Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera (aka "Velvet Opera") was a British rock band ac… Read Full Bio ↴Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera (aka "Velvet Opera") was a British rock band active in the late 1960s. Members of the band would later become members of Strawbs, Hudson Ford and Stretch.

The band picked up on the British psychedelic movement after supporting The Pink Floyd as a soul/blues band called 'The Five Proud Walkers', the lineup was Richard " Hud" Hudson on drums, John Ford on bass, Colin Forster on lead guitar, Jimmy Horrocks (Horovitz) on organ and flute (who left early in the band's history), and Dave Terry on vocals and harmonica.

Earlier, they gigged for a while playing blues-based material,but gradually got interested in more a free-form style. The name Velvet Opera was chosen initially, which was amended to Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera within days after Dave Terry turned up to a session wearing a long black cape and a preacher's hat and had to endure some piss-taking from the rest of the band (Elmer Gantry was the fictional hero of a Sinclair Lewis novel and 1960 film about a preacher). The name stuck and Dave became Elmer. By this time Elmer, influenced by the music of John Cage, was making experimental taped backing sounds and using signal generators on stage in the act.

The band began to get quite a following and played clubs and university gigs all over the UK and at London venues like the Marquee and 100 club and Electric Garden. They would also occasionally play at the Speakeasy where Jimi Hendrix would jam with them, also people like Jeff beck and Eric Burdon. The band had been recorded independently for a while by Southern Music Publishing, who had their own four-track studio in Denmark Street, and it wasn't long before they had secured a record deal with CBS's "Direction" label. The problem was that Southern Music had originally signed them as a bluesy/jazzy band and they were not very keen on trying to get new, more riotous stage act on disc.

The group were persuaded to do more "regular" material. The first recording was the song, written by Elmer, that the band were best known for, 'Flames'. The record was on jukeboxes all over the UK and was covered live by bands as diverse as "The Joe Loss Orchestra" and "Led Zeppelin", in fact Jimmy Page told Elmer that Flames was the only non-Zep number that they included in their early stage-act (Robert Plant also included it in his 2001-2002 tour). However, for the average radio listener the song was too far ahead of its time and despite live popularity and numerous radio plays the song only managed to achieve number 30 in the charts. Direction did however, take faith in the band to record second and third singles and more importantly a self-titled album.

The group's second single, "Mary Jane" was removed from the BBC playlist after they realised that the song was the slang term for Marijuana. The third single, Volcano, was written by Howard & Blakely, who had written hits for Dave Dee etc.

After three singles and the album, major success had still not been achieved. The agent at the time, Terry King, had booked the group a lot of shows, they were regularly appearing on the BBC on John Peel's show, among others, they were playing, touring and promoting hard, but recording success was still elusive. Colin Forster was then replaced by Paul Brett but this still didn't achieve the desired result.

Disagreements erupted within the band, which led to a split from Elmer and so the Velvet Opera was formed. Elmer Gantry remembers : "eventually, EGVO broke up due to a change of direction within the band. Paul Brett, (who incidentally I had worked with previously and had brought into the band following our initial success) although a brilliant guitarist, had a strong interest in more folkish music and, with Hud's increasing interest in playing instruments other than drums, the band started to change direction. I did not welcome this change, and whilst I had great admiration for all the other members as musicians, was not interested. There followed a coup in which the other members of the band attempted to just replace me and keep the name. This would clearly have been ridiculous as I was already known as Elmer Gantry and the band was largely know for its riotous, envelope-pushing stage presence, not for electro-folk. The result was that they brought twelve string guitarist folk-blues guitarist Johnny Joyce in, and continued as The Velvet Opera and eventually Strawbs and The Monks producing the novelty hits "Union Man" and "Nice legs, shame about the face" and I continued with a new line-up, formed from the Downliners sect, as the Elmer Gantry band. I also later had a lead role in "Hair" in the west end, recorded on two Alan Parsons Project albums, did the lead vocals on Cozy powell's album, sang and wrote with Jon Lord on his solo album."

A second album, "Ride a Hustler's Dream" was released by the Velvet Opera on their own, Elmer and Colin having been replaced by John Joyce and Paul Brett. The album was recorded (as was the EGVO album) at Southern Music's studios in Denmark St. Paul Brett remembers : "It was an 8 track set up and was a real struggle to get real quality and instrument separation, but we did our best. We did lots of Radio 1 sessions and quite a few dates, the most memorable being with the Who at The Lyceum. John Ford and Richard Hudson were getting more into writing their own songs and they also wanted to perform them, Johnny and I were more into acoustic music and inevitably, we went our own ways quite amicably. Southern would have made another LP with us but we felt we needed to follow our hearts! I spoke to Hud last year about the possibility of collaborating on a new Velvet Opera LP as the bands reputation has survived and even grown over the years, probably because we have all done our own things. This is very much a possibility and I will pursue this with Hud and John. I did a CD last year with John Joyce 'Acoustic Power' that was really well received by the media. It could also be that there is another Fire LP in the future and certainly their will be more Paul Brett CD's and there are collectors issues on CD of the previous material and some unreleased Paul Brett & Sage stuff via my site www.fret-dancer.com".

After the split, Ford and Hudson joined Strawbs whilst Rick Wakeman was still a member. In 1971, Colin Forster recruited a whole new Velvet Opera featuring ex-Tintern Abbey vocalist, Dave MacTavish, bass player Colin Bass and drummer Mike Fincher who recorded one single on the Spark label. Elmer Gantry later appeared in the Seventies in Stretch singing the hit single "Why Did You Do It?" Stretch released four albums and some singles on the "Anchor" label. During the 90s, a CD of live "John Peel BBC Sessions" was released by "Strange Fruit" and a double CD set " Stretch, The Story of Elmer Gantry" was released on Repertoire Records. The Stretch catalogue is currently handled by "Trojan Records." Elmer is now working in the drug-rehabilitation field but still gigs occasionally both in the UK and in America.

What's The Point Of Leaving
Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera Lyrics

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Put your head on my chest
Feel no fear, lying here
I'll keep you safe and warm
Till all the night is gone

So lay a while by my side
Don't allow love to hide
I'll make you so secure

You'll stay for evermore

And what's the point of leaving when you've nowhere else to go?
You've got no destination but the streets
You're thinking of home now
Well really, you might just as well be here

So wipe the tears from your eyes
Think no more of goodbyes
Why should you want to run
When love has just begun?

And what's the point of leaving when you've nowhere else to go?
You've got no destination but the streets
You're thinking of home now
Well really, you might just as well be here

Put your head on my chest
Feel no fear, lying here

I'll keep you safe and warm
Till all the night is gone

Overall Meaning

The lyrics to Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera's song What's The Point Of Leaving appear to be about a lover persuading their partner not to leave by offering to provide warmth, security, and love. In the first set of verses, the singer invites their lover to "lay a while by my side" and promises to keep them safe and secure until morning. They then question why their partner would leave when they have "nowhere else to go" and suggest that they may as well stay with them instead of being homeless.

The second set of verses continues to plead with the lover not to leave, asking them to "think no more of goodbyes" and pointing out that "love has just begun." The repeated refrain of "what's the point of leaving when you've nowhere else to go?" seems to be a desperate attempt to convince the partner that staying is their best option, even if they may be thinking of "home" elsewhere.

Overall, the song's lyrics seem to be about the powerful pull of love even in difficult circumstances, as well as the human desire for safety and security.

Line by Line Meaning

Put your head on my chest
Rest your head on my chest

Feel no fear, lying here
Don't be afraid as you rest here

I'll keep you safe and warm
I'll protect and comfort you

Till all the night is gone
Until morning comes

So lay a while by my side
Stay here with me for a while

Don't allow love to hide
Let yourself feel love

I'll make you so secure
I'll make you feel safe and confident

You'll stay for evermore
You'll stay here forever

And what's the point of leaving when you've nowhere else to go?
Why leave when you have nowhere to go?

You've got no destination but the streets
You have nowhere to go except the streets

You're thinking of home now
You miss your home