Before forming Escape the Fate, vocalist Ronnie Radke, bassist Max Green, drummer Robert Ortiz, lead guitarist Bryan Monte Money, and rhythm guitarist Omar Espinosa were in multiple bands together.
In September 2005, Escape the Fate had won a local radio contest judged by My Chemical Romance. The gig awarded them the opportunity to open a show on the band's headlining tour with Alkaline Trio and Reggie and the Full Effect, which subsequently led to Escape the Fate's record deal with Epitaph.
On May 23, 2006, the band released their debut EP titled There's No Sympathy for the Dead. The EP included two songs that were later on their full-length album, Dying Is Your Latest Fashion. The EP was produced by Michael Baskette and helped earn the band attention from record labels and fans alike. After the EP's release, keyboardist Carson Allen left the band to join On the Last Day.
On September 26, 2006, the band released their first full-length album, Dying Is Your Latest Fashion.
In 2007, during the Black on Black tour, rhythm guitarist Omar Espinosa left the band due to personal issues.
Ronnie Radke was asked to leave the band after he was sentenced to prison in June 2008 for multiple run-ins with the law involving narcotics and battery for a fight that led up to the death of Michael Cook. As stated by Max Green, "First we couldn't tour out of the country, then out of the state."
After the departure of Radke, former Blessthefall vocalist Craig Mabbitt joined the band, first as a temporary replacement, and then as a permanent member.
This War Is Ours was released on October 21, 2008. It included the singles "The Flood", "Something", "10 Miles Wide", and "This War Is Ours (The Guillotine II)". It was the first Escape the Fate album featuring Craig Mabbitt as the vocalist.
Escape the Fate announced via a MySpace bulletin that they would film a video for "This War Is Ours (The Guillotine II)" on January 9, 2010. It was filmed at the Yost Theater in Santa Ana, California.
On February 15, 2010, Epitaph Records announced the re-release of the This War Is Ours album in deluxe CD/DVD edition. The CD includes two new never before heard songs, later identified to be "Bad Blood" and "Behind the Mask", an acoustic version of "Harder Than You Know", and an unreleased remix of "This War Is Ours (The Guillotine II)" called "This War Is Mine", remixed by the Shawn Crahan. It also came with a DVD that featured the new music video to "This War Is Ours (The Guillotine II)", as well as "Something", "The Flood", and "10 Miles Wide". It also comes with a world tour documentary and a behind the music feature. It was released on April 27, 2010.
In an interview during Warped Tour 2009, Max Green stated that the album will feature a song co-written by Mick Mars of Mötley Crüe, who approached Escape the Fate to collaborate on some songs but later was revealed that they decided against putting the song on the album and saving for a future release.
Starting July 24, 2010, they set off on tour for South and Central America, the country's toured are Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Chile, Colombia and Venezuela.
On July 26, 2010, Escape the Fate announced via MySpace some new updates on the album. They officially said that the new record will be released through a major record label, DGC/Interscope, and produced by Don Gilmore (Linkin Park, Bullet For My Valentine, Hollywood Undead). Its release was set for November 2nd, 2010. Max Green commented on it, saying, "This record is the cure for the modern-day music epidemic, We are wiping the slate clean and re-writing rock music as you know it.” Escape The Fate was set to take on a United States, Canada, and Europe tour before the release of the album, with Bullet For My Valentine, Drive A and Black Tide but later forfeited their spot due to Max Green admitting to rehab.
On August 31, 2010, the band released the album's first single, "Massacre." Their second single, and first official one to be released to radio stations, "Issues", from the self-titled album, Escape the Fate, leaked via KROQ Radio on the 9th of September, and later officially released the single, "Issues", on September 15, 2010. The music video of "Issues", premiered on September 28 on Youtube. December 21, the next single released was "City of Sin" with a music video for it on Youtube.
On January 11, 2011, the band performed live in "Tues Show" (Fuel. tv) the song "Issues" and "Gorgeous Nightmare" with the special collaboration of Kevin Thrasher (of Lovehatehero). On June 15, 2011, the band released a music video for their next single off the self-titled album, "Gorgeous Nightmare". The video was directed by Robby Starbuck, who has previously worked with Asking Alexandria and Silverstein. On August 19, 2011, the band announced via Facebook that Monte Money would be taking a break from touring but will still be in the band. Kevin Thrasher, who has worked with the band in the past, will be substituting for Monte. It was also announced that Max Green returned to the band after making a breakthrough in the first half of 2011 to recover from his addiction to drugs through rehab. “I’m feeling great and am glad to be back with my band. Escape The Fate is my life. This is where I belong.”, Max Green said. After they played a couple of shows at the 2011 Uproar Festival, Max, again, left the band and Zakk Sandler, from Black Tide (who was also playing Uproar), filled in for him.
Tj Bell, currently bassist of getting Scared once again filled in for bassist Max Green on the bands UK tour with Funeral For A Friend, who had previously filled in for Green on their tour with Papa Roach.
In mid-December 2011, the band re-entered the studio to work on the production of their fourth album. The album will be produced by John Feldmann and is scheduled for release sometime in 2012. It is currently unknown if Max Green has returned to the band to play bass on the upcoming album or if the band hired a new bassist. However, there is much speculation as to former Motionless In White rhythm guitarist and current Get Scared bassist TJ Bell will be taking over on bass due to the band tweeting pictures of him recording in the studio, plus his recent touring history with the band filling in for Max Green.
On December 27, Craig Mabbitt posted on his official Facebook page that he will be recording music for his new side-project all through January 2012 and recording for Escape the Fate all through February. He commented that since they are recording with John Feldmann again, who they worked with on their second album, This War Is Ours, the style of the upcoming album will be similar to This War Is Ours but will also have elements of their self-titled album added in. He teased a big upcoming announcement as well.
Current members:
Robert Ortiz - drums, percussion, backing vocals (2004–present)
Craig Mabbitt - lead vocals (2008–present)
Thomas "TJ" Bell - rhythm guitar (2013-present), bass guitar (2012-2013), (touring 2011-2012)
Kevin "Thrasher" Gruft - lead guitar (2013–present), (touring 2011)
Erik Jensen – bass guitar, backing vocals (touring 2017–present)
Former members:
Carson Allen - keyboards, synthesizers, vocals (2005–2006)
Omar Espinosa - rhythm guitar, backing vocals (2004–2007)
Ronnie Radke - lead vocals (2004–2008)
Bryan "Monte" Money - lead guitar, backing vocals (2004-2013)
Michael Money - rhythm guitar (2012–2013), (touring 2008-2012)
Max Green - bass guitar, backing vocals (2004-2012, 2013–2014)
Former touring members:
Zakk Sandler – bass guitar, backing vocals (2011)
Davey Richmond – bass guitar (2014)
Alex Torres – bass guitar (2014; 2015)
Tyler Burgess – bass guitar (2015)
Max Georgiev – bass guitar, backing vocals (2015–2017)
Discography:
1. Escape The Fate (EP) (2005)
2. There's No Sympathy For The Dead (May 13, 2006)
3. Dying Is Your Latest Fashion (September 26, 2006)
4. This War Is Ours (October 21, 2008)
5. Escape The Fate (November 2, 2010)
6. Ungrateful (May 14, 2013)
7. Hate Me (October 30, 2015)
8. I Am Human (March 30, 2018)
Harder Than You Know
Escape the Fate Lyrics
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There's no rush, 'cause we have each other
You said this would last forever
But now I doubt if I was your only lover
Are we just lost in time?
I wonder if your love's the same
'Cause I'm not over you
Baby, don't talk to me
I'm trying to let go
Not loving you is harder than you know
'Cause girl your driving me so crazy
How can I miss you if you never would stay?
If you need time I guess I'll go away
Inside me now there's only heartache and pain!
So where's the fire?
You've begun the rain
Are we just lost in time?
I wonder if your love's the same
'Cause I'm not over you!
Baby, don't talk to me
I'm trying to let go
Not loving you is harder than you know
('Cause girl your driving me so crazy)
And if you don't want me then
I guess I'll have to go!
Not loving you is harder than you know
Yeah!
So I'll make the call
And I'll leave you today
I'm gona miss you 'cause I love you baby
Yeah, I'll make the call
I'm leaving today
Leaving always drives me crazy!
Leaving always drives me crazy!
Baby, don't talk to me
I'm trying to let go
Not loving you is harder
Than you know
Yeah
Baby, don't talk to me
I'm trying to let go (I'm trying to let go)
Not loving you is harder
Than you know
('Cause girl your driving me so crazy)
And if you don't want me then
I guess I'll have to go! (I guess I'll have to go)
Not loving you is harder than you know
(Girl your driving me so crazy)
Baby, don't talk to me
I'm trying to let go
Not loving you is harder, than you know
Girl your driving me so crazy
The song 'Harder Than You Know' by Escape the Fate is about the struggle of letting go of someone you have loved and the pain of realizing that they may not have been fully committed to the relationship. The lyrics suggest that the singer's partner had promised that their love would last forever, but they began to doubt the authenticity of those promises. Despite their efforts to move on and let go of their feelings, the singer finds it difficult to forget their significant other and the memories they shared together. They emphasize that not loving someone anymore feels much harder than the other person may know, and the constant inner turmoil makes it hard to move on.
The theme of the song resonates with many people who have gone through similar heartbreaks, and the lyrics offer comfort to those who may be struggling to move on from a broken relationship. The powerful vocals, catchy melody, and relatable lyrics make 'Harder Than You Know' a popular hit among Escape the Fate fans.
Line by Line Meaning
You said this could only get better
You once promised me that things would improve with time
There's no rush, 'cause we have each other
We don't need to hurry, because we have each other to rely on
You said this would last forever
You led me to believe that our love would never end
But now I doubt if I was your only lover
I'm starting to suspect that I wasn't the only person you loved
Are we just lost in time?
Are we simply stuck in a moment that we can't escape?
I wonder if your love's the same
I'm questioning whether your feelings for me are still the same
'Cause I'm not over you
I'm still struggling to move on from you
Baby, don't talk to me
Please don't say anything right now
I'm trying to let go
I'm attempting to move on from our relationship
Not loving you is harder than you know
It's difficult for me to stop loving you, more so than you realize
'Cause girl you're driving me so crazy
Your actions and feelings are making me feel insane
How can I miss you if you never would stay?
You left so often that I never had the chance to miss you
If you need time I guess I'll go away
If you need space to figure things out, I'll give it to you
Inside me now there's only heartache and pain!
I'm currently experiencing a lot of emotional pain because of our current situation
So where's the fire?
What's causing all of this chaos and hurt?
You've begun the rain
Your actions have started the downfall of our relationship
And if you don't want me then
If you no longer have feelings for me
I guess I'll have to go!
I'll have to move on with my life
So I'll make the call
I'll make the difficult decision to end things
And I'll leave you today
I'll say my goodbyes and move on
I'm gonna miss you 'cause I love you baby
Even though things didn't work out, I still care about you and will miss you
Leaving always drives me crazy!
Ending a relationship always makes me feel insane
Lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Warner Chappell Music, Inc.
Written by: MAX GREEN, CRAIG EDWARD MABBITT, BRIAN MONEY, ROBERT ORTIZ, JOHN FELDMANN, JOSHUA TODD
Lyrics Licensed & Provided by LyricFind
Cheyenne Wild
You all can say what you want, but the hardest thing is loving someone, who never loved you back and you know exactly he'll never love you, but he/she ist still everything for you! </3
Cheyenne Wild
So weird finding old comments of yourself randomly. 10 years later i am a whole different person and life is so much more complicated than it was back then.
Loisse Cristian CAÑONES
20 years later this song stills so emotional for me
Iy Iy
Bro! Listening since 2012 here
orangejuiceninja6661
When you're at the worst then that means everything can just get better from where you're sitting. Love can hurt but stay strong. You aren't stupid. I was in a similar situation but I held on because of this song, actually. I know we don't know each other but I'm sending as many hugs as Youtube can hold just for you because that sucks and it seems like you need something nice. Hopefully things have started looking up already. Good luck. Stay strong. You're not alone.
Ricky oH
how life now hahaha
CZsWorld
I love scrolling through these comments. Everyone here is going through it together.
Rebecca Aleman
I use to listen to this crying over a boy 10 years ago. Now I'm happily married to the love of my life. This song still puts me in my feels though, lol
Muhammad Fadhil Setiawan
from junior highschool to university years, i'm still having a goosebumps whenever this song plays...
M AD
hello indonesian