Sábado dia 31 de janeiro de 2009 será a ult… Read Full Bio ↴FORNICATORS TERÁ SEU FIM
Sábado dia 31 de janeiro de 2009 será a ultima apresentação ao vivo e a cores da banda Fornicators que surgiu em meados de 2003 e esta chegando ao seu fim neste começo de 2009. Foram 5 anos de muita zuera barulho role furada role foda mais de 10 nego entrando e saindo da banda, so um EP de 6 som lançado, so queimando filme so fiasco, planos que nao deram certo, outros que deram, etc... Masssss foi pretexto pra muita cachaça zueira conehcemos muitas pessoas lindas e feias tambem e bandas sensacionais tocando por aí nos lugares mais longincuos sinistros inóspitos esdruxulos sitios porões butecos galerias beira da praia inferninhos e tudo que é esses lugares de depravado.
Com a volta do atual cantor Daniel Vilaverde à sua terra natal, decidimos nao mexer mais na formação da banda que ja nao estava mais afim de insistir nessa ideia se não fosse o incentivo desse gauchesco loco que so veio aqui pra mete a cabeçinha e logo ja sai fora. Sacanagem nao?
Os Fornicadores seguem com novos projetos
Fornicators foi:
Bira: guitarrra
Daniel Villaverde: vocal
Jeandrrê: baixo
Wallace: bateria
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X
Fornicators Lyrics
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Increasing what you did last year can never be beaten
The summers were warmer when you were a
Kid everything cheaper and every day to thrill
Doing break-ins in abandoned houses the
Caretakers were crazy we had to run and hide
At night we did car racing, jumping from a car to another
Just outside our homes where our parents were dying
Im just holding on to this pencil pushing it on
A paper, just to see what moves deep inside of me.
Can′t believe that I let myself sink this low
How the fuck can I appreciate the things that was going on
I was wasting my money wasting my time but
I'm not going to waste these thoughts of mine
Having a hard life can make you do something better you
Can write or paint or anything else that makes you feel better
But don′t you forget to visit your home to the
Roots and the stories that took place when you were young
No it's mostly raining everyone is tired kids grow up to quickly
Without the desire to become what they once thought
Was cool now days parents will tell them they are fools
But I think I know why and you will too,
If you look into their eyes you see that envy that shines.
Cos they missed and with out on their own
Dreams and that couses a wound that will never heal
The song "X" by Fornicators is a reflection on the passing of time and the changes that come with it. The first verse speaks of how distance can make things seem better, with memories of past summers being warmer and more exciting. There are also memories of being young and reckless, breaking into abandoned houses and racing cars at night. However, there is a sense of regret that comes with these memories as the singer realizes they were wasting their time and money.
The second verse takes a more introspective turn as the singer reflects on their own current state of being. They lament how they have sunk so low and question how they could have ever appreciated the things they did in the past. But there is also a sense of hope as they urge others to find something they are passionate about, like writing or painting, to help them feel better. The final lines urge listeners to not forget their roots and the stories of their youth, even though things seem bleak in the present.
Overall, the song "X" is a nostalgic yet melancholic reflection on the passing of time and the longing for the past. It speaks to the universal human experience of looking back on memories with both fondness and regret.
Line by Line Meaning
Things seems to get better as the distance
Distance often romanticizes the past, making it seem better than it actually was
Increasing what you did last year can never be beaten
Trying to constantly outdo yourself can lead to dissatisfaction and disappointment
The summers were warmer when you were a
Nostalgia can create idealized memories of the past
Kid everything cheaper and every day to thrill
As children, we often have less financial responsibility and the world is full of wonder and excitement
Doing break-ins in abandoned houses the
Engaging in risky behavior can be thrilling, but also dangerous
Caretakers were crazy we had to run and hide
Dangerous situations can be thrilling, but also traumatizing
At night we did car racing, jumping from a car to another
More dangerous behavior that can be thrilling, but also extremely risky and unsafe
Just outside our homes where our parents were dying
Parents can become resentful of their unbridled and rebellious children
Im just holding on to this pencil pushing it on
The act of self-expression can be cathartic
A paper, just to see what moves deep inside of me.
Self-exploration and discovery can be a powerful and transformative experience
Can′t believe that I let myself sink this low
When you hit rock bottom, it can be difficult to see a way out
How the fuck can I appreciate the things that was going on
In moments of struggle, it can be hard to find gratitude for anything
I was wasting my money wasting my time but
Regret over past decisions can be painful
I'm not going to waste these thoughts of mine
The act of writing or expressing oneself can bring purpose and meaning to negative experiences
Having a hard life can make you do something better you
Adversity can be a powerful motivator to create change
Can write or paint or anything else that makes you feel better
Art can be a therapeutic outlet for emotional pain
But don′t you forget to visit your home to the
Despite moving on and growing, it's important to remember and honor your past
Roots and the stories that took place when you were young
Our childhood experiences shape who we are and should be remembered
No it's mostly raining everyone is tired kids grow up to quickly
Life can be tough and exhausting, and children are often forced to grow up too fast
Without the desire to become what they once thought
The loss of childhood innocence leads to a loss of idealistic ambition
Was cool now days parents will tell them they are fools
Adults can become jaded and dismissive of youthful passions and ideals
But I think I know why and you will too,
The reasons behind our struggles and emotions are often universal and understandable
If you look into their eyes you see that envy that shines.
Adults often envy the freedom and carefree nature of youth that they have lost
Cos they missed and with out on their own
Adults come to regret the dreams they left unfulfilled
Dreams and that couses a wound that will never heal
The pain of unfulfilled dreams can last a lifetime
Writer(s): Melissa A Elliott, Irving Lorenzo, Jeffrey Atkins, Seven Auralius
Contributed by Asher I. Suggest a correction in the comments below.
Klader
Hi Nelson, I had a question,
I've always been a Christian but grew up in very modern times without any guidance, so I had to find my own way in the faith.
Did the sexual revolution change the dynamics of sexual immorality?
In my experience, my first girlfriend was actually only for sex. (She used me for sex too I believe, but sought much more behind it) After three months I realized I didn't want to marry her so I broke the relationship off. Her crying on my pants for 45 minutes straight made me realize this wasn't the way to go.
Later on when I went to university, I got a fwb, which was kinda so to say, a form of covenanted sexual relationship. After three months she developed the first signs of feelings for me so I broke it off. Felt like it kinda happened in a right way. No tears, no pain, for the both of us.
Maybe I am just Naive and have not chosen to actually "follow" Christ, but I have always taken him as the truth. I do think about his wisdoms and have built my own relationship with them/him.
EDIT: I come from an atheist-Christian background.
Could this be just a matter of perspective? Could this be a matter of finding right? Wrong? Acceptable?
Anyway, let me hear your thoughts on this!
Much Blessings,
Alan
NateTheNoble
The issue with sex before marriage has little to do with the Bible and more to do with the cultures that carried the belief. Particularly in the western world. Polygamous and polyamorous engagements between Christians still exist TODAY in African and eastern worlds. But they are not talked about.
If sex before marriage was a sin, God would’ve condemned men who had sex with concubines and maidens…he never did. In fact he encouraged it in some cases in the OT. It was adultery and the things that led to it he had an issue with (fornication)
Fornication in biblical terms refers to sexual crimes such as incest, homosexuality, bestiality, and whoredom/prostitution
The purpose of sex if for man to lead and guide the woman, and no other man should interfere if she belongs to that man
Fornication is an umbrella term to describe the many “effects” of adultery. Which comes from a contamination of the natural order God had established for a man to have with his wife or wives…
Men were mainly in danger of lusting after other men’s wives or “dumping” their women without reason. Something God did not approve of. If you have sex with a woman…she’s stuck with you unless you have clear reason to leave her such as her being rebellious towards you
Pedro
Brothers and sisters, Men and Women the scriptures say
1 Corinthians 7
King James Version
7 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.
9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
21 Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
26 I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.
27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;
30 And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;
31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
33 But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.
36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.
37 Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.
38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.
39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.
Matthew 5:32
King James Version
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Anna220
What is a “covenant” a covenant can be verbal and even implied. A covenant is not a written law. A covenant can be an oath or a pledge. A covenant can occur before an official “contract” is formed. You seal a covenant before you sign a contract.
It seems these days people give more power to their laws made by humans, over Gods authority. It’s almost an idol.
How easy would it be to abandon your original covenant to your wife if you come to Christ after, just because you haven’t made something officially legal.
Is this the hardness of heart? That we put our faith into human institution and try to save ourselves so desperately. Thinking that human laws will save us and not God.
God was a witness to your wife in your youth. God is omnipresent. any promise that implied till death do us part, even if not legally binding to a “girlfriend” made would be a covenant. To go back on that would be do “do violence”. (Mind you there is no mention of girlfriend in the Bible. “When man finds a ‘wife’ he finds a good thing.” “Each husband should have his own wife.” Belonging to only each other makes you wife and husband). Who does it better - one who stands the course until the end with their one spouse? or one who sleeps around all they want and then legally marry and that’s it, now that label makes them a “husband” or a “wife”. It’s not laws who define husband or wife! It’s not legal systems! It’s a covenant made by God, between a man and a woman, to be upheld for a lifetime. It’s not so legalistic. It’s a matter of commitment and a matter of the heart.
Many people these days live together in covenants before coming to Christ and then they get confused and pushed out of their relationships instead of encouraged to legally marry and uphold their original Covenants. It’s usually the Pharisees that do this to these new Christian’s. No consideration or kindness is given for the situation, for the love of both parties - all they want to see is the legal certificate.
Not to mention that if a virgin only knows one man, they push them apart because there’s no legal paperwork. So this poor soul gets all tangled up and confused, has to rethink everything. possibly be forced to break up, spend time in the wilderness and go look for someone else to share their body with. Is it not original design for marriage to be between only one man and one woman for life. Should you not be returned back to your spouse?
And what about children ending up in broken homes.
But this Pharisee legalistic teaching isn’t afraid to ruin lives and break hearts. Even brining some people to depression and further confusion. Where is kindness, discernment and wisdom. Peoples hearts are still hard, they need paperwork for marriage, just like they wanted paperwork for divorce. Anyone who studies statistics knows that it’s not a government marriage license that keeps people together. 50% of marriage ends in divorce statistically! These licenses have no hearts or emotions. It’s the people underneath that matter! Just like the sabbath was made for the people, and not the people for the sabbath. Legal certificates were made for people and not the other way around.
Tim Davis
It really should be understood as "sex outside of marriage", whether before or AFTER marriage. Yes, those who divorce and then have sex with another whether they remarry or not are committing adultery. Most Christians don't want to hear this but read it from Jesus himself,
Mat 5:31-32 - “Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except [l]sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery."
Spoiler alert, God hates divorce!
Malachi 2:16 - “For the Lord God of Israel says
That He hates divorce,
For it covers one’s garment with violence,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
“Therefore take heed to your spirit,
That you do not deal treacherously.”
Mat 19:1-12, Mark 10:1-12, Luke 16:18
Tamara Todorović
@Brother Toad But the motivation wasn’t economic from Jacob‘s pov and he spent literal 14 years working for her father until he could marry Rachel. Since he got Leah first, he still spent 7 years not having any sex while being an independent adult and spending every day with the woman he loved. It was never impossible, it’s normal to be patient, it’s part of having the Holy Spirit. He had the strongest temptation and still patiently waited.
Most birth control is abortifacient and therefore murder. All birth control is in general sin, since humans should leave family planning in God‘s hands and physically bonding with more than one person (unless someone died) is adultery which leads to eternal hell. Keep in mind Jesus didn’t allow divorce in any case besides if the spouse cheated, so a lack of sex was not accepted as reason either.
I know people that still make it work with one income, even low class people. Women can also work part time on saturdays and just cut out all luxuries, it’s not impossible. Women should not work full-time and put children in daycare, only onlinejobs, part-time and freelancing is acceptable.
But I acknowledge a lot of problems, we need to work on living more like the amish. They stayed traditionalists even while everyone else changed. You’re giving me more reasons to oppose feminism and the modern world, not reasons to give into it. Never shall we be like the world, but out of it, freed by the name of Jesus Christ.
We‘re always supposed to focus on God. The Bible doesn’t teach for nothing spirit winning over flesh when we get reborn. Pray and spread the Gospel, than God will provide the spouse in the right time. It is our duty to serve and the afterlife has more importance than the current. Dating should never be done, the early church only allowed christians to marry within the church, where everyone knew each other already as brothers and sisters. Even though believers are falling in numbers, we still have much more christians today than back than, so it should be even easier inside the church. People just need to be less shy and also you‘re mostly focused on worldly numbers. But it’s much more important what the general age of marriage is for most practicing believers?
Brother Toad
Jacob literally made an economic deal with Laban in order to marry Rachel. Joseph was betrothed to Mary, presumably at a fairly young age. Neither of them had to spend years scrolling through dating apps, playing the dismal dating market.
Of course some people get married at 20. But that's the exception not the rule. The average is now 30 and its climbing with time. For some people it's even later than 30.
Almost all churches have accepted some form of feminism. Allowing women to be part of the labour force drives down average wages, which means that men can no longer support a family on one income. Women who have careers marry much later on average and they have higher standards; they won't marry men who are less successful than they are.
AIDS and unplanned pregnancies can be successfully avoided if you take the proper precautions. For instance, if you use two different birth control methods at the same time the chance of a pregnancy is practically zero.
Again, what is a person supposed to do if they can't find a spouse? Why doesn't the Bible even mention that possibility? Why doesn't the Bible mention dating culture?
Who decides the state of emergency?
NateTheNoble
The issue with sex before marriage has little to do with the Bible and more to do with the cultures that carried the belief. Particularly in the western world. Polygamous and polyamorous engagements between Christians still exist TODAY in African and eastern worlds. But they are not talked about.
If sex before marriage was a sin, God would’ve condemned men who had sex with concubines and maidens…he never did. In fact he encouraged it in some cases in the OT. It was adultery and the things that led to it he had an issue with (fornication)
Fornication in biblical terms refers to sexual crimes such as incest, homosexuality, bestiality, and whoredom/prostitution
The purpose of sex if for man to lead and guide the woman, and no other man should interfere if she belongs to that man
Fornication is an umbrella term to describe the many “effects” of adultery. Which comes from a contamination of the natural order God had established for a man to have with his wife or wives…
Men were mainly in danger of lusting after other men’s wives or “dumping” their women without reason. Something God did not approve of. If you have sex with a woman…she’s stuck with you unless you have clear reason to leave her such as her being rebellious towards you
Nithish Oommen
It's hard to imagine not doing anything sexual with my girlfriend for many more years until we're out of college and have stable jobs before we get married, but I pray that God will give us the strength to endure.
Edward Prah
Our disobedience (sin) and opposition from Satan is keeping everyone from living the fruitful life God wants for us.
Satan does not want us to obey what God commanded men to do: Leave father and mother and cleave to wife.
He is actively opposing it and using greedy people and our sin to do it.
Plus our idolatry such as praising men more than God is not helping.
M Z
If you love her you will marry now. That's what our grandparents did. They didn't wait for the house, job, car thing. Why wait? Why not build a life together? People are living together and playing husband wife without the blessing of God. What does that tell God about your priorities to Him? Not you personally just a general "you" for the audience reading this comment.
Bible_verses_to_add
Marriage is an oath between two partners saying: I will be with you no matter what, until death separate us.
Neon cross
I had have sex before marriage and for so long afterword she left and god isolated myself for a reason I knew what I did was wrong and I I also knew god has something better in store for me for very long I’ve been listening to what he is saying and I’m doing so well in staying on the straight and narrow path I’m just glad god was able to close a door for me that would eventually lead me to more sexual immorality and im glad that through Christ I am made new 🙏
yyankydev
I am in the same path as u. I am cool with no sex and porn and all kind of sexual immorality now but my problem is the excruciating loneliness since we broke up after being together for 7 years. I ask help from God to comfort me
CaNdIcE BlAkE
Very good teaching! God always has our best interests at heart. ❤
urvoicerocksmysoul
Thank you for this!! 😭😭 Now i understand more on it 👍.
Dorcas Ntumba
This video made my Spirit very happy with how clear, concise, and very well said, I just had to watch the video a second time. Thank you so much for this pastor 🙏
Ashokey
@Solomon Terrance pray to God he'll give you strength to transform yourself spiritually you shouldn't worried about anything brother there is some much things to be experienced superior than sex.