Mobile Phone Army
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Recorded at Fresh Air Studios, Victoria BC, Canada
Tony Hebert: engineer and co-producer
Kevin Cryderman: guitar, vocals, co-producer
Rick May: bass guitar
Jason Deatherage: drums




Mobile Phone Army
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@ChaosmanOne

QUESTION 1. What measures, specifically, would you suggest to define the conservative position on social issues and provision of social services?

Let's see if that's even a coherent question. So, "What precise course of action would you take to describe the traditional political arrangement with regards to socially important debate topics and the distribution of government supplied public benefits?"

I guess this is coherent enough - in a nutshell, "What is the conservative stance on social issues and societal welfare?"

Let's see what the answers are:

Chris Alexander - "First of all I think it's a myth. I think it's false to say that conservatives have not been strong in supporting our social safety net; in helping all Canadians move forward with opportunities. We have to be able to afford these things. And when we go into deficit, or debt, over a long period of time, we immediately see the quality of services decline. My platform includes strong measures to end and eliminate homelessness and poverty in Canada. But it also would put us back in the drivers' seat as a leading G7 economy, creating jobs, becoming a center for youthful entrepreneurship, becoming a truly innovative economy that is affording a higher quality of social service for everyone. We also need to hold the provinces and territories to account. They deliver the health care system. They deliver many of the most important services on which Canadians depend; we need to see results, results at the front line for Canadians."

Absolute word salad. The guy shut his brain off and turned his mouth on. Carefully read through that response. Is there a cogent response there? Just plain no, in my opinion.

Kellie Leitch - "Well, on the economy I think we know what plan doesn't work. Justin Trudeau's. And we know that as conservatives, if we put forward a plan that's common sense, we have an opportunity to then take care of others. I put forward a 6 point plan to make sure that we can balance the budget, make sure that we get the waste out of government, capping government spending, making sure that the public sector salaries and benefits are actually in line with the private sector's as opposed to being inflated, and making sure that we're taking and removing taxes on taxes. If we get government spending under control, if we cap government spending, we have an opportunity for the private sector to flourish. And the best social policy is making sure every Canadian has a great job. I want every young Canadian to have a great job so they can take care of their families. We know when families in this country take care of themselves, they're exceptionally generous, they give back. And that's what my plan is. Thank you very much."

Not bad! Pretty coherent answer that mostly stayed on topic and relativity answered the question. Some of it is a bit "pie in the sky", in my opinion.

Andrew Saxton - "Thank you Tom. The best social program is a strong economy and jobs, especially for young Canadians. The unemployment rate amoungst young Canadians is double the national average. At the same time we're bringing in temperary foreign workers to fill jobs in Canada and thousands of jobs are going unfilled every year. We need to break down that historic barrier between the marketplace and the educators so that young Canadians are getting the skills necessary to get the jobs that are available in the marketplace. I lived in Switzerland. Switzerland has an apprenticeship program where the majority of young people, they don't go into university, they go straight into apprenticeship programs after high school. And I'm not just talking about trades, these are professions like banking, insurance and pharmaceuticals. As Prime Minister of Canada I will implement an apprenticeship program here in Canada so that young people will get the jobs that they want."

Okay. I guess. But it doesn't really answer the question of what the "conservative stance on societal welfare" is, does it? Another word salad that doesn't stick to the point, with a specific detail thrown in to cover the fact he doesn't have a clue what he's saying. Pretty poorly put, in my opinion.

Aaron O'Toole - "Thank you Tom and thank you press tonight. I think in the last election, friends, a lot of Canadians liked Justin Trudeau, but already they don't like what Justin Trudeau is doing to Canada and our economy. $100 billion in new debt. $30 billion deficits. More taxes on Canadians, on small business. A nationalized carbon tax and payroll taxes. That's leading to the Liberals' job crisis. Since we're here at the Manning Conference, a room full of conservatives that want ideas, go to my website. I've got a plan. First step, Generation Kickstart, allowing our young people out of college and university to have a 3 to 5 year tax exemption space of $100,000 to $200,000; particularly those that will go to the U.S. in high demand professions and skilled trades. The second plan, we're going to return to the Universal Child Care Benefit. The Liberal aproach is not universal and this approach will save money and let us help the most vulnerable with an update to that plan. And the end of the day, a job for mom and dad is what is needed. And that's what I'll bring."

Well, he eventually got to some very specific ideas that he personally has. Do they answer the question? No, not really, in my opinion.

Round 1 goes to Kellie Leitch!



@ChaosmanOne

30 second top up speeches:

Chris Alexander - "Well, I think there needs to be more. You know, I agree with a lot of what my colleagues said. But I think we need, as conservatives, a social agenda. We need to do everything to make sure Canada is a center of excellence for job creation. But we need to go beyond that. We need to fight homelessness with housing first and other strategies to get people off the street. We need to zero in on the issues of labor market participation, especially for women, and make sure that parental leave is longer, that supports are there, that daycare is more available."

A bunch of non-issues that are already very well in hand in Canada and very low priority, in my opinion. Poor response again.

Andrew Saxton - "Thank you Tom. The last conservative was able to balance the budget and increase transfers to the provinces. In fact, transfers to the provinces and health care increased by over 70% in that 10 year period. I was part of that finance team. I was the parliamentary secretary to Jim Flaherty. A number of my colleagues have bragged that they're going to balance the budget within 2 years of taking office in 2019, but not a single one of them has come forward with a detailed plan. Ladies and gentlemen, I have my detailed plan right here. It's on AndrewSaxton.ca. I will balance the budget by 2021. And I did the math."

Deflection from the question. This is off topic.

Aaron O'Toole - "Thank you Tom. I get worried when friends like Chris talk about an agenda of government. Really, when it comes to jobs and the wellbeing of families, the government often needs to get out of the way. We need the private sector to flourish. My natural resources plan that I will launch yesterday - actually Preston I mentioned your fathers' leadership on the oil sands in Alberta, making sure the early development had some key infrastructure spending. We need to do that smarter as a government. We need to lower the small business tax rate, which allowed us to compete during the depths of the global recession. We need a focus on jobs. That's my agenda."

All over the place. A bunch of non cohesive points that are mostly not on topic.

Kellie Leitch - "So, some of the candidates in this race have actually been endorsed by the Canadian Tax Payers Foundation. But 2 of the individuals on this stage did not want to endorse that plan. I guess my question for those 2 individuals, Chris and Aaron, is, "What's not common sense about reducing government waste?". What's not common sense about making sure we remove taxes on taxes? What's not common sense about balancing the budget? The Canadian Tax Payers Federation has a great plan. A number of us have endorsed it. That's what conservatives do. We support conservative policies."

A rebuttal to an attack not given. What is this!? It's a failed response.

Round 2 goes to Chris Alexander - but all get very low points here.

Chris Alexander - "Well, in fact, I have endorsed these plans and I do want us to return to a balance quickly. Within 2 years. But there is such thing as a social agenda that works for conservatives; that is a proud part of our recent heritage. It was Jim Flaherty that brought forward measures to reduce poverty and actually succeeded in doing that. And to increase support for seniors in Canada while balancing the budget, while growing the economy, while being rated the best Fianace Minister in the entire world. I am proud of that record and we need to build on it to win in 2019."

Not one complete thought there. This is word salad...again.

Aaron O'Toole - "Thanks Tom. Canadians want to see an authentic politition that has talked about the same issues their entire life in politics. I have, on job creation. And whether it's immigration, Kellie, whether it's small business support, whether it's the importance of pipelines, I've not just talked about this in the last few months, I've talked it since I've been in Ottawa. And you know what? On my website I actually have detailed plans on how I will deliver achievable, balance costed, plans. Canadians respect conservatives because we have plans for the future. Plans that are deliverable."

Okay. A bit thin, but there are some points here.

Andrew Saxton - "Tom, before the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver, we had a program called, "Own the Podium", which brought home more gold medals than ever before in Canadian history. We need to own the podium in industry and innovation. We need to own the podium in green technologies and the environment. We need to own the podium in hydro technology. I know a company that's building a hydroelectric dam in Tibet. You know, we need to have Canadian companies that are world leaders, in a number of different industries. I believe that hydroelectric, tidal energy is important, as well as energy conservation. And this is what I will do as Prime Minister of Canada. I will make sure that we own the podium on jobs and innovation."

Way off topic rambling with zero substance. Platitiudes. Failure.

Kellie Leitch - "The Trudeau plan is bigger government, more rules, more red tape, more money needed to pay for it all. Payroll taxes, income taxes and now carbon tax. I think we all know that if we cap government spending, if we reduce the burden on small businesses, we're actually going to be successful in this country. I want to make sure the government of Canada gets their hands out of both your pockets so that you can be successful."

Well at least it's cogent.

Round 3 goes to Aaron O'Toole by a hair.



@ChaosmanOne

QUESTION 2: When it comes to healthcare in Canada, would you offer more federal money to the provinces to deal with the population that is using more and more of our healthcare services?

No need to suss out the meaning of this question. Simply: More money for healthcare?

Aaron O'Toole - "Thanks Tom. The only candidate that's put out a deliverable plan to healthcare is myself. And the one candidate who is in this race, Dr. Dan Lindsey, has supported my plan and my candidacy. We cannot let the Canadian Health Act, or Canada Health Act, be frozen in time in 1984, becuase we're all getting poorer outcomes in our healthcare. And Minister Philpott, fighting will Premier Wall, trying to improve diagnostic imaging access in his province, is an example of failed leadership. We need to see more innovation. Universal access, which is what most Canadian want to see, but innovation. In fact, I'm not just going to incourage that, I'm going to unleash it. The William Osler Health Prize will incourage private and public institutions to make things better. Allowing universal access, but better access faster for all Canadians. And we shouldn't be scared if some of that is delivered by smart, effective, safe, private sector delivery. Being frozen in the 1980's is a failure of leadership and it will change under an O'Toole government."

Straight up didn't answer the question. Not even close.

Andrew Saxton - "A few years ago I rushed my mother to the emergency room at the local hospital and we were told to wait. We waited over 3 hours, and during that time I watched my mother have a stroke in the waiting room of that hospital. I don't want anybody else in this room to go through what I went through. But don't think it's getting better. We have a freight train coming down the tracks. And that freight train is the Baby Boom generation. As the Baby Boom generation ages, our health care costs are going to go up through the roof. We have to find a more efficient way of delivering health care services here in Canada so all Canadians can benefit. And that means also looking at the possibility of private delivery of health care services. I'm not talking about you having to pay for it. I'm talking about the government paying for private delivery of health care services. There are other models that work around the world. We need to learn from those models and implement those models. As Prime Minister of Canada I will make sure that Canada has a health care situation that works for all Canadians."

Didn't answer the question. Explained that costs will go up, but no indication if his plan would alot more funds to the health care systems of Canada.

Kellie Leitch - "So, as a physician and practicing pediatric surgeon, I have a bit of a unique perspective on this. I can tell you that anyone that talks to you about there being simple solutions and that you can show up in the emergency department with your Visa card to fix them, just simply doesn't understand the system. I do agree with Aaron O'Toole. We need innovation. And I've spent a significant portion of my professional career at the Ivey School of Business, focused on health innovation. What we do need to do is make sure that we innovate, and part of that can be driven through making sure that the transfers have a degree of accountability around them. For me, what I want to make sure happens, is that you and your family members get the quality care that you desire, and you don't have to pay more for it. We have an opportunity as Canadians to revolutionize healthcare. As conservatives with common sense ideas we can absolutely do that."

Almost answered the question? "...and you don't have to pay more for it." I'll take that as a "no" to the question.

Aaron O'Toole - "Thank you very much. Thank you Kellie for speaking positively on my plan. This is one area that I'd actually like to see more from you on. You talk about the not having the need for simple solutions. Use your experience to put out some ideas here, because I think this race, the great thing about having all of us in it, is the time to have some real ideas and a conservative approach to solving problems. Letting our system atrophy and fail is not leadership. And conservatives, historically, have shown leadership. So, Kellie, I hope and I work with you on it as part of my team to make sure that we put out ideas and explain them to Canadians."

Nothing.

Kellie Leitch - "Well Aaron, I've been publishing in this area, let's see, since 2002. You may have come forward with a plan from someone else just recently, but I'm published on this. The Health Innovation Center at the Ivey School of Business is actually top of its class internationally. It looks at innovative ways to make sure that we can deliver great healthcare to Canadians. Please. Feel free. Read anything I've published, becuase I've been ahead of the curve on making sure Canadians get great, quality care."

Still no answer.

Andrew Saxton - "Kellie looks at the health care problem from a doctors' point of view. I look at it from a patients point of view, and I'm sure many of you in the room also look at it from a patients point of view. I can tell you, throwing money at the problem is not the solution. For the 10 years that the conservatives were in government we increased health care by 6% a year, over 70% in the 10 years. And what we found is only half of that was being reinvested in health care. In fact the provinces were putting the other half in general revenue. So, throwing money at the problem is not the issue. We have to find more innovative and efficient ways of delivering health care here in Canada."

A quality "no" answer.

Chris Alexander - "Thanks Tom. I also disagree with Kellie. I think the problems are not too difficult for mere mortals to understand. I was embarrassed to be the member of the government that returned to balance in 2015 but at the same time as an Ontario Liberal government had succeeded in doubling the debt of Ontario. And what's the solution? It's accountability. I would not raise health care transfers to the provinces for any province or territory that does not have a credible plan to return to balance. That would be fiscally smart. And then we would work to make sure front line services were emphasized, that managment improved, and yes, we would make sure, we would alter the Canada Health Act to incentivize every health care program in the country to procure goods and services from Canadian start-ups, from Canadian companies, when it makes sense."

This is a non answer that looks like an answer. He says he wouldn't increase funding unless there is "a credible plan to return to balance." So, would he or wouldn't he?

Aaron O'Toole - "Well my friend Andrew is thinking about using his rebuttal, I'm going to use my rebuttal, because, Kellie, whether it's health care innovation, any of these things, immigration. This is a time to put out more than just a few statements. Let's have some ideas. Let's make sure that our members across the country can choose the direction we want to see party and the country go. So, if there's great papers from 10 years ago, put them out now. This is a race for our members to decide who can pull the team together and beat Justin Trudeau in 2019. There's ideas on my site, I invite you to check them out."

This isn't even a thought. These are all words, but they don't mean anything in the arrangement he put them forth. No answer here.

Andrew Saxton - "In order to fix the health care problem in Canada, we first have to win government in 2019. And in order to do that, we need to go back to the grass roots. We did not do that in 2015. We have to listen to our base once again and get close to our base. The last election campaign was an Ottawa centric campaign. It ignored the issues that were taking place in the provinces. We also have to do our job in reaching out to young Canadians. We did not get young Canadians en masse voting for us in the last election. We need to have social media strategy. The social media strategy in the last election was, "stay off social media", and we saw how that worked. We need to renew our party from the base up."

Not one single word about healthcare...remember, the question...about health care...and spending. Wow.

Chris Alexander - "I agree with Aaron. One of the solutions to our health care challenge is immigration. It is making sure we have a young enough workforce to be able to afford the aging population, the retired population, we already have. And so, I am the only candidate in this race with the courage to say that, if unemployment is declining, and if we have 70% or more economic immigration, we should raise immigration levels. The way that we did over 10 years in government. The way that we did when we had the highest growth levels and the highest job creation in the G7, we will need it."



@ChaosmanOne

Chris Alexander - "I agree with Aaron. One of the solutions to our health care challenge is immigration. It is making sure we have a young enough workforce to be able to afford the aging population, the retired population, we already have. And so, I am the only candidate in this race with the courage to say that, if unemployment is declining, and if we have 70% or more economic immigration, we should raise immigration levels. The way that we did over 10 years in government. The way that we did when we had the highest growth levels and the highest job creation in the G7, we will need it."

Gobbledegook again. Is this guy okay?

Kellie Leitch - "I've been very clear with a common sense plan on immigration. I'm pretty confident people know what it is. I think that every immigrant, refugee and visitor coming to Canada, should have a face to face interview. And not only should they understand who we are as Canadians and what our values are, they should also agree to them. So, I have a plan. No one else in this race does. But I'm quite happy to continue to talk about it. Thank you very much."

Did she just have a stroke? WOW!

Chris Alexander - "Well, health care matter for Canadians. Poverty, homelessness and social challenges matter for Canadians. Mental health matters for Canadians. We showed leadership on these issues as a government over 10 years, particularly in these last few years on mental health. We need to continue to show that leadership. The provinces and territories are asking for it. And it goes to our values as an open and caring country. We will not be an open and caring country if we have interviews for every visitor who wants to come from Romania."

Well, at least he said health care...sigh.

Round 4 goes to Andrew Saxton, the only person to actually answer the question posed.



@LSusin

Just some of my thoughts from the 1st 3/4 of watching...

Those of us in our 30's, 40's, 50's + need good paying Jobs too, We have been educated, We have been paying Taxes (for many years), We are the Voters and as it is Right know many of us will NOT be able to afford to Retire!!! Stop giving breaks to company's that mostly hire part time employee's and pay poverty line wages ( this is mostly a provincial problem that needs to be fixed ). We need to control Government Waste & Spending! Right - Provinces need accountability before they are given any more money towards health care - Ontario Liberal government is a great reason why this needs to happen!

Andrew Scheer - made a good point regarding us getting oil from foreign sources.
I didn't know that the Aboriginals were trying to put in a pipeline.
I like Deepak, he makes a few good points. Used substanable development :)

Chong - We produce a minuscule of emissions - and you think we can cut further? I disagree with him!

Yes, Revenue neutral carbon tax is BS!!
Good one Kevin O'Leary

Anyway, still not sure who will get my Vote...



All comments from YouTube:

@bobbyp3212

Bernier got a vote from me for his last statement. As a social conservative it is important to have open debate on tough views and not be shut out of a political party and forced to vote against conscience as Trudeau has mandated. Bernier has the intelligence, Conservative policies, and libertarian views on social issues and charisma to take on Trudeau.

@sinwhole82

"We need to convince Canadians and First Nations" -Andrew Scheer

@mycattitude

And your point is? You realize that most Indians and Inuit don't consider themselves Canadian, and THEY make the distinction.

@jessekytwayhat3152

mycattitude I'm Native. What I think needs to happen, is trust has to be established between the government and Native people. This is the key to having Native people wanting to step away from the fringes. It doesn't help, when people abuse their authority at the expense of Native people. I was beaten by the police a few months ago, I was recording my friend getting arrested. Me and my friend weren't doing anything wrong, but they beat me anyway. Since that time, I have become an anarchist. My friend is a white guy, and he finds that kind of behavior as sketchy as I do, so I believe that what had happened to me wasn't right. If the conservatives want the Native vote, they have to address those kinds of issues. IF. Native people only make up 4.17 percent of the population, so I believe either party can get by without the Native vote. I used to consider myself a Canadian, because it felt like the world was becoming a better place for me. I believe that there's a fascist and socialist movement on the rise in the world, and I consider myself unaffiliated to the left or the right of the political spectrum. This could become a problem for now t just you, but me as well (regardless of how I vote). I just want to shed some light on that issue for you. I believe that society is on the verge of collapse, and that's not a good thing. It's not something I'm hoping for, it's something that bothers me a great deal. That's why I choose to express my opinion to whoever. Maybe someone can figure this problem I've been working on for while now.

@joncoupland7945

Best part of the whole thing is that i could fast forward through the CBC personalities.

@MaryLopez-bv7ks

I've watched all the English debates ( I'm not that fluent with French... same with some canidate I know)...
After all of those, these are my top 5 canidates.
1. Deepak Obhrai
2. Andrew Scheer
3. Rick Peterson
4. Kevin O' Leary
5. Rona Ambrose

@stevewilliams1590

You put "private" and "health care" in the same sentence, you don't win a Canadian election. Ask Stockwell Day.

@MaryLopez-bv7ks

Steve Williams Love this comment.

@stevewilliams1590

Tide Better Than Clorox
Thanks, although I was only stating a basic "law" of Canadian politics. Don;t give me too much credit.:-)

@oneunknownday

I feel like Deepak is just running for fun.

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