The Rose
LeAnn Rimes Lyrics


Some say love, it is a river
That drowns the tender reed
Some say love, it is a razor
That leaves your soul to bleed

Some say love, it is a hunger
An endless, aching need
I say love, it is a flower
And you, its only seed
It's the heart afraid of breaking
That never learns to dance
It's the dream afraid of waking
That never takes the chance

It's the one who won't be taken
Who cannot seem to give
And the soul afraid of dying
That never learns to live

And the night has been too lonely
And the road has been too long
And you think that love is only
For the lucky and the strong

Just remember in the winter
Far beneath the bitter snow
Lies the seed that with the sun's love
In the spring, becomes a rose

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Written by: AMANDA MCBROOM

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c5gcd

@F e r m i n Romero de Torres I think that in this debate, like so many others, context is everything.

In my daily Zoom catch-up with my mother yesterday I mentioned we had a couple of friends coming round for coffee. They have been up looking after one of their mothers for a week and are going back home. They also happen to by gay, but that’s irrelevant so it never came up. Another friend is active in the LGBT group of a large voluntary organisation we are both part of. If he’s discussing that group, as opposed to the main work of the organisation, then yes, his sexuality is relevant. Otherwise it’s not, and doesn’t come up.

In this case we have a choir identifying itself specifically as gay, singing a song to highlight the number of young gay people who take their own lives. In that context it is absolutely relevant for Nelson to mention that he is not gay. For Heather then to state that “it was most important to him that we knew that” and accuse him of homophobia is frankly offensive. How dare she ascribe motives to him without even knowing him? He is highlighting that the message is not limited to the gay community but resonates with those beyond it. In that context, the fact that he is not gay is entirely relevant as it demonstrates the point.

The change in how the word homophobia is applied is indeed interesting, and raises two issues. The first is how it got widened to refer to everything from full blown physical assault to what you describe as unconscious non-violent homophobic behaviour in small details. I agree with you that the latter exists and should be addressed, but to equate it with violent hatred is simply wrong, they are two completely different mindsets. It really needs a separate word. I fully believe Heather was referring to the latter and not really having a go at Nelson in the way it came across, but inappropriate phraseology works both ways. If you are prepared to accuse people of not understanding why certain words or phrases are inappropriate, you have to understand also why the person you are addressing may in turn find the seemingly casual use of words like homophobic inappropriate and offensive.

Which brings me to my final (!) point. If the gay community now uses the word homophobia in wider terms, how the hell are the rest of us supposed to know? When “gay” replaced “homosexual” in common use it was a deliberate decision to try to remove stigma when discussing the issues. It took a while but I think succeeded largely because it was widely used, easy to remember and everyone knew what it meant. But if you change the definition of a word already in use, how do you let people know? Other than accusing them when they inadvertently transgress your new rules, which is what happened here.

So no, I'm sorry, I don’t agree with Heather on this one. I understand what she is saying, and in different circumstances may have agreed, but I think that here she is guilty, ironically, of not realising the offence her choice of words has caused!



F e r m i n Romero de Torres

​@c5gcd It's a good explanation and it makes me feel a bit confused. But I don't know how we can achieve equality and normality if we feel the need to brand the chorus as a gay men's chorus as much as clarify our sexuality.
I find it unnecessary to proclaim our sexual orientation, nor our religious interests in order to say we liked a song. I don't see how doing so would help normalise diversity.
We live in a time of change in which it is taking too long to move forward.
I liked your explanation and would have preferred Nelson Ortas' applause without clarifying that he is not gay, although he could be bisexual, transgender, transsexual, transgender, asexual and could even be a heterosexual person, etc.
When George Weinberg created the term "homophobia" he commented on its meaning: "[...] a fear of homosexuals which seemed to be associated with a fear of contagion, a fear of reducing the things one fought for - home and family. It was a religious fear and it had led to great brutality as fear always does".
It is clear that his term has become obsolete. No longer all the people fight for a family or even a house. Nor is there as much religious power, nor are priests by far the purest people on earth.
However, Professor David A.F. Haaga says that contemporary usage includes "a wide range of negative emotions, attitudes and behaviours toward homosexual people".
I believe that there is unconscious non-violent homophobic behaviour in small details, such as the way we use language, looks, proclaiming our unsolicited approval for gay people, and so on. Everyday behaviours that do not involve violence. Small things that we can improve for the benefit of all of us.
I think Heather Rowe is also somewhat right in what she says.



All comments from YouTube:

Benjamen Davis

That chair with the rose had me crying. I didn’t see a rose I saw every LGBTQ+ child who couldn’t be themselves, sitting there smiling next to her. Love, it’s that simple. Y’all means all ❤️

Charlie Sydnor

AMEN & AMEN

Tony Kulikovsky

👍👏👏👏

Angela Mcconnell

❤️❤️👍🙏😇

Dennis Clouse

I have said it before and I will say it again, this lady can sing anything. A truly gifted performer.

ZATennisFan

She has a once in a generation voice and she has respected the gift

SireKris

I agree and she is also very humble 🙏🏻☺️💞

Maja Dukan

Beautiful👍❤️

Bernt Inge Laupstad

Agre..♥️♥️♥️

Michael Self

Yes.

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