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String Quartet in D minor H.III Op.76 No.2
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@elaineblackhurst1509

@@gonzadiazsola
I don’t think Opus 76 No 2 has any sturm und drang vibe at all; not all Classical period music can be labelled thus just because it is in a minor key tonality.

Haydn’s sturm und drang phase was c.1765-1773;* this quartet was written in 1796/97, so almost a quartet of a century later.
Haydn’s musical language had moved on a long way, though some aspects of the sturm und drang had been assimilated into this now high-Classical style.

In fact this quartet displays almost all the mature Haydn compositional traits such as:
- the intense working of motifs;
- tonal freedom (the sturm und drang works tended to be centred around one tonality as in the f minor of Symphony 49 which only in the trio of the Minuet moves to the tonic major briefly, or Symphony 44 which ventures from e minor to E major only in the Adagio, and again in the trio);
- the tonal bizzarrie of this quartet’s trio;
- et cetera.

Rather than sturm und drang, the Opus 76 quartets are if anything foreshadowing the post-Classical world of Beethoven, not works looking back to a long gone world.

Hope that’s helpful.

* The mainly - but not entirely - Viennese sturm und drang period is normally dated by scholars as c.1765-1775 as almost every representative work falls between these dates; if a work is outside these dates, its almost certainly not sturm und drang, and any ‘vibes’ have been assimilated into a more modern style as in this quartet and elsewhere, and almost all Mozart’s later minor key music (Don Giovanni, piano concerti K466, K491, string quintet K516 for example).



@elaineblackhurst1509

@@rabbibarrykornblau9877
Apologies, I have only just spotted this.

You can search analyses of Opus 76 - or indeed Opus 71/74, or Opus 77 - quite easily, but some of the points to note would be:

- Structural advances - variation and fugue for example;

- Wide ranging tonal experimentation;

- Quartets designed for public, not private performance - hence bigger sounding, and less intimate works;

- The compositional technique is far closer to Beethoven than to Mozart; not just early Beethoven, but mature Beethoven; for example, building extended musical structures from small motivic cells;

- experimentation with form other than sonata form;

- take a look at the extraordinary Fantasia: Adagio movement of the string quartet Opus 76 No 6;
(then make your own list of astonishing innovations);

- Et cetera.

In terms of this quartet, right from the opening figure of the falling fifth, the obsessive and concentrated working of the motif throughout is truly ingenious in a manner of composition totally different to that of Mozart - note ‘different’ not better or worse.

The Minuet is a million miles away from the Allegretto-type three in a bar found in even the latest Mozart - it is strikingly modern one-in-a-bar Scherzo-type pointing the way to later Beethoven (Haydn actually learned this trick from Beethoven; it is truly quite startling that the old man was still prepared to learn from the young man at 67 years of age*).

There are aspects of through-composition (the falling fifth or variant) which appear in all four movements - this is never found in Mozart but became increasingly common in Haydn, even much earlier Haydn.

In later German music it became known as a leitmotif, but the origins of this are to be found here.

As a general point about Mozart and Haydn, one of the features that separates them from almost all their contemporaries is the continuous development as composers year on year.

This is a key reason why Haydn moved beyond his great friend who died in 1791 was that he carried on composing until about 1803 (and lived until 1809); in those twelve years, it was inevitable that Haydn would continue to develop his musical language - in fact the language of music more generally, and as mentioned above, some of this was actually prompted by his lengthy encounters - both musically and personally - with Beethoven.

Opus 76 is a good example of how Haydn actually did this; as is in another area, the Representation of Chaos from The Creation which in terms of its shifting, unresolving tonalities is proto-Wagnerian; it is the most audacious, and harmonically adventurous music written in the 18th century.

Hope that helps.

* Some of the ‘Minuets’ in the Opus 76 and Opus 77 string quartets are nothing of the sort; they are genuine, modern, Beethovenian scherzi, this one in Opus 76 No 2 is a sort of hybrid with its own very Haydnesque idiosyncrasies.



@elaineblackhurst1509

MrMusiquemonamour
The ‘Fifths’ nickname comes from the almost obsessive use of the falling fifth interval throughout the first movement, not the slow movement.

There are however, a number of Haydn studies that have shown that the composer sometimes ‘through-composed’ works ie different movements of a work shared common rhythmic, melodic, harmonic and/or motivic features.
In this quartet, the fifth motif is evident in one form or another throughout all four movements.

In this quartet, ‘Fifths’ is a useful nickname to aid listeners in understanding the composer’s intense, concentrated and ingenious development of this particular motif, a compositional technique very common in Haydn - and later in Beethoven who adopted many of Haydn’s compositional techniques, an obvious example being the motif that opens his 5th symphony (cf. first movement of Haydn Symphony 28).

This preoccupation with often tiny motifs is markedly less evident in Mozart; it is a fundamental difference between Haydn (and Beethoven who worked his material in a similar way), and Mozart.



@elaineblackhurst1509

@@rubeng9092
It is precisely this simplistic caricature* of the composer that is my objection to the term which already during his own lifetime was being used as a term of ridicule, even contempt by some of Beethoven’s circle (search the story of the joke about who had completed some of Beethoven’s counterpoint exercises).

The term is additionally to my mind patronising and dismissive, and reflective of an out-dated attitude towards Haydn that saw him as genial, superficial, naïve and simple; it is in this pejorative sense that the silly expression survives today.

It is worth recalling that when the composer Kraus came to visit Haydn at Eszterhaza in October 1783, he noted that:
‘In Haydn, I got to know a right good soul, except for….It’s a curious thing with most artists…the closer one examines them, the more they lose the halo with which [people] invest them’.
(This was towards the end of a four-year musical tour around Europe, so Kraus was in a position to make judgements and comparisons).

You are correct that the term was used in Haydn’s own lifetime, but not to the degree suggested by your comment, and most certainly not by people not entitled to be so familiar with the most famous and celebrated composer of the day; neither you nor are I are entitled to refer to the composer in this casual manner which is not clever, but simply disrespectful.

No other composer is stuck with such a demeaning nickname, and thankfully everyone ignores the fact that Schubert called Salieri ‘Grosspapa’ which I find similarly inappropriate to that composer - it too tells us nothing of value, nor anything worthy of repetition.

Hope that is useful, and gives you perhaps a different perspective on the matter.

* I would suggest the character portrait should be rounded with some very un-Papa-ish character traits such as:
ruthless, avaricious, depressed, melancholy, dutiful, worldly-wise, ambitious, modest, self-deprecating, self-confident, double-dealing, unfaithful to his wife, intellectual, eternally youthful (a direct contradiction of the Papa nonsense), bitter (towards his wife whom he despised), a fascination with the wider world - something that stands in sharp contrast to Mozart and Beethoven (as seen in the London notebooks), demanding; et cetera.



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@calistalu4678

6:50 2nd movement
12:38 3rd movement
15:56 4th movement

@tonymusiker4316

thanks

@kristinasta8579

Thank you🙏

@MrFlorestan1

It seems to me that writing for string quartet brings the best, most ambitious, and perhaps most unprecedented ideas from the great composers! This quartet is a perfect example. The movements in minor keys (first, third, and last) are dramatically intense, rugged in their texture yet organically written. The second movement is remarkable not in spite of, but because of its simplicity, not to mention its melodic beauty and its warmth. Bartje Bartmans has seriously done a great service to the community of YouTube by introducing everyone to so many awe-inspiring musical works.

@andersonezraviolin

I don't know why, but this almost reminds me of a proto-"Death and the Maiden" quartet. Might be a far-fetched connection, but what is certain is that this is Haydn at his most inventive.

@elaineblackhurst1509

The short answer is that there’s nowhere to hide when writing a string quartet - every single aspect of the composer’s technique and inspiration is exposed; it’s possible in some other genres to mask over a variety of deficiencies in a composition by burying them under a big-scale heavyweight, and often spectacular orchestration - no names mentioned.

@rickshafer6688

Stunning.I love how Haydn makes a robust piece out of four instruments of the same kind.

@timothythorne9464

Rick Shafer each of Haydn's quartets is an irreplaceable jewel in the tapestry of Classical period music. They're each a symphony on a small scale.

I can't visualise a world without Haydn's wonderful creations.

@hayden6700

@@timothythorne9464 thanks man you're too kind <3

@connorknight8238

@@hayden6700 wrong spelling = wrong guy

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