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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

Stick Man

1y↑19

I got into Kpop in the year 2011 when I saw a cameo of Jiyeon in Miss Ripley. I immediately searched her up because she was so beautiful and when I found out that she was in a girl group and the group itself and the songs that they've been releasing were such a massive hit, I immediately stanned them.

I remember when that scandal happened I was so mad at Hwayoung, I defended T-ara in online wars and even got threatened hahahahah (Never regreted defending them)

T-ARA was the reason why I got into kpop. I was never around in their early days but I was there in the peak of their careers. I was so damn proud of what they had managed to achieve and for Hwayoung to accuse them of bullying was so bullshit.

Those were the fun days. Before the bullying scandal, I would engage in fandom wars. I made a lot of friends and also enemies. I found a lot of things about them that you wouldn't know just by searching it up online.

Whenever they do concerts, I would ugly cry because I couldn't attend it. I had no money I couldn't even buy merch because I was a still a student at that time.

When they won that music show for "What's My Name" and they cried, I also cried with them because finally, after so many years. All those blood, sweat and tears, they achieved something again that was taken from them.

Whenever I think about the bullying scandal, rage clouds my mind and I cuss Hwayoung in my head and outloud so much. If I could turn back the time, I would beat up the CEO for adding Hwayoung to the line-up.

Lolalin kit🌸

1y↑4

Can we all really fault hwayoung entirely ?

Yes she played a role , then so did t-Ara. T-ara brought their personal issues towards Hwayoung to Twitter “the internet” (given that they are a public figure forgetting everyone including their fans will see it ) they were bashing her on social media going against her which wasn’t a smart move thus making their selves seem obvious to the bullying scandal, so they pretty much jumped right into that one by making their issues PUBLIC , that was messy on their end. They should have kept their issues towards Hwayoung to them selves and had a private conversation/group discussion with her. they are both responsible.
.

If a group of 5 girls (minus qri) are targeting 1 girl on Twitter/ the internet then it’s going to be seen as bullying so in a way, t ara played a BIG ROLE in their own downfall

While I’m not making excuses for hwayoung I feel like both parties are at fault.

But this was a couple years ago, I hope Hwayoung, and t-Ara learned and reflected from this.

Lolalin kit🌸

@Jiji Pir definitely the agency not handling the issue when it escalated I blame their CEO he should’ve done damage control right then and there

Maybe Hwayoung had a rotten attitude but how do we know the girls weren’t mean to her first?

I’m not coddling t ara because they were being messy, I do empathize with them however in terms of their music career, they have been training for years to get were they were in their career and to have someone new and inexperienced in the industry can create a hindrance and i feel as a team they were against the idea of a new addition to the group and felt Hwayoung would drag them down and took their anger and aggression out on her, thus hwayoung having a bad attitude

Keep in mind im just going off a pure speculation we will never know what really happened but i do think there was some drama

All comments from YouTube:

Brianna Birckett

1y↑4.9K

I just think it’s weird that she nor her sister has never to this day made a formal apology about the whole situation especially after so much evidence of her being so terrible to other people, that truly says a lot about her character

sensoine

1y↑94

Why would you expect an apology from a liar

Brianna Birckett

1y↑162

@sensoine I’m not saying anybody should, but i said that cause it would show that she holds her self and her sister accountable for what happened

killerpunchline

1y↑24

Welcome to Gen2

Brianna Birckett

1y↑51

@killerpunchline that part.. we had it great but we had it rough as gen 2 fans

Mirajane xx

1y↑112

And the fact people still support her is weird

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Giselle Akgae

1y↑3.8K

This is why I was skeptical when Garam's bullying accusations happened. Knetziens are just horrible at finding real bullies and they all turn out to be innocent in the end.

andy john

1y↑252

😂kpop should make a long series drama itself. Garam case is totally chaotic. I wonder where the people claim that bully accusation.

tortawleeni

1y↑318

Exactly. Remember the same thing happened with AoA for an entire year when everyone thought AoA Jimin was a bully for a year and countless YouTube videos and other articles were made about their situation and in the end AoA Mina was just good at playing the victim card constantly. It’s really hard to tell unless you’re personally in their lives and even then people aren’t precisely sure. Fans and netizens need to approach bullying situations and accusations carefully, in the end it’s people’s livelihoods and dreams that get stripped away and it’s so disheartening to see considering we know how much kpop idols train to even debut. Also companies need to protect their artists more ( looking at CUBE here… pretty sure most of us miss Soojin).

Lesley Black Velvet

1y↑124

This is why in the K-Pop world, neutrality is a virtue.

andy john

1y↑25

This is the best movie I ever watch so far. It’s even better than any Holywood movie.

UR CUTE ♡

1y↑109

I stopped believing it when they said garam threw a potted play at someone head?? 😭 like be fr, she would’ve been behind bars for doing that

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KoKo242

1y↑2K

In hindsight, them slick dissing on Twitter was the dumbest move on their part. However CCM handled it ASTRONOMICALLY bad. I've never seen a group's discourse managed so horrendously

HorribleHarry

1y↑40

Cube. They failed Soojin and lost my fandom.

Endy J

1y↑42

well, lets give applause to BBC who are currently doing an even worse achievement

KoKo242

1y↑6

@HorribleHarry not even close

HorribleHarry

1y↑14

@KoKo242 Yes gidle didn’t almost disband, but I lost one of my top biases in all K-pop. (Almost the same for AOA Jimin.)
T-ara were my apex bias group (till Dreamcatcher came around) and this debacle almost ended my K-pop fandom.
Hopefully we’ll see the occasional comeback, and maybe EJ with her first album hair… a guy can dream…

Emerald White

1y↑17

I mean....she was literally the groups downfall and the other members put years of hard work into their success. I don't blame them for speaking out about how they felt.

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Melon

1y↑1.4K

They should've stopped adding members. They had a core group and what they were doing was working for them. What a waste and what a ruined career for those girls

Marc Sigoloff

1y↑118

Absolutely. They were a perfect group with six members.

Chimmy

1y↑75

Iirc the sisters father is some rich guy that had connections to put them in

Zachari Kurbah

1y↑73

The 6 members were fine only, the CEO is the one only at fault for adding members

Yorbelize

1y↑104

Their excuse of "we are adding new members so that the older members will work harder to prove themselves" was ridiculous. That statement alone showed how little they cared about the girls. T-ara suffered from horrible management. They could have been on par with SNSD, 2ne1 and Wonder Girls.

Jean Leon

1y↑30

@Yorbelize i think that's it. The company was adding up members to compete with SNSD.

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LiD0349

1y↑2.2K

1:29 I always love seeing when people do this. They tear up merch or product to boycott a brand/person/band but are too stupid to realise that they’ve already given their money towards that thing being boycotted

A A

1y↑96

Yesss hahaha. I never understood why they do that

Poised ^_^

1y↑6

😂😂💔

El Mayberry

1y↑88

right 😂
even if I found out something bad about my ults, I'd just sell my merch and albums if I wanted to get rid of it, instead of wasting my hard earned money by throwing out away, trashing it or worse

Anna's Addiction

1y↑21

I mean, even if it turns out it was "not that big of a deal" or even a bigger deal than people thought it was, I'd say destroying it only comes at your own cost, so personally I always try to get a few cents out of stuff "I'm over it" to bring it to 2nd hand online shops so people who might (still) want to have it can have it for lil money or I'me ven donating it to the one 2nd hand store offfline I don't get anything for unless space in my place =)

ᵃ

1y↑12

Right they’ve done that to so many artists or famous people like Melanie Martinez and Millie Bobby brown for no reason 💀

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Rosula_D

1y↑1.1K

T-ARA scandal is my villain origin story. It's been more than a decade and I'm still angry about this. I believe I'll never get over it. I'll be in my deathbed and still wish I could travel back in 2012 and prevent this from happening.

I don't think many people, even folks who were K-Pop fans back then, can fathom the magnitude of this scandal. I'm someone who cares about numbers so these facts have always stuck with me. T-ARA were the most popular group at that time, surpassing even the established groups from Big 3, they were standing at the very top and preparing to reach new heights. And everything was ruined because their disgusting CEO tried to play mind games with the members and allowed this damn sociopath in the group. If you want a "tragedy script" this is it.

esther cromwell

1y↑61

Dude, i remember arguing with hwayoung's fan about her being a snake and they basically told me to forget it because its all in the past and we're just jealous of her acting awards

Chouchou BebE

1y↑4

Right..TT

Ace of Emperor

1y↑28

yess the problem really from their CEO, trying to add more members so more fans will come... LoL , that why recently the group that lose a member wont add new one, because the member that added later usually will mess the current established members

Desiree Tacbas

1y↑18

I hated how the added member ruined everything they worked hard for since training days. Its easy for her to have attitude coz she was not around the beginning, the rough times.

Yuki James

1y↑29

T-ara were popular but they were never bigger than KARA, SNSD, WG, or 2NE1. They had a few hits and were a top group but people exaggerate their early position. It was more like they were a top group and had potential to be among the big 3 before the scandal

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Bianca Garcia

1y↑614

Sad fun fact: This scandal was the reason why idols were not allowed to have personal social media accounts until very reccently. Fans will look into any little thing online, especially things idols post themselves. You can even see with the Mina and Jimin AOA situation how things blew up from their social media posts and comments. It's really tragic

y kl

1y↑3

but bangtan had their twtr&yt accs in 2012
anyways, I just hoped t-ara is still peaking now and I hope they'll have their successful careers as well

jncmltfndm

1y↑19

@y kl that's different, bts dont have personal twt/yt accounts

Jiji Pir

@y kl they still survived the industry even after that scandal, they eat them up.

Emilia

1y↑7

@y kl bangtan never had personal twt/yt accounts tho (they all used the same one, which was also moderated by the company), they recently got their instas and those are the only public and personal social media accounts they ever had as idols

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Adisa Jakupovic

1y↑782

I experienced this whole dilemma back then and let me tell you it was a disaster. T-ARA went from extremely popular, enormous sales and even being strong competition for SNSD to the most hated girl group. And they still worked hard and released music and performed. I have always believed that they weren‘t at fault, but I also never thought that Hwayoung and her sister would ever go that far to ruin T-ARA. but this is why nowadays I am even more careful about what to believe in terms of bullying and rude behavior rumors. AND YOU SHOULD TOO. there have been cases that happened even in 4th generation where the evidence or statements were quite questionable and STILL the victims won in a way because they ruined someone’s career based on alleged things that can neither be confirmed nor denied. the fact that also many companies let their artists down and kick them out of their contracts to prevent a whole group from suffering a downfall like T-ARA. and I think this is exactly why, apart from the general public’s view on this matter, many idols have to have either a long hiatus or actually leave instead of the artist and company fighting against xyz in court.

Once you wheein You can’t wheeout

1y↑19

For real! I’m still upset they got ruined by a snake

K-Pop Rewind 4K 60FPS

1y↑8

Like SNSD's Jessica.

Pendragon

1y↑2

Same I will never forget this scandal ever gosh as a Queen myself from best birthday gift ever because of the released of Day by Day on my birthday to the birthday year I hated the most..

lunarsoulz

1y↑8

T-ARA and SNSD were the 2 popular girl groups I followed the most at the time. When T-ARA was struck with their scandal, they kept quiet for years. When SNSD was struck with their scandal, they also kept quiet for years. Even when the Fans turned their backs on T-ARA, SNSD was one of the few to stay friends with them and keep supporting them. They stayed close to each other, while everyone was calling them backstabbers, bullies, snakes, (sound familiar?) etc. Hwayoung wouldnt stop talking and got her Sister involved (sound familiar?). Eventually former Staff Members came forward and provided evidence that supported Hwayoung's was wrong (sound familiar?), and slowly Public perception turned, and the "victim" became the "antagonist" (sound familiar?). Even to this day, T-ARA has not talked about Hwayoung. Even when their names were cleared, they refused to talk about Hwayoung. SNSD has still not talked about Jessica. The safe way to defend yourself is to say nothing, and let the other party incriminate themselves. I hated seeing T-ARA and SNSD suffer, and it made me quit Kpop for years, up until recently.

2 Gens and many false bullying accusations later, its sad that Kpop Fans didnt learn their lesson and try to ruin Idol's careers.

Once you wheein You can’t wheeout

1y↑2

@K-Pop Rewind 4K 60FPS snsd didn’t kick her out. It was entirely SM

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Mÿ Łįttłė Pøńÿ – Mùłtîłäñgûågė

1y↑489

The fact that she got applauded for years along with her sister, while the other members were plagued for years to come. All those girls had to drop their acting gigs, lost huge popularities, and so much more, while Hwayoung got everything handed to her, and even today after no apology ever happening despite all the evidence from the former staff and even the former CEO, Hwayoung still gets acting gigs and has even appeared on many shows even after the bullying scandal was proven to be all created by Hwayoung and her sister. All these bullying scandals now, causing lineup changes, extreme hate and so much more despite the fact that 99% of them were innocent, yet Hwayoung still gets praised for her vocals and acting despite how awful she was.

jgirlLVR

1y↑27

I vaguely remember that her father is in the industry. I'm sure that helps.

jgirlLVR

1y↑13

I gave up watching Father is Strange after a couple of episodes when I realized how much Hwayoung was in it. It's a shame because I wanted to check out Lee Yu-ri after her star turn in Jang Bo-ri is Here.

DemiDoLL Miu

1y↑1

@jgirlLVR I didn't know that was her! She looks so different from her time in t ara

jiusomnia (혼혈)

1y↑33

@Annie Kimsay she isn't a bad actress but the point's her bad personality cannot be condoned. She ruined not 1 but 6 people's lifetime career and yet she's still able to deserve success/fame?? Shame on her

Chaeerie

1y↑26

@Annie Kimsay the point is not her talent but her ruining the career of 6 people at one go for selfish reasons while rest of T-ARA suffered from public shame for years and still have their name stained. She definitely doesn't deserve her career and fame for what she did. Not to mention, her shameless attitude to not even have enough courtesy to apologize

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Johnny Gil

1y↑815

The fact that T-ARA was so famous back then during the Roly Poly, Lovey Dovey, Cry Cry, and Sexy Love era. They are almost head to head with SNSD back then, but the bullying scandal erupted. As I can remember, this is one of the starting point of the bullying scandal in the kpop industry. This is also the most talked about scandal back then.

Syeyon Kang

1y↑5

Facts. Their songs are still really good. Ngl some old kpop songs may sound a bit cringy now because the trends back are very different from what's popular now. BUT I recently listened to T-ARA's songs like 'Like the first time', 'Cry Cry', 'Roly Poly', 'Why are you being like this/Weironi' and they're all really well made songs. They don't sound old and outdated at all. Just shows how well they could've done if they were able to continue as a group.

Odd

@Syeyon Kang which old kpop song that u feel cringy?

JT

1y↑8

Head to head with SNSD? Not even close. They were more on the same level as Kara. A few good songs here and there… not a consistent wave of popularity, like SNSD. Their group was just plagued with too much drama. I blame their agency, couldn’t manage the girls correctly.

Syeyon Kang

1y↑1

@Odd I don't have a specific song. But some of the trends from early 2010 kpop can be considered cringy now I guess? Like the excessive use of that robot autotune effect.

Syeyon Kang

1y↑3

@JT Tbh yea I agree. For me Tara was on the same level as Kara, Secret and maybe After School? SNSD level is more like Wonder Girls and 2NE1

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ispeakfangirl

1y↑72

The saddest part about this is that Hwayoung and her sister still has a career to this day. She never had to face the consequence of her actions. She banked on ruining other members career to launch her own. She ruined what the original members of T-ARA worked so hard for.

Ckaine

1y↑2

true, it sucks. Some people really get away after all the damage they do to other people not even an apology and if they do it's for the sake of saving their career.

Loli Pop

1y↑14

T-ara fans keeps on tormenting her. ( Karma) she deleteyher Instagram account, she never had a acting gigs for years , she was removed from the season 2 of that 1 drama.

Ckaine

1y↑1

@Loli Pop really? what about her twin sister? man it sucks how she really had to destroy her whole group like that.

Loli Pop

1y↑4

@Ckaine both of them do have acting job, and the active members of T-ara are still doing good tho.

Ace Lightt

1y↑545

The fact that she didn’t lose anything and still has a career and is in the industry while T-are were harassed and went through a lot their whole career damaged.

I remember when one of the members had a car accident and knetz said that she deserved it and when Jiyeon broke her nose and got hate. They really went through hell.

Knetz never learn nor learn to investigate who really is the bully but always bully the victims and ruin their careers.

faiz zarul

1y↑28

I think soyeon broke nose. If i am not mistaken. However, as i know hwayoung and family already rich. So no wonder they both still survive eventho they are sucks. I just hope people not watching and ban her in drama n movies

greenjade21

1y↑15

@faiz zarul It was Jiyeon who broked a nose, during practice and Soyeon got into a car accident ... Yup! RHY's family is rich (could be?!)! If you remember and have watched their show Dreamgirls ... the second part of it after the OT6 finished their training as Flight Steward, they worked as Congresswoman's Staff! And in one of their conversation, RHY told them as she pointed in a certain office that, that was his Father's office! So, I think, it may have been one of the reasons why they did not revealed or resolve the whole thing publicly (in my opinion!)

clara _lgrs

1y↑3

I know it's been 2 days but I wanted to say this. This story is complicated because she was a new member and the other members of T-ARA ignored her on TV shows (like said in the video) or posted mean tweets. But they never told netizens why. So naturally people thought they were mean bc she was a new member. She never showed she was mean to them but they were showing they didn't like her. You see the problem? It is really complicated to "investigate" like you said when people don't know what's going on behind the scenes. People are judging based on what they see. And what they were seeing is a whole group being mean to one girl.

clara _lgrs

1y↑3

But I'm not defending them just asking to understand how complicated it could be to see the truth. Nobody came to explain the situation clearly or tell the truth. They did it way after. And the bully was playing the victim so well its easy to be fooled. It's unfair that they career was ruined bc of that and not the sisters. And I don't think they ever apologized for that which makes it worst.

Tiffany Kim

Sad thing this probably won't ever change at least now for now

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Stick Man

1y↑19

SanSan

1y↑507

They are one of the legendary K-pop groups that shaped my beautiful vision to k-pop in general . I feel heartbroken to everything happening to my fvrt grps I wish all of them could come back 💔

2damecuteUK

1y↑277

The biggest villain was actually their agency who literally forced the members to work during serious injuries, fatigue and threatened them with losing there spot in the group if they didn’t work hard.
Adding new members randomly.
There a video of T-ARA being interviewed and they were so tired they were falling asleep live on camera.
They never had time off or any holidays and these were young girls.

bambinsta

1y↑11

Yes it seems like from what come out so far is that Tara members are treated differently with Hwayoung which could explain why the girls dislike and want to isolate Hwayoung so much????

Not saying any sides is right but I feel like that’s how it all unfolds.

Cause imagine you being threatened by your boss that you are gonna get fired if you are sick, but your colleague just FAKE A SICKIE and get out of anything with no consequences??

I would be pissed too

Loli Pop

@bambinsta The girls never dislike Hwayoung. They always keep on saying that it was a misunderstanding and they really regret going on tweeter.

Jiji Pir

They aren't young girls.

2damecuteUK

1y↑3

@Jiji Pir T-ara debut with there company at a young age.
We’re actively working full time with no holidays for 4 years. The group members age range was a mix of 16- early twenties during the scandal.
There were still in school and college which is a young person.

Jiji Pir

@2damecuteUK Huh? Where did you get that? Boram and Qri debuted when they are 24 years old , Soyeon was 23, Eunjung was 22 and Hyomin was 21 and Jiyeon was almost 17 that time. The fake bullying scandal happened in 2012. Boram and Qri are 26, Soyeon is 25, Eunjung is 24 and Hyomin was 23. Jiyeon, Hwayoung and Ahreum are like 19 years old that time.

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このyaroyaro

1y↑216

I've been a Kpop fan since 2010/2011 but I wasn't really a Queen (their fans), just a casual listener. When I heard about this issue, I started to listen lesser to their songs (because it was a BIG BIG MESS back then, and I'm immature for judging too early), and it was my fault for not knowing all the details. It's also a learning for me not to jump in any conclusions without knowing the whole story.

Them winning on a music show for their "What's My Name?" comeback after SO MANY YEARS really got me. Try searching for their win, and you'll see even the other idols and fans are celebrating and cheering for them. I also got teary-eyed watching them.

One lie, and T-ara was ruined. I thought this was, like, a lesson for people. Sadly, it wasn't. It even happened to Garam and Soojin (they are the ones I know are innocent). People are so quick to judge and "cancel" idols without knowing the full story, it's actually disgusting. One thing from me: Unless I know all the deets, I won't judge. First, I'm not in any position to judge. Second, I don't want to be a part of the reason why a person would lose their reputation.

P.S. It still doesn't sit right with me that they haven't apologize, even as a joke or whatever. Haven't addressed the issue, knowing that they ruined the group. How immature and how rude.

Arsenio arsenio

1y↑13

Yes, although we were young and immature back then for judging T-ARA, we were also manipulated by Hwayoung and the media. Luckily I didn't go all the way to harass them back then, I just engaged less with their contents. However, I also feel very cheated when the Hwayoung's truth came out because I thought I stuck up with the victim, turned out I was manipulated by the "victim" herself. Same goes to the AOA Allegation. I didn't hate Jimin because I was more mature and I actually enjoyed AOA in the Queendom.
The one person that needs to be in prison for defamation right now is the one who creates the allegation. They know how to utilise the hate bandwagon and cancel culture to their benefits. Justice for T-ARA, Jimin, Garam, Soojin. Soojin's hurt the most because I love G-idle and I feel robbed from witnessing Soojin in Nxde era. She would've killed this era.

Marc Sigoloff

1y↑176

It hurts that my favorite group had to go through this. Kpop fans who abused T-ARA certainly can share in some of the blame. What gave them the right to torment T-ARA, over things that were never their business? I guarantee if this same thing happened with an American group fans would have ignored the internal bickering.

Rian

1y↑77

I am still so mad at Hwayoung up to this day. She really ruined T-ara. I’ve been called bad names for protecting T-ara from other haters back then and I still dont regret it. They don’t deserve it. 😢 I’m just happy that some of the members are still enjoying life. Was really scared for their mental health back then.

jiusomnia (혼혈)

1y↑4

Ikr, I feel u. Many ppl mocked at our fandom for being a bully. Look the truth's out now hence SHE DOES NOT DESERVE THE FAME SHE HAS NOW. She ruined T-ARA's career, just by saying she's young back then isn't an excuse.

Jiji Pir

@jiusomnia (혼혈) she's not even famous.

the YAK in YAKGAN

Me also, she was once my bias but after that. I dont wanna see her ever again

NotMykl

1y↑2

Hwayoung didn't "ruin" T-ara. Their management did along with all the assholes on the internet who jumped on the bandwagon without knowing all the facts. They are the major bullies. The fake videos, the skewing of the facts, the harassment, the making shit up to support their version of "facts" - they are the ones who "ruined" T-ara.

Hwayoung and the rest of the group had the right to be upset with each other. The other members had the right to be upset with Hwayoung for skipping out on rehearsals. The management should've gotten them into mediation but instead they allowed everything to be released to the public who went wild, holding a kangaroo court and convicting the members for nothing.

Suzy .

I feel you we used to get into arguments with haters. It was hard being a queen. Happy they're all doing okay now though. Jiyeon is now doing movies again after all this time.

I remember when jiyeon was on that show and she saw a psychologist you could see how much her mental health was impacted

Saya Mizuno

1y↑39

It's always and forever my favorite girl's group. I never believed Hwayoung was bullied. I can completely understand Jiyeon being salty when even ppl working with them as a stuff admitted she was very problematic to work with. Jiyeon always seemed to me to be straight forward person showing always how she feels with almost no filter. I'm so happy she found the right guy and got married. This kind of irritation for long time had to be triggering..It would be for me to be honest.

Solip

1y↑8

T-ara was and still is my fav group.
I’ve never love a group as much as T-ara, they’re literally my teenage years and early adult years.
They accompanied me through a lot !
Even now when I hear their songs randomly in the streets of Seoul I’m so happy !

Not even gonna talk about the scandal cuz it was so unfair and back then in 2012, I was so shocked.
They didn’t deserve all this hate, no one deserve that.
I’m just so proud of being a fan of T-ara for so long, I’ve never doubt them, I saw them in concert, hugged them and talked to them a bit, that’s enough for me.

lookitzalollipop

1y↑53

There were so many things wrong here. Bullying, isolation, poor management and running to social media before handling the situation privately and with common sense.... It's a shame because Hwayoung was one of my favorite members and I loved her interactions with the other members after joining

Emi

1y↑55

It’s a shame how nasty of a person Hwayoung really is. Her character in Age of Youth was one of my favorites…

Tri Summers

1y↑7

This :( also, I've read somewhere that the reason why she's not included in the 2nd season is because she got involved with a married man. 😢 There were proof like photos in a hotel, as far as I know but I could be wrong.

Lasitha Jayawardana

1y↑153

What Mina did to AOA is one of those "crimes" that deserve 족주/Joju. Her bullying allegations have pretty much been verified as false. She literally ruined lives. The "funny" thing about S.Korea, is that bullying, especially sexual bullying/harassment from school level and then atm uni, work and military service, is so prolific but there seems to be no move for social change (as an outsider looking in).
Please let me know if there have been moves, especially in legislation against school level bullying and legislation to punish university bullying/hazing/ragging and in the military/first responders.

Raisou

1y↑20

And the saddest thing about that is: She was unstable, she could've sought help but no, she didn't. And the biggist victim of her wrongdoings wasn't surprisingly Jimin, it was herself, because of her self-destructive behavior.

Winnie Chung

1y↑1

What’s Joju?

Christian Ramos

1y↑2

Wait were they really all lies? I stopped following that drama ages ago.

Victoria

1y↑5

@Christian Ramos yea,she wanted money from that situation,because she was bankrupt and sick

Lesley

1y↑1

@Winnie Chung and I read it as Soju. 🙄🙄

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Arvin Baluyot

1y↑6

The main reason why I love Kpop because of T ara when I first saw their MTV TIme to love and Time to Listen and got curious about this girl group and started listening from all their songs. This group can do any genre of song from pop, ballad, love song, sexy, cute, retro, disco, rap, robotic etc... and all of them are really good and addicting to listen. I really miss T ara.

hyojungcafe

1y↑69

T-ara was the reason I ever got into kpop. August 2012 was the time I got into kpop. The whole scandal was messy. I was a fan during their peak of the scandal. I didn’t know what was going on and why hwayoung was missing in performances. It wasn’t until I saw clips of the girls apparently bullying hwa. I’m so glad that the girls sorta got closure in 2017. What I didn’t like was that Korea shunned them. However, China was still accepting of them and allowed ONLY t-ara to perform as a Korean act. T-ara will always have a special place in my heart. I do, though really love Hwayoung in my father is strange. Thank you for covering this scandal. Stan T-ara and Stan Ahreum. STREAM TIKI TAKA 🖤💘

사피엔스유발하라리

1y↑26

This and Tablo incident actually changed how I see things forever. I was one of many people who blamed and hated t-ara members for bullying hwayoung, but after I read an article written by one t-ara fan which proved almost every bullying proof were fake and manipulated, I realized how dumb and naive I was and how evil and mean some Koreans are. Not saying t-ara is completely innocent, cause they should've not posted like that.

faiz zarul

1y↑4

Starting hwayoung enter t ara, she already not respect the group member. Jiyeon almost cried alot and can be seeing on performance stage. Plus, her father control the company too as stakeholder. About tweet, i believe they really dont know how to express or maybe they already talk with company but no actions be taken. If you said t ara do a mistake, then hwayoung much and much trouble doing a mistake. Find it

NotMykl

Unless you were 12 you should've used critical thinking instead of just agreeing with everything. Think for yourself instead of believing everything on the internet.

Loli Pop

1y↑12

I feel like I need to comment this. Despite the fake bullying scandal , T-ara is actually the third best selling 2nd gen girl group when it comes to Physical album sales, still in the top 3 when it comes to digital sales. Still one of the most successful girl group of their generation. ✨🌻

Ces Po

Until the bullying scandal happened

Loli Pop

1y↑3

@Ces Po We really can't deny the fact that their reputation was badly affected by that fake bullying scandal, Fyi they are still the third best selling girl group of second gen ( physical/digital) even after that scandal. They still manage to hold tours and concerts in China and Japan, been able to invite in some TV shows in China where they paid 5 times higher, all of that happened after the scandal. 🌻😌

Cresc

1y↑14

T-ara was one of my favourite girl groups; to think that without this scandal, they would've continued the height of their popularity, making songs and amazing MVs. I will always miss the original 6 members <3

I t z y

50w↑5

And to think that they still have work as actresses, especially Hwayoung, even after all this. And it's unfair, because bullying rumors ruin idols' careers, to the point of running them away from their groups, but she is a successful bully who has even won awards. Well, at least we knew that she would be a good actress before she even officially wanted to become one.

iamnotjack

1y↑9

Saying she was too young is such an excuse. Younger ones than her did not behave like her. And also this should be a perfect example of how people should grow a brain and not make judgements without solid proof. People saying "oh no, T-ara suffered so much because of her lies",sure, but they suffered more from their own fans' abuse

Loli Pop

1y↑2

And the fact the she was 19 that time. Lmao. Isn't that already an adult.

Fennekindol

1y↑162

It's the company's fault. If they didn't say that the member's accounts were hacked, people wouldn't assume that the members were guilty. Although Hwayoung was mostly at fault here, this bullying rumors wouldn't start if they talked to each other instead of going in to social media.

Ace of Emperor

1y↑6

but the real problem is their CEO add new member

Zodiac Sagittarius

True. Idrk T-Ara but based on what’s presented here, the members shouldn’t have been so petty online when the public doesn’t even know there’s supposedly a problem with Hwayoung.

Ofc they’re gonna look like the bullies bc their tirades were petty asf instead of just being honest about it and actually told the issue firsthand so people would know the context on their tweets

NotMykl

Claiming your account is "hacked" is an idiotic thing to claim when everyone is having a fight and way to easy to prove false.

leeknowbutidont

1y↑25

i miss tara so much i hope they can comeback just like the other 2nd gen groups. and the fact that hwayoung continued to become an actress is so ironic.

faiz zarul

1y↑1

Jiyeon, eunjung and hyomin also an actress

Woo 123

1y↑2

they already did, they also own their trademarks too

Loli Pop

They literally continue their careers even after that scandal. They are active till 2017 and had a comeback in 2021.

Blaq Rabbit

1y↑7

T-ara is such a talented girl group so sad that they all went through this even the staff were annoyed, I'm surprised the company didn't step in sooner maybe could've ended differently +maybe should've stopped her twin sister from involving her self in the situation too!
I still listen to their songs; honestly one of the best groups. Like T-ara and SNSD are on the same level to me💞✨🥺
Really recommend you listen to their songs!🥰🤩

Ian Tanchingco

52w↑2

As a Queens since 2012. I always saw hwayoung as a spoiled brat, hence the probable reason other members were distant to her. She got inserted to the group in its peak, she didnt went through the years of rigorous audition and training but she and her sister was bought in to be in a kpop group.

Nadjirah Kelumin

52w

I don't think they are distant with her ? She seems to be really close with the members. Since they keep on explaining that it was a simple discord between the member's that even family experience.

Little Miss Janette

1y↑33

T-Ara was my favorite girl group back in my teenage years and I never ever heard of that story. It's really sad to hear all of this

Sirk Corner

1y↑7

Im a fan of them since 2010. T-ara was one of those group who is well loved by the general public , it means they are well loved not just by kpop fans but also the general public with no particular age. That's why when the scandal rise up, the people who turned their back at them was the general public. Yes, there's also some Queens/kpop fans who turned their back at them but it's mostly the general public.

Sirk Corner

1y↑1

To make it clear , T-ara never disband even after that backlash from knetz. They only took a 1 month hiatus then continue to promote as a group, ofc without Hwayoung. They still manage to have a concert/tours in Japan and China , receiving endorsement and acting offers. Consistently released a comeback from 2013-2017.

Sirk Corner

It's just a shame that we don't see the full potential of their popularity beacuse of that scandal. But looking at it now, T-ara recently have a comeback last December 2021 , manage to released a single album without a company. For those people who keep on saying that T-ara was nothing beacuse of that scandal , you guys are just insane.

t

1y↑5

I'm so glad never believe her and twin. I have always been on T-ARA side since first day of this controversy until today. QUEEN'S will never forgive what these two snakes did.

Nabi

52w↑2

Those are stuff that reached the surface... There are so many other down right nasty narcisstic fights bullying throughout the years within Korean entertainment, be it Kpop or KDrama that never reaches the public... It's absolutely nothing compared to what you've seen or heard in America

Zachari Kurbah

1y↑62

The bullying controversy was a lie, I never believe the bullying controversy either, I waited till the truth came out, the girls did nothing wrong, it was Hwayoung and her twin sister Hyoyoung from F-ve Dolls harassing the members and threatening Areum (T-ara's maknae during Day By Day promotions) with physical harm, I can't believe netizens believe this fake allegations, so stupid, I'm happy for the 6ARAs (although they're currently 4 members now) with their activities and solo activities, the Ryu sisters are so disgusting

naranja

1y↑7

so from the video.. I guess she was a drama queen and high maintenance but that doesn't disprove that she wasn't bullied by her members lmao. two things can be true at once. perhaps because of her alleged attitude/work ethic they bullied her even more, on top of being a latest addition to the group. It's quite obvious from the catty tweets they posted sneak dissing her as she exaggerated an injury. lol you do not do that to a group member if you're not hostile towards them.

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𝐑𝐲𝐮𝐣𝐢𝐧'𝐬 𝐒𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐞

1y↑104

Yes, Hwayoung didn’t make good decisions, but I don’t think the members should make fun of her. Also, it’s not fair how the other T-ARA members were affected so badly by Hwayoung’s decisions.

shinichi kudo

1y↑11

What make fun?

nctzen

1y↑20

They probably made fun of her bc she was so rude

Brenna The cat lover

1y↑5

I mean she deserved it and how’s it “not fair” they would rightfully be so affected by their bully’s decision’s

shinichi kudo

@Brenna The cat lover bullying?

Brenna The cat lover

1y↑6

@shinichi kudo them making fun of her like if u bully me and don’t seem to care u get zero respect from me idc😂

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Shreyashi Sarkar

1y↑4

While this incident did ruin T-ARA completely, it has also made things so much different for the K-pop world where bullying incidents actually take place. When someone comes up with allegations, you always think whether they are pulling a Hwayoung on us are whether they are being genuine. This happened when Mina came up with bullying allegations against Jimin and even in the Hyunjoo and April bullying cases. I am not really aware of what happened in both instances since I don't really follow K-pop news very closely, but I remember thinking that maybe the alleged victims are the ones lying.

Either way, this one incident changed the way victims and their allegations are perceived, which, I don't know may be a good thing in a way?

Loli Pop

It didn't ruined T-ara completely. They still manage to survived.

Where is Justice

1y↑2

Not only Tara is the victims of slander but Soojin too is a victim. In Korea, there is no justice. Justice only to those haters.

StasyNasty

1y↑17

I really loved T-ara. Have their album and listen their old songs even now. And i was their fan back then, when it all happened. It was devastating to see all this... We obviously can't know what was going on for sure, but i never stopped believing in girls. Their company shouldn't have add the new members... It was what ruined them. So sad. And everything just because of one girl... Still don't like her even after all these years.
T-ara is still existing though, if i'm not mistaken. It's only 4 of them (can be mistaken) and i really need back to listen them and support them!

21minute

47w

In hindsight, CCM suddenly adding more members even though T-ara has already solidified themselves as a six member group for over a year was the slow start of their downfall. Yes, they hit it even bigger with Roly Poly and the others hits afterwards, but really a lot of Netizens were so confused as to why Hwayoung was even added. And that didn't stop there. By the time Day by Day hit, which was the era where the bullying scandal happened, they added two more members. And as it turns out, the Hwayoung CCM added to the group became the reason of T-ara's nosedive in popularity. The other two new members didn't even last long with the group. By 2013, T-ara went back to being a six member group with the original members since debut. So really, they could have dodged so many bullets if CCM managed them better.

Khushi Dey

1y↑1

I got to know Hwayoung after "MY FATHER IS STRANGE" at that time she was my favourite
But now I feel hurt to know that she can actually act so well even in real life 😭😭😭😭😭

Elith Luxe

1y↑2

I have learned to move on because this was many years ago and surely she can't be the exact same and as immature anymore. She is rarely seen nowadays as she's so low profile. I almost forgot about her till this video

Matrix - The original.

1y↑3

It’s undeniable that Hwayoung had a celebrity disease, was spoiled and entitled and lied about a injury in order to gain attention,sympathy and not work much but the member who bragged about winning the popularity poll and mocked her for arriving last makes me think that they were also unnecessarily rude and petty towards her. Just because maybe they were less spoiled than her, it doesn’t mean that they can’t also act badly towards her sometimes.
A lot of conflicts have both parts at fault somehow, even if one has bigger fault than the other.
I just wanted to remind people of that. I am not defending her.

Zodiac Sagittarius

1y↑1

Agreed. They also handled this pretty badly it just made them look petty and bully like what would they expect when the public doesn’t know any context

Loli Pop

The funny part is , each one of them keeps joking, mocking and hitting each other and they used that as an evidence. 😅

NotMykl

1y↑1

@Zodiac Sagittarius Their MANAGEMENT handled it badly, they are the ones responsible for helping their employees. MANAGEMENT is the one who needed to get them into mediation. The idiots on the internet who took this shit and ran are the ones you need to blame not the members.

jonny thapa

1y↑22

To think that all of this could have been avoided only if the company had revealed the truth soon after the accusation.I still don't understand what they were worried about to think that it is better for four innocent ones to suffer hate from the public and also losing thousands of album sales that failed to happen bcoz of public hate

Lance LaCour

1y↑1

T-ARA was, is and always will be one of my favorite K-Girl groups. I liked them with Hwayoung. She was a great member who brightened up every stage.

HyunasLollipop

1y↑6

The annoying thing is, Hwayoung is an amazing actress and has some great shows under her belt. If all of those had not happened, she could have been a big actress (like seo yeji pre-scandal)

Douglas Leary

1y↑4

Despite domestic difficulties, T-ARA managed to establish fans overseas in markets like China and Vietnam where the enjoyed a lot of touring before their honor was restored in Korea.

Quentin Stockdale

1y↑67

I can't believe no one ever brought up T-ara's Hello Baby season as "evidence" because the animosity between T-ara and Hwayoung jumps off the screen. Knowing nothing else but that I initially believed the rumors were true until I learned the snake sisters lack determination

pepperminterica

1y↑2

Was the behavior that bad? I didn't watch their season so I have no reference

Loli Pop

I never see anything on hello baby episodes. It probably looks awkward since it's Hwayoung first show with the other members.

Izzul Iman Zainal

1y↑8

Thanks for making this video..hwayoung deserved to be hated and cancelled..she's not just ruined a big name like T-ARA..but because of her, every members have to suffer and face hates form K-nets not just hates but they also received death threats and their families are also affected.

jiusomnia (혼혈)

1y↑4

YES, she isn't even apologetic so she doesn't deserve to be forgiven. N E V E R.

시ᄅᄒ어

1y↑61

you know what kpop teaches me. never FULLY trust the victum and always look around the situation before jumping to conclusions

Haegemon

Yanu Dista Netz are inmature. Prove is they flow with the guts and not the brains, till the point where they can become bullies too.

Pendragon

1y↑4

I’ve been a T-ara fan since day 1… I remember how damn famous they are back then they are digital monsters every song they released are all hits.. but sadly the false accusations ruined T-ara and how badly CCM handle the issue they let the k-netizens bullied T-ara for that effin wrong accusations while Hwayoung is just there sitting pretty receiving a lot of appreciation with her acting career I know she can act btw but I’m still mad because how T-ara suffered because of her I’m really mad how k-netizens treated T-ara after the scandal.. from unstoppable girl group to most hated… gosh that’s why everytime Day by day played on my shuffle I get too emotional and asking what if the accusations did not happen and maybe Sexy Love, Number Nine or Sugar Free will be famous as there old songs… Time flies everyone move on already and my gurls are in happy place now.. 😭

Sadia Islam Sara

1y↑6

The fact that the other member who talk later didn't trash the bad one, she on the other hand told people that she apologized to her and it's okay, shows the member's personality who got bullied.Even after all the drama and career ruining they are being humble.

Mariana Barros

1y↑9

Thanks for making a video without insults or hate spreads. Just facts. I see that there are things that T-ara, Hwayoung and Areum said in fact have connection. It's really a shame what happened to them.

greenjade21

1y↑5

I am a fan not too long but, entered into fandom after the scandal! I guessed, my curiousity made it happened! I'm glad that I gave them the benefit of the doubt and have come to know the real truth behind the Ryu Twin's Fiasco (rather than T-ara Bully scandal),! These girls have learned a hard lesson because of it! But, a true fan, willl always listen but, not be blinded by the truth! And these OT6, their character and souls are intact! That's why, even up to now, us fans love them.

Ziya

1y↑8

I liked her in hello my twenties (also known as age of youth). That was my first ever kdrama and I didn’t know she was a former singer and supposed bully until a few years ago😬 and I did not know she had twin until this video

Maru

1y↑5

I still remember how big T-Ara was back then. Then this incident happened and all is lost. As much as it's a loss, glad that the truth has finally been revealed.

Katie Sto

1y↑21

This reminds me of one girl in my class who faked her arm injury to get attention. She told us only 2-3 years later that it was fake. Nobody trusted her after that. There are also other lies that she told us but this is the main lie she told.

MyFantasyisNCT

1y↑99

Even doe Hwayoung is the cause of the group downfall, its the ceo and company that ruined them for not standing up to the allegations and defending the members even if the ceo thought he had good intentions to just let it die down because none of the things Hwayoung said was true about the members but that just make the fans and k-net more mad and irritated because the ceo/company is ignoring them and not responding to their concerns & questions about the members and the allegations against them

Woo 123

1y↑2

the ryu siblings uncle were one of the executive in mbk if I remember?

NotMykl

Rewrite with punctuation. Run on sentences are not worth deciphering.

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TASTYwoo

47w

Yea such a sad era for the loyal Queens'. Hwayoung def was my bias wrecker back then but it was such huge dissapoitment after the news broke out. But as T-ara's fan I am still happy for them even tho they are not as big now. Jiyeon and Soyeon are married and other members are also doing their own things (still wonder how Boram is doing TuT). Hope their life treats them nice. T-ARA might be inactive now but their Hits stays!! I still replay their songs all the time, no bad songs from them! I miss you and love you T6!!

Morgan Marie

1y↑83

It's crazy to me that fans just assume that the members in every single idol group like each other behind the scenes. It's a known issue to insiders that most groups don't actually like each other to the extent that they portray. This is especially true for girl groups.

It is VERY rare to find groups that genuinely like one another, with some as close as what family would be.

Tbh I'm kind of astonished that their management company handled this so badly.

Malena

1y↑3

I'm so glad I'm a Mamamoo stan. My girls love each other fiercely ❤️

Wifi

1y↑10

@Malena i think one of the reasons alot of the biggest girlgroups are so popular is because you can tell they arent trying to sell their relationship

Akira590

Happens to boy groups too enhypen 🤮

Karen So

@Akira590 any tea?

J Chan

1y↑7

Whenever there is a bullying accusation, I always withhold my judgement due to what happened to T-ara. I never understood how it is justified to bully the accused.

Official Schmitar

1y↑13

As a T-ara fan i can never forgive Hwayoung but i also blame CCM for everything, i still can't believe they never released any statement to clarify the situation or to protect the girls during that time, instead they gave T-ara comeback after comeback without clearing their name and made T-ara looked like a shameless group

jiusomnia (혼혈)

THIS

jiusomnia (혼혈)

LIKE HOW CCM DID DIA DIRTY

Tean

47w

It’s crazy because I remember T-ara was getting crazy popular during this time. Hwayoung was new and probably got jealous of other girls. She did ruin the group and it doesn’t seem like she cares and thinks she really is the victim. It’s a shame her and her sister are so malicious and did this and never got real repercussions for it. If I was T-ara member I would hate Hwayoung to this day.

Andra_

1y↑3

Cancel culture in Korea is scary. They're like dictators. It's more frightening that people there take hypocrisy seriously to quickly judge and impose moral superiority on the pettiest situation and impose immediate cancellation, especially not giving a chance even if not guilty. It ruins people's lives, hopes, and dreams. Btw, where's that person now? Don't people know the truth and give the same high moral judgment energy like they did to t-ara

Raisou

Yeah, the cancel culture there is justas nuts, if not worse, than North Korea.

DKG

49w

Hwayoung did her part but I remember clearly that the fans of SNSD and 2ne1 were the ones pushing the scandal with fake edits as "evidence" of bullying to bury Tara since they were becoming the number 1 girl group. I was not a fan of any of those groups but my bias in my favorite group was a close friend to one of the member of T-ara and I remember everything happening in real time. It was a great injustice.

Nadjirah Kelumin

49w

Fr, it's mostly sm stans 💀

Ken Albertson

47w

The 6 main members of T-Ara were very tight. On three separate occasions the management tried to incorporate a seventh member into the group. HwaYoung was the second of these. None of the three seventh members lasted more than a year. In each case the original six rejected them. T-Ara was fine with six members, so the management was at fault in the problems. Also, the T-ara original six members openly trash talked Hwa Young on the social networks. This is how the dissension in the group became known to the fans. The fans were at fault in the breakup. Later, on a variety show the original six admitted their failure in the public trash talking. The original six were at fault. If Hwayoung did fake her injury, this is not something that would break up the group. This should have been handled quietly and not in the social networks. HyaYoungs sister did threaten Arum for being a tattletale, but this did not break up the group as it was not known at the time. The T-Ara episode was a learning experience for all of Kpop who then adopted various restrictions on the members using social networks. HwaYoung was not totally innocent, but she definitely did not break up the group or give cause for dismissal.

Nadjirah Kelumin

46w

Huh? The Original 6 members never rejected them. Hwayoung was terminated by the company it was voted by the staff's and the management. Ahreum leaves the groups beacuse she can't handle the stress that time Dani was never debuted in the group, the management told that she will replace Ahreum but it never happened. T-ara members admit that they are wrong for expressing their frustrations at social media. The management handled the situation poorly.

Ken Albertson

46w

@Nadjirah Kelumin The reason that the management suddenly terminated Hwayoung was because of the complaints of the others that were made, in part, over the social media.

Nadjirah Kelumin

46w

@Ken Albertson she was terminated beacuse of her being disrespectful. It was both decision by the management the staffs who are around them. She was terminated after she make a scene on music bank back stage, and after her twin sister sent a threatening message to Ahreum.

Ken Albertson

46w

@Nadjirah Kelumin You are incorrect. Nobody knew about the threat from her sister until much later. The T-Ara members other than Hwayoung were on a show in which they admitted that they were at fault by complaining on social media and making the issue public. This was a lesson to all of Kpop which they still obey today. There is NEVER any public dissing of a member.

Nadjirah Kelumin

46w

@Ken Albertson Huh? I think you're the one who got it wrong. I'm talking about 2012. After the posting on social media , they already in talk with the management and fixed their feud. Later on they are about to perform on music bank but hwayoung refuse to perform and throw her crutches that was the time when Hyoyoung also sent a threatening message to Ahreum. Then the CEO and the management decided to terminate her contact. She was terminated beacuse she was disrespectful. The other members aren't aware that she was going to terminate.

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Jelly Sso

1y↑2

They were cancelled in SK for 7 years because if this fake bullying scandal. International queen's supported them especially Queen's China and Vietnam. The real bullies came out when they already ruined OT6 careers. Ent. companies in Korea haven't learn their lesson.

jenmygem

1y↑2

I was a Kpop fan all the way from Gen 2, T-ara was legit my favorite group. They rivaled SNSD! (Biggest groups in those days were SNSD, Kara, and T-ara.) I STILL GET MAD ABOUT THIS SCANDAL EVERY TIME!!! They got PURE SILENCE during their concerts and performances!!! The SNAKE twins is why I'm always skeptical for KPOP scandal garbage like AOA's, April's, Gidle's, and Lesserafim's. I think everyone noticed fans are harsher to GIRL GROUPS even if they all turn out innocent. In this industry, you have to see both sides ALWAYS.

Melody Mel

1y↑3

I never care about all the scandals...I always support T-Ara because they have lists of great, catchy songs..

Ice king james

1y↑50

T-ARA is why i love KPOP so its sad knowing a liar ruined T-ARA i will love to see more songs one day

DiIveyy

1y↑2

I loved her character in age of youth and was terrible sad knowing what she did irl 😔

Jin_ Jah

1y↑45

The thing is because Jiyeon has a very straightforward and strong personality that she has no qualms calling hwayoung out. Maybe Knetz have a thing for the underdog and Hwayoung knows how to act like a victim. She always acted like the Diva of the group even when Jiyeon is the prettiest.

PS. That’s the thing for a lot of kpop groups. The visual gets pushed by the company front and center so they have a tendency to get conceited because they get most of the projects, lines, etc. Some visuals don’t change their personality but can’t do anything about it but others let their “bankability” get in their head and even disrespect their seniors.

In T-ARAs case it was Jiyeon and Eunjung that had more projects outside of their singing career but they still do their best vs Hwayoung who acted like the victim and wanted all the attention on her.

Elith Luxe

I get everything but the last sentence which makes it seem like you get to be divalike if you are the prettiest or something

Jin_ Jah

@Elith Luxe well that’s the thing for a lot of kpop groups. The visual gets pushed by the company front and center so they have a tendency to get conceited because they get most of the projects, lines, etc. Some visuals don’t change their personality but can’t do anything about it but others let their “bankability” get in their head and even disrespect their seniors.

In T-ARAs case it was Jiyeon and Eunjung that had more projects outside of their singing career but they still do their best vs Hwayoung who acted like the victim and wanted all the attention on her.

jiusomnia (혼혈)

@Jin_ Jah correction, Qri's their original T-ARA visual. Jiyeon was ltr added in. Both are my bias 😁

Loli Pop

1y↑2

@jiusomnia (혼혈) Jiyeon was always been the visual of the group.

jay Sue

51w

@Loli Pop yes. she was the only idol who took yoona snsd first spot on beauty korean chart, the only time yonna was on 2nd and chosen by idols #1 most pretty female idol in real life

Lolalin kit🌸

1y↑4

Jiji Pir

Fr, and for the record T-ara members admits their mistakes, they are fully aware that they've done something immature in the tweeter part. They take all the responsibilities and never blamed anyone. It was actually T-ara's immaturity ( that time ) the agency mishandling the issue and Hwayoung being disrespectful, I'll mannered and immaturity.

Lolalin kit🌸

Jiji Pir

@Lolalin kit🌸 Hwayoung never claimed she was bullied , she even denied it once, as well as Ahreum . Ahreum described it as a discord that even a family can experience. Agree it was the management as well as the narrow minded people. Plus those people who keeps on fabricating/editing videos and pictures of T-ara to make it looks like a bullying.

Lolalin kit🌸

@Jiji Pir I think as a team the girls lacked a lot communication the CEO (mainly the CEO) and the management team should’ve nipped it in the bud real fast and got them together to talk it out

Jiji Pir

@Lolalin kit🌸 Yeah, they already told that part. I remember when KKS told in a interview that when the members discovered Hwayoung action in Japan concert, he refused to settled it that day, he just told the girls to calm down and settled it in Korea. Maybe that's why the members are upset and went to tweeter.

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Kim Tae

1y↑4

Until now, i will never forget and forgive what hwayoung did to T-ARA. It's hard for me to love and like other kpop girl groups now than T-ARA.

choco piee

1y↑4

Can you make one for How Hyunjoo ruined APRIL members career? People need to know the facts

진실한사람

1y↑1

She won't. She supports hyunjoo.

jiusomnia (혼혈)

1y↑3

What she did without apologising cannot be condone for her actions that caused T-ARA trauma for years

banezza_joiiee

I remember vividly when people came at me online for this because I was on T-Ara’s side. Something was just off to me when this first came out. And my hunch was right. Til this day I will never be okay with what happened to this group.

Just Facts And Everything Nice

Thank you for this! I hope more people gets to know this.

KaLy lis

1y↑4

We'll never know what really happened, they were young and i understand that the original members were angry, they were already doing well with 6 members and then, hwayoung came and all the hardwork they have done is gone . Let's say it was because of the ceo and maybe their management team who didn't know how to calm down all these tension

NotMykl

1y↑1

How was all their hard work "gone"? Did they stop existing as a group? Two more people were added and they sounded BETTER.

jiusomnia (혼혈)

1y↑2

FINALLY JUSTICE HAS SPOKEN. I LOVE U KOOKIELIT FOR BRINGING THE NEWS BACK.

Black Neko

1y↑30

And her career as actress still going well. Meanwhile other members of t ara is going down.
I feel so sad when Hyomin said nobody want to close with them except snsd's members.
Just yuri and sunny hug her and brought her to their dorm to hear her story. (As long i remember they went to same show back then, that why they are close)
Or when IU still support jiyeon even whole industry hate them.
Just their close friend still hug them when this case happend
And the worst hwayoung never apologize and still active as actress. I remember watch her in beauty inside

Lesley Black Velvet

Still active? Still haven't heard any new activities from her other than the Masked Singer gig.

jiusomnia (혼혈)

@Lesley Black Velvet yes she's still active but after masked singer, she got lesser offers to be casted now. SERVE HER RIGHT, it's time that she serve her BLOODY KARMA.

swaah

1y↑2

Nahh I don’t think she is still active as she did in 2015-2017. I can say that T-ara is more active than her right now. They appeared in variety show and some of the members acted in drama and movie, and has photoshoot most of the time. They’re not active now as a group because they aren’t making a comeback but individually they’re doing really well.

Loli Pop

Lol. T-ara members never go down, don't know where did you get that.

Charming Rose

1y↑3

I been a kpop fan in 2009 when I was 12, and I remember when this leg injury was big scandal. I remember thinking something about this scandal was not adding up

NotMykl

So tired of the word 'scandal' being used incorrectly. Use the correct words - fake, false and etc.

Sakura_ Sake

1y↑1

This is why there should at least be one reponsible adult in a group and not just made of minors..at least they could have someone close to open up to and guide them what to do in certain situations or junctures, and even help them adjust and cope up emotionally and mentally with being in the spotlight...that's just my opinion.

That simple inclusion might be negligible from the public's pov but for the members' mental health, chemistry/synergy and relationship, it can actually significantly affect the stability of the group long term especially internally.

jusSz

1y↑8

Cancel culture in Korea is such a 🔥🔥🔥. People easy jump to judged,assumed, and cancelled people without knowing all the truth at all. SICK .

Return To Innocence

1y↑1

Hugh fan of T-ara and have been though thick & thin. Saddened me to see so many people be to quick to judge them! and the so call "Queens" who turned their backs on them. I just wish people of this world wouldn't be so quick to judge someone/something based on what someone else say`s.

Axis Boise

1y↑1

As a Queen, I'm so happy I stuck with T-ara all through the ordeal!

Park Jiyeon lover

1y↑1

I really can’t forget and forgive for what she’s done to my little innocent girls !! T-ARA she needs to punished more and more SHE ruined a whole career + dreams and she turned the Korean netizens Against the girls !!! And she never felt guilty or dump of what she’s doing , she’s hurting then she’s seeing them being hurt she is pure evil and also her twin like there’s two versions of her that will be remarkable for the history forever will Hunter her .

changuk biased

1y↑3

It’s ironic that her fake injury also showed up in her drama “Mad Dog”
Like did she give the producer the idea or did the writers write that in knowing she’s done it in real life?

Eos+

Ive watched a few of her acting works..and hands down... she seems so natural being one but i dont think anyone will truly forgive her unless she apologized to those she wronged. At this point, i am sure everyone is just waiting patiently for her to mess up and end her career once and for all

MUNOVAL

1y↑1

I've always love T-ara songs and they bop ❤️

Just Facts And Everything Nice

1y↑1

I'M STILL CRYING FOR T-ARA!!!!😭

Artemis' hoe

1y↑1

What's even more saddening is when it was revealed that they're not at fault, the fans who threw them hates went back into supporting them again. No one said sorry. None from those truly at fault neither. I heard no apology from the snake twins. I mean- a simple public apology would do and self reflection. Just nothing despite the evidences and accusations. All they do is say they were too young, they're girls, it's normal and shits like that. None from them admitted they were wrong and simply apologized. They literally ruined a career and reputation!!! I won't even mention how it affected the T-ara members' mental health. They received black oceans and couldn't interact with other idols at all. One time, because of the hate they're receiving, when Soyeon went through a car accident, someone told her that she should've just died. Now, tell me just how being a bitch could literally cause a trauma

AashiiiN

1y↑9

Yeah when I see her, I just hate her, together with her sister. It makes me so angry that she's okay saying that she's a real bully just for the sake of some laughs when she literally destroyed 6 other lives. It's also funny that she has never apologized and just get on with her life.

Fatma

1y↑3

T-ara be strong.
I love them forever.

Teddy4Tribe

1y↑12

Still upset about this. T-ara was doing so well, they were so on the rise and I loved seeing Jiyeon on screen because she was a good actress. And then this shit happened and everything they did was scrutinized. Eff those sisters

Waiting 4 T-ara OT 6

1y↑10

How many so-called T-ara fans believed this and joined in on the attacks to T-ara. When all the girls wanted, was to do the best to perform for their fans. And how many weren't T-ara fans but fans of other girl groups who thought getting rid of T-ara would be good for their own groups.

This caused the girls to struggle so hard at the end of their careers when they should have been reaping the benefits of all their hard work.

Michael Rodgers

1y↑2

I think we should use this as a lesson. We don’t know these idols. We can appreciate and respect the work they create. But I think putting them on a pedestal is wrong. They’re human and at the end of the day there is a degree of separation that makes it so we aren’t able to see who they really are.

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