Ozma
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Shannon & The Clams Forgive those little rabbits, I forgive you now. No it’s not…
Shannon and the Clams Forgive those little rabbits, I forgive you now. No it’s not…

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Rustymcnut

5y↑453

The Dark God surprises me in how... understanding he can be.
He started to be kind, realised his mistake and admitted he was wrong.
The same cannot be said of many other people I have met.
Mortality has its value just as death dictates the worth of life. Both Gods value balance, life without death is demeaned.

He also has boss moments.
Like that near genocide.
Shattering the moon.
Trashing Salem’s last demands.

He might be my favourite character in this episode (not the whole series).

Darkness, shadow, death. It’s the counterpoint to light and life, yet gives both beauty and meaning.
It’s necessary.

Rustymcnut

3y↑1

@ItsDaKoolaidDude
If pantheistic gods have no learning curve then explain actual examples like Zeus overthrowing Cronos before taking his place as the king of the gods? Or how Zeus, Poseidon and Hades divided their territories and roles between each other by agreement rather than designation?
As the myths go, they were not always the representative or embodiment of something. They took to those roles in their own legends.

And the reason why pantheistic beliefs were formed to begin with was to account for natural phenomena that were not understood.
The Norse hear thunder and can’t explain it, so they thought it might be a great being rolling his cart across the sky.
I find the pantheistic deities more tolerable an ideology because it accounts for both evil and fallibility.
That whole argument over if Evil exists, why does God allow it? Makes the monotheistic god either cruel or apathetic enough to subject us to or allow us to do evil, incompetent enough to fail to stop it, or incapable of seeing it coming.
Most other pantheons have some entity or evil deity that acts in accordance with evil or misfortune without touting an infallible god.

These two are clearly fallible and neither are omnipotent, yet are capable of mass destruction or creation, aspects usually related to deific figures.

Deities in any sense are a means to embody what is not understood. All of it a crutch to cope with how little we understand the nature of the universe.

Blazing Kite

5y↑11

Loophole
More like the key to disable the curse.
However, she didnt want to understand the balance of life and death

And after falling onto the pool of darkness
Is then, where she will never want to understand life and death, as Jinn said
" This force of pure destruction could not destroy a being of infinite life.
Instead, it ceated a being of infinite life with a desire of pure destruction "

Andrew Wool

5y↑136

"Ozmar, it will be up to you to guide humanity to it's rightful place."
"That shouldn't be too hard-"
"Oh yeah, BTW your girlfriend went crazy after taking a dip in my brothers grimm gruel, and she also stil has access to magic like you do."
"Uh..-"
"Also, if anyone gathers the 4 relics at anytime EVER ad we don't like what we see, you're planet goes KAPUT."
"Ummmmmm-"
"Also, even though we were talking about the balance and sanctity of life like it was some big shit, we're going to make you immortal. But not like you're girlfriend, you're going to go around body snatching like Orochimaru but not as cool, and you're not going to have a choice in who you revive in."
"......."
"Also there's a race of furries now, so good luck with that."
"......the gods are dicks."
"You've never even heard of the Greeks, piss off."

Tyson Dodds

5y↑2

I find it interesting how divisive this episode has made everyone's perceptions of Ozpin and his actions, Salem and hers, and the reactions of RWBY in episodes 2 & 4. So much debate over whether Ozpin is justified for his sketchy methods.

And the story of the Gods' meddling is Greek mythology. To them, the problems of man are but the problems of ants. They are dealing with some Doctor Manhattan levels of separation and moral neutrality. "The world's smartest man poses no more threat to me than does its smartest termite.”
I saw someone here calling them war criminals and listing their crimes according to human laws. I find that very interesting as it brings up a thought I never had before: Can you hold Zeus, Athena, Odin, & Thor accountable for their actions? How could you even?

I'm trying to look at things from everyone's perspectives.
Ozpin's been burned before and doesn't want to take chances. I get that. But hiding things while giving orders does naturally build suspicion and distrust in others. It's a plan that rarely works (Last Jedi is the 1st example that comes to mind). He did what HE thought was appropriate, but I do stand that he made a bad call.
(VAGUE SPOILERS FOR EPISODE 4? OH, AND INFINITY WAR.)
I feel that Team RWBY's suspicions and eventual reactions to this info dump with the hope smashing "You can't" revelation are justified as well. Who doesn't hate being pulled around by someone who won't tell you what you're supposed to be doing and why? Their reactions are perfectly understandable and justified. And after the 30 minutes they just had prior, who would be expressing purely cold logic? (It's like when people shat on Star Lord in Infinity War all over again! Smart? No. Lead to the bad guy winning? Yes. Understandable and even reasonable given the character of Peter Quill? Yes!)
(YOU'RE GOOD)
Salem felt wronged by the Gods. And in many ways, she was. They did her pretty dirty. But life and death are things that should not be tampered with. And Salem's own methods and attitudes didn't help her situation either. It started as loss, then selfish desire, then hatred and spite, and eventually megalomania. She thought herself above Gods and the forces of nature. And hate rested in her heart from the moment the Gods told her "no." I can understand her actions, but I cannot justify them.
And the as for the Gods... they fucked up royally with this "experiment." But I understand their attitudes. They are in a league of their own. What can any mortal do here? Can you condemn someone for their crimes against an amoeba?

☆ 𝘋𝘢𝘳𝘪 ☆

4y↑2

So the lyrics in Divide are actually true in this episode.

“Form your armies”
Is Salem going to kingdom after kingdom

“Dream your dreams”
Is Salem wanting Ozma back

“Make your plans and plot your schemes”
Is Salem putting lies into the head of men.

“Send your fighters, one and all”
Is everyone going to fight the gods

“Then in battle watch them fall”
Is the God of Darkness destroying humanity

Isaiah Wilson

@Undying_LonelySoul I see Salem as another example of what immortality can do to a person based on the circumstances, drives and the individual.

Let's look at Salem, as well as DC's Vandal Savage and General Immortus.

Salem wanted freedom from those who had power over her.

Vandal wanted to rule because he was stronger than others.

Immortus wanted to conquer everything before he died.

Give immortality to the latter two and they'll lose what humanizing traits they in a power drunk frenzy.

Give immortality to a woman who wants to be free of the burden of living with her losses? I'd be surprised if Salem doesn't still want to die a little on the inside.

Marwinix

5y↑3

I just want to point out that Ozma and Salem are probably inspired by the asian tale of Kuon and Rinne/Linne :
Koun is immortal and does not age while R/Linne is constantly reincarnating.
Pretty sure that you heard of R/Linne when you played BBTAG.

Edit:
I think they are setting up a situation where someone with silver eyes has to "purify" or "ungrimmify" Salem,
so she does not seek destruction anymore
and then teach her about the importance of life and death so she isnt immortal anymore.
I guess you could kill her afterwards to speed up the dying process.
Bringing humanity together is probably a long term goal that will probably not happen in team RWBYs era.

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MurderofBirds

5y↑528

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MurderofBirds

3y↑1

@David Brooks What's your deal with making comments about me shitting myself? Are you okay?

Malik El Alaoui

36:13 dumb question from someone who just started watching the show and just made it to V6e3.
what was so bad about V5? i always hear "aftermath of Volume5" and "V5 ruined the show".
but why is that? i could think of a few reasons, but it didnt occure to me what was so bad?
or do i dont understand it because i have the advantage to watch the following volumes right after Volume5?

King Zilla

Only cowards bow to nature natures course is the most horrific and pure evil and unnecessary and pointless and cowardly one there's is why because of death with out death life would be spectacular but no.

Life is none of the things I mentioned on it's own but with death it just seems like a cruel joke a lot of the times.

Nathaniel Mathews

5y↑1

I just realized their punishment for her is really fucked up considering the fact they gave her the choice to do so based on one of the fundamental aspects of man.

Ubel Orias

Is it just me or does the knight that Ozma defeats at 7:33, looks like the knight model from Marks "Linen" trailer.

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Vandruli

5y↑1.3K

"you know flirting was a lot less destructive in my day." um Ozpin

DemonGirl 101

2y↑2

OMFG 🤣🤣🤣🤣

ni ghidorah

Literally gets killed by girl friend in front of children

DragonxSwords

3y↑3

@Finn Heisenheim he would name himself the god of hypocrisy but i think the god of light already has that title claimed

MrAuthor3DS Switch

3y↑3

Flirting, he said. Not breaking up.

Anthony Fanchin

3y↑1

...yeah about that...

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galaxies_in_my_mind

4y↑192

All this time we’ve been asking “how do we destroy Salem?” but we all failed to ask, “how do we save Salem?”

Raiden

1y↑1

@Mandalor Ordo Well the RWBYverse gods are assholes, so they would keep it going for their own amusement. The God of Dark is straight forward in his torture, but the God of Light used manipulated Ozma into thinking he was on his side.

Mandalor Ordo

@Springing Some Traps i think that would actually happen.
As one of the gods would you really stop her punishment?

ZonNoDon

2y↑1

Based

Springing Some Traps

2y↑1

@Brittney Rodgers but how do we know if she'll still live after she destroys remnant, once she's done she may just float in space alone again.

Brittney Rodgers

3y↑5

@Motivated247 the gods laid it out clear, if she doesn’t learn the importance of life and death she will walk this world so long as it turns only when she learns that lesson may she rest. She wants the relics so that the world will be destroyed and she can rest, all they have to do is teach her that lesson and she gets what she wants

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KitKatBlackCat

5y↑473

Here's something interesting that I just noticed:
The god of light appears as an Eastern dragon; long and serpentine, with antlers and whiskers. In eastern legends, dragons are wise, generous, and symbols of good fortune. They control the weather and do what they can to help people. But do your best not to anger them, for although they are patient, that does not mean that they will not harm you if you cross them.
The god of darkness appears as a Western dragon: lizard-like, with huge bat-like wings and large, thick horns. These are the dragons that kidnapped princesses, burned down villages, and hoarded treasure. These dragons were seen as monsters to be feared and avoided, or slain, if you were brave enough.
Quite an interesting duality.

Desire Demona

4y↑4

@C Sylve reread that. She said exactly what you just said. And expanded on it both more eloquently and clarified that both had the capacity to dip into the powers of the other. As the god of darkness said "you may bask in the powers of creation, but you do not own them."

Toxx C.

4y↑1

Im impressed tbh

The Sentinel Titan

5y↑28

Immediately what I thought when I saw the brothers as Dragons, and they also support each other in that sense as well; Destruction allows for Creation to spawn new life to populate, which in turn allows Destruction to take away the withered life and open niches. This equilibrium between the two shapes the life that lives in the world they created to be almost eternal, with too much of either being the end of it all.

The planet was an empty canvas for them to fill, and while the God of Light created the Plants and the Animals, the God of Darkness out of spite made the monsters which destroy it all. Their final creation, Man, can walk the path of either Light and Dark, tipping the Equilibrium in either side of the spectrum.

I also kinda feel bad for the God of Darkness, as living things like us are naturally drawn to the light and fear the dark, even though he also created humanity, and the first human to pray to him was only there to use him. You can tell he was eager to show that he was just as deserving of humanity's love as his brother, even if it meant bending the rules that they agreed upon.

NaturalArcane

5y↑535

I just really love the fact that the moon being broken was basically just an accidental chip in the wall when the gods left through the door. Like, “whoops, my bad”

Edit: can we give a shout out to Ruby for all the questions that were answered because she asked one!

Fabio Cacciolato

Ruby asks better questions than Ozma, periodt

Epsy Blue

@MxPokirby Archive That sounds like the equivalent to graffiti on the moon saying "God was here".

MxPokirby Archive

4y↑2

@Kevin Dityam She might see it as "the moon represents the day the gods abandoned us", which I personally think sounds really metal.

Oda Gadoshi

5y↑5

@Pinkeyess power of questions indeed

Taylan Ertan

5y↑14

It was the last slap in the face from God of Darkness, letting Salem know how her actions ruined the world...by literally throwing METEORS at it.

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Son of A Bear

5y↑1.5K

Don't let this lore distract you from the fact that Salem and Ozpin had sex at least 4 times and have been fighting for child custody for generations. Edit: Holy crap!!! This comment blew up!!!! 400+ likes and counting!!!

Jeffrey Smith

@Adidev Vinaik I would say that Semblance is a remnant of magic.

Random Person

I hate to be “that guy”, but it’s been heavily implied that Salem killed her children during her fight with Ozpin. And that Ozpin simply made 4 other girls into the 4 season maidens because they are the ones that took him out off depression.

HERO_DREAMER

Least once, anyway - unless reproduction works more than one way

Depresso Espresso

4y↑1

I think the burned toy implies she killed their children in her rage

Bam the nerd

I claim the 1k like after the year went by...

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Black97

5y↑249

How to describe Sailim in 1 line:

"Someone who took the breakup in the worst possible way"

ZonNoDon

2y↑1

*death in the worst way possible

you mean

T M

3y↑4

Lmao

Galaxy89

5y↑225

The saying of “Those who do not learn from the past are bound to repeat it.” Is pretty much the theme of this episode. Who else agrees with me?

Anara Boudreaux

5y↑3

Oh Yeah you’re right

Adrianna

5y↑12

Oh, but Salem leaned from her past. She learned how easy it is to divide humanity and conquer them.

Rustymcnut

5y↑453

MrAuthor3DS Switch

@Dragon’s Touch Part of me feels like the God of Light was a little too optimistic in mankind...

Rustymcnut

3y↑1

ItsDaKoolaidDude

@Rustymcnut I'll have to disagree on these two being pantheistic.

While both brothers are shown to take concepts and aspects or spirits of light and darkness and possibly all that comes within their respective territories, the fact that the two brothers (I really just refuse to call them gods in any sense or perspective whether it is monotheistic or pantheistic) were experimenting in the first place would show that they do not take after examples of what we have with gods of both types, being that with monotheistic meaning that the single god is usually acutely more aware, pantheistic gods have shown to show no signs of "learning" or would be otherwise known as character developments, and even during the times people have made such developments out of the gods, its minimal or at the end of a story at best. And its honestly best not to go deep into video games because of the sheer variety and/or subjective/objective they become throughout the games, Hades being one of them. The Gods themselves show barely to no development or care (least of all Hades himself despite how in one ending you can show up and boast you beat his ass and he'll shrug it off like you just deludedly thought it happen)

And regardless of how excusable it would or could be to simply say they're just gods with faults, it still does not excuse them from having no sense in communication with each other nor does it give the excuse for what the two brothers have done. If pantheistic gods are supposed to be in this way then it is no wonder the pantheistic gods in human history has been dumped so easily mostly because of how much people relied on excuses for clear and utter failures.

Rolando 90

@ItsDaKoolaidDude yup

Rustymcnut

3y↑2

@ItsDaKoolaidDude
Depends on what you consider a god.
A monotheistic deity is more often than not made out to be a omniscient and omnipotent entity.
For a pantheistic perspective gods are powerful but not omniscient.
The fact that these two gods were experimenting goes to show that they are learning which may disqualify them from your definition.

From my rudimentary understanding of deities of various pantheons the concept of god is either an aspect of nature or spirit that is as fallible and full of vice as people or some ideal vision of perfection.

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wiseguy149

5y↑82

"Jinn, will Arnold ever be able to watch an episode of RWBY without screaming enthusiastically?"

"He can't."

Lucas Durham-Styles

5y↑6

i would watch them if it wasnt just so loud. an occasional outburst isnt bad but when someones like oh look at rubys new hairstyle and he's like AAAAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! thats when i just back out lol like i said he doesnt seem like a bad guy tho, just loud

Raziel 2499

5y↑984

I don't need the relic of knowledge to know that dear Arnold is gonna screaming the whole episode.

Lucas Durham-Styles

5y↑3

the guy seems cool but i cant even watch his videos cause he's screaming too goddamn much lol

C.D. McClendon

He is a hardcore fan, ya know?

Ginger Gorilla

He's in for a ride

Courtney

5y↑1

😂😂😂😂

Boris Austria

5y↑1

Haha! Nice one!

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Caden Saunders

5y↑116

“You cannot be with your lover”

Brings her lover back to life

Matthew Leong

2y↑3

That was after Salem refused to learn from her mistakes and fucked things up even further. They were hoping Ozma could talk sense into her and help her realize her mistakes. Unfortunately, they were wrong.

Mitchell Saisho

2y↑1

Jaune and Taiyang: "write that down, write that down!"

HypnoticRobot Gaming

3y↑21

The gods are merciful. They gave salem another chance. And she fucked it up.

Jackson Van Eekeren

5y↑48

“Because the god of darkness was super extra when he left”

Im dead

ChaosContrl

5y↑238

Ozma: "How do I destroy Salem?"
Answer: "You can't"

Ozma cannot destroy Salem. Period.

Raiden

@Jedi Mercenary Simple: Talk no jutsu

Mandalor Ordo

To be fair, i think he wasnt in a rational mood to ask the right question.

The Fine

2y↑1

@DagiAkechi in that case she should have told him: "You must find x and they have to do *this*"
Salem cant be killed but maybe she can be redeemed and pass on that way. "You shall walk this world until you learn the importance of life and death."

Brittney Rodgers

@Torrey Williams she wants to bring the relics together to bring the gods back so they’ll judge the world and destroy it because of the way the gods worded her curse ‘you are cursed to walk this world so long as it turns’ if they destroy it she gets to die. Alternatively since they can’t destroy her they need to teach her the importance of life and death so that the gods will let her rest

DagiAkechi

Right, Recently I Was Thinking That Ozma Cannot Stop Salem, But Someone Else Can

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TheLangenator

5y↑74

I do really like how the God of Light is an Eastern dragon and the God of Darkness is a Western dragon. Eastern dragons are usually depicted as divine beings with great wisdom, while Western dragon are usually depicted as arrogant, violent, and destructive.

El Cid Secundo

5y↑529

What if DUST were the previous humans. now used to power the weapons.

Pop Culture Guru

Bruh!

Torrey Williams

@Shelby Bayer Who turns into dust? The only person who turned into "dust" was Pyrrha, but it was actually just Cinder evaporating her body. In RWBY people just die like us, you saw that with Clover.

Shelby Bayer

Explains why dead People turn to Dust in the show

And why People who do die (Like Pyrrha 😭) Are different colors of dust when they die

Santo Tan

Which basically what fossil fuels are.

Oda Gadoshi

5y↑2

@freeloader9000 Fullmetal RWBY 😂😂😂 so the dust are the Philosopher stones, just more cheap 😁

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Xyon ✅

5y↑125

The plot was well done
We haven't had this quality of writing since Volume 3.

ZonNoDon

Lol

Xyon ✅

5y↑9

@Curtis Murphy, you can go ahead and look at forums before Volume 6, the comment section of the episodes before Volume 6 in Youtube, and in the groups on Social Media platform like Facebook and you can estimate the majority of the fandom have the same thought as mine.

Actually, they're the first ones to raise this opinion and lots of people agreed.

Curtis Murphy

5y↑3

@Xyon ✅ Hardly think you can speak for most of the viewers.

Ethan Solorzano

5y↑10

@Xyon ✅ I agree volume 4 was ok, volume 5 was super jumbled volume 6 they got their footing back.

Xyon ✅

5y↑11

@MRocky323, for you maybe.
But for the most of the viewers it was.

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Jaylen McMahand

5y↑15

When the moon gets destroyed and Salem screams "WHY?!" it gives me chills. Such a sad, and powerful scene.

KC Francisco

5y↑65

Ozma didn't really get dragged into it, the god of light offered him the choice because he was the best suited for the task given it was Salem, the god of light probably thought maybe Ozma could get through to her since the whole conflict started because Salem just wanted Ozma back. But Salem had changed far too much hence why the things went they way they went. Ozma chose to accept the task mostly because he found out Salem wouldn't be in the afterlife so he accepted the task to, for the most part in that spur of the moment, be with her. Ozma didn't really think about the warning that the God of light had given him when he said that Salem wasn't the woman he used to know anymore.

ZonNoDon

Yup

- SageAegis -

4y↑1

Incorrect he was told too then asked not too it was a Pyrrha situation he had a fake choice

Why Hello There

Jabu Decapricornio

5y↑725

I'm really surpised with the God of Darkness , I thought that he was going to be a cliché edgelord but instead he was kinda of composed and not really evil , more like chaotic neutral

Isaak-MagicMan

5y↑1

@Declan Olivetti I dunno. Chaotic evil can be pretty fun. Either that or a Kenku bard. You know, since you can't sing :)

Taylan Ertan

5y↑3

@MrLittlelawyer You saw that literally happened...and God of Darkness LITERALLY destroyed humanity with a single hand gesture....so no, even united, you cannot fight against your creators when you are created by their own power. A better anology is if Gods are the ones that created the Ants from their own powers....and they can blink them away in an instant if they like.

And those first Humans were full of magic of the Gods themselves....RWBY's time of humans and faunus does not even have the fraction of it, so this humanity would not even be ants...but bacteria.

MadMax

5y↑1

@Dracos210 Me too, the God of Light is a prick. I was on the God of Darkness's side at first when he was bringing Ozma back.

chaosXpert

5y↑4

@Dracos210 God of Light isn't bad. He's actually the one that gave Humanity a second chance to start again and achieve harmony by reincarnating Ozpin and creating the Relics.

Rustymcnut

5y↑1

And I like his character for it.

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BrothaJdogg

5y↑25

Jinn: “Ozma, the infallible hero of legend, fell ill, and where all the beasts and blades of the world fell short, a single sickness prevailed”

Me: ....OMG Ozma is the RWBY universe’s Monty!!! *sobs uncontrollably

Jane St. Valentine

3y↑3

Wow, before this episode came I had a theory that Oz's name was originally Monty... I can't believe I never made this connection before.

dawane stewart

3y↑8

Them: “there must be balance”
Also them: ‘resurrects a person infinitely and made his wife eternal”

Nellie Blackwing

5y↑22

Key words:
Ozmo: How do I destroy Salem?
Jinn: You can't!

Mandalor Ordo

Hazel tried too.

Ower8x

5y↑167

She is immortal she can not be killed ... but there is a loophole : the god of light said so : you have to learn the value of Life and Death only then will you know peace

I dont think those are the maidens ... more like Oz saw his daughters in the original maidens that is why he tolerated them and eventually gave them magic

Francesco Cappelli

Fault of salem

Blazing Kite

5y↑11

William Allison

5y↑46

9:41 the stuttering makes his reaction so enjoyable

not even i could contain myself

Lumas825

4y↑8

Okay, so I just realized something: intentionally or otherwise, the Brothers pulled a Frankenstein on Salem. They created a monster, then scorned it when it wasn't to their liking. They ignored and denied its pleas for a companion/lover. Later on, the monster tries to find happiness another way, but gets pushed back again, this time from the one it grew to love (the old blind man in the original Frankenstein). Then, the monster, abandoned by its creators and seemingly betrayed by its "object" of affection, yet more powerful than any one being likely should be, rampages. All it does is wreak havoc and destruction. All it wants now is destruction, and termination.

Dylan760

5y↑36

My theory at the moment: the first generation of humans was created by the gods but the 2nd generation of humans was born from dust influenced by the gods

Andrew Wool

5y↑136

Amitesh Choudhary

3y↑4

Best comment ever.. ........ ...... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Nile Thompson

4y↑5

Pretty much

G

4y↑17

That moment when you realize that The Brothers might be on a higher plane compared to the Olympian pantheon (and be acquainted with them, too)

Desiree Purnell-Sandi

5y↑9

When I first watched this and see Ozpin's first reincarnation, I was like "OMG, he looks just like Oscar when he's older, not to mention cute". 😊😊😊 Now, I know where Ozpin got that walk from Volume 2. Apparently, he's inherited Ozma's swag which then turned into Ozpin's strut, and now Oscar's got that sass in his voice I noticed in the beginning of Volume 6. No wonder the Beacon staff and Ironwood are jealous of Ozpin.😉😉😉

Also, I was thinking of what Jinn said about Salem not being destroyed. If not by primitive means as we have seen in the vision, then maybe the power of the Silver Eyes could have two purposes, such as purifying Salem of the Grimm pool essence, or taking away the essence of Immortality.

Maple

5y↑26

Arnold, Ozpin seems to reincarnate into farmers a lot and in volume 1 episode 12 Jaune says: "I could always be a farmer or something " maybe Monty/Miles/ Kerry are hinting and foreshadowing and you may just be right...

Артём Мачин

3y↑7

The moon: exists.
The dark god: "and I took that personally"

MurderofBirds

3y↑2

Hi! My name’s Catrina!

5y↑7

The effect on Salem’s body when she gets immortality reminds me of the effect when Jaune uses his semblance.

SpectralArchivist

4y↑4

Man, I can't believe I never thought of that... He asked her "How do I destroy Salem", and she answered. "You can't." That doesn't mean no one can. It means Oz can't. And that's what no one in the group understands. If he had asked how can Salem be beaten, she probably would have given a different answer.

Mandalor Ordo

Maybe Ruby can with her eyes?
Salem is part Grimm now.

Dogtaro

5y↑22

I remember the time the VA for the God of Light said "I fucking love you" to me in an overwatch match

Pinkeyess

5y↑2

Wow. That's cool.

CruelestChris

4y↑5

"If you unite the relics we'll come back and judge humans."
"You killed all humans once already. These aren't even the same humans."
"This is somehow also my brother's fault."

Daniel Benner

5y↑3

8:45 After seeing Weiss' reaction to what happened here, I'd like to see someone call her an Ice Queen one more time.

Michael Scott

5y↑735

Volume 6 is knocking it outta the freaking park so far!

thebeav PercabethFTW

Thanks.

thebeav PercabethFTW

You call it strength, I call it foolishness.

thebeav PercabethFTW

Of course he did, because retcon is his favorite word to use. Honestly, he seems to think that Music should only be interpreted one way, his way. I interpret Divide, less as Salem taking a moral stand against Ozpin, and more as her taunting Ozpin for all the lives lost fighting this impossible war against her.

Classic FBI

WTF is wrong with your "likes" count??

thebeav PercabethFTW

5y↑1

It's fine, I've seen longer essays and well put.

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Destiny Ryu

5y↑7

After seeing this chapter I came up whith this Teory:
I think that Salem can be defeated. Ozma asqued Jinn if HE could defeat Salem and Jinn answered YOU can't. Which leaves the posibility that someone else can. Plus the silver eyes destroy the creatures of Grim and Salem has become partialy Grim so I think that Ruby and the last question left are the key to be able to defeat or at least neutralize Salem.
Explanation:
By making Salem ask the right question she could finaly understend what the gods whanted her to, and by doing so she will become mortal once again and at that moment Ruby will have to use her silver eyes to finaly get rid of Salem (or at least Grim Salem). And if Ruby's eyes don't kill her at least she wont have her Grim powers eny more and someone else will be able to give her the final shot.
Sorry for my bad English.

gunwon

Delfin San I mean, the point of the relics is to bring the gods back to the earth for humanity to be judged. That means, if team RWBY can bring humanity together and prove the gods that humans can work together, it doesn’t really matter if Salem has the relics, correct?

Big Papa Baird

5y↑3

Arnold: "I'm going to try to survive this next half hour"
Me: Having seen this chapter already "Oooooooohhhhh boy!!.....Good luck!" xD

I've been looking forward to this video ever since I saw this chapter when it came out! And once again you didn't disappoint!! Love your reactions and your passion man!!!

Xercio

3y↑2

What a great video, reaction is heartfelt, summary is quick and precise, and your takeaways and predictions and well worded and very thought out.

This, ladies and gents, is a true fan.

ItsVega94

5y↑5

I was excited within the first 10 seconds of this reaction

Arnold: WHy is this episode so long!?

Me: oooooooooh buddy

Katsuo

5y↑255

20 seconds after God of Darkness kills the entire world
Murder: “I kinda like him, he aint that bad”

AeroHydra

@MABfan11 I believe in Volume 4 there was the fairytale that Qrow told, where Light and Darkness found compromise in creating man. So by the time of this story, they had long ironed out their differences and became relatively reasonable compared to their radical beginnings. Hence the reason why darkness eventually goes back in reincarnating Ozma.

TheSassyDuke(Clips)

Lmao!

Brian brush

When you rule the afterlife killing someone Dosent really have much weight

Chaos Knight

5y↑5

Dude's pretty chill lol

amuro kaiser

5y↑1

god of darkness is so sugoi!!

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Tyson Dodds

5y↑2

TrapInRealLife

5y↑20

I rly wonder what the latest question is Ozpin asked the Jinn.

Jared Garbo

5y↑5

Honestly its sad that people haven realized that both of the brothers were Dragons, but the Dark brother was a dragon in the western tradition and the Light brother was a dragon in the eastern tradition.

KevSB07

5y↑1

It's really cool what they did with them visually.

☆ 𝘋𝘢𝘳𝘪 ☆

4y↑2

Jenny

5y↑395

I think Ozpin's daughters died.
I think the four maidens reminded him of his daughters so he gave them the magic his daughter's had.

Damaris Pierce

I thought they reincarnated in some fashion. Like, they were rebirthed. Idk, I live the concept of little maiden children

Francesco Cappelli

Hope volume ending peace of ozma

KevSB07

But why would the power transfer to new maidens if the original maidens got it hereditarily?
Remember what Qrow said about how the powers transfer? “Whoever was in her final thoughts, unless it’s a dude, or some old hag.”
Why would these kids’ final thoughts not be about their parents, even if their powers do transfer? Ozpin nows whether or not his children died there (And we’re assuming they did) so he would know that if their powers transferred, it wouldn’t be because of their final thoughts. I’m fairly certain his daughters are merely symbolic of the maidens, and whether or not the fairytale itself is true, he’s gave the powers to four girls later, and intentionally made their power transfer.

CallMe Gekkouga

They also had silver eyes

Kurai1

@Kyte A old run down house that you don't expect anyone to live at surely couldn't be a meeting point at all.... He literally says that he gave them the power. It doesn't matter how accurate the 'fairy tale' part is when the original person is flat out saying it.
It took Salem as Oz together to get out of the tower and they both killed each other and the kids when they fought. Oz took a heavy blow before getting toasted while Salem got regenerated from the god of lights curse on her.
Your kids can do magic while you and your wife are seen as gods by the people. Quite a lot of 'problems' sticking out with that.
Pretty sure if 'power' was robbed it would be Salems and even then people have been having kids that could wield magic long before Salem and Oz were even alive. No reason for that to change at all.
Grimm are made by the god of darkness, magic is a gift by the god of darkness, logically grimm should be able to take magic by the god of darkness.

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M1STER_H

5y↑1

I have to say, to me this was the best episode of the entire series! Such a well crafted story done in such a smooth way! So fantastic that I had to see your reaction as well! Big fan!

iiJxssica

4y↑5

When you realise the whole rwby plot was started by ozpin trying to get custody of his kids

Tammy L. Faulkner

5y↑2

I'm on Ozpins side... He had more than enough reason to hide all this and I feel like everyone got way too angry @ for not much of a reason. He went through a LOT and they should have understood him a little better.

Kirklan Yoshinaga

5y↑1

Damn, 26 minutes passed by quickly. I was so engrossed by the episode. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks RWBY for a great episode! 😃😃👍

noah gresser

5y↑202

I find it really cool how Salem has Linear immortality like an Olympic god while Ozpin has Cyclical immortality like an Chthonic god.

Declan Olivetti

5y↑1

thebeav PercabethFTW

Oh shit! Talk about duality

Isaiah Wilson

Makes me wonder just how affected she was by the simple act of existing whilst every human died around her like fruit flies. Even before her Grimm fate, she'd have probably gotten good and desensitized to suffering, death and killing.

RECJr

5y↑8

Yes.

thebeav PercabethFTW

5y↑2

But, can Chthonic gods age? Because, while Salem stays young and can't be killed permanently, like Olympic gods, Ozpin still ages in each of his reincarnations.

Remnant Ryku

5y↑1

Watching this was so good! Now we get to see your reaction, so we can all nerd out over RWBY lore!

Artgeek118

5y↑1

WOOHOO!!!! I am thrilled to see your reaction on this one so i’m watching on my tv now. 😁 if i freaked and screamed my head off this is gonna be AMAZING.

William abel

5y↑1

26:00 I always heard that as “show the gods and deities, why they keep the people on their knees” which makes sense considering Salem’s hatred of the gods and the fact that she raised a rebellion against them.

Arcadius 256

5y↑6

As people have said, the gods coming back to Salem's perfect world would either lead to them destroying humanity again, more destruction for her, or so she can have another chance at them.

Dragon’s Touch

5y↑1

Arcadius 256 I kinda want the gods to come back, condemn humanity, only to be verbally beaten down by the crew who forces them to realize this is mostly their fault

SkarmGamer

I love coming back and watching you react to this episode. Gets me hype every time. Can’t wait for the second half of the current volume to come out 😩

R.A.O.C.

5y↑1

I actually have to agree with this entire assessment in the reaction. Very impressed with the storytelling I hope that's of character

Josh K

5y↑1

I've been waiting for this reaction! So much has been revealed!

Demaunix

5y↑93

RWBY Review Gods
God of Light: MurderofBirds
God of Darkness: Vexed Viewer

kelan baron

5y↑4

wait, so MurderofBirds is a hypocrite and a jerk?

MurderofBirds

5y↑24

Demaunix Animations Vexxed is my boy! I love his videos.

Liam Catterson

5y↑10

ARNOLD FREAKING OUT. A BLESSING <3

Andrew Senecal

5y↑1

Hey Liam! Enjoyed your reaction to!

ᎬᎠᎠᏆᎬᎷᎾNᏚᎢᎬᎡ ᏩᎾNᏃᎪᏞᎬᏃ

5y↑1

Love your videos! Happy early thanksgiving and thank you for everything you’ve done. Hope you have good day, take care! :3

Yvette Szentesi

5y↑10

26:25 - I wonder if it is a concidence that one of the four children has a noticeable darker
skin color and an "Emerald" color scheme to her dress than the others.

Suspicions (and potential Maiden conspiracies) abound. :)

XiaoRina

5y↑1

Arnolds Moon reactions are my favorite this Volume so far! :D His reaction to the moon breaking in the intro and now here is the best thing ever! xD

ApatheticDeity

5y↑3

Just my theory, but I think that "Dust" is made out of the previous humans magic power because when the "God Of Destruction" killed the humans, they turned into dust. So technically they are using the old dead human race to perform magic because the new human race can no longer do so.

Dragon’s Touch

PhantomWarp that is horrifying

ithpally

5y↑1

This episode left me feeling exhausted. So many questions finally answered. I need a drink.

Shade Keigar Blacksky

5y↑9

17:01
Reminds me of a certain antagonist who snapped his fingers while wearing a beautiful steel glove....

Khan Steadman

4y↑2

Golden

BigBruthaH

5y↑29

"We are creating beings with the gift of CHOICE, the ability to choose their own path. But only the choices and path WE want"..........anyone else see a problem here???
Jeez these two gods are pettier than the Olympians.

Flamenami

They have choice, and consequences for their choices.

g b

3y↑3

@ARKNet9000 I agree. People try to give the gods the moral compass of a human. They are gods you can't judge their actions as you would for a human.

ARKNet9000

3y↑4

The Gift of Choice i.e Free Will does not exclude you from the consequences of the choices you make. Humanity decided to attack the Gods out of their own free will and paid the price for it. This is after all, just an experiment for the Gods.

QuantumNightmare

5y↑12

BigBruthaH Not to mention “Hey, this naïve woman who’s blinded by grief and love played a trick on us. Guess we should make it so she can never be with her true love ever again, that’s fair right? Wait.... why is she waging war on us?”

George The Friend

5y↑7

Take a shot every time Murder says God.

crushcommando

5y↑63

(This is quite long so i tried to break it into paragraphs for easier reading, wanted to get all my thoughts out. If you're reading this Arnold, hi!)

In all honesty this is the God's fault, now not to say they technically weren't justified in punishment but they took it too far. Honestly I want the gods to return and get a verbal beat down by someone (maybe even Salem) on their hypocrisy. How can the god of light truly understand Salem's pain? What have they ever lost? His brother is immortal, they have the power of creation, they have no idea what it's like to lose something or someone dear to them they can't just replace, at most they have sympathy not empathy. I would call them out that their so called perfection is their flaw, they judged Salem as if they were machines and not living beings. She was in pain they could never comprehend and enraged for reasons they'd never truly understand, they simply weren't human enough. I would also point out the hypocrisy of the god of light, the cycle of life and death can't be broken but you give a woman immortality (thus ignoring the cycle) and giving a man full sentient reincarnation (thus bypassing the cycle) for his own selfish reasons (the cause of which is literally his fault but he blames his brother when talking to Ozma).

They gave a grieving woman in pain a harsh punishment and didn't seem to understand why she reacted the way she did, these aren't toys or machines, they're people. Why does the scorpion sting the frog? Because it is in its nature; they may have created humanity but they didn't understand it, i'd argue they were where Salem is now but simply had more power to rule with. In fact it is their fault humanity turned against them, if they hadn't made Salem immortal she wouldn't have united the kingdoms against them and humanity would've remained as is; yet they refused to acknowledge their own failings and passed it on to someone else. Ironically killing Salem was the merciful option and would've bypassed literally all of these problems, sure shows the infinite wisdom of gods.

What they did to Salem was monstrous, and as such they created a monster. Allow me to end this with a question, who is more monstrous? The monster? or the monster that created it?

ARKNet9000

3y↑1

While I agree that The Gods are dicks, that is because we are judging them by our own standards and morality. The Gods are incredibly powerful. They can manipulate space and (presumably) time freely. They are immortal. So they don’t have the same sense of morality or way of thinking like humans do. And I don’t think they ever claimed to be perfect. The very fact that Remnant is an experiment to them, they are also learning as well.

Why Hello There

4y↑1

Dragon’s Touch

5y↑2

Brandon Overton I vote Jaune or Ruby give the verbal beat down!

Taylan Ertan

5y↑3

@Adrianna More and more people would just come to the Gods to ask the same thing and a next Salem might be created when they are rejected. It would open an unending demand.

Adrianna

5y↑4

@Cynical Ducky Well, I mean humans are selfish by nature. Well naturally have all of our decisions being based off what we deem are good for us and others, and Salem did just that. Now, of course let's say she went to the god of darkness first and got Ozma back. How would the story change?

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IndieMovie 4 Life

5y↑1

When the God of Light told Darkness he didn't come to control him, but that "the same could not be said for [Salem]", I thought he was saying that he came to control Salem, but actually Salem came to control the God of Darkness by asking him to resurrect Ozma and go against his and his brother's agreement.

Wolfeson28

5y↑1

30:05 "All that time spent spying for Ozpin and you still have no idea what you're dealing with. There IS no beating Salem!" - Raven, v5e11

And there it is. I think we've finally learned what drove Raven to abandon Ozpin and everyone else close to her (I think certain characters also made this connection, based on their reactions in ep 4). This also sheds some new light on Raven's subsequent line to Ruby "You sound just like your mother", after Ruby tries to convince her she's wrong.

Sean Brannan

5y↑165

I sure hope Arnold watches this twice bc there’s no way he’s gonna be able to take all the info without screaming over half of it

Michael Price

5y↑1

He always rewatches everything he reacts to afterwards. If he sat there listening quietly to the video his reactions would be boring to watch

Steven Heymann

5y↑1

Watching Murder get super excited while watching this chapter and I'm over here like "Dude, relax. It's been 30 seconds . We're not even at the good shit yet. Seriously though, this chapter did a good job giving us information without retconning what we were told in Vol. 1, Chap. 1. Kudos to RT.

BRUCE

5y↑4

@MurderofBirds - You've still got the best reactions...
I believe Salem wants to unite the relics so she can finally die when the Gods judges us, becuase they would most assuredly destroy the world

BRUCE

5y↑1

@Dragon’s Touch Agreed!
If they do return I hope they (The Gods) see the error that they themselves made by giving Salem immortality.
And whatever else they do, I hope that they decide not only to NOT JUDGE US, but to let Humanity rule itself and not stick around.
.
There are so many other "WHAT IF's", I couldn't even start to list them

Dragon’s Touch

5y↑1

BRUCE I wouldn’t mind if we got to that point, only for one of the gang to call them out since this is mostly their fault and say they have no right to judge humanity as they don’t understand what it means to loose someone

Moonmoon

3y↑1

rewatching this part of volume 6 the heaviest volumne yet, you start to realized Ozpin is human when he just want to rest and forget it all before while salem is not.

y0u_called

I always love to come back to this video every now and then, his reactions are so energetic.

T-Money Tiger

To me your best reaction ever. It was all the same I had. Especially when Jinn said you can't. Your reaction then was exactly mine as well. Kmsl. Thanks you for your work

Strange Historian

THIS WAS A WHOLE ASS MOOD FOR THE EPISODE THANK U FOR BEING THE BEST REACTOR (imho love your channel)

Rat Boy

3y↑3

"I'm afraid a tragedy has befallen your home at the hands of my brother" -The god of light
When I say bull, you say shit. BULL_____! BULL_____!

Piemur1

5y↑1

An important line: "The hearts of man are easily swayed." This applies to Salem herself, despite her own manipulations and exploitation of said line. Her own heart had been swayed to the point of thinking them as above the gods, as being the new gods themselves. Even Ozma himself was swayed, but in his second incarnation, when his reflection said to himself "What are we doing?" brought him back. Brought back his morality and honor. Brought back the man that had initially freed Salem from the tower not to court her, but to resolve an injustice.

However, as much as you'd been saying that this whole story should have been kept private to Ozpin, it allows Ruby and the team to understand. Understanding is something that helps everyone, and I believe in the end it should be understanding that redeems Salem. She doesn't understand the cycle of life and death and the concept of balance. She doesn't understand selflessness. She doesn't understand that she is responsible for everything that she did that ruined the world and left it a mere Remnant. She doesn't understand that if she continues her path, she will again be responsible for the complete destruction of the world.

On another note, I believe the gods made the largest mistake, however. They THEMSELVES skewed the balance by making her immortal. There's no justification for that. As stated, it just made her a prisoner, unable to be with her beloved, and unable to end her suffering. I believe the WORST thing that can EVER happen to anyone, is being the recipient of the concept of immortality. As in true immortality. When you outlive your loved ones and watch them die, and you are forced to continue to exist? When the world is dead and nothing is left, and you are forced to continue to exist? When the sun goes nova and there isn't even a world anymore, and you are forced to continue to exist? When even Time itself dies, and you are forced to continue to exist? That is one of the most chilling thoughts, and a power I wouldn't wish on the foulest being in the universe.

Ra'Sham Dickson

5y↑57

One thing I think that is important to remember about Salem and her progression into the dark witch, is that she came from what was an emotionally abusive background. In fact, that was all she knew until Ozma. The gods gave her harsh punishments, but the dramatic irony is that we the viewers knew of Salem's origin, while the gods simply saw her as another heartbroken lover. To learn the value and importance of life and death wouldn't have been that difficult a task for someone else. But it was assigned to someone whose life was rather lifeless...whose life would only gain and lose value in the mortality of a man. Whose life more than likely normalized mental/emotional abuse. And that's what is probably the biggest tragedy out of all of this.

DalekSec02

Ra'Sham Dickson I agree, the gods, Oz & Salem were all correct in their views. Her life wasn’t fair, especially losing Oz so soon after freedom, but the gods were right about the balance. (Yet If they took the time to see what Salem’s past was, they’d have not tortured her or unfairly wipe out humanity.)

AzureHarume

Was waiting for your reaction and I freaking loved it XD.

But interesting, you also intercepted Jinn(?)’s words as only Ozma can’t defeat Salem, but someone else can. He specifically asked wether or not if HE can defeat it and Jinn, doing her job as the relic of knowledge, intercepted it that way and answered. So there could be multiple ways to see this. Someone else (Maybe Ruby) has the power to stop Salem or they can do all so it as a team. As for the other relics, they seem to be in each kingdom’s academies’ vault but where is the sword of destruction? Oz said that it was in a safe place but where could it be? *Disclaimer:I’m going to say this now, the theory I’m going to be reposting here isn’t originally mine.It’s a RWBY amino user’s theory and I simply want to share it so to see how you guys would view it. I might also be rephrasing somethings.*

The theory is that, maybe Oz put the sword in someplace safe, someplace where it may be forgotten and never dared to enter ever again. The god of light’s domain. Now this is where Summer might have a role. You know how at the beginning, they said that Summer disappeared one day on a mission and never came back? Yup. This user also theorized that maybe the god of light’s domain might’ve had an archangel or something that protected the place in his absence. That archangel might’ve had kids and those kids may be the origins of the silver eyed warriors that can counter the god of darkness’ creatures of Grimm. Now back to Summer’s mission. Oz might’ve sent Summer to the god of light’s domain with the sword of destruction, so that she could keep it safe and Salem wouldn’t expect it. Since Summer is a silver eyed warrior, she can easily pass the barrier into the god of light’s domain because she is the descendent of said archangel. How did she stay alive so long? The god of light’s fountain of life gave Salem immortality, so why not also give Summer that ability. Sacrifices were made, and Summer’s sacrifice was being away from her family, her friends, the people she loved in her life, and Ruby. So if Ruby and the others decides to go to that domain, she might meet Summer. Now Oz might believe that the sword of destruction is needed to defeat Salem but what if the fountain’s water is all we need? Dark balances Light and Light balances Darkness. Can’t we just give Salem that water from the light fountain again and undo her corruption from the pool of Grimm?

Mads Tutorials

5y↑25

Ozma is in the wizard of Oz series as the princess of Oz and is forever immortal

Joanes Ithurralde

5y↑2

I don't think that Jinn meant that Salem is unstoppable. Ozma's question was about destroying her but the gods made sure that wouldn't be when they cursed her. But nothing says she can't be sealed like the relics were.

Brandon Mercer

5y↑1

I was watching this episode like 'Arnold, you son of a gun, did you, at 4 in the morning, while drinking red bull, predict this with 100% accuracy?'
Then I finished the episode like 'eh, he got some of it'
Also, 'Sacrifice' makes a lot more sense now.

Dragster9127

5y↑135

All because Ozma wasn’t getting enough Vitamin C.

E. V

5y↑8

Because the Gods of Remnant also made mosquitos.
Because healing magic apparently didn't exist in pre-Remnant Remnant.
Because Ozma didn't have free healthcare.

Various reasons, really.

Derwin Gamer

5y↑9

Dragster9127 Salem and Ozpin’s cursed reminds me of Meliodas and Elizabeth’s cursed

Jack Acebedo

5y↑1

I remember I watched this at work the day it came out, and when I was driving home that night, I hit shuffle of my music library and the first song was "Past Lives" by Børns, and it made me chuckle.

Meldy Luova

Man i deeply love your reaction and your vibes, i remember looking at your videos when i was really bad in my life, thank you for everything i can't even explain how a simple reaction to my favorite show makes me feel like this but im pretty sure you can understand. Thank you. Can't wait to look your reaction on volume 9

Mitra Shailendra

5y↑1

You know, if they bothered spending time practicing medicine instead of magic, none of this would have ever happened.

The Salem can't be destroyed is an immortality thing. You need the power of destruction to destroy her . For example, Goku can't kill her even if he blows up the universe. But even a tiny bit of the powers of the gods will end her.

astrothsknot

My God, your reactions are utterly adorable.

parker maisterra

5y↑363

Never before have I been more tempted to sign up for patreon.

Arch _

parker maisterra my self restraint is the opposite of my wallet, no money will of iron, money well I’ll cave in instantly

Kitti Kat

You can watch it for free on Daily motion 🤫

Fatima Barrera

I did for 5 dollars but then realized he only gave out the reaction for rwby at 10 and I need to eat so :((

Matthew Rents

5y↑1

@Entropy is Law You still have to have the $5 for RT FIRST, he doesn't include the video in these reactions until they are public

C2HGaming

@Entropy is Law 10$ Most other reactions of his are 5$ But RWBY is a bit special

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Canny Weng

This volume is seriously blowing my mind! So much information! This is only 3 chapters and now lots of our questions have been answered and explained! We now know how Salem turned evil and why...we know Ozpins and Salem's past! We know what the world was like before! We know that magic existed before! We know why Ozpin and Salem are against each other! This is absolutely AMAZING!!! But still, we have many questions left to answer and I'm starting to think about the end...how Jinn said that Ozpin can't defeat Salem...Im starting to think that maybe she meant that he can't but a silvered eyed warrior like Ruby can...what if Ozpin had Summer try to defeat Salem? Is that how Summer died? Also...If any of you guys remember...in Volume 2 where Yang was talking to Blake, Yang mentioned that Summer went on a mission and never returned! So thats one clue...And yes we also need to learn more about Summer! Thank you CRWBY and RoosterTeeth! And of course Murderofbirds! We love all of your work!

Marwinix

5y↑3

Dragon’s Touch

Marwin Höhne or the gods return, only to be verbally shot down by the crew since this is mostly their fault and say they have no right to judge humanity since they don’t know what it means to loose someone

Jonathan Scanapico

5y↑14

This reminds me of that Charlotte's Web song "MOTHER EARTH AND FATHER TIME".

Digital Adventurer

So loving your reactions to the volumes (present and past). But honestly the Gods didn't do anything wrong IMO it was all on Salem. True she got a really crap deal out of life, being imprisoned then watching the love of her life die, but seriously trying to mess with the Gods was bound to backfire. And it may not have been as clear at the start of her story but as you watch it progress she clearly is only interested in getting her way and blaming her misfortunes on everyone else. Seriously if she loved Ozma as much as she claimed why turn on him so completely when he started questioning what they were doing? Clearly she loved power and control more then him

Deanthony Potts

5y↑57

"We can't disrupt the balance and resurrect your love"

Gives Salem Immortality
Wipes out humanity
Gives her love Oz the ability to reincarnate

Ok.....um......quick quesh.....what exactly is the balance here?

chaosXpert

5y↑2

I don't think the gods were united in their decision. The God of Light completely blamed the God of Darkness for destroying humanity. But then he was like: "Yo Ozma, here's all the tools you need to reunite humanity and achieve harmony. We're gonna go give it a try with some alien squid species in another realm. Peace". The God of Darkness broke the moon as a reminder of Salem's mistakes because he's a dick.

Deanthony Potts

5y↑1

Eric Smith if she went to the god of darkness first there would been no mutual agreement to restore order. Because her scam was the only reason Dark brother cooled down lol

Eric Smith

5y↑4

As far as I can tell from what we've seen so far, the "balance" is just a set of rules to keep the gods from fighting each other again, and doesn't have any sort of universal importance.
So the god of light is kind of an asshole

Diaz Chatnoir

5y↑1

There is not balance because the god of light is a petty asshole that could just say: "you know, you can be with him when you die and if you want I may let you be reincarnated with Ozma till the end of time" but that way we wouldn't have RWBY today :P

Alicia Fraser

5y↑8

Well think about it, both humans are technically immortal while one bares the power of darkness, while the other bares the power of light.... and the gods leave. Technically, once the humans returned life became no different then it was before the eradication happened. A light god, and a dark god and humanity. The only difference now is the two gods are fighting one another.

Chaos Knight

5y↑1

@MurderofBirds I fucking love how joyful you are in these reactions. Poor Ozpin. It's gotta be pretty disorienting to die and then come back so many times in a few minutes time.

RWBY can be split into two parts. Before and after Revelations lol

James Nichols

5y↑2

Just pointing out oz's kids (well 4 outta 6 shown) had silver eyes.

Jay Clyde 9

I enjoy rooster teeths way of making rwby!!!! It come off short and brief at times, while having episodes wit longer runtime to really builds the story to exponential levels

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