In late 1994, MC Serch (of 3rd Bass fame) took his protégé Sabac Red and teamed him up with DJ Eclipse and Ill Bill, thereby creating the group known as Non Phixion. Within six months Goretex, a childhood friend of Ill Bill, had joined the crew after freestyling for MC Serch. MC Serch did not appear in Non Phixions first album "The Future Is Now". Non Phixion made two studio albums and a promotional tape named "The Past, The Present And The Future Is Now" that was released before their first album "The Future Is Now", all Non Phixion's work is highly regarded in the underground hip hop scene. Ill Bills brother Necro produced a lot of material for Non Phixion, including most of "The Past, The Present And The Future Is Now" and several other tracks from "The Green CD" and "The Future Is Now".
Circle of Tyrants was an underground hip hop group consisting of Necro, Ill BIll, Mr Hyde and Goretex. The group only released one album, named "The Circle of Tyrants" which was released in 2005 under Necro's Psycho-Logical-Records. Necro produced all tracks on this album. Though only releasing one album, these four members often collaborated at the same time on the members solo albums.
Founded in late 2005 with no intention to record an album, La Coka Nostra was more a loose collective of artists connected through Danny Boy than a group. Having taken time off from rap after the break-up of House of Pain, Danny Boy took to working in video production and fashion as well as mentoring other artists. He met Slaine in Boston and, impressed with his writing, brought him to L.A. to record some tracks. Eventually it turned into more of a group effort including the former members of House of Pain and Ill Bill, it was announced that Everlast would be leaving La Coka Nostra due to his daughter's medical issues.
Heavy Metal Kings is a group featuring veteran rappers Ill Bill (Non Phixion/La Coka Nostra) and Vinnie Paz (Jedi Mind Tricks/Army of the Pharaohs). In 2006, Ill Bill was featured on the single "Heavy Metal Kings" by hip hop duo Jedi Mind Tricks, released through Babygrande Records.
Ill Bill and Vinnie Paz have since combined forces to form a group of the same name, "Heavy Metal Kings," and record a full self-titled album to be released April 5, 2011 through Enemy Soil/Uncle Howie.
Heavy Metal Kings 2 was officially confirmed and recording in 2013. It was announced that the album would be in stores in 2014 however as of March 2015 has yet to be released.
Heavy Metal Kings VS DJ Muggs was posted to be in the works by an associated producer on 2011, to this date this album has had no more updates or information released. It is not known if this album is still in the works.
The Dialogue
Ill Bill Lyrics
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Lars: Hey yo Ill Bill – will you sign this for me?
I found it at Amoeba it's the Green CD
Bill: No doubt kid, what's your name?
Lars: It's MC Lars
Bill: Word, Howie Abrams is a mutual friend of ours
He played me your joint Lars: What'd you think of it?
Lars: Thanks, I like your last record a lot. Your lyrics are
Graphic, much like your brother Necro, is he psycho?
Bill: I don't know, it really depends though
He's Psychological, half psycho, half logical,
Half businessman, half put-them-in-the-hospital
Lars: Business and art, there's a very fine line
There's the person that you are
And the person when you rhyme
But the best MC's bring both intertwined
Bill: I agree, that's when the best of both worlds collide
When the realness pops off one time for your mind,
And your words cause the people in the crowd to riot
CHORUS
As many places I've been. As many people I've met
As many haters I've dissed. There's people that I respect
As many times as I've failed. As many times as I've won
As many lives as I touch. The dialogue has begun
Bill: I grew up on heavy metal and hip-hop
The energy was the same to me, it was insane to me
It made me want to rage against the machine
Pick up a guitar and scream into the mic like Run-DMC
Lars: Nine Inch Nails, Primus, “Weird Al,” and King Missile
Influenced me like a postmodern epistle
Geeked out on my Performa looping digital drums
Playing rock guitar in punk bands just for fun
Who's your favorite rapper? Bill: Rakim, G Rap and Kane
KRS, EPMD, NWA, Public Enemy, Shante and LL Cool J
I could keep naming MC's all day,
What type of metal stuff you listen to?
Lars: Old school Slayer CD's, Biohazard and
Bile were the bands for me
The first time that I ever heard Chuck D
Was the Anthrax CD, “Attack of the Killer B's”… chorus!
REPEAT CHORUS
Lars: So Bill, what's your take on censorship?
Politicians on a church/state fusion tip?
Bill: I speaks my mind while kids I went to high school with
Bleed on the sands of Kabul hit, it's bullshit,
Lars what you think of it?
Lars: Out in Iraq, a lack of dialogue
Between the people is whack!
Bill: In fact I speak militant like Black Panthers
These gas prices got my people
With seeds having to gank pampers
Lars: The answer is not plutocracy.
The answers is not hypocrisy,
The answers is true democracy
Bill: The answer is the dialogue constantly
REPEAT CHORUS
Lars: Hey yo Bill, we should do a track together
Bill: Word, word, let's do that
Lars: Wait, we just did
The lyrics to Ill Bill's "The Dialogue" reflect a conversation between Ill Bill and MC Lars that takes place backstage at a Madball show. They discuss their shared musical influences, their favorite MCs and metal bands, and the importance of balancing business with art. Throughout the song, they touch on heavier topics such as censorship, war, and democracy. They agree that the dialogue is essential and will continue even when they're no longer present. The chorus emphasizes the importance of human interaction and respecting each other's differences.
The conversation in the song is intriguing because it shows how two artists can find common ground despite their different backgrounds and styles of music. Ill Bill and MC Lars come from two different genres, but both understand the importance of the dialogue and the power of music to bring people together. The lyrics also reveal how music has influenced both artists and helped shape their worldview. They both recognize the need for realness and honesty in their lyrics and acknowledge the importance of balancing business with art.
Overall, "The Dialogue" is a song that celebrates music's positive influence on people's lives and the importance of human connection. It highlights the shared experiences that bring us together and encourages us to respect and appreciate each other's differences.
Line by Line Meaning
One night, backstage at Irving Plaza at a Madball show
The song starts with Ill Bill narrating a conversation that he had with Lars. They met at a Madball show, backstage.
Lars: Hey yo Ill Bill – will you sign this for me?
Lars asks Ill Bill to sign his Green CD which he found at Amoeba.
Bill: No doubt kid, what's your name?
Ill Bill agrees to sign Lars' CD and asks for his name.
Lars: It's MC Lars
Lars introduces himself to Ill Bill as MC Lars.
Bill: Word, Howie Abrams is a mutual friend of ours
He played me your joint
Ill Bill recalls that Howie Abrams, a mutual friend of both Ill Bill and Lars, played Ill Bill a song by Lars.
Lars: What'd you think of it?
Lars asks Ill Bill for his thoughts on the song that Howie played for him.
Bill: I think it's bugged out, it's hot
Ill Bill tells Lars that he enjoyed the song and found it unique and interesting.
Lars: Thanks, I like your last record a lot. Your lyrics are
Graphic, much like your brother Necro, is he psycho?
Lars compliments Ill Bill's lyrics and compares them to those of his brother Necro. He asks Ill Bill if Necro is crazy.
Bill: I don't know, it really depends though
He's Psychological, half psycho, half logical,
Half businessman, half put-them-in-the-hospital
Ill Bill responds that he doesn't know if his brother Necro is crazy, but he is a mix of being logical and being mentally unstable. He also mentions that Necro is half businessman and half violent.
Lars: Business and art, there's a very fine line
There's the person that you are
And the person when you rhyme
But the best MC's bring both intertwined
Lars comments on the delicate balance between business and art and how it can be difficult to maintain your true self as an artist. He believes that the best rappers bring both their true selves and their artistry together.
Bill: I agree, that's when the best of both worlds collide
When the realness pops off one time for your mind,
And your words cause the people in the crowd to riot
Ill Bill agrees with Lars and says that the best rappers are able to bring both their true selves and their artistry to their music which causes their audiences to go wild and connect with them.
CHORUS
As many places I've been. As many people I've met
As many haters I've dissed. There's people that I respect
As many times as I've failed. As many times as I've won
As many lives as I touch. The dialogue has begun
The chorus talks about the many experiences and people that both rappers have encountered throughout their careers, both good and bad, but despite this, the dialogue between them and with others is ongoing.
Bill: I grew up on heavy metal and hip-hop
The energy was the same to me, it was insane to me
It made me want to rage against the machine
Pick up a guitar and scream into the mic like Run-DMC
Ill Bill tells Lars that he grew up listening to both heavy metal and hip-hop and found that both genres had a similar energy that resonated with him. He was inspired to pick up a guitar and start making music.
Lars: Nine Inch Nails, Primus, “Weird Al,” and King Missile
Influenced me like a postmodern epistle
Geeked out on my Performa looping digital drums
Playing rock guitar in punk bands just for fun
Lars mentions some of his musical influences, including Nine Inch Nails, Primus, “Weird Al,” and King Missile. He also talks about how he experimented with creating music on his computer and playing guitar in punk bands for fun.
Bill: Rakim, G Rap and Kane
KRS, EPMD, NWA, Public Enemy, Shante and LL Cool J
I could keep naming MC's all day,
What type of metal stuff you listen to?
Ill Bill lists some of his favorite rappers, including Rakim, G Rap, KRS, EPMD, NWA, Public Enemy, Shante and LL Cool J. He asks Lars about his favorite heavy metal bands.
Lars: Old school Slayer CD's, Biohazard and
Bile were the bands for me
The first time that I ever heard Chuck D
Was the Anthrax CD, “Attack of the Killer B's”… chorus!
Lars tells Ill Bill that his favorite heavy metal bands include old school Slayer CDs, Biohazard and Bile. He also mentions that he first heard Chuck D on the Anthrax CD, “Attack of the Killer B's” and they repeat the chorus.
Bill: I speaks my mind while kids I went to high school with
Bleed on the sands of Kabul hit, it's bullshit,
Lars what you think of it?
Ill Bill talks about the ongoing war in Afghanistan and how he speaks his mind about it. He asks Lars for his opinion.
Lars: Out in Iraq, a lack of dialogue
Between the people is whack!
Lars makes a comment on the lack of communication between people in Iraq and how it needs to be improved.
Bill: In fact I speak militant like Black Panthers
These gas prices got my people
With seeds having to gank pampers
Ill Bill talks about his militant views like that of the Black Panthers and how the high gas prices are affecting people, even causing them to steal to provide for their children.
Lars: The answer is not plutocracy.
The answers is not hypocrisy,
The answers is true democracy
Bill: The answer is the dialogue constantly
Lars speaks about the flaws with plutocracy and hypocrisy in modern society and suggests true democracy as the solution. Ill Bill agrees and says that constant dialogue is the key to progress.
REPEAT CHORUS
The chorus repeats, emphasizing the ongoing nature of the dialogue between people, even in the face of adversity.
Lars: Hey yo Bill, we should do a track together
Bill: Word, word, let's do that
Lars: Wait, we just did
Lars suggests collaborating with Ill Bill and Ill Bill agrees, only to be reminded that they just collaborated on this very song.
Lyrics © TUNECORE INC, Universal Music Publishing Group, Spirit Music Group, Warner Chappell Music, Inc.
Written by: ANDREW R. NIELSEN, WILLIAM HICKS, Q. UNIQUE
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Brosuke
One of the best tracks on this album.
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Pucho Almighty A.K.A ThyLord666
Such an awesome song! #illBill #MCLars #RealHipHop #RapRock #RapMetal