http://www.kscopemusic.com/engineers/inpraiseofmore/
Beginnings and debut album
Engineers were signed to the Echo Records label in 2004, and the band recorded and released their first single "Home"/"New Horizons" in April 2004; both songs were re-recorded for the band's debut album the following year. The mini-album Folly arrived on 27 September 2004, preceded by the single "Come in Out of the Rain" a week prior. The mini-album also featured a cover of Tim Hardin's "If I Were a Carpenter", and the original recording of "Forgiveness". Their eponymous debut album followed in March 2005, preceded by the re-recorded Top 50 single "Forgiveness" in late February. The album was released to generally positive reviews; at Metacritic, which assigns a normalised rating out of 100 reviews from mainstream critics, the album has received a generally favourable score of 81, based on 18 reviews.The album's second single was "Home", which was released in June 2005 but failed to chart. In early 2010, "Home" became the theme song for the fourth season of the United States TV series Big Love, replacing "God Only Knows" by The Beach Boys which ran from season one through three.
Later in 2005, Engineers recorded a version of Tim Buckley's "Song to the Siren" for the 2005 tribute album Dream Brother: The Songs of Tim and Jeff Buckley.
Three Fact Fader
Whilst in the process of mixing their follow-up album, the band split with Echo Records and their future became uncertain. After a period of silence, bassist/guitarist Mark Peters posted a message on the band's official forum in February 2008 that the second album would be released digitally in the first half of the year, and that the band members had been working in various side-projects apart from Engineers. The digital release of the album never came to fruition. On 29 August 2008, Peters posted a new message stating that one of the tracks from the second album, titled "Sometimes I Realise", had been remixed by DJ Sasha for inclusion on his album Invol2ver.
By 2009, the band signed with Snapper Music sub-label Kscope, and their second album Three Fact Fader was released on 6 July 2009. The album was released to further critical acclaim, with Drowned in Sound awarding the album an 8 out of 10 rating, as well as 4-star reviews from Gigwise, The Skinny, and The Times.
On 1 February 2010, it was announced that Dan McBean and Andrew Sweeney had left the band, with Peters noting, "No arguments or disagreements prompted anyone to leave, but when we got back together to play after Three Fact Fader was released it was clear we had all moved on personally and professionally." Shortly thereafter, it was announced that Phipps and Peters would continue with a new line-up, and musicians Ulrich Schnauss, Daniel Land (of the band Daniel Land & The Modern Painters), and Matthew Gilbert Linley (of the band Gilbert) were added to the official line-up.
In Praise of More
Engineers' third studio album, and first album with the new line-up, entitled In Praise of More, was released by Kscope on 27 September 2010. The album was largely written and recorded by Mark Peters, with assistance from Dave Potter and Ulrich Schnauss.The album was released to generous critical acclaim; MusicOMH praised the album's "incredible melodies", SPIN magazine gave the album a 7/10 rating,and Clash Music called the album "a joy to behold" and stated that "In Praise of More has [the band] stripping back the density of previous releases, letting in a little warmth and allowing the songs [to] breathe, resulting in a broadening of their sound much to their benefit."
Forgiveness
Engineers Lyrics
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What if I decide to listen
Learn about a newer meaning
Reconcile with my indifference
Do I deserve
Forgiveness
Forgiveness
Don't want for more
You got enough
For both of us
Forgiveness
All these triers trying to reach me
Hoping I can serve them meaning
Commit yourself to reason failing
Extreme comforts ever pleasing
Do I deserve
Forgiveness
I need your
Forgiveness
Don't want for more
You got enough for both of us
You got enough for both of us
Is there enough for both of us
Is there enough for both of us
The lyrics of Engineers' song Forgiveness depict a contemplative and introspective mood. The main question asked by the writer is whether they, or any person, deserves to be forgiven for their past mistakes, flaws, or indifference. The writer acknowledges the contradictory messages and attempts to impose meaning coming from the outside world, and wonders if they should listen and learn from them. The song suggests that the act of forgiveness involves a mutual exchange between the offender and the one who grants forgiveness. It also touches on the idea that excessive comfort and indulgence can distract one from committing to rational and ethical values.
The writer's doubts about whether they deserve forgiveness seem to stem from their assumption that their flaws, indifference, or failures are significant enough to merit punishment or ostracization. The lyrics suggest that the writer is struggling with their inadequacies and the pressure to conform to the societal norms of what is considered acceptable behavior or values. By asking for forgiveness, the writer hints at a willingness to confront and take responsibility for their past actions or omissions.
Overall, Engineers' song Forgiveness is a thought-provoking reflection on the human capacity for wrongdoing, the importance of mutual exchange in seeking forgiveness, and the potential for self-improvement.
Line by Line Meaning
Are these writers trying to teach me
The singer questions if the writers of certain works are attempting to educate them
What if I decide to listen
The singer ponders what might happen if they were to actually heed the message of the writers
Learn about a newer meaning
The singer wishes to discover a different interpretation or understanding of a subject
Reconcile with my indifference
The artist seeks to make peace with their apathy or lack of interest in something
Do I deserve
The artist questions whether or not they have earned
Forgiveness
The singer desires absolution or pardon for their past actions or inactions
I need your
The singer expresses the necessity of
Forgiveness
The artist desires absolution or pardon for their past actions or inactions
Don't want for more
The artist does not require any additional
You got enough
The artist acknowledges that the listener possesses an adequate amount of
For both of us
The singer and the listener can both benefit from this quantity of
All these triers trying to reach me
The artist references numerous individuals who are attempting to connect with them
Hoping I can serve them meaning
These people wish for the singer to provide them with understanding or significance
Commit yourself to reason failing
The singer warns against relying strictly on logic, as it is not always successful
Extreme comforts ever pleasing
The singer observes that people often seek out intense pleasures or conveniences
Is there enough for both of us
The artist questions whether or not a particular resource or benefit can accommodate both themselves and the listener
Is there enough for both of us
The artist questions whether or not a particular resource or benefit can accommodate both themselves and the listener
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Written by: JOHN WILLIAM FELDMANN
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@davidarmstrong1666
This band deserve much more success than they've had...
@TheMelaniej1970
Beautiful piece of music. Harmonies are perfect, melancholic but euphoric all at once. Still cannot understand why more people never loved this song/band
@markottewell8897
Heard this when it first came out and two things are still relevant today. 1 is I still love it and 2 they are still underrated.
@georgewhite1972
Their debut album is without a doubt one of my favourite albums of all time. I must have listened to it at least 100 times and I will never get bored of it. Absolute masterpiece from beginning to end!!
@andrewturvill7145
every album has come at a point where i need something like this in my life. 2005 debut was and still is one of the most epic releases. and i cannot wait for the new album Always Returning, in aug 2014
@EricShans
my favorite album of the 2000s :)
@smokester71
Still a great tune, underrated band , albums worth a listen...
@timharrison2076
What I really appreciate about this band is that they captured that shoegaze sound without going over the top with effects and soundscapes, which I feel a lot of other bands of the genre relied on to cover their inabilities to play or write decent songs. They clearly didn't need any of that as their songs shine as they are.
@renevata2715
That guitar riff at the end gives me chills
@user-wu4gd3qy8l
So under the radar! I just discovered this band .. Amazing