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Andrew Barrett

Dude, what is people's problem... Scott Joplin had an opinion, he expressed it on the sheet music of his pieces... it may or may not have been a bit arrogant, but is certainly proper for JOPLIN'S music if nothing else.


However there were hundreds of other ragtime composers at the time who may or may not have agreed with him.


Also, "fast" was relative. "Slow march tempo" doesn't mean slow... it means the slowest tempo to which people march in parades or to which marches are played. "march tempo" or "tempo di marcia" is a medium or typical march tempo. "allegro moderato" means moderately fast. These are all tempos printed on Joplin's scores. However again, Joplin was just one of many composers of this period and later, and while his advice is very good and proper for his music, it doesn't apply to everything. "Calico Rag", "Everybody's Rag", "The Entertainer's Rag" (by Jay Roberts) and several others fall apart if taken too slow. The music in them disappears, but it is there and solid when brought up to speed. Those three are prime examples of rags DESIGNED to be played fast. Each rag, or song, march, waltz, intermezzo, fox-trot, two-step, three-step, tango etc. generally has a range of tempos in which it will "sound good" and a GOOD musician will pick a tempo within that range that will show off both the piece and their interpretation to best advantage, and get the most MUSIC possible out of it.


For correct tempos I listen to as many vintage recordings (78s, cylinders) as I can of period music to get the feel and flavor and compare with the score.


While there were some time recording limitations that caused some very long pieces (classical, etc) to have to be abbreviated or even played slightly faster than desired, this was generally not true for most popular music which had to be danceable for people dancing to the phonograph in the parlor at home.


The same goes for piano rolls... the printed tempo at the beginning of the roll (paper feet per minute, expressed in tens... "80" is 8 feet per minute; "100" is 10 feet per minute, etc) is a guideline put there by the arranger, and can be varied at the whim of the pianolist interpreting the roll. Often for popular song rolls, two tempos would be marked, a slower one for singing, and a faster one for dancing.


Hope this helps,
-a professional ragtimer



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Meredith Foster

I've always thought Wallers swinging stride piano to be more infectious than Tatum's, who often plays what seems like a million notes at incredible speed. Whilst I listen in amazement to such dazzling displays, the latter rarely induces foot tapping in the way Waller does.

Jacob Zimmermann

I wholeheartedly agree. As I often thought, it' actually easier to emulate Tatum's style (and many people have done it successfully) than Waller's. Oscar Peterson, Dick Hyman, Bud Powell etc. can sound exactly like Tatum when they want to (even I can manage his version of the Tiger Rag... with enough warm up and on a good day ;) ) In other words with enough hard practice you can work up your technique, but Fats Waller had swing in his blood and jazzmen like that are born, not made.

Andrew Barrett

Tatum makes me WANT to tap my foot,
but at his tempos, my foot physically cannot keep up :(

Fluffshep Network

I love both Waller and Tatum. Their styles are just very different. Waller's is a more classic stride. Tatum kind of combines stride with bebop language, which I think is cool. Both legends, to me.

Andrew Barrett

I agree with your statement that pianists like Fats Waller and James P Johnson are born and not made (although of course each man had influences as a young man and each practiced hard many hours each day and played countless professional gigs to get where they were). But I mean their TOUCH and SWING; the SONORITY each man was able to pull out of the piano. Johnson, Waller and Tatum had in common with a few other great pianists of their time a rare and unusual quality: their TOUCH was such that they could be playing almost the same notes or the same kick, yet each pianist was instantly recognizeable, even if they all played the same piano in succession (as in a cutting contest). This trait used to be more widespread among pianists (of all colors and genders) in the ragtime era, but gradually nearly disappeared by the time of the ragtime revival, as by that time, the “greats” (who WERE great!) had risen in stature to become monolithic, and most revival pianists were trying to play like (one of) THEM, rather than developing their own style and sound. Of the Waller emulators, the best, in descending order of excellence in my opinion, (starting with the greatest) are/were Ralph Sutton, Pat Flowers, Mel Powell, Mike Lipskin, Dick Hyman, and T. Marvin Hatley. By “excellence” I don’t just mean all round musicianship, but how closely they nail the style and sound. Sutton, Powell, and Hyman all had/have their own styles and can play differently if they want to (in overall accomplishment and ability to play in any style, Dick Hyman should really top this list; BUT Ralph Sutton gets closer to “that sound” than nearly any pianist on this list SAVE Mel Powell in his “Tribute to Fats” (Hommage a Fats Waller?) which is spooky in how closely he duplicates the touch and sound. But most of these gentlemen have made entire careers of playing like Fats Waller, or with huge doses of the style, whereas Powell and Hyman have only employed it a relatively few times. But yes, in terms of “THAT SOUND”, there will only ever be one Thomas Fats Waller, just like there will only ever be one James P. Johnson.

Andrew Barrett

I have not included some pianists like Paul Asaro, Stephanie Trick, and Louis Mazetier in this list, because although they all play very well, I have yet to hear a recording of them playing truly in the Waller STYLE, although they play his COMPOSITIONS very well. I will point out that Louis Mazetier is however probably the greatest living exponent of the DONALD LAMBERT style, with Federico Insoli being second.

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Jeremy Ellis

This man here had the most deviously entertaining comedic smile possibly of all time.

Jacob Zimmermann

Someone once said that no musician was ever as comical as Fats Waller and no comedian was ever such a great musician as Fats Waller.

Ralph West

Tatum's speed and incredible technique are still amazing. To a lesser degree, so is today's Stephanie Trick. And the sophistication and meticulous elegance of Teddy Wilson is still wonderful. However, the sheer genius of Fats -- the virtuosity, thundering precision, lilt (when he wants it), along with his personal endowment, are and always will be unmatched. He will be with me until I can breathe no more. I agree with Meredith Wilson's comment below.

Soli Deo Music

There is no comparison whatsoever between Fats Waller and Stephanie Trick. It is not a matter of 'degrees' - they are in different universes.

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