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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

rainbowponnie

42w

Hi! I have a question about the third option - blocking. You say you can hang stuff from it, but what about putting up a pole? This was the best videos I could find for showing the different options:

Ball mount, for a more permanent installation:
https://youtu.be/O2aSoUZ5OCc

Or pressure mount:
https://youtu.be/VHEiSJVVoHg

Do you think either of this will work? And what would be the best one if both works? I have my fingers crossed that this could be the solution for my problems 🤞

Richard Hall

I loved the cleat notch trick. Thanks.
I have an engineering degree, installed audio visual equipment for about 10 years and as part of my responsibities in another job I did LOLER inspections and certifications on theatre installations. (LOLER = Lifting Operations and Lifting Equipment Regulations 1998 - they are UK regulations).

My perspective might be too belt and braces for most people but I like to consider the following:
Load path - for example even if your toggle fixings can do the job will the ceiling stay up ( well it depends on the dry wall screws) or have to flex too much and crack the finish?
Rated fixings when possible - eg the Zip Fix toggle fixings have a rating and probably a test certificate.
Fit for purpose - if you don't have rated fixings then does common sense tell you it's fit for purpose -eg hanging a bicycle from a big screw into a ceiling joist = probably OK.
Dynamic loading - or... will somebody try swinging from your fixing even if it's not what you intended.
Risk assessment - what's the consequence of a failure - could it fall and kill somebody? Or if you are leaving an eye bolt sticking out of a ceiling could somebody at a later point assume it's good to hang something much heavier than you intended (I know North Americans will probably say "..not my problem, sue me" but I practice Zen Buddhism and we say "may all beings be joyous and live in safety").
If it's something bigger like a chandlier then you might want to think about a method of installing it safely not just a single hanging point .

I have a variation on the cleat technique that I used for small data projectors. Use a dry wall saw to cut an inspection hole and poke a tape around to find the joists. Make a pre finished plywood or MDF plate approx 12 inch square and fix it with 4 x toggles or screws into joists if you happen to find any. The plate would cover the inspection hole and the first part of the bracket would be pre bolted into the plate ready to hang the bracket and projector.

All comments from YouTube:

Tekagi

1y↑260

If your ceiling is too textured to reliably use a stud finder, you can press a piece of cardboard over the ceiling then slide the stud finder over the cardboard. Stud finders rely on consistent, uniform contact with the surface, so make sure to keep the cardboard tight to the ceiling, and the stud finder tight to the cardboard.

Mike Samy

1y↑6

That’s a good tip!

Brian Fox

1y↑9

That's so obvious after reading it, but I absolutely would not have thought about it. Thanks!

Crim the Northern Smithy

1y↑3

Holy cow I would never have thought about that. Thank you for the tip!

SHALOM Serene

48w↑1

Thanks 👍

Nash

44w↑7

I like to use a hole saw and just cut massive holes into my ceiling hoping for a hit square on and hope I didn't cut my joist in half have fun youtube

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Dominic Laycock

36w↑2

Perfect, everything I needed to know. Figured that I needed (wanted) to do the blocking approach but wasn't sure the best way to attach (end screwing vs toenailing). Thanks for covering all the options with clear, comparative explanations and the guideline load numbers for each.

neolithic3

1y↑140

You explain things so clearly! I really enjoy your channel. Thank you for all your hard work.

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑5

Thank you, Neolithic! 😄

bhami

1y↑1

3/4 million subs, here we come!

TGNP

1y↑1

I agree 100% with your comment "explain things so clearly" this is my favorite channel.

papajohn fitbyfaith

Agreed

Jennilyn Keinsley

1y↑4

Oh my gosh, thank you for this!!! Option 5 is exactly what I needed to see for our weird ceiling situation! (Drywall overlaying old plaster and lath, with a heavy chandelier being installed in between joists) This is fantastic!

kelvin teoh

1y↑9

We have concrete ceilings where I'm at, so for me, it's the usual dyna bolt or other similar expansion bolt designs. The biggest problem with this is hitting rebars that cause drill bits to warble to either side and cause oversized holes. This happens more often with larger holes like 10mm or so. You could use rebar cutting bits but I think they should be used as a last resort as they could weaken the ceiling structure.

Richard Hall

Do you use chemical anchors?

Jami G.

23w

I have a concrete ceiling beam- attached to a concrete ceiling.

I want to put an 83x10x 1/2 thick wood plank on it. Can you please give me a suggestion on how to it?

JEWRICA NUGENT

33w↑6

The fact that you had a mock ceiling was so awesome. Thank you for breaking things down so that even the beginner can understand! Your channel is awesome. Keep em coming

Oscar Liu

1y↑3

Absolutely loved the clear instructions with the demos. Thank you so much for making this video!

AoDAzrael

1y↑3

Wanted to add an additional note about using the toggle bolts with the plastic snap-off guides - I've seen a lot of negative reviews on them from customers at Home Depot and other big box stores.

The truck up using them successfully is to actually engage and disengage the swivel mechanism several times (CAREFULLY so as to not snap the plastic) to make sure that it can swing into the open position more easily once you slide it into the hole you've made. I've gone so far as to add a little bit of lubricant to the hinges. What I've found is that the dust and grit from drywall, sheetrock or plasterboard can get into the contact areas and make it difficult to swing the metal toggle into position once you've got it inserted all the way.

Those fancier toggle bolts are not cheap so if you've got to use a bunch of them it pays to make sure you've got them in correctly. I also err on the side of gently jiggling it a bit more to ensure that it's properly placed rather than brute-forcing it because the plastic guides are super fragile if any kind of lateral force is applied to them.

But once they're in they work perfectly. I have 2 supporting a protector and another 2 for a motorized projector screen.

Geri Henry

1y↑6

Thank you so much for this video, I’ve been wanting to hang an 80 pound boxing body bag in our garage but wasn’t sure if the joist would hold, this video made me confident it will. Also Dewalt impact drills are the way to go, totally worth the money, plus Star Bits and screws to match. Love your channel!

$PACEBOi

25w

I'm putting up a punching bag too and I was nervous about the same thing

Kevin Siggins

1y↑8

This is probably extreme overkill but when I hung my heavy bag and gymnastic rings for my home gym I used a 4x4 as blocking and screwed 6” lag bolts through the sides. Then I used through bolted some fairly thick eye bolts using large washers. So far it’s been pretty solid.

nuh uh

1y↑8

In one thousand years, archaeologists are going to find that setup and be able to infer that there used to be a house around it.

Lori Miller

1y↑59

A tip for fixing drywall if you cut where there's no backing: use drywall clips. They saved me when I replaced my bathroom fan and there was absolutely nothing to attach drywall to and no easy way to fix the ceiling from the attic.

And a tip: if you drill into the ceiling and don't get sawdust, you're not drilling into a ceiling joist. I was hanging an antique lamp last week and my stud finder lied to me.

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑5

Good advice, Lori!

Anne O'Reilly

1y↑4

Drywall clips are new to me. Thanks for mentioning them.

Petter E

1y↑3

In my house I get wood chips or sawdust wherever I drill in the basement or first floor ceiling, those are filled with it for insulation and noise reduction, yey for old school construction!

Jeremy Granger

1y↑1

I've used those before on a vertical fix, over some pipes. It's seamless if done right. You'll still need to use a copious amount of mud.

Lori Miller

1y↑2

@Jeremy Granger Molding would look nice on a ceiling to cover up any imperfections.

Tommy

1y↑4

Another great video. I like that you explain things in a systematic way with many examples. The pace is also very good.

The Honest Carpenter

Thank you, Tommy! I appreciate the feedback!

Andrea Mara

33w

I love how he explains everything. I’ve learned so much from him. I am ready to start adding more storage in my garage. I feel confident that I can do it.

The Honest Carpenter

33w

Thank you, Andrea!

kreisherk

31w

I have an awesome idea for hanging multiple hanging plants and grow lights from the ceiling, but was sketchy on how to support the load. I started doing a search but couldn't seem to find the right wording to get the answer I was looking for. Your video was spot-on and answered all the questions I had about how to properly support my project. Thanks so much! I have subscribed and looking forward to seeing other videos in your playlists. 😎

Ross Malagarie

1y↑9

Thanks for the tips and info. I used the "add blocking in between the ceiling joists" to support a screw in hook to hang my bike in my utility room. I added two hooks and I can use it to do pullups at over 300ibs and it feels super strong.

Kim Stockdale

1y↑1

You're over 300 lbs and you can do a pull up?? ....I'm over 70 years old and I can run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Ross Malagarie

1y↑1

@Kim Stockdale thats super impressive

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Khakoo

1y↑2

I've used a board to spread very light loads over a plaster ceiling, but prefer supports to be many times stronger than necessary so usually attach to joists. However, more often than not the desired position isn't aligned well with a joist, so I employ a variation of option 3. Instead of screwing a single piece directly to the joists, I screw a block of 4x2 on each end of a bridging member, and then screw the side blocks to the joists with the bridge touching the ceiling underneath, ready to attach the fixture. This way I have screws embedded in lots of material, and all through face or edge grain. I'm only a DIYer so a little more time and material isn't an issue.

Songs With Ryan

This was super helpful. It’s all about finding the joists/studs, which I suck at even with all the tricks. When in doubt cutting out a big piece of drywall, locating the joist and patching it up when done is my go-to. If possible, I’ll install a small 2x4 piece around the perimeter of the hole so I can screw the piece back into place before patching it up. It’s a pain and leaves a mark, but it’s the safest.

catgrin

This is really a great instructional video! I randomly came across it via an outside link, and am now subscribed to your channel. Information like this is already important for safety, too often ignored, and it’ll only get more needed as people keep downsizing and optimizing their living spaces. I’m sure you’ll just keep getting views and likes on posts like this one.

Jobacuda

1y↑25

One caveat about cutting the drywall and insetting the cleat: In a garage or a condo or apartment, the drywall is fire-rated, so you don't want to cut holes in it.

Charles

1y↑2

The cleat system worked great for hanging things in my garage. Looks didn't matter too much so I put up a couple 1x2s cross wise to the joists giving lots of flexibility for the things I wanted to hang today plus the things I will want to hang later (whatever they are).

Rorisang Moale

39w

This was really helpful, I'm trying to mount a Monitor in my office and I don't want visible cabling so these options will definitely come in handy. Thank you!

Ethan Lane

Very informative video. It was just what I was looking for too. I want to create a shelf that I can raise and lower in my garage by winches for extra storage space in my garage. This was perfect for explaining how I could securely hang things from the ceiling. Thank you

spaci

The work around for the exposed cleats is to lean into it and make it a feature by adding more. You can do a grid look ceiling or false beams. Then you've got lots of support wherever you need it.

Lauren Ferrell

1y↑2

WOW! I have watched a trillion “helpful” construction/carpentry/etc videos and this one has got to be the most thoroughly explained that I have ever seen! This is TRULY helpful and I am so grateful I found you!!!!

The Honest Carpenter

Thank you, Lauren! I’m going to have a lot of stuff like this in my first online course later this year. Full builds that explain all sorts of carpentry concepts. 😄

Matthew Kennedy

49w

Building a big acoustic treatment cloud to hang in my studio and this is so helpful. Detailed, but brief and the to the point. Thanks so much!

qj

40w

same here lol

Ethan Heyne

My dad used a variation of your option 4 to hang a big chandelier. He used a quarter inch steel plate, attached to joists with countersunk screws. There was a hole drilled in its center to allow the chandelier wires through. If you really look at it, it's not elegant, but almost nobody notices. I suppose you could engrave an artistic design on it and consider it decorative.

Adam

23w

Cool video bro I came for a very small question but learned a bunch of other stuff. I always knew those building designs were for a purpose. I was wanting to attach one of those eyelets for a handicap trapeeze and was wondering which fastener you would recommend to the ceiling beam. Either the expansion sleeve that expands when the nut is tightened or just a standard hex bolt. Is one safer than the other?

Adam Grise

I've been thinking about adding a ceiling-mounted pots and pans rack in my kitchen - this video will definitely come in handy!

Kevin Bell

1y↑2

Good video. Might I suggest when adding blocking. Feed a zip tie through the pilot hole to make it easier to spot. Since most attics don't have the best lighting.

Susan Henley

1y↑1

Agree that the weight limits on some fasteners is too high, I never push those limits either. Was glad to hear you point that out.
Thank you for another helpful video!

The Honest Carpenter

You’re welcome, Susan! Thank you 😄

Regular guy

1y↑5

I’ve often had to attach some blocking for an electrical box that will carry the weight of a ceiling fan rather than just a ceiling light. Good video as always

Dwayne 73

1y↑2

You never know what future light fixture or fan will be placed on that box later.

Regular guy

@Dwayne 73 Exactly! I wish it was standard for places where it is a reasonable probability. That would keep me out of those attic spaces, lying on my belly putting in blocking!

Sjc

You're just incredibly informative and so easy to grasp thank you so much

The Honest Carpenter

Thank you!

Sjc

@The Honest Carpenter you're welcome, as a previous teacher and female. Take it from me, ALL YOUR VIDEOS ROCK WITH ALL YOUR QUICK TIPS TOO!

Tau Mag

1y↑4

You're an excellent civil engineer - it's all about the load and picking the right structure to support it.

The Honest Carpenter

Thank you, Tau!

AlanJ

1y↑23

Dude, this is the best video I've ever seen on hanging stuff from a ceiling. You are a master at explaining super useful techniques in a quick, complete way that makes it possible for amateurs like me to feel confident in considering all the options and knowing why and how to do a job a certain way. Creating the fake ceiling in your workshop to SHOW your work is genius.

Btw, a few years ago I helped my daughter move into an apartment with limited space and needed a way to hang her bike in a closet with a plaster/lath ceiling. I eventually came up with something resembling the surface cleat idea. It worked, but I wish I had seen this video first to think about how/where to best install the cleat. I didn't think about installing it on a diagonal. Duh. That would have helped me. Next time I'll know!

Thanks again!

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑1

That’s awesome to hear, Alan! I really appreciate the positive feedback. Thank you for watching and writing in! 😄

scaredy goat

This video is SO HELPFUL!! clear, easy to understand! I very much appreciate you and your channel! Thank you!!

Lawrence Humblet

44w

I don’t really leave comments on YouTube videos but that was one of the most clear, well-explained DIY videos I’ve watched. Thank you.

MissBeans

Great information! I don't have any ceiling hanging projects coming up (that I know of) but I do think this will come in handy. Also, it was just a fun video!

Oh, how does one hang a porch swing if they have vinyl covering the overhang of the porch?

DoomFinger511

36w

I like using the Franklin Sensor stud finders. They have 11 sensors and lights that show the full width of a stud so you easily see the center of the stud. Some also have an electrical sensor to let you know if a hot wire is near that stud.

Mars Feathers

Ok I'm really glad my first attempt failed early enough I didn't hurt myself 😂 I definitely needed to do research before trying. This is perfect! I'm gonna watch that video about framing the joist too and actually set my swing up right lmao thanks!

vivleon

1y↑6

A lot of newer construction utilizes I-joists or truss joists. How would you approach hanging, for example, a suspended storage rack in a garage with those types of joists?

mdwomble69

1y↑1

I Love and Trust your videos on your channel. You do a great job explaining and instruction!! Keep up the great work!!!

W

1y↑9

Yeah Option #2 is definitely my favorite Method. I had to hang a ceiling fan and I wasn't comfortable until I found a Soild Joist stud to hang it from. 👷🏿

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑5

That’s how I always feel, W!

Budget Audiophile Life-long

1y↑3

🙋‍♂️THANKS ETHAN ,WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS TO HELP OTHERS WITH PROJECTS, in an easily understood way 🤔 GLAD TO SEE YOU HANGING IN THERE 😁👍💚💚💚

Marcin Wojtaszczyk

51w

I can't thank you enough for this video, but I'll try. THANK YOU! BIG HELP. I appreciate your time put there to share this knowledge with us.

The Honest Carpenter

51w

Thank you for watching, Marcin!

Steve Elves

1y↑1

All very good suggestions. I'm always nervous about the weight-bearing capability of ordinary fasteners in drywall alone - these ideas will let me sleep better!

almonies

43w

Thanks! I have a tiny room and I can't spare the space for a solid chair. So I am looking at hanging a fabric and rope chair from the ceiling. Option 3 sounds good. I think I will use blocking twice and spread the load out over two anchor points.

RósFiáin

1y↑2

You. Have. Read. My. Mind. In a great way. I have lots of things I'm wanting to hang to use vertical space. Most are plants, which can get heavy. And most spots I can to hang them dont have joists. Its been driving me crazy having these projects unfinished. Ty! Perfect timing!

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑1

Thanks Ros! I bet you can get away with just toggles for most of those plants. You can even hang wire from two toggles! 😄

Robert Ford

Great stuff as always...I've used Raco braces for a lot of ceiling fans now as well as some heavy-ish lights...the Raco's are actually a very strong solution PROVIDED they're installed right...I hung 140 lbs. on one once just to test it and it didn't flinch a sixteenth of an inch...most 52 inch ceiling fans feel like a ton but they actually run like 18-25 lbs fully installed

LeAnn

I’m a learner/beginner and find your videos very helpful. 😊Sigh. I want to hang a “day bed swing” on my porch who’s ceiling slopes… I guess I’ll need to remove the panel to visualize what’s under it. Hopefully there’s something substantial enough to hang it from.

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑2

Look for the nails in the panel, Leann! That’s where the joists or rafters are. You can find the nails or screws with a magnet if you can’t see them. You should be able to hang from the framing just fine!

Ivan Ilves

You are an awesome teacher. Great stuff as always 👍

Tia C

33w↑2

Awesome info. What do you recommend for hanging a sensory swing for adults 300lbs or less?

dzychlinski

Ethan - love your channel. Got an interesting challenge/question for you: I have an unfinished garage with vaulted ceiling, and joists are exposed. Joist/ceiling height is 8 ft. Question: What’s the safest/optimal method to hang Olympic rings from the vaulted ceiling so they’re hanging down through the joists?

Richard Hall

If it was me I'd be using all metal: Unistrut channel. brackets. threaded bar, rated eye bolts etc. Unistrut is great because the spring nuts can slide in the channel and provide lots of opportunity to adjust and align things. How exactly you arrange it depends on if the line between the rings is parallel or perpendicualr to the roof joists- is there an opportunity to spread the load between two or more joists? If it's a new build then even just hanging both rings from a single joist isn't going to be significant compared with the loads it is designed to carry.
If you are going to board the ceiling eventually then you might want to make a timber detail the allows the straps to move without rubbing against the plasterboard.

MrDannyinla

Not sure why this showed up (I mean, I'm sure the internet is watching lol) bit this is indeed perfect. Mounting a pull down projector screen this week and this was so well explained, I feel much more confident I won't die from a falling beam 😅

kylecurryyt

Very useful and clear instructions. Thanks.

Rob Stace-Smith

Also important to know if there are any plumbing or electrical running through your joists. Makes a messy or dangerous surprise if you discover this the hard way. Always look before drilling up.

Mykola Shatkovskyi

Man, how you manage to create such a great videos each time! Thank you

Stuart Walker

Option 5: you should probably add a locking nut on the top side to stop it coming undone with vibration.

Stuart Walker

Locking nut = the two nuts tightened against eachother so they don't move. In case the terminology is different where you're from

PacificNorthWest Living

Heck yeah man, thank you for being dedicated to your channel. You are awesome and explain well with great videos.

The Honest Carpenter

Thank you, Northwest! 😄

Black Swan Odysseys®️

Ethan, have you ever considered doing some videos on stair remodeling? Such as newel post placement, types of hangers to use etc
Eric

The Honest Carpenter

Hey black swan, I want to! But at this point, I’d probably have to team up with a good contractor to do it since I’m not running my own jobs anymore. But it’s on the table!

Black Swan Odysseys®️

@The Honest Carpenter Ya I'm preparing the tackle my stair remodel. New treads, new railings.
eric

makatanau

Great video and really useful tips! Thanks, mate!

rainbowponnie

42w

Sean Hiscock

After my framing was closed in, I had an idea where lights & fans would be hung plus wall mountings for TV's, cupboards, etc so I applied bracing beneath the wall covering. Thanks for the video.

Kevin Drevik

Thanks for the information! I've used #1and #3 before. Very helpful

Morgan Brown

40w

at what point do we need to go further to reinforce the ceiling joists? In other words, what kind of loads would necessitate adding sister joists and/or posts between the ceiling joists and the floor/foundation?

Rob Zazueta

Any ideas on how to measure the amount of weight the joists can support without collapsing the house? For example, I'd like to install an elevator-like thing to get stuff in and out of the garage attic more easily. I'd guess with elevator parts and a load, we're talking 500-800lbs. Any idea how to determine whether the rafter in the attic can handle that? Or is this a laughable amount for the existing strength of the home?

Les Davis

50w

On using threaded rod, I learned the hard way not to use this for hanging a porch swing or anything else in motion. The motion caused the rods to crack and break over time.

Jim Pie

I have done the threaded rod suspended shelving. I did one shelf 15’ long, 24” deep anchored to the wall and held by 3 ….5/8” threaded rod through the end corner, in the middle and 3’ from the end. I supported it from the attic with blocking and through a partial floor. I also addded a 9’ x 3’ going down an adjacent wall with 2 threaded rods. I had room for another shelf, so I added another shelf, 4’x 3’ with 2 threaded rods on each end. I used flake board, on all. I have $50 in this whole project because the lumber was free from a neighbor getting rid of a platform bed. The threaded rod was $1 a foot from Craigslist and the nuts, washers, and lock washers were the rest.

Dean Citroni

1y↑1

I used to the joist ninety-five percent of the time. Then I will span the joists the rest of the time. Never thought of the threaded rod love that idea! Thank you

The Honest Carpenter

It’s a cool backup, Dean. You can hang some crazy weight from a 3/8” threaded rod!

Matthew Young

1y↑2

I ran into this problem recently!

I ended up devising a solution similar to the threaded-rod option described in the video, but using giant lag screws driven in from below into a 4"x4" crossbeam spanning three rafter frames.

I cut shallow dados into the crossbeam aligned with the three frames (an eighth of an inch deeper on the center dado) so the crossbeam would flex slightly under load and distribute the weight across all three roof frames.

quintessenceSL

Even more convoluted- use wire/chain/etc.

Find two joists to put your anchors and use a crimped section of wire between them to form a triangle. Cleaner than a surface cleat and even fairly thin braided wire can hold considerable weight.

Forrest Behr

Nice! We have a corner by a door that's always seemed empty to me. It's too dark for a plant, but a hanging Honest Carpenter would be a great idea. It would balance out the room, and be a conversation piece: when people came over, they'd be like "hey what's that?" And I'd say "it's my hanging Honest Carpenter, looks cool, right?" And they'd be like "damn straight...now where can I put my shoes?" I'd reply "on the rack, under the Honest Carpenter", because that's all that's there right now.

RANDALL SEMRAU

34w

Can you treat a truss just like any joist, when it comes to hanging things? Just curious, because its usually just a 2x4, and under different loads than a pure joist. Thanks!

Ofer Sheffer

Thank you. I have a couple places where I need to rework the ceiling lighting and I've been postponing it partly because of not knowing how to approach it and having no almost no experience with making adjustments to existing drywall installs.

gusr6

I did a version of option 5 when installing hooks for a hanging chair. I wanted bolts and washers up top and hooks down below. I wasn’t prepared to rely on screw threads having to grip lumber.

Bill Handymanbill

1y↑2

Great video and excellent advice! Thanks!

The Honest Carpenter

Thank you, Bill!

1252PFC

Second that

Kenneth Parisi

Excellent explanation. Thank you for your videos!

The Honest Carpenter

You’re welcome, Kenneth! Thanks for watching 🙂

DumbSkippy

23w

Your last method is great for hanging speakers used for Dolby Atmos, when you want to get forward firing box speakers, per Dolby Specs.

Richard Hall

RescuedMX

1y↑1

Once again Honest C….another great video brother! You rock! 💪🏼👊🏼

Sharif Sircar

I know so little about ceilings, learned a lot!!! I literally just used one of those toggle bolts few hours ago to hang a plant lol

String Theory Studios LLC

28w

Thanks! Exactly the information I was looking for!

The Honest Carpenter

28w↑1

Great to hear, String Theory! 😄

Ironicist

1y↑1

Can you do one about hanging stuff from concrete slabs next? Not every home has a ceiling so I'd like to know what are the options for this.

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑3

Yes, Im going to get to concrete soon!

nuh uh

Predrill holes and use "tapcon" masonry bolts. Optionally you can squirt some masonry and metal rated epoxy into the hole prior to screwing in the bolts to ensure they don't come out. I'd suggest also blowing out the hole after drilling with compressed air, ideally a can of air with a thin attachment to get all the way in (protect your eyes and lungs). The epoxy will have a poor bond if it only sticks to dust.

Dwayne 73

1y↑1

Tie rod might be ideal if there were wires, ductwork, or plumbing in the way preventing you from placing the block where you needed. But the rod is small enough to get past the obstacle.

Edward M

1y↑1

I used option 5 to install storage in my garage. Thanks for the video and tips.

Jb B

Great video and useful information. Thank you for posting!

Matthew Kyle Buller

33w

Thanks Ethan! This was so much easier to understand!

Barry 2379

When screwing directly into a 2x4 joist (part of a truss), there is probably a limit on the size of screw I should use, right? The weak spot created by a really large screw might begin to weaken the joist, wouldn't it?

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑2

Any of your normal #8 or #10 screws will be fine, Barry. And a 1/2” lag is fine, too. You just don’t need much more than maybe 1-1/2” of thread in the joist lumber.

LT1984

30w

I really appreciate your channel! What size screws did you use for the block?

Tyler Garrison

Great video! Any insight into the proper blocking method when you have engineered joists?

Dan Toren

35w

I saw a couple pictures of manufactured wooden I beams. Can you do the surface clear or blocking option with those? I’m pretty worried about drilling in the lower flange

cluttered chicago garage

1y↑1

I've used surface-cleats in my garages. When it's in a garage, I don't really care if it doesn't look finished. I used to live in an old building in Chicago with a row of garages behind the building that I think used to be a horse stable 120 years ago. The ceilings were very high -- maybe 16 feet. I mounted some surface cleats, attached some pulleys to the surface cleats, and then built hoists to hang bicycles above my car. This way I could store a couple bicyles as well as our car in our 1-car garage.

I'm about to do a similar thing to mount a surface cleat plus pulleys across a span of joists in the garage of our current house to mount my wife's paddle board to the ceiling. I agree with you that you don't get as much holding power with a screw in 1x or 2x material mounted flat, but if you're handing something with many individual screws then it'll probably be fine. In my case, my pulley brackets each have 2 mounting holes, and I'll mount 3 pulleys plus a fixed-pount pad-eye, which actually has 4 mounting holes. I think I'll use a scrap 2x6 as my surface cleat. So then the weight of the paddle board will be distributed across 10 screws that will go through the full 1.5 inches of the 2x6. With #10 construction screws, I would guess that it could easily hold 1000 pounds, although I only need it to hold ~40 pounds.

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑1

Good idea, cluttered! I think you’re going to have more than enough strength there. 🙂

altang884884

THANK YOU! This is the exact video I need to hang a heavy bag so I will add a ceiling block on end to even out the forces.

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑1

Should work well! A 2x6 with three screws per end is max strength 🙂

altang884884

@The Honest Carpenter 🤜🏼🙏

Mudai

47w

Is there any attractive way to create some type of internal frame within a room to mount things on the ceiling without actually attaching it to the ceiling itself?

For instance, if you can't use strong adhesives or drill anything because you're renting, but want to have very heavy items suspended in the center of a room. Is that a known conundrum, or unheard of?

Bobo Learns Piano

Great video, soooo helpful!

Milad Khorasani

46w

Thanks for the vidoe. Very informative. Would you also tell me the max allowable loads that we can hang for each method? I recently bought a heavy chandelier (270 lb) and I don't really know how to brace the ceiling joists.

cyn4rest

Perfect! Thanks so much. I’ve been wanting to hang a pot rack but not sure how to begin. I forgot how the joists run. Thank you.

The Honest Carpenter

1y↑1

Pot racks are great for joist hanging! Some of these cast irons weigh as much as people 😆

cyn4rest

@The Honest Carpenter At 81 I’m probably not supposed to be on a ladder but gonna do it anyway! Fingers crossed. Thanks again.

Dan Koning

Thanks for your time/effort Ethan. God bless.

Aaron Catolico

49w

What method would you use from this video to mount a 150lb - 200lb heavy punching bag through the ceilings drywall into 2-3 joists? I have access to the attic, but I want to make sure that the ceiling doesn't get damage and no rattling.