Combo
o 1.2 First albums
o 1.3 Near death experience
o 1.4 The 1970s
o 1.5 Recent years
o 1.6 The new millennium
* 2 Discography
* 3 Current members
o 3.1 Singers
o 3.2 Orchestra
* 4 Former members
o 4.1 Singers
o 4.2 Percussion
o 4.3 Bass
o 4.4 Brass section
o 4.5 Others
* 5 Bibliography
* 6 See also
* 7 References
* 8 External links
[edit] History
[edit] The Birth of El Gran Combo
Rafael Ithier had been a member of Rafael Cortijo's "Cortijo y su Combo" orchestra, travelling to the eastern United States before forming El Gran Combo. For their first gig, the orchestra was signed by the legendary Cuban comedian, writer and businessman Alvarez Guedes, who hired them to support Dominican singer Joseito Mateo on one of his albums for his record company Gema Records. It was Alvarez Guedes himself who baptized them with the name of El Gran Combo.
The members that met for this first incarnation were Ithier, Eddie Perez, Hector Santos, Rogelio "Kito" Velez, Martín Quiñones, Miguel Cruz and Roberto Roena. That first album was titled Menéame Los Mangos, El Gran Combo con Joseito Mateo (Shake My Handles, or Shake My Mangoes, depending on the double meaning of the word Mango).
The group met again to define the foundations of the orchestra and they chose singers Daniel Vázquez, Pellín Rodríguez and Chiqui García. On May 21, 1962, El Gran Combo was heard for the first time on Puerto Rican radio. Later on, they became the on-studio musicians of the live television show, "La Taberna India", sponsored by India Beer.
After their live debut at Hotel La Concha in San Juan, Puerto Rico, Chiqui García left the orchestra. Sammy Ayala, who had also played with Ithier in the Cortijo orchestra, recommended the hiring of Andy Montañez. Felipe Rodríguez, another legendary Salsa singer, also followed the group's career closely, sometimes even making suggestions to Ithier.
[edit] First albums
On November 20, 1963, El Gran Combo released their first group album, Acángana, with Rodríguez and Montañez as leading voices. The album became a number one hit in New York, Panama and Puerto Rico. Their success opened doors for them in many Latin American markets and they gained an exclusivity spot in Puerto Rican television show El Show de las 12. The album also reached gold status.
On 1964, musician Elías López joined the orchestra. However, the excess of exposure helped their demands to decline. Still, in 1967, their album Boogaloo con el Gran Combo also reached gold status. In 1969, Roena and López left the orchestra to form the Apollo Sound together. Despite all this, that same year the group is awarded with an Agüeybana de Oro Award in Puerto Rico.
[edit] Near death experience
On February 15, 1970, the members of El Gran Combo shared a near death experience. They were returning to Puerto Rico from Curaçao, and had to stop at Las Américas International Airport in Santo Domingo. One of the band's members had a bad feeling about the flight they were about to embark on, and the orchestra decided not to take that flight, which would turn out to be the Dominicana Airlines DC-9 that crashed off the Caribbean coast.
[edit] The 1970s
In 1970, their contract with Gema Records wasn't renewed. Despite offers from the renowned Motown label, El Gran Combo decided to produce their own albums, under the label "Combo Records". Their first album under their label, EGC, is titled Estamos Primeros.
In 1971, El Gran Combo introduced the trombone to their list of instruments. The trombone was played by Fanny Ceballos. Soon after, their production named De Punta a Punta (slang for "From Coast to Coast") was released. In 1973, Pellín Rodriguez left the group to continue on with a solo career. Legendary Salsa musician Jerry Concepción and the well known sportscaster Rafael Bracero, friends of Ithier, recommended Ithier to replace Rodríguez with Charlie Aponte.
In 1973, El Gran Combo sang in front of 50,000 fans at the famous Yankee Stadium in New York City as the opening act for the Fania All-Stars' sold out concert.
Montañez left the band in early 1977 and went to live in Venezuela, where he receive a good contract to replace Oscar D'León in another orchestra, Dimension Latina. Jerry Rivas was then chosen to join the orchestra. Both Rivas and Aponte are still members of the orchestra to this day. The success of this new duo was proved with their 1977 album International and 1978's En Las Vegas which reached gold record status.
In 1975, El Gran Combo en Navidad, a Christmas album, was released, with Martín Quiñones appearing as Santa Claus in the album's cover. After a car accident in early 1977, Quiñones was replaced in the band by his son, Martín Quiñones Jr. He stayed until 1979, being replaced by Luis Díaz.
[edit] Recent years
The band continues to receive numerous awards in all Latin America. In 1984, they traveled to Alaska where they received a great welcome. Soon after they release their album titled Breaking the Ice which garnered them their first Grammy nomination.
In 1982 they celebrated their 20th anniversary playing at the Madison Square Garden. They also reached Europe that year playing in Paris, France.
In the early 90s, they were honored in the city of Madrid, Spain to open the decade in the right track. In March 29, 1992, they celebrated a huge concert in the Hiram Bithorn Stadium in front of 30,000 people.
[edit] The new millennium
In 2002, El Gran Combo celebrated their 40th anniversary with two sold-out concerts at the Ruben Rodríguez Coliseum in Bayamón, Puerto Rico. This celebration spawned a renowned album that was recognized as one of the best of the year. A year later, they received a Grammy for Best Tropical Album. Among other musicians, they are one of the 'the enduring superstars of the island' [3]
As of 2006[update], the orchestra has released over 40 albums or CD's, and it has received many awards, including golden albums, a "Calendario de Plata" in Mexico, a "Golden Combo" in Colombia, a "Paoli Award" in their native Puerto Rico, an honorable distinction in Spain and countless others.
In 2006, they released their latest album titled Arroz con Habichuela. It has already spawned three hit singles. The first one titled "No Hay Manera" ("There's No Way"), the title song, and "Si La Vez Por Ahí".
In 2007, El Gran Combo performed two massive concerts at the José Miguel Agrelot Coliseum to celebrate their 45th anniversary.
[edit] Discography
Album Year Label
Menéame los Mangos, el Gran Combo con Joseito Mateo 1962 Gema Records
El Gran Combo... de Siempre 1963 Gema Records
Acángana 1963 Gema Records
Ojos Chinos, Jala Jala 1964 Gema Records
El Caballo Pelotero 1965 Gema Records
Traigo un Tumba'o, Meneíto Me 1965 Gema Records
El Swing del Gran Combo con Pellín y Andy 1966 Gema Records
El Gran Combo En Navidad 1967 Gema Records
Maldito Callo 1967 Gema Records
Esos Ojitos Negros 1967 Gema Records
Fiesta Con El Gran Combo 1967 Gema Records
Boleros Románticos Con El Gran Combo 1967 Gema Records
Tú Querías Boogaloo, Toma Boogaloo 1967 Gema Records
Pata Pata, Jala Jala Y Boogaloo 1967 Gema Records
Boogaloos Con El Gran Combo 1967 Gema Records
Tangos 1967 Gema Records
Merengues 1968 Gema Records
Guarachas 1968 Gema Records
Bombas, Bombas, Bombas 1968 Gema Records
Los Nenes Sicodélicos 1968 Gema Records
Latin Power 1968 Gema Records
Smile, It's El Gran Combo 1968 Gema Records
Este Si Que Es El Gran Combo 1969 Gema Records
Estamos Primeros 1970 EGC Records
De Punta A Punta 1971 EGC Records
Por El Libro 1972 EGC Records
En Acción 1973 EGC Records
Número 5 1973 EGC Records
Disfrútelo Hasta El Cabo 1974 EGC Records
Número 7 1975 EGC Records
Los Sorullos 1975 EGC Records
Mejor Que Nunca 1976 EGC Records
Internacional 1977 EGC Records
En Las Vegas 1978 Combo Records
Aquí No Se Sienta Nadie 1979 Combo Records
Unity 1980 Combo Records
Happy Days 1981 Combo Records
Nuestro Aniversario 1982 Combo Records
20th Anniversary 1982 Combo Records
La Universidad De La Salsa 1983 Combo Records
In Alaska: Breaking The Ice 1984 Combo Records
Innovations 1985 Combo Records
Nuestra Musica 1985 Combo Records
El Gran Combo Y Su Pueblo 1986 Combo Records
25th Anniversary 1987 Combo Records
Romántico Y Sabroso 1988 Combo Records
Amame 1989 Combo Records
Latin Up! 1990 Combo Records
Erupción 1991 Combo Records
Gracias 1992 Combo Records
First Class International 1993 Combo Records
La Ruta Del Sabor 1994 Combo Records
Para Todos Los Gustos 1995 Fonovisa Records
Por Todo Lo Alto 1996 Fonovisa Records
35 Years Around The World 1997 Combo Records
Pasaporte Musical 1998 Combo Records
Nuevo Milenio, El Mismo Sabor 2001 Combo Records
40 Aniversario 2002 Combo Records
Estamos Aqui...¡Y De Verdad! 2004 Sony Discos Norte
Arroz con Habichuela 2006 Sony Discos Norte
Sin Salsa No Hay Paraiso 2009 Sony Discos Norte
[edit] Current members
[edit] Singers
* Charlie Aponte (1973–present)
* Jerry Rivas (1977–present)
* Luis "Papo" Rosario (1980–present)
[edit] Orchestra
* Rafael Ithier - leader, director (1962–present); piano (1962–2006; except on live performances)
* Willie Sotelo piano (2006–present)
* Eddie Pérez - saxophone (1962–present)
* Freddie Miranda - saxophone (1980–present)
* Luis "Taty" Maldonado - trumpet (1970–present)
* Victor "Cano" E. Rodriguez - trumpet(1980–present)
* Moisés Nogueras - trombone (1991–present)
* Freddy Rivera - bass guitar (1989–present)
* Domingo "Cuqui" Santos - timbales (1988–present)
* Miguel "Pollo" Torres - conga (1979–present)
* Richie Bastar - bongo (2001–present)
* Jorge Torres - sound engineer
* David Marrero - support personnel
[edit] Former members
[edit] Singers
* Pellín Rodríguez (1962–1973)
* Andy Montañez (1962–1977)
* Marcos Montañez (1973)
* "Chiqui" Rivera (1962)
[edit] Percussion
* Milton Correa - timbales (1962–1970)
* Miguel Marrero - timbales (1970–1979)
* Edgardo Morales - timbales (1979–1988)
* Roberto Roena - bongos (1962–1969)
* Martín Quiñones - conga (1962–1977)
* Martín Quiñones, Jr. - conga (1962–1979)
* Luis Díaz - conga (1979)
[edit] Bass
* Miguel Cruz - bass guitar (1962–1975)
* Fernando Perez - bass guitar (1975–1989)
[edit] Brass section
* Mike Torres - trumpet (1969)
* Epifanio "Fanny" Ceballos - trombone (1971–1991)
* Toñito Vázquez - trombone (1991)
[edit] Others
* Hector Santos (1962–1969)
* Rogelio "Kito" Vélez (1962–1964)
* Daniel Vázquez (1962)
* Mickey Duchesne (1962–1969)
* Elias Lopez (1964–1969)
* Edwin Cortés (1969)
* "Baby" Serrano - Bongos (1969–1984)
* José "Keko" Duchesne - Saxophone (1969–1980)
* Tommy Sánchez (1969)
* Gerardo "Grillo" Cruz-Trumpet (1969–1979)
* Miguel Laboy-Bongos (1984–2001)
* Mike Ramos-Coro (1969–1980)
* Edwin González (1979)
* Nelson Feliciano-Trumpet (1979–1980)
* Paquito Guzman (Coros; Recording Sessions 1971–1976)
* Elliot Romero (Coros; Recording Sessions 1973–1977)
* Yayo "El Indio" (Coros; Recording Sessions 1977–1979)
* Tito Henriquez (Coros; Recording Sessions 1978)
* Eddie W. Feyjoo (Trumpet; Recording 1980s-????)
[edit] Bibliography
* Keeling, Stephen: Rough Guides, Rough Guides, 2008, ISBN 978-1-85828-354-8
* Marino, John: Wiley Publishing Inc., 2008, ISBN 978-0-470-25711-1
* Let's Go Inc: MacMillan, 2007, ISBN 978-0-312-37447-1 ISBN 10-0-312-3744-X Third Edition
* Peffer, Randal: Lonely Planet Publications Pty Ltd, 2002, ISBN 1 74059 274 3
[edit] See also
* List of famous Puerto Ricans
[edit] References
1. ^ Keeling and Rough Guides: "The Rough Guide to Puerto Rico", page 377. Rough Guides, 2008.
2. ^ Frommer's Puerto Rico: Marino, p. 37
3. ^ Lonely Planet Puerto Rico: Peffer Published, p. 42
[edit] External links
* Official website
* Biography, Discography, Photos, Lyrics (SalsaClasica.com)
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Dime Que Quieres
El Gran Combo Lyrics
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No entiendo esta ebullición, de sentimientos confusos
Si lloro porque te vas, y riño porque te quedas
No aguanto esta confusión de sentimientos y penas
Compartimos muchas cosas, como dos enamorados
Dices que me echas de menos, cuando no estoy a tu lado
Si te busco todo el tiempo, necesitas un espacio
Y dime corazón, corazón
Qué es lo que quieres de mí
Y dime corazón, corazón
Si ya todo te lo di
Tú me pediste cariño (y cariño yo te di)
Tú me pediste ternura (y ternura yo te di)
Tú me pediste caricias (y caricias yo te di)
(Entonces dime qué quieres)
(Entonces dime qué quieres, para olvidar esta pena, ah-ay)
(Entonces dime qué quieres)
(Entonces dime qué quieres, para olvidar esta pena, ah-ay)
Si te busco todo el tiempo
Necesitas un espacio
No comprendo tu actitud
Este amor es muy extraño
Y dime corazón, corazón
Dime qué quieres de mí
Y dime corazón, corazón
Si ya todo te lo di
Tú me pediste cariño (y cariño yo te di)
Tú me pediste ternura (y ternura yo te di)
Tú me pediste caricias (y caricias yo te di)
(Entonces dime qué quieres)
(Entonces dime qué quieres, para olvidar esta pena, ah-ay)
(Entonces dime qué quieres)
(Entonces dime qué quieres, para olvidar esta pena, ah-ay)
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
Pero qué palo si voy a palos y no abogas, tú me estas tratando así
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
Y si te vas yo sé que lloraré, pero al fin descansaré
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
Mami me tienes entre sí y no, y así, así no puedo seguir
Dame cariño, otra vez
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
Ay, por favor te lo pido no quiero excusas
Dime si me absuelves, dime si me acusas
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
Yo te imploro ese cariño que no entiendo, ¡ponle fin!
(Entonces dime qué quieres)
(Entonces dime qué quieres, para olvidar esta pena, ah-ay)
The song "Dime Que Quieres" by El Gran Combo expresses the confusion and fear that comes with being in a complicated relationship. The singer admits to not knowing if what they're feeling is love but acknowledges that it hurts a lot. They are unable to understand the mixed signals they're getting from their partner, who claims to miss them when they're apart but also needs their space. The singer is frustrated by their emotions and doesn't know how to deal with the pain that comes with it.
In the chorus, the singer pleads with their partner to tell them what they want, as they feel they’ve given everything they can but are still left feeling confused and hurt. The verses and chorus are punctuated with the repeated plea to understand the situation better: "Entonces dime qué quieres" (So tell me what you want). The song seems to be an exploration of the complexities of relationships, and the need for clear communication and understanding.
Overall, the lyrics evoke a sense of helplessness and confusion in the face of an emotionally complicated situation. The singer is grasping for answers and pleading for clarity, but to no avail.
Line by Line Meaning
Yo no sé si esto es amor, y si es amor duele mucho
I am unsure if this feeling is love, but if it is, it brings a lot of pain
No entiendo esta ebullición, de sentimientos confusos
I don't understand this boiling confusion of feelings
Si lloro porque te vas, y riño porque te quedas
If I cry because you leave and argue when you stay
No aguanto esta confusión de sentimientos y penas
I cannot bear this confusion of feelings and pains
Compartimos muchas cosas, como dos enamorados
We share many things like two lovers
Dices que me echas de menos, cuando no estoy a tu lado
You say you miss me when I'm not with you
Si te busco todo el tiempo, necesitas un espacio
If I constantly look for you, you need some space
No comprendo tu actitud, este amor es muy extraño
I don't understand your behavior, this love is very odd
Y dime corazón, corazón, Qué es lo que quieres de mí
And tell me, my heart, my heart, what is it that you want from me
Si ya todo te lo di
If I've already given you everything
Tú me pediste cariño (y cariño yo te di)
You asked me for love (and I gave you love)
Tú me pediste ternura (y ternura yo te di)
You asked me for tenderness (and I gave you tenderness)
Tú me pediste caricias (y caricias yo te di)
You asked me for caresses (and I gave you caresses)
(Entonces dime qué quieres)
(So tell me, what is it that you want)
(Entonces dime qué quieres, para olvidar esta pena, ah-ay)
(So tell me, what is it that you want, to forget this pain, ah-ay)
Si te busco todo el tiempo, necesitas un espacio
If I constantly look for you, you need some space
No comprendo tu actitud, Este amor es muy extraño
I don't understand your behavior, this love is very odd
Y dime corazón, corazón, Dime qué quieres de mí
And tell me, my heart, my heart, tell me what you want from me
Tú me pediste cariño (y cariño yo te di)
You asked me for love (and I gave you love)
Tú me pediste ternura (y ternura yo te di)
You asked me for tenderness (and I gave you tenderness)
Tú me pediste caricias (y caricias yo te di)
You asked me for caresses (and I gave you caresses)
(Entonces dime qué quieres)
(So tell me, what is it that you want)
(Entonces dime qué quieres, para olvidar esta pena, ah-ay)
(So tell me, what is it that you want, to forget this pain, ah-ay)
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
(To calm this pain, oh, tell me what you want from me)
Pero qué palo si voy a palos y no abogas, tú me estas tratando así
But what a hit if I am going one way and you are going another, you are treating me like this
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
(To calm this pain, oh, tell me what you want from me)
Y si te vas yo sé que lloraré, pero al fin descansaré
And if you leave, I know I will cry, but in the end, I will rest
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
(To calm this pain, oh, tell me what you want from me)
Mami me tienes entre sí y no, y así, así no puedo seguir
Mommy, you have me in between yes and no, and like this, I cannot continue
Dame cariño, otra vez
Give me love, once again
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
(To calm this pain, oh, tell me what you want from me)
Ay, por favor te lo pido no quiero excusas
Oh, please I beg you, I don't want excuses
Dime si me absuelves, dime si me acusas
Tell me if you absolve me or if you accuse me
(Para calmar esta pena, ay, dime qué quieres de mí)
(To calm this pain, oh, tell me what you want from me)
Yo te imploro ese cariño que no entiendo, ¡ponle fin!
I implore for that affection I don't understand, put an end to it!
(Entonces dime qué quieres)
(So tell me, what is it that you want)
(Entonces dime qué quieres, para olvidar esta pena, ah-ay)
(So tell me, what is it that you want, to forget this pain, ah-ay)
Writer(s): Luis Alberto Florez Villa
Contributed by Savannah N. Suggest a correction in the comments below.