Logistics is the stage name of Matt Gresham, a music producer and DJ from C… Read Full Bio ↴Logistics is the stage name of Matt Gresham, a music producer and DJ from Cambridge, England. He is signed to Hospital Records and has been releasing music since 2004, which he creates using the Reason and Ableton sequencers. His music style tends towards the more soul-influenced styles of drum & bass but also targeted at a club audience rather than a home audience, and is described as such by Hospital Records as "bridging the gap between a lacklustre sub-genre, liquid funk, and more exciting, dancefloor orientated drum and bass". His older brother, Dan Gresham, known as Nu:Tone, is also a drum and bass producer signed to Hospital Records, with whom Matt collaborated under the name Nu:Logic before starting his career as a solo artist. They both still collaborate sometimes, both on producing and DJing.

Missing Link
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Antifreeze I'm working from 9 until 5, I'm working just to…
Bracket Sometimes I think I want to run Back to the place…
Chain There's no need to argue Cause it's all fixed in…
Curve I had a heart But I buried it someplace I had a…
Curve The I had a heart But I buried it someplace I had a…
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien Hey, I gotta start it MCs be carted, off Ya soft Dinosaur…
Del the Funky Homosapien; Dinosaur Jr Hey, I gotta start it MCs be carted, off Ya soft Dinosaur Jr…
Dinosaur Jr & Del the Funky Homosapien Hey, I gotta start it MCs be carted, off Ya soft Dinosaur…
Dinosaur Jr. & Del the Funky Homosapien Hey, I gotta start it MCs be carted, off ya soft Dinosaur Jr…

Dinosaur Jr. Del Tha Funkee Homosapien Hey, I gotta start it MCs be carted, off Ya soft Dinosaur…
Dinosaur Jr. Del The Funky Homosapien Hey, I gotta start it MCs be carted, off Ya soft Dinosaur Jr…
Dinosaur Jr.;Del Tha Funky Homosapien Hey, I gotta start it MCs be carted, off Ya soft Dinosaur…
Fu Manchu Crushing down the top of a motoring so Watch the road…
Hand Of Mercy Youth scratched Witnessing fallen idols It's never the one y…
Hives If you give up too recently and follow every whim Loose…
Machinae Supremacy Proven only by a science Undecided for us In a world that…
Mal Webb These three chords plait together into song To make Cupid's…
Munimuni & Seelenwald Spiraling in the universe in reverse Many lights seem not di…
Napalm Death Lyrics : lee dorrian / music : bill steer An integral…
Randall Bramblett I barrel thru the ragged sky One dark cloud at a…
The Hives If you give up too recently and follow every whim Loose…
The Hives [Tyrannosaurus Hives] If you give up too recently and follow every whim Loose…
White Skull We see you, but you don't see us We are…
浜田麻里いつのまにあぁ僕らは見ないふりをして渦を巻くマナスの闇に迷い込んだのかだけど僕は忘れない君の瞳の Seven…

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2999 Ramblin' around your city Ramblin' around your town I never …
Let the Senses Clear Your Mind I know what it means to you Let the senses clear…
Machine If you don't hurt me then I won't hurt you. I'm…
Seasons I wonder where this feeling came from, I don't think I've…
The Trip Let me take you on a trip A journey full of…
Thunderchild What's that flare? See it? Green flare coming from Mars, Mar…
Together Together Together Together Together Together Together Toge…
Transporter When I think of you, it brings me down Can't you…

Winter Blues Storm clouds over my head Is just weep in my lonely…

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Evan Zinner

1y↑38

I’m glad you mentioned Boston. The Red/Blue missed connection is the most glaring but there are others. In general, the connections between the Commuter Rail and the subway could be better.

The Green Line Extension that just opened runs adjacent to the Lowell Line of the commuter rail. But you can only transfer between them at North Station in Downtown. This means anybody from the suburbs trying to get to Somerville would need to go all the way to downtown before heading back out. The Green Line should have been extended to West Medford or an infill station should be built on the Lowell Line. 11:11

Similarly, the northern terminus of the Blue Line (Wonderland) is just a couple hundred feet from the Newburyport/Rockport Line. But the commuter rail doesn’t stop there, so you can’t connect.

The connection between the Ashton-Mattapan trolley line and the Mattapan commuter rail station leaves a lot to be desired.

Riverside, the western terminus of the Green D line, is very close but not connected to the Auburbdale commuter rail station.

adamshiftyelso

1y↑2

Missing links in London:

- The Circle/District line terminus at Edgware Road stops just shy of both Marylebone and Baker Street. Quite annoying but I did at least discover a really nice coffee shop and bakery with a “local village” feel walking between the two, which is quite unusual for London.

- The London Overground passes right over Brixton, very close to the station but unfortunately its position on some old viaducts and limited space makes adding a station there very impractical. To get to Brixton from this line requires two further changes.

- The Victoria line terminus at a Brixton is one short stop away on the train to Thameslink at Herne Hill.

- When the Elizabeth Line opened, it meant a regional train service from Greenford to Paddington had to be cut back to West Ealing. This stops just one stop short of Ealing Broadway which would have made this truncated line way more useful. One day I imagine this track could become part of the Central Line, closing the loop.

- No (direct) interchange between the Elizabeth Line and the Victoria Line. Which would have been great as these two lines alone have the power to break the “40 minutes to get anywhere within London regardless of distance” rule.

- Surprisingly no stop on the Elizabeth Line at London City Airport.

- The Northern Line extension doesn’t go to Clapham Junction. I suspect this was deliberate as I’m not sure the line could handle the extra passenger numbers.

Donschnulione

1y↑23

Ah yes, Berlin and the surrounding area is a real offender to this problem... A lot of these are really short missing connections and you can get around them by changing lines a little more often, but they still make everything much less convenient . Here are just some examples that I personally really hate:

U3 from Krumme Lanke to Mexikoplatz (S1) - 850m
U1/U3 from Warschauer Straße to Frankfurter Tor (U5) - 1.2km
U5 from Berlin Hauptbahnhof to Turmstraße (U9) - 2.1km
U2 from Ruhleben to Rathaus Spandau (U7, S3, S9) - 3.4km
U1 from Uhlandstraße to Adenauerplatz (U7) - 1.3km
U9 from Osloer Straße to Wollankstraße (S1, S2, S25, S26) - 1.9km
U7 from Rudow to Berlin Brandenburg Airport (S9, S45) - 5km
U4 from Innsbrucker Platz to Friedenau (S1) - 1km
M2 from Heinersdorf to Pankow Heinersdorf (S2, S8) - 1.1km
and my personal hate:
RB27 from Schmachtenhagen to Oranienburg. The Gap is 6.7km long, but the rails ALREADY EXIST. they just have to reactivate them, then the currently really unused Line would have a FAR bigger purpose.

Anyway, the video mentioned "various points on the Berlin U-Bahn Network" aaaaand as you can see, he isnt wrong.

Ghislain Laframboise

1y↑3

As you have mention in the video the missing link created by the REM is between the Dorval exchange Vaudreuil-Dorion EXO line and the Pierre-Elliot Trudeau Airport in Dorval and the CN Via Rail Line.

In Montréal the two big missing link was Édouard-Montpetit Interchange with the blue Line-5 and McGill interchange with the Green Line 1 but the REM fixed this.

Another Missing link like the Pie-IX extension on the blue Line 5 for the BRT on Pie-IX that supposed to be fixed with the Blue Line extension to Anjou.

However we missed a rare huge opportunity here. to create 4 new line with a simple interchange at PIE-IX/ Les boulevard (blue Line) which should not been confuse with Pie-IX / Stade Olympique on the Green Line.

First we got the Crosstown Anjou - Snowdon -> Lachine Blue Line 5
Secondly you got the Montréal-North Downtown Pink Line 6
Then a Crosstown Montréal-North -Snowdon -> Purple Line 7
Then a Dowtown Montréal - Anjou Magenta or Line 8

Using the sames tunnels twice.

So , What do you think ?

P.S.:The STM did not like the former Crooked Mayor/King of Laval Gilles Vaillancourt's [1989-2013] (Laval / Downtown) Big Orange Open Loop plan.

The STM Wish they have end the Metro at Cartier in Laval back in 1966 creating a beach head and let the Société de Transport de Laval (STL) to extend and connect their own Network like they did for Longueuil with the Yellow line 4

Also they would rather had split the Orange 2 line that they find too long at Bonaventure/Gare Centrale for Operations and Safety reasons.

The Western Branch would become the New Red Line 3. The Old Red line 3 was a Iron Wheel Metro supposed to be the old Deux-Montagnes up to Val-Royal i.e Boulevard Toupin om Cartierville (3A) / Ahutnsic (3B) Mascouche Line via the Mount-Royal Tunnel of the Canadian Northern Railway (CNR -> CN -> AMT -> RTM -> EXO -> REM).

P.P.S Speaking of the Yellow Line 4 is just to connect between The South Shore Longueuil and Berri-UQAM. Some people want it to be extended both ways but it's not a priority for Montréal

Blue Line 5 is a crosstown between the two orange branch that support Université-de-Montréal Campus.

The Old Pink Line 6 was another Iron Wheel crosstown between Du College and Sauvé along the CN right of Wau north of the Metropolitain Highway 40. Now it's is partially part of the Pink Exo5 Commuter Line.

The Old White Line 7 was a parallel Line of the Line 2 Orange along the Pie-IX boulevard . to replace the Montréal North line extension of the blue line who was flattened to Anjou in the 1980'sé it was replace by a SRB/ BRT line 505 in the 1980's- who will be replace by another SRB/ BRT Pie-IX

Thee is no convention for Line 8,9 and 10 however line 11 also know as the P.A.T. LRT Extension between the Honoré-Beaugrand Terminal on the Green Line 1 and the neighborhood of Pointe-Aux-Trembles via the Souligny corridor now who was part of the REM de l'est project.

Currently the bus lines starts at 10 with 10 Delorimier and 11 Montagne 12 Ile-des-Soeurs 13 Christophe-Colomb 14 Atateken (formerly Amhearst), 15 St-Catherine, 16 Graham, 17 Décarie, 18 Beaubien, 19 Chabanel, etc.

Rémi Cardona

1y↑8

Paris has many, MANY, missing links. The most frustrating has to be the northern end of M12, with sidings extending all the way to the RER B at La Courneuve but the last stop being nearly 1km south. Other face-palm-inducing missing links include (clockwise from M12 north):
- M7 north at Le Bourget (currently RER B, M16/17 being built)
- M3 east ending in the middle of a highway interchange
- M1 east (ongoing political battle)
- M5 south which stops INSIDE Paris, it's insane (IMHO it should take over one of the two M7 branches)
- T6 east should have been extended to T3 or M4
- M12 south to T2 or RER C or Transilien N
- M8 south but it's not obvious where to
- M9 and M10 should cross the Seine and connect to T2 (M15 will cross the river though)
- M2 west could be extended to Puteaux or Surennes (maybe a bit overkill)
- M3 west to Bécon-les-Bruyères (Transilien L, M16 being built)
- M3bis and M7bis, just for kicks

Ege Şanlı

1y↑2

I want to talk about an example the video doesn't mention.

First, some background info: In Ankara, the Ankaray (LRT) Line ends at the city's intercity bus terminal. This line is the first rail line in the city. Then, 20 years after this line had opened, the government built a new metro line and put a station that is located close to Ankaray line. But because of this new line built under a highway, there are apr. 800 meters distance between those two stations.

Later, the government dug a tunnel between those stations, put the rails, even built the transfer station, etc. but the line couldn't be opened. Why? Because Ankaray's signalization was too old to be modified, extended, etc. Signalization of the whole line needed to be rebuilt from scratch. Now, the municipality is running an expansion program about the other end of the Ankaray, and they announced while they are building the extension, they'll modernize the signalization and open the other part, too. It probably will take years, but it's better than nothing.

Edit: Again in Ankara, the M4 line ended at a ridiculous station. Yes, it had a transfer station with M1 but you had to make a transfer to go downtown. The funny part is the distance between the station where M4 ended and the downtown station was only three stations. Thankfully, they realized the nonsense and currently expanding M4 to downtown.

Edit 2: I just realized our M1 line has missing connections, too. If they have built 1,5 km longer, the M1 line would end at the location that our commuter rail Başkentray's expanding station.

Ethan Daniel Burg

1y↑1

Paris actually has several more missing links, including:

-M3 between Pont de Levallois Bécon and Bécon Les Bruyères
-T5 to Basilique de Saint-Denis
-M7 to Le Bourget
-M7 from Mairie d’Ivry to Ivry-sur-Seine (RER C)
-M9 from Pont de Sèvres to Musée de Sèvres on T2
-M10 from Boulogne Pont de Saint-Cloud to Saint-Cloud (connecting to T2 and to Transilien L & U)
-M11 from Mairie de Lilas to Rosny (which is currently being built)
-M9 from Mairie de Vincennes to Montreuil-Hôpital (to connect to the M11 extension)
-M1 from Château de Vincennes to Fontenay (which is planned)
-Future T10 from Clamart-Place du Garde to Gare de Clamart (which might be planned?)
-T1 extensions to the east and west which are under construction or are planned

All comments from YouTube:

De-fault! De-fault!

1y↑528

"The next best time is now" sounds so obvious but it's actually excellent insight in the world of transit planning, where "well we didn't do it when we should have so now we just won't do it" seems to be the prevailing approach to things.

Kevin Love

1y↑2

@Bert Graef So what. That is a not-so-whopping $3.20. I will give greater consideration to the tens of millions of dollars in crony corruption from John Tory tripling the amount paid to "outside consultants."

Bert Graef

@Kevin Love corruption? The amount of deadbeats and entitled people who just walk on the bus without paying, and them some of them even publicly declare the driver is an ahole for questioning their non paying , staggers me.

Bert Graef

@RMTransit if people cant walk a few blocks between stops, then too bad. And I am a transit user . The amount of deadbeats, utter slobs, weirdos , druggies and and entitled "poor" people forever yapping obnoxiously on their cell phones , but how dare they have to waddle over a few blocks to the next stop.

Matt McIrvin

1y↑7

@Kevin Love In the US most people see transit as a welfare program for the poor, and those who are not poor believe they do not benefit from it (or will actually be harmed). So funding it through taxes is a big ask. In most other countries it's treated as a public good that anyone might use.

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Kevin Love

1y↑157

The video does not mention an important class of missing link: The deliberate missing link. This is usually the case where two different governments or levels of government are constructing transit and feuding with each other. The example in Toronto that drives me crazy is the lack of connection between the Leslie subway station and the Oriole GO station. In a rational world, the GO station would be moved 250 metres up THE EXISTING TRACK and co-located with the subway station in order to make for an easy transfer. But we do not live in a rational world.

KeiTruckUrbanist

Good news theres a propsal to do exactly that

Alan Chen 💎

That's why I quite like the fact that public transport is mostly a state government issue (as opposed to a local government issue). That diminishes the possibility of different agencies working against each other.

Though that's partially because (with the exception of Brisbane), the other local governments are usually tiny, with less than 100k population in urban areas with over 2 million.

Kevin Love

1y↑6

@Bert Graef No, I do not really expect you to feel sorry for my arthritis. Because that would involve having a heart.

Bert Graef

if you cant walk a few blocks to the next station, I am supposed to feel sorry for you?

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Nicole Hull

1y↑27

a similar thing happens with cycling infrastructure, two high quality bike lanes/paths come very close but there's no connection between them.

so people have to ride in traffic or walk along the sidewalk to get between them

Bryan Rawlings

1y↑110

It's not widely known but the two "missing" stations north of Cote Vertu station on Montréal's Orange Line - Poirier and Bois Franc - were in the original project but were halted by the Quebec Government to rein in costs. Parts of the tunnel are reportedly already excavated. In the late 80's this would have provided a connection to the CN's Deux Montagnes commuter line but now, of course, such a connection would provide access to all the lines of the REM.

Kareem_

@Ethan Daniel Burg thanks for the background!

Ethan Daniel Burg

1y↑2

But yeah, part of the tunnel between Côte-Vertu and Bois-Franc is already dug and there’s only about 1km left to dig (after which they would of course have to also build the two new stations).

Ethan Daniel Burg

1y↑4

@Kareem_ I believe the tunnel to the new Côte-Vertu garage was excavated using drilling and blasting, which is how most of the tunnels of the Montreal metro were dug (although a few sections of the original metro built in the 60s were built cut-and-cover). I imagine the plan is to build the remaining portion of the orange line to Bois-Franc using drilling and blasting, rather than using a tunnel boring machine. I think using TBMs over short distances tends to not be economical.

The REM tunnel to the airport was actually the first rail tunnel in Montreal excavated with a TBM. The blue line extension is also going to use a TMB between Pie-IX and Anjou but use the traditional drill-and-blast method between Saint-Michel and Pie-IX.

Kareem_

1y↑4

@Ethan Daniel Burg they even had the tunnel boring machine down there to extend the tunnel to the new metro garage on Poirier. It would have cost only slightly more to at least complete the boring of the tunnel to Bois Franc about 1 km away. Even if they finish it later with tracks, lighting etc...

But getting the boring machine back in place now will cost so much more. And they'll never do it just for a short extension. These kinds of stupid decisions are what make people hate governments.

Kareem_

1y↑1

This one makes me so frustrated. It's such a no brainer!

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Clara Griffin

1y↑28

San Francisco just built the "Central Subway," a short tunnel for the Muni Metro going through downtown (instead of around). It greatly improved the the existing light rail system and provided the quickest connection between BART and Caltrain, which were previously only connected in the suburbs. This would make transferring between the systems in Downtown SF much quicker. Of course, it would be great if these two systems were directly connected, but this is definately an improvement, especially since the existing Caltrain station at 4th and King will likely become one of the Northern termini of the California HSR.

tiga2001

1y↑7

I always found it strange that BART/MUNI were nowhere near Caltrain and there wasn't an easy way to transfer between them in downtown SF. Good that they remedied that.

Gingermany

1y↑23

This is applicable to bike/ped and other active transportation networks too. Every city should have a network gap closure program.

Aarnav Gupta

1y↑70

Missing links in Delhi Metro:
- Upcoming Silver Line terminating at Aerocity instead of Terminal 1
- Upcoming Magenta line extension terminating at RK Ashram Marg instead of and Central Secretariat.
- Lack of Dwarka-Gurugram connection
- Yellow line not reaching DTU
- Red line not reaching Ghaziabad Railway Station (1 km away)
- Grey line not extending to NSUT

Kanishq Quotes

1y↑2

Even the distance between Aerocity to cyber city guru gram, via mahipalpur, the distance isn't much but it sees massive traffic.
These stretches must be extended to fully create a network that's going to solve the traffic problems at the entry points of delhi.

Even on the east end, noida 62, to red line and Vaishali to red line, each are less than 5 km, yet no progress is being made except speculation.

Dwarka and rohini were supposed to be the new hub yet they have no direct link to guru gram,

Rrts though is being build at very quick pace which makes the slow pace of delhi metro even more frustrating to witness.

Shubham Mishra

1y↑3

@broman178 bro i lived in palam. I never knew palam was part of suburban railway.

Mayank Tyagi

1y↑13

@broman178 the Delhi metro, while being an amazing success in such a short time has completely ignored the existence of Delhi Suburban railway to the extent the most of the Delhiites don't even know a suburban network exists. There could have been so many interchanges in with the system but the system was never revived and it continues to stay in ruins with dilapidated stations and outdated rolling stock.

broman178

1y↑13

I've noticed some more missing links near Indira Gandhi International Airport for the Delhi Metro because there is a suburban railway right beside the west of the airport and there is a station close to the airport (Shahabad Mohammadpur) yet neither the Blue Line or Delhi Airport Metro Express have a direct interchange with it (which could have potentially enabled that station to be upgraded and the suburban railway service to improve), even though the Airport Express directly runs underneath that station and the Blue Line runs almost beside the suburban railway line in that area. There is also the fact that the Airport Express doesn't directly connect with Terminal 1 or have a direct interchange with the Magenta Line to enable better terminal connections in the airport and I've also noticed the Magenta Line directly crosses the same suburban railway line I earlier mentioned at Palam but has no direct interchange with it. Just more examples of the Delhi Metro's poor integration with other rail transport modes & some other Metro lines even though it is one of the best Metro systems in the world (and still the best in India).

Claudio Ferrara

1y↑7

In the city centre, Milan’s new M4 will cross existing M3 halfway between the Missori and Crocetta stations without direct transfer to either. A long surface pedestrian path will be created instead between Missori on M3 and Sforza Policlinico on M4.

One reason could be that in the central section planners chose to make the line follow the filled-in bed of the ancient Navigli canals to avoid interference with buildings under the narrow medieval streets of the historic centre, even in areas where this meant missing a connection or a place of interest.

Chris Cebelenski

1y↑7

Boston has another missing link beyond the blue/red interchange: A north/south route does not currently exist. There is no single ride between north station and south station, which increases expense and time for commuters coming from the north to the financial distract, or those coming from the south to access northern routes.

Jeff Ammons

1y↑92

One example here in Chicago: the Brown Line, which ends at Kimball, just short of the Jefferson Park Blue Line station. Extending the Brown Line to Jefferson Park would make getting to O'Hare a lot easier for many Chicagoans.

DavidSFromThe216

1y↑1

They should have fixed it in the 80s when they extended the line from Jefferson Park to O'Hare. It was already a massive project, what's another two miles?

Joe Joe

@Phillies2008 Nostalgia I would have no issue with it and it could give that stretch of Lawrence some character but I cannot see there being much local support, since it would take up road space, with both the tracks and platforms.

Phillies2008 Nostalgia

1y↑1

@Joe Joe Would a bit unusual though to run like a streetcar on Lawrence, but the cars were based off of streetcars, so, it’s come full circle? 🤷‍♂️

Joe Joe

@Phillies2008 Nostalgia For sure. Running at-grade is kind of quaint and charming throughout the neighborhood but not the best design for expansion. But I also think that expanding the Brown to connect to the Blue Line and Metra is probably the easiest sell as a first leg of a circle line. Long-term, Chicago absolutely needs the connection.

Alexander Lammers

1y↑1

There is bus line 81 though, but I agree a Brown Line would be better.
Or as a compromise an 81E with only intermediate stops at Pulaski and Cicero that times its departures with Kimball arrivals would be great.

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Renae L

1y↑25

In Los Angeles, the C (green) Line ends 2.8 miles away from Metrolink's Norwalk/Santa Fe Springs station which serves some of Metrolink's busiest lines. A direct connection would provide people in OC/IE a very easy option to get to/from LAX.

Renae L

1y↑2

@Bert Graef If I was just commuting to work, then sure, I can walk a bit. That's not feasible with luggage.

Bert Graef

walking a few miles a day would actually benefit most of you whiners.

Richard Bourne

1y↑3

Indeed that is a horrible missing link. LA Metro has been trying to close it for over 15 years but the City of Norwalk opposes any connection that isn't tunneled and doesnt want to provide any money. Really disappointing how we plan regional transporation around the local desires of a few residents.

tiga2001

1y↑2

yeah, I always like taking the green line shuttle from LAX because flyaway was a little unpredictable for me but there's plenty of green line shuttles. But it's sad to see it so empty. Virtually no one wants to take the green line shuttle then the green line then transfer to silver line (BRT) to go into downtown LA.

Geotpf

1y↑3

Of course, there was (and still is, for now at least) a missed connection to the airport on the other side of the line. The Green Line, of all of Metro Rail lines, really kind of goes from nowhere to nowhere, and sub-par ridership demonstrates this fact. In many ways, it was something tacked on the 105 freeway project to make that "greener" than a well thought out transit line. The fact that the aerospace industry downsized their offices at the actual west end of the line hurt too.

Evan Zinner

1y↑38

Matt McIrvin

1y↑1

@Master Trams All the Amtrak service north of Boston is a sleepy curiosity these days and it's really all because there's no connection with the Northeast Corridor. Making that link would change everything.

Master Trams

@Matt McIrvin It could also bring into the realm of slight possibility the prospect of extending the Acela to somewhere like, let's see, Montreal?

Matt McIrvin

@Zan Hecht And it would also knock about half an hour off the travel time you currently need to get to the "wrong" terminal's neighborhood (whether you go by subway, bus or on foot it seems to be about the same).

Matt McIrvin

@Master Trams It would make the MBTA commuter rail far, far more useful as well as making Amtrak service possible to New York from my town. It would literally change the transportation mode that's best for my work commute from a strange semi-private bus line to commuter rail.

Lizzy

The most annoying thing about the blue/red connection is that the tracks used to connect, though the connection was never used in revenue service. Always one step forward, two steps back.

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ApemanMonkey

1y↑22

Missing transfer: Line 53 of the Amsterdam Metro literally passes underneath Duivendrecht Station, but doesn't stop there.

ApemanMonkey

@Nicolas Blume There's room to straighten the track.

Nicolas Blume

I guess one problem is that the platform would be curved a lot

Heimen Stoffels

1y↑5

Yes, that's one that irritates me a lot! Duivendrecht is an important station and there's plenty of room down there to build the Line 53 station, but nooooo.

commanderbluy

1y↑10

Melbourne has had a major missing link for 50+ years and it’s our route 59 tram it terminates in airport west. 5.9kms short of the international airport itself
The current terminus is a bit industrial and has low ridership. Extending the tram track the 6kms to the airport would have been a major trip generator. It’s so close!
Not to mention the closest rail station Jacana is only 6kms away from the airport. Both are so close!

Marc D

1y↑37

I’m glad you mentioned the Dorval one. The people living south of the 20 in dorval already have an underground pedestrian tunnel under the 20 to access the bus hub and train station easily. And they are currently starting to build denser in this area even though the transit is limited. Extending the rem there should’ve been a no brainer. They could’ve had the station align perpendicular to the 20 (under it). With the back end of the station providing an exit to the buses and the train. Meanwhile the front end provides access to dorval residents south of the 20

Anthony Sipos

1y↑1

Same here. The timeline for this is so frustrating too in terms of lack of engagement. People have been asking for it since the time the REM was announced. In 2019/2020 a study was commissioned by Marc Garneau and was super-delayed. It's finally out in August-2022 and shows definite ridership benefits over other types of connections. Plus with the potential Rapid Rail Corridor and even and the potential Lachine Tramway also going out to Dorval. It would be an absolute no brainer in terms of long term interconnectivity. So many missed opportunities to make something good really great! So frustrating. I've been trying, but it's like fighting the wind.

Thomas Horngacher

1y↑73

you are right, Berlin has several missing links in it's U-Bahn Network: U5 needs to be extended to Jungfernheide (Ringbahn) to create a complete east - west connection via the Hauptbahnhof. U3 needs to be connected to Mexikoplatz (S-Bahn North - South line). U1 needs to be expended in both ways to Ostkreuz and Hallensee (both Ringbahn) for a additional east - west connection. These are all not massive projects but they are postponed over and over again..

FirstDagger

@Tatratram ; It was an idea but SPD decided against it in 2020. The U9, Ring and S1 can be easily reached from the U4, a non-issue in my opinion.

FriedrichHerschel

1y↑1

What annoys me the most in Berlin is Warschauer Straße. A few years ago they rebuild the S-Bahn station ... and didn't bother to include the U-Bahn station. It remains a 200 meter walk over a bridge without any shielding from bad weather. Would have been very easy to build back then, but it's become basically impossible now without having to re-build the S-Bahn station.

Jake Rundell

@Eisenbahn ist Leben - Gaming The original plan for the U5 was to terminate at Tegel via Jungfernheide. But now with Tegel it might as well just end at Hauptbahnhof.

Martina Riehm

1y↑1

Oh well, now one comes to mind: U1 from Warschauer Straße to Frankfurter Tor. But now it is planned to extend it to Ostkreuz instead, so again, an S-Bahn connection.

Martina Riehm

1y↑3

I think most missing links in Berlin are between U and S-Bahn, probably because of West Berlins focus on U-Bahn and the S-Bahn boycott. Apart from the already mentioned Krumme Lanke -> Mexikoplatz, Osloer Straße -> Wollankstraße and Ruhleben -> Spandau, I think the most annoying missing link is the missing transfer between the North-South S-Bahn tunnel and Gleisdreck U-Bahn station. At some point it is planned to be fixed with the S-21 second North-South S-Bahn. But that will take a long time. I don't really know of any missing links within the U-Bahn network itself.

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Andries Kirstein

1y↑16

I was disappointed when the new Quebec City Tramway didn't connect to the airport. Overall, the alignment does a good job of connecting the densest parts of town, as well as giving people in the suburbs an option to take public transit into town. But it would have been a very short extension to continue to the airport. My understanding is that they plan to make this extension in the future, and I hope they do!

marianne richard

What complicate things is the airport is on a quite steep hill. The rail line just South is about 30 meters above the sea, while the airport is about 70 meters. It's OK for road trafic, but I'm not sure it would do for trains, unless they either do lengthy detour (more expropriations and a lot more trees to cut down) or tunnel their way under the airport (which would make the cost of the project skyrocket). The same problem arose when people asked why to East branch doesn't go all the way up to Charlesbourg... it's the same slope which run West to East from Neuville all the way to Montmorency falls, there's no way around it.

FinalBaton

Yes was just gonna write : to the train! Why it doesnt connect to Gare du Palais, baffles me!

RMTransit

1y↑1

Or IMO more importantly to the trains!

Ethan Daniel Burg

1y↑6

I still find it even more frustrating that the downtown portion doesn’t connect directly to the Gare du Palais. Tram extensions are relatively easily to build (although I guess nothing is that easy to build nowadays in Québec for political reasons). But I feel like not having a direct connection to your main train and intercity bus station along the route would be more difficult to fix.

Julian Pineros

1y↑29

In Toronto another missing link that’s just frustrating is line 4 not extending to at least Sheppard West…it would make it so much easier for people in the east of the city to get to places like York U, Yorkdale, Vaughan, etc

Stephen P

@Gavin Dreemurr / HDFlood_ ♪ the original plan for Sheppard was to run from Vic Park to Dufferin. It got trimmed down before construction began due to the recession in the early 90s and was nearly cancelled after Mike Harris took office in 1995. At one point, due to budget constraints, I believe there was talk of building the tunnels but not laying the tracks until some undetermined point in the future. In the end we got the truncated Sheppard "stubway". The platform at Yonge was built as it is to allow for increased capacity in the event the line is ever built through to at least Sheppard West.

As a side note, it's my understanding that all of the existing platforms were designed to allow for easy expansion in the event that ridership ever justifies the use of 6-car trains.

Bert Graef

think of them as health inducers, not missing links. It actually wouldnt hurt for many of you to hike a few blocks to the next station.

Gavin Dreemurr / HDFlood_ ♪

Line 4 is literally a twig sticking out of the Line 1, and it's baffling how much missed potential is there. It could have extended either way, but it's just this short route that seems like an afterthought of a subway line. To make things worse, one of its platforms at Sheppard-Yonge is just... out of commission???

RAH

1y↑2

i was thinking the same thing they could run a extra track down to yorkdale or run it north and or run a loop around whole system

Justin Griffiths

1y↑5

A little longer of a connection, in the Twin Cities of Minnesota they built a first commuter rail line that ended in a small town, instead of extending it to St. Cloud, MN which would have allowed a much larger population that would ride it. St. Cloud was their first plan, but it needed to get shortened to get federal money to be able to build it!!

The Trainspotter From Tauranga

1y↑12

The situation in Auckland, prior to Britomart's opening, was that passenger numbers were in sharp decline, so they had to move the city's main station back to a more central location. The previous station was in a poor location; around 1 kilometre from the city centre.

From what I gather, there was originally an above-ground station at the foot of Queen Street, but when the Beach Road station opened in 1930, a new post office was built on the site of the old station. Curiously that former post office building was incorporated into the new Britomart station.

If you ever do an explainer on the Auckland suburban network, I'd be happy to provide some of my footage from that system.

simon wood

1y↑3

The building of the Chief Post Office on Queen Street preceded the construction of the Beach Rd railway station by about 20 years. The CPO was built on part of the former above ground Britomart railway station which severely reduced its operational capability causing the NZ Railways to begin planning a new station for both long distance and suburban trains at Beach Rd, 1 km away from the bottom of Queen St. Unfortunately only stage 1 of the project was eventually built, with Stage 2 which was a tunnel under the University and central business district for suburban services being cancelled due to the Great Depression.

CobaltFox Plays

1y↑20

Still amazed they never extended the Sheppard Line from Sheppard to Sheppard West (Downsview). The awkward trip if you have to travel around Fairview Mall and then to York University... bus, train, bus, train... in the same city.

RMTransit

1y↑2

Yeah its really not great

Kevin Love

1y↑1

I would do that trip as train, train, bus, train. Sheppard line to Yonge, Yonge line to Finch Station, 939 Finch West Bus to Finch West Station, and then one stop north on the Spadina line to York University.

adamshiftyelso

1y↑2

Donschnulione

1y↑23

szoszk

1y↑2

@MarioFanGamer the 60s and 70s were centered around the car, so they started to build motorways in cities and at the time they had the choice of either not continuing the A100 or not continuing the U4. At the time the decision was obvious

MarioFanGamer

@szoszk Looking at a map, I'm actually surprised the U4 is this short, only beaten out by the then existing U55. Granted, it is physically connected to the U1 and U3 and thus one of the three branches of the eastern trunk line but still.

szoszk

1y↑1

@La Ville Nouvelle - Musique et Architecture Most of them. The S-Bahn on both sides of Berlin used to be operated by east German railways, which western Germans wanted to boycott and they focused on extensions of the Ubahn, ignoring S-Bahn connections. And some, like the U7 extension to the BER airport (then Schönefeld airport) was impossible, as it was in eastern Germany.

MarioFanGamer

1y↑1

@La Ville Nouvelle - Musique et Architecture Some of them are this. Warschauer Straße is the most obvious one since the border went parallel to the Spree and there is a sudden cut between it and the tramway. Others, however, are merely bad planning (e.g. the U2 to Spandau since Ruhleben and Spandau are both in the west).

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Tom Chen

1y↑8

One example I would like to mention about a "missing link" is the North Philadelphia complex. We have FOUR separate stations within three blocks: N. Phila of the NEC, N. Phila to Chestnut Hill W, N. Phila of the Broad Street subway, and North Broad. Building the complex and allowing people to interchange among the regional rail lines, the BSL, and Amtrak will be an amazing time-saver for traveling between the northern suburban area and other cities on the NEC since we won't need to take a detour to the center city. The Keystone and Pennsylvanian trains won't have to do the ridiculous reverse at 30th Street as well. This place used to and will have unimaginable potential, but it's nothing different from an abandoned station now - we even have overhead wire over nothing at all!

Beepbeep Lettuce

Eliminating the reverse move (then at Broad Street station) was in fact the reason the PRR built North Philadelphia in the first place. And given how much of a disgrace the NEC/Chestnut Hill station facilities are right now, any kind of major rebuild would be very welcome.

Michael Tajfel

1y↑4

The Battersea Power Station extension of the Northern line in London crosses the Victoria line (underground, above or below), but it was decided not to build an interchange station. It was also decided not to extend from Battersea Power Station to Clapham Junction. This National Rail station has more trains passing through than any other in Britain. Trains from Waterloo pass through the station, as well as trains from Victoria going south (not southeast). Those two main lines are not connected by rail. It is also a terminus for a London Overground line. It was decided that these projects would overload the tube lines.

Unlapras

In my opinion it makes sense to have no interchange with the Victoria as it would slow down both lines and the Northern offers more interesting connections than the Victoria (Waterloo, London Bridge, Bank, KSP).

However I agree not going to Clapham Junction is a big mistake.

ToadScoper

1y↑3

Boston has to be the world capital of “missing links”, the Red Line-Blue Line connector and the North Station-South station connection are among the most needed… of course, the MBTA is actively collapsing so it’s going to be a long time before these rail links are actually built…

MrFishmanman

1y↑20

For sure trains will have a reemergence in the near future when people will actually realize that the car is more tiresome than just going to a train station and just sit down and enjoy your day but governments really need to make the train more comfortable so that people will use trains instead of cars.

Matt McIrvin

One of the biggest sticking points is frequency: if you have to wait an hour to make a connection or as the penalty for a missed train, that's a huge obstacle.

MrFishmanman

1y↑2

@Zaydan Alfariz Respect Level 1953%

MrFishmanman

1y↑2

@Zaydan Alfariz Not just an average Railfan BUT A SUPREME RAILFAN.

MrFishmanman

1y↑2

@Zaydan Alfariz I Agree,If they want the people to switch to trains then they should ride trains like an average joe.

Ghislain Laframboise

1y↑3

jetjapan

1y↑4

Manila's LRT and MRT systems are full of missing links, in fact all of the lines never intersect even though they are extremely close to each other (like 100m walking distance)

Thomas Busse

1y↑5

A major missing link is the east end of the green line in Los Angeles which doesn’t connect to the Lossan commuter rail corridor. The city of Norwalk sued so the 105 freeway didn’t go to the 5, and this cut short the green line which has always been under used.

Xfel

1y↑1

The thing with the airport line in Montreal gets even weirder when you realize that the only thing between the new terminus and Dorval is parking lots.

Quintiliano-Carnevale Matheus

1y↑2

Metro de Madrid is finally fixing 2 missing links long demanded by users: Line 5 extension to Barajas International Airport, connecting it to Line 8, which will have some relief from crowds and it will give travellers more options reach the city centre while easing the lives of many of the airport workers who live along Line 5; and Line 3 extension to El Casar, connecting it to Line 12 and Cercanías rail services, which will help commuters from the heavily populated suburban cities south of Madrid. Both extensions will open in about 2 to 3 years as they are relatively short, just about 2km each, but largely awaited and will transform the way to move around Madrid and make the Metro a more attractive and competitive option!🥳🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸

La Ville Nouvelle - Musique et Architecture

1y↑2

In Rome, there are two kind of missing links.

1) the new Metro line C runs close to several different tramway lines, but there is no direct interchange between Metro and tramways. The easter terminal of lines 5 and 19 is just a few blocks away from two different stations of the Metro, but there is no proposal to move it closer to one of these stations. And another tramway corridor, who had a perfect interchange, was cut short and now has a 500 m gap.

2) There are two missing links between the Metro and regional rail, at Ponte Lungo/Tuscolana and Libia/Nomentana. In both cases, the Metro and Regional rail stops are 1-2 blocks away, but there is no direct link between them.

Hugo Fitzpatrick

1y↑5

Dublin's Luas Green Line and Red Line we're not linked between 2004 (opening of both) and December 2017, when the "Cross City" expansion of the green line finally addressed this comes to mind.

However, as the green line crosses the red at grade on O'Connell Street /Abbey Street/ Marlbrorough Street, it limits the capacity of both by creating a new conflict.

Our "Metrolink" project (currently in planning) also ends north of Swords at a P & R when there's a few km of open countryside north-east of it where it could meet the Northern Line railway at Donabate or Rush & Lusk....

DjS III

1y↑6

I thought the toronto example wouldve been the new Line 5 Crosstown which terminates in the east at Kennedy Station on Line 2 instead of extending 2.7km more to the east to the Eglinton go station on the Lakeshore East Go line. I think the potential connection between Line 5 and the go line would be incredible for Scarborough and Durham region. Yes they connect later at danforth but that is very far away and no longer in central Scarborough or Scarborough at all.

Rémi Cardona

1y↑8

Unlapras

You forgot line 3 which won't connect with line 15 at Bécon-les-Bruyères. Same goes with line 12 which stops at Mairie d'Issy, only 700 m or so from line 15.

It's a shame connections with existing lines were not included as part of the Grand Paris Express program.

Jonathan Goff

1y↑9

Los Angeles’ Green line not going to LAX was a major fail.

Geotpf

1y↑1

At least this is finally being fixed with interlining with the K Line.

Jonathan Goff

1y↑2

@1978dkelly That too is a major issue.

1978dkelly

1y↑5

The cabbies' unions squelched it, as they did in NYC with a subway line to LaGuardia. Also, consider how the Green line falls a few miles short of reaching Norwalk/Santa Fe Springs Transportation Center at the other end.

Andy

1y↑2

The worst part about the Boston one is that this missed connection between Red and Blue lines USED TO EXIST. We demolished it back in the age of scaling back streetcar services.

Daoji

1y↑4

I often get frustrated with the Northern Line extension in London… had they just bridged the gap between Battersea power station and Clapham junction it would have provided so much more access

David Bailey

I’ve heard it said that there’s a socioeconomic reason here. Battersea is posh and rich, but Clapham is less so. Those rich people don’t want to mix with their poorer counterparts, so this line will never be built. Not sure how much truth there is in this, but it’s an intriguing question that needs to be explored.

Ege Şanlı

1y↑2

Nate

1y↑12

Another good example on the Washington DC metro are Farragut North and Farragut West stations which run right next to each other under the same plaza. To transfer, you have to take the escalator all the way to the surface and then go down again, all while paying another fare!

Douglas Graebner

anyhow as long as we're complaining about NPS and metro shout-out to their veto of a train bridge through Rock Creek Park pushing the red line annoyingly deep underground and killing an Adams-Morgan station.*

*Yes I know Woodley Park-Zoo is called that, sorry if you have to walk 15 minutes across the bridge to get there it does not count.

Richard Bourne

You do not have to pay another fare. If you transfer at Farragut North/West with a tap card your second journey is calculated as a continuation of the first.

Patrick Shelton

1y↑9

You don’t have to pay another fare! The Farragut Crossing is a great alternative to transferring at Metro Center. Of course a tunnel would be better, but it’s no big deal when the weather is nice. A single Farragut Square station was originally planned but the National Park Service wouldn’t allow construction on the park. WMATA has conducted studies on adding a tunnel and it could happen in the not-so-distant future.

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Will Neverforgets

1y↑7

Line 3 In Madrid is being extended south to reach and connect to line 12 in Getafe, a 1 station 3km extension that will end one major missing link in Madrid Metro, that will increase the connectivity for 1million people. Scheduled to open end of 2023/beginning of 2024

RMTransit

1y↑1

Very exciting for Madrid! See my Madrid Metro video if you have not ;)

Sam Aronow

1y↑4

I'm surprised by the lack of mention of the gap between the Blue/Expo and Gold Lines through Downtown Los Angeles. Previously one had to transfer twice using the Red/Purple lines, creating huge pedestrian bottlenecks at 7th Street and Union Station. The regional connector is finally opening this year and will make it so that there are two continuous lines from Santa Monica to East LA and Pasadena to Long Beach respectively, with no fewer than five same-platform transfer stations. Weirdly, the very same problem existed in the Pacific Electric days, with there being no direct connection between the terminals at 4th/Hill and 6th/Main, only five blocks apart.

RMTransit

1y↑2

The regional connector being nearly done is the main reason I don't mention. I also think the lines will still suffer from a lot of issues.

Spinelli

1y↑5

obligatory "chicagoan here" but as a chicagoan, the way the brown line doesnt link up with the blue on the northwest side is insane to me. and the lack of a true crosstown feels like a something of a missing link, too

Vincent Ng

1y↑1

I also can't understand why there is no L link connecting the major commuter train stations.

Kurt

1y↑18

A REM extension to Dorval would integrate well with future HFR as well. Since there are no international flights from Ottawa, travelers could book direct flights from Montreal and get there by rail without the need for a connecting flight.

Anthony Sipos

@Mathieu Lessard . Yar... I know about the removal of the TBM, but oddly the study mentions that reusing the original TBM would be more expensive than a new one? I am questioning Transport Canada about this because it does not make sense, but have not received answer yet. Have a look at and search for "dorval intermodal study transport canada" and you will find the study with the options (you can download it). This study focuses on connecting the potential future rapid rail station to the airport using various options including the REM/Light Rail. The study was commissioned in 2020 but only really took place in 2022...

Mathieu Lessard

@Anthony Sipos They already removed the tunnel boring machine so I think it is unlikely.

Anthony Sipos

1y↑1

Absolutely. There is so much potential here and I fear the more this gets pushed asides, as was stated here, the more complicated it will become to implement in the future. The YUL REM station is now only slated to open in 2027. This should be ample time to plan to continue to Dorval. Then in the Lachine tramway connects to Dorval as suggested by some studies, it would really close the loop.

Anthony Sipos

1y↑1

@Darcy yes please do. I have been trying to push this with both the Federal MP and Provincial MNA for some time now. Ultimately it falls onto the federal jurisdiction more than provincial because of the airport and rail (VIA)... though there are some provincial and municipal aspects too (EXO, Bus). There has been a study out (lookup dorval intermodal study transport canada), but again seems to be falling flat. People all should mobilize on this because it so close, yet seems very unlikely to happen in the short mid/term.

Darcy

1y↑3

I’m pretty sure there’s still time to do this extension but I haven’t a clue if there’s political will. Time to call my provincial representative (I live nearby).

Bima Indrajati Tjahja

1y↑2

Would love to get your take on Jakarta's public transport, very confusing, and chaotic but to my understanding has decent coverage between its multiple modes

Equilat

1y↑3

I totally agree with what you said. "The next best time is now", is so true, especially for "small" missing links which are easy to make from the beginning. This made me think about a video topic : "How to properly scale your transit project?". I bet it's not an easy question to answer but this is critical. You'll always need to balance between the service your project should offer and the time it gets to reach this level of service. Too small ambitions are not great but too big and not properly framed ones may lead to just no project at all.

anindra pratama

1y↑6

Hey Reece, check out Dukuh Atas, one of Jakarta’s “flagship” transit hubs, it is split by a river, the Suburban LRT Station and Terminus for BRT Corridors 4 and 6 to the MRT and KRL Stations (+Airport express train) is 200 to 500m apart. Other places include CSW which took 4 years until a interchange facility is finally built between Corridor 13 elevated busway, BRT Corridor 1 and MRT NS Line (it also came with some controversial bus reroutings to generate more interchange traffic in CSW) . Kebayoran Lama Station is finally getting a footbridge to connect with BRT Corridors 8 and 13.

Sometimes connections like this are an afterthought here with most solutions being long footbridges

Greg l

1y↑12

This sounds a lot like in Boston where the new MBTA Green Line that only goes to Union Square when it could have been extended 0.5 miles to Porter to allow for easy transfers to the Red Line.

Matt McIrvin

The Union Square branch of the new extension is such a strange little appendix.

brilliantgenius1

I've thought long and hard about this one and I think it's because that connection already exists via the commuter rail. Perhaps they didn't want to overload the Union Square branch with commuters trying to take a shortcut

Kalan ‎

1y↑2

Moscow: lines 8 and 8A are intended to be parts of one line, they’re even numbered this way and are both yellow on the map. But connecting them requires difficult construction in the dense city center, so it is always postponed, and instead, long lines are constructed in the now-nowhere (as they yield more kilometers and other big numbers that can be proudly reported). To be fair, line 6 and line 7 were also each split into two before being joined in the center, but not for that long, and these were Soviet times anyway.

Also importantly missing are interchanges to Polyanka from line 6, Kitay-Gorod from line 3 and Dostoyevskaya from line 5 (circle), but the last one is under construction (again, after years of freezing and unfreezing it, but this time it all feels unexplainably more certain).

Steve Boland

1y↑8

Happy New Year, Reece. One theme you touched on here but I think deserves highlighting is that rapid transit planning has tended to shortchange regional rail connections. This is partly, I think, because existing regional/commuter service can be so infrequent. But you can see another great example of this shortsightedness in LA, where the C (Green) Line stops just short of the LOSSAN (/future high speed rail) corridor. That corridor is now the rail spine of Orange County, and that gap has been depriving OC residents of a link* to LAX for decades (*via shuttle due to a missed connection on the other end, although this is in the process of being rectified).

BB63

I was just about to mention the missing link to Norwalk/ LOSSAN corridor in later comments. That little gap in the C/Green line has been driving my transit map enthusiast self just a bit insane ever since I learned about the LA metro

Martina Riehm

Came here to say this. It seems to be a widespread phenomenon, also in Berlin with the missing U-Bahn - S-Bahn connections and many other that were mentioned here. Probably it is also that different agencies are responsible for planning regional rail and rapid transit so they just don't care or maybe don't really know about it.

Clarence Innes

1y↑2

This is why I'm so happy that the Broadway Subway extension is underway now in Vancouver.

Beepbeep Lettuce

1y↑1

I was waiting for you to mention the Blue Line at Bowdoin. One of the most frustrating missing links in North America imo

Liggliluff

1y↑1

You had an interesting point about how a terminus is different from a regular station. This isn't something I've noticed in Stockholm. A terminus just feels like any other station, with the only difference being that there's often a train waiting there instead of you having to wait for the train to come.

There are other stations on the route that can work as a terminus, where the main platform is split with an extra track inbetween. A different design that required planning in advance. But terminuses aren't built like that.

agv

1y↑12

Hey, Reece! Congrats for your work, keep it up!
Could you maybe one day do a video on the subway of Nuremberg, Germany? Given it's not the biggest city, the more interesting I think it is that they have their own Metro. Which of course is rather small in length, but still, not an unimportant thing.
Cheers and thanks in advance!

Jan Lukas

1y↑1

And it is the only one on Germany to be automated!

CANLEAF08⌘

1y↑1

Nuremberg is the capital of Franconia. The Weisser Turm station is interesting, one of it’s entrances is in a old tower.

RMTransit

1y↑3

Eventually yes!

Dan Coleman

1y↑4

Observations from London!
There are many missing links and missed opportunities across the TfL network. One reason for this is simply because the network was built by separate private companies. There are lots of examples of lines crossing or near to each other with no interchange, or two stations serving exactly the same area but requiring a walk to transfer.

While the newest lines in London have done a reasonable job at connecting everything together, there seems to be a frustrating policy of 'just get the customer as close as possible' when it comes to planning. Or in other words, focus on the destination, not the interchange. There are now 3 stations called Canary Wharf. None of them are physically connected to each other and require a walk through a labyrinth of shopping centres to interchange. Yes sure, there may have been physical geographic limitations at this site, but imagine if they were all one glorious station! (A man can dream).

SB Trains, Planes and Drives

The HS2 Platforms at Old Oak Common will be very close to the Central Line - maybe a moving walkway job?

Joe Grey

@Daniel Martin not providing a through link between HS1 and HS2 is understandable - even with the link, customs, and the sheer impossibility of providing a frequent enough service to all the branches would make it unviable. But there needs to be a better pedestrian link between EUS and STP/KGX. At Birmingham it's difficult, again no big advantage of providing a rail link (there are better links further along the line) and you don't want to move New St out of the centre, so a better pedestrian link between the 3 stations would be more appropriate.

Daniel Martin

1y↑3

@Davidty 2006 Oof. HS2 has a fair few missing links. On the london side thankfully they didn't just terminate at old oak common, but sadly by not connecting it to St Pancras our two high speed systems are not actually connected to each other (and it's a good 10min walk between Euston and St Pancras). And then on the Birmingham side it's fully understandable that New Street has no extra capacity but building a completely new terminus station less than a km from New Street with no actual connection to New Street or the rest of the Birmingham network feels a bit....short sighted.

Davidty 2006

1y↑2

There might be another situation at old oak common with HS 2....

Picotago

1y↑30

Paris also has a missing link: Line ends one kilometre south from the RER B station “La Courneuve Aubervilliers”. There is already a tunnel to this station, but it’s only used to store trains.

olivier legendre

@Ethan Daniel Burg Oui 3 min max de marche.
Et en effet sur le branche Ivry de la 7 y a plusieurs solutions pour rejoindre la C, au "pire" le bus vers biblio FM.
Avec le prolongement de la 14, l'ouverture de la 15, le trambus t Zen 5 et la fin des perturbations sur la C ce sera le grand luxe du coté d'Ivry et de Vitry (~2026) grâce en particulier à toutes les alternatives possibles.
La marche ça fait du bien aussi...

Ethan Daniel Burg

@olivier legendre Il me semble que l’arrêt du T3 à l’Avenue de France est aussi à quelques minutes à pied de la gare de la bibliothèque François-Mitterand. Sinon, c’est effectivement possible de marcher dehors entre deux stations qui sont à quelques centaines de mètres l’une de l’autre, mais c’est moins agréable (surtout s’il ne fait pas beau dehors) et moins de gens sont susceptibles de vouloir faire une correspondance comme ça.

Par contre, avec le prolongement de la ligne 14 et la construction de la ligne 15, il sera bientôt possible de faire :

-M7→M14 (Tolbiac)→RER C (Bibliothèque F-M)
-M7→M15 (Villejuif Louis Aragon)→RER C (Les Ardoines)

Mais je sais pas si ce serait vraiment plus pratique que de marcher dehors pendant quelques minutes quand il fait beau.

olivier legendre

@Ethan Daniel Burg M7 - RER C à Ivry... pas un problème car tram T3 à station porte d'Ivry sur les Maréchaux jusqu'à Bibliotheque FM, de plus le RER C à Ivry est à 5 minutes à pied du métro...
Sur une carte ça peut sembler être une occasion perdue mais dans la réalité c'en est pas une...

Ethan Daniel Burg

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Samir Gillespie

1y↑1

Even there could be a further extension to mairie de La Courneuve for an extension to the T1 but bref haha

Folk Punk Fist Fuck

1y↑11

Before I watch this,the most short sighted one for me is the missing connection of the Red Line to the Blue line for the MBTA. You have the space at Charles/MGH Station,why do I have to leave the station,walk 2 blocks,and hop on at Bowdoin Staion? Or hop on a different line and get onto the Blue Line? It makes my commute take longer and I have to take 3 trains instead of 2. I hope with Maura Healey being elected governor last year,she owns up to her promise of fixing the MBTA,but I have little hope

Edit:thank you so much for talking about this,it really puts a damper on my commute from Quincy to the Airport

elefante

1y↑1

@Chris de Leon definitely, although I don’t think SL phase III (which would be super expensive, and was partly cancelled due to that) would really fix the issues with it (mixed traffic running). Alas, I don’t think light rail will happen anytime soon. Hopefully washington street gets something better at some point.
Definitely want to be hopeful about Healy!

Chris de Leon

@elefante interestingly the Silver Line is NOT complete as it was designed. The underground busway was supposed to have a portal past South Station to unify all the branches but officials couldn’t settle on a location. I hope they one day handle this outpoint. Having said that I think the one of the biggest issues the T faces is the lack of a Red-Blue connection. I hope this new Governor will be true to her word and find matching funding with Mass Brigham and finally extend the Blue Line to Charles/MGH.

elefante

1y↑1

@Doug in Los Angeles Not OP but while the silver line is useful, it’s very slow and gets stuck in crushing traffic due to horrific design decisions. It’s BRT at its worst. Even with the airport shuttle (if one were going to the airport from RL), a red blue connection would be miles faster. Also, the lack of red blue connection doesn’t just mean bad airport commutes for those along the RL. More important imo is the lack of access to job centers in Cambridge (Kendall Sq primarily) for (predominantly EJ) communities along the BL.

Folk Punk Fist Fuck

@Doug in Los Angeles good question! The Silver Line goes right towards the main terminal,what you see when going into our out of Logan International,but where I work at is right next to Airport Station on the blue line,which would mean I take the shuttle from where the silver line is to the Blue line,it really is 6 in one hand and half a dozen in the other

Doug in Los Angeles

Why doesn't the MBTA Silver Line (South Station to Airport) solve the Quincy to Airport commute for you? That's a single transfer, with no additional fare, in one station, running directly to all Logan terminals, with nice luggage racks, and I've used it for years, with and without luggage. Granted, it doesn't get you to the remote hangars near the Blue line, if that's where you actually work, but I'm constantly amazed how this existing connection is overlooked by Reece and his audience, in spite of its good fit for the many travelers who live along the Red Line. Before this line existed, Red Line airport passengers had to triple connect, hauling luggage up and down stairs and on and off overcrowded shuttle buses, the misery of which was designed (yes, designed!) to push people into taxicabs clogging the tunnels.

Ewan Cartwright

1y↑6

There's an example on the London Underground which highlights a few issues I don't think you mentioned: the new Northern line extension to Battersea Power Station Station maddeningly terminates there instead of a short distance west at the major rail interchange Clapham Junction.
The problem is that making the connection is almost too good an idea, the already complicated and congested Northern Line would be totally overwhelmed by commuters.

Franz-Josef Christbaumer

Not to mention a potential Victoria Line interchange at / south of Vauxhall and the (also officially voiced) overcrowding/congestion (amplification) worries concerning that line.

Franz-Josef Christbaumer

@Theo Brigham Because of the humungous Crossrail platform lengths, it is less a question of inserting an additional station, rather than one of interposing a (moving) walkway from the mezzanine of—capacity expansion needing—Oxford Circus over to Elizabeth's Hanover Sq approach.

Theo Brigham

1y↑1

Elizabeth Line skipping Oxford Circus also comes to mind

KamalTV

1y↑14

Here in the DMV, I've thought that the WMATA Red Line could form a complete loop connecting the Glenmont and Shady Grove ends. It would face massive NIMBY opposition but would create new trip opportunities for cross Montgomery County Travel (Rockville to Sliver Spring), and relief/alternatives if problems arise on either portion of the Red Line "U".

KamalTV

@nitehawk86 there is a one track connection at Ft. Totten from the outbound RD to the outbound GR/YL track. In the 90s when the GR line was under construction through DC, the portion from Ft. Totten to Greenbelt was actually finished and detoured onto RD using that one track (and the switches on each line) to end at Farragut North. They called it the Green+ Rush Hour Service or something to that effect until GR was finished through the city. WMATA could theoretically revive that service as a new line color, but since the connection is only one track, it would likely cause some issues.

There's also another one of these from OR/BL/SV to RD around the Farragut North and West stations. It connects the Westbound OR/BL/SV to northbound RD.

Joseph Ruhf

That is not the only missing link here in Maryland. When the Western Maryland Railroad disappeared, so did the direct passenger link from east to west. The funny thing is none of the trip opportunities it created really disappeared with it. In fact, the Western Maryland College expanded in spite of it being less convenient to come there.

nitehawk86

The red line is so bizarre to me. Are there depots at either end of it, or just one? Can it even function as 2 separate lines? Also, is there any way for trains to jump from the main network to the red line at Fort Totten? I have never been that far out on the Red/Green/Yellow lines.

ChasMusic

1y↑1

The Marin/Sonoma SMART train lets you off at Larkspur Station about a half-mile walk from the ferry to San Francisco. There's a bike/walking path through the tunnel, so you could continue to walk the three miles to San Rafael (and I have done so).

HenryMidfields

1y↑4

Unfortunately, there are many locations across Melbourne's tram network with tram terminuses that comes near railway stations, but are still too far away for any viable transfers. Most of them could be done with only 1-2km extensions of the tram tracks, without any massive excavations etc.

RMTransit

1y↑1

Yeah this is a particularly crazy example!

Flarelia

1y↑16

6:13 - A GTA one, the Hurontario LRT and the Kitchener line. Because the Brampton City Council has spent so long infighting about what route the Connection should take that they’ve just gone ahead and are building it without the connection.

Flarelia

@RMTransit What should they have done instead along that route in your view?

RMTransit

1y↑2

Its not great, but neither was LRT on that route

ziggypwner

1y↑7

Southern California is rife with these mixed connections imho, besides the obvious LAX one:
-The Silver Line El Monte miss
-The Green Line Norwalk/Norwalk Santa Fe Springs

Daniel Brockert

1y↑4

The Los Angeles C line is right next to LAX, but they never bothered to connect it all the way. The Los Angeles B line is like a mile from Burbank airport and the Burbank Metrolink station, but they never connected it all the way. The current purple line extension only goes to the VA hospital and doesn't make it to the ocean. It's pretty infuriating because they simply don't think about the bigger picture in Los Angeles.

Daniel Brockert

1y↑1

@Geotpf That's a non-network oriented way of looking at it. In order to take the Expo line to the sea, you need to be at the Expo line. That isn't very useful to people on Wilshire boulevard. I think you're thinking about funding in the wrong way. We need a 200 to 300 billion dollar subway expansion in LA. We need a massive expansion. Los Angeles is one of the richest cities in the world. The United States is the richest country in the world. I always hear poverty oriented arguments from Americans when talking about transit. If poorer countries can do it America can too.

Geotpf

1y↑1

The C should finally connect with the LAX people mover when the K Line is finished (sharing tracks). The end of the B is more like 2 or 3 miles from the Burbank Metrolink and it obviously already connects at Union Station. As for the "Subway to the Sea", that was probably never going to happen. Expo Line already serves the beach, and there's not that much of note between the ocean and the VA hospital. Things like the Sepulveda Line are much more important to spend limited monies on.

imWSss

1y↑8

During the construction of Beijing Subway Line 2 and Shanghai Metro Line 4 (both circle line), some transfer nodes for future planned routes were reserved, but due to the rapid development, some newly added lines needed to transfer with Beijing Line 2 and Shanghai Line 4, but they cannot be heavily re-constructed cause it's in downtown Beijing and Shanghai, resulting in the situation of super-long transfer walk like Beijing Xi'erqi and Shanghai Yishan Road station

Richard Bourne

@imWSss Beijing's Second Ring is a sunken urban expressway. It passes below most other traffic.

Line 2 makes all connections(except line 19). It doesnt miss anything, but like many of Beijing's interchanges, the connections are extremely poor.

Many missed connections have been rectified, like the PEK airport line being extended to Beixinqiao, a new station being added to line 10 for Zhichunlu, and the Fahngshan line being extended to line 16.

Beijing's subway has a lot of problems(and gets a lot right though) missed connections arent one of them.

imWSss

@RMTransit For example, Beijing Line 2 was completed in 1984, and this line basically ran along Beijing's Second Ring Road, which was transformed into an elevated urban expressway in 1992; Shanghai Metro Line 4 passes through Lujiazui in Pudong, a financial center that has gone from a wasteland to a skyscraper-strewn city in 20 years, and it also passes through the dense residential buildings and other elevated expressways of Shanghai, and also shares a section with Line 3. Although major renovation is still possible, but for these two lines the cost is unacceptable. There are plans for renovation and construction of some newer lines, but not changing these older lines itself. In fact, there are examples in Shanghai and Beijing where existing lines were renovated, such as the Shanghai South Railway Station on Shanghai Metro Line 1, which was initially an above-ground station located on the north side of Shanghai South Railway Station with no interchange, but due to the upgrading and complete redevelopment of the railway station itself and the opening of Metro Line 3 south of the station, just ten years after the opening of Metro Line 1 on 2004, the above-ground station on Line 1 was abandoned and a better located underground station with direct interchange between Line 1 and Line 3 was rebuilt. But at that time the ridership of the Shanghai metro network was not as exaggerated as it is today, and the surrounding buildings had to be built together, so the cost was reasonable. The situation was very different from other lines.

RMTransit

1y↑1

I'm skeptical than being downtown precludes reorganization. It has happened many times in London for example.

Precisa Disso?

1y↑2

In my local transit system of São Paulo, there aren't any obvious missing links yet, but I fear it might be happening in some planned future lines, especifically with Line 16- Violet since it terminates just one station short of a potential connection to the future lines 20 and 22, it's plans are well integrated to the current grid but seem to lack the foresight to connect to these future lines.

665HP

1y↑2

In the Bay Area (Oakland), there is a missed connection between BART's 4 SF lines and 3-4 Amtrak Routes (Capitol Corridor, San Joaqins, Coast Starlight, California Zephyr(the trains already travel here on their way to and from the yard)) at I-880 and 7th st. It would provide Amtrak riders quick, direct access to both San Francisco and Oakland.

David Jackson

1y↑3

There are four systems I am interested in: ACE, SMART, Frontrunner, & Rail Runner. I would like to see you do some of your insightful reporting on any of these.

MarioFanGamer

1y↑1

I also think the Dresdner Bahn is also a case of a missing link but on a larger scale scale: It's one of the lines which goes south of Berlin and as implied, it goes from Dresden to Berlin but was largely deactivated within the border of Berlin except for the S-Bahn. For such an important connection, there was no direct way so all the trains have to drive on the outer ring to get to Dresden. It's in the process of getting ractivated, though, which is why there is so much construction on that line.

Steam Suhonen

1y↑9

The Helsinki Metro extension to the west was just completed last year, but it is just a few km short of meeting the main commuter railway link to the west at Kauklahti.

Rick Townend

1y↑1

Absolutely!! - I wonder if there is a kind of intertia in the brains of transport designers, which leads them to design only what is in their comfort zone, rather than looking at what passengers want, or will want when the system is opened. Great video

eechauch

1y↑2

Here in Augsburg there are two that I think are quite glaring. Line 1 stops quite randomly, just 1.3km short of connecting with line 6 and 1.5km before connecting to the Hochzoll regional rail station. Even worse, line 6 stops ~1.2km short of Friedberg and 1.5km short of Friedberg regional rail station, ending in the middle of nowhere, instead of connecting to the city proper and all the bus lines going out to the different villages.

Caleb Law

1y↑4

What has been bothering me for a long time is the Amtrak terminal for San Francisco Bay Area is at Emeryville, a place with no other connections other than buses. The ideal case is to extend across the San Francisco Bay to the new Salesforce Transit Center in downtown San Francisco. If that is not possible, at least it should be extended to Oakland and connect to the BART subway system

Caleb Law

1y↑1

The California Zephyr to Chicago uses Emeryville for its terminus and doesn't go to Oakland Jack London Square

tiga2001

I thought the major Amtrak terminal for Bay Area is Oakland Jack London Square. At least that's where the Coast Starlight stops to drop off trash and pick up supplies. Which Amtrak train uses Emeryville for its terminal? And yeah, the lack of connection between railroad and BART is laughable in Alameda County. At least it's been rectified in SF.

DFW Rail Videos

I remember developing my own transit map for a fictional city (just for fun) and had a 'missing link' between stations. I put myself in the eyes of a commuter that lived on one side and needed to go to the other, but had to take a large journey that took them out of their way. I designed a shuttle service between the two stations as it would better connect this fictional city, and it just made sense.
I'd like to suggest a video about weekday peak services, as I don't really know how beneficial or not beneficial they are, and it could clear up confusion about it. DART has a weekday peak service and some of my friends are always saying "they should extend the Orange Line up to Parker Road with the Red Line" even though the ridership doesn't justify it.

Great video RMTransit! Keep these videos coming.

Vincent Ng

1y↑1

In Vancouver, a streetcar link between Main Street-Science World and Olympic Village (possibly adding Granville Island) would be a tourism booster.

Derg_txt

There exist a whole missing section in Hanover, Germany. It is called the D-Tunnel, a proposed 4th tunnel for the lightrail that should've connected Ahlem with the Central Station and later be extended to the Eastside exposition grounds and lift pressure from the C-Tunnel line. They can still construct the tunnel line because the the 2 (actually 3) needed stations dedicated stations: "Steintor" and "Hauptbahnhof/Central Station" (and "Marienstraße" for that extension).

Berber Bro

1y↑4

In Amsterdam you have the local famous missing link between Islolatorweg Station (Terminus lines 50/51) en Amsterdam Centraal. First proposed as a neat circle line for Amsterdam, the terminus falls now about 5km short, and as a result Islolatorweg Station is now in the "middle of nowhere". Various studies are now underway to complete this circle.

Berber Bro

@Jelmer ter Burg did not know that, but that makes this an even weirder situation.

Jelmer ter Burg

1y↑1

What I find most perplexing about this situation is that years after line 50 was built, with full knowledge of the original plan for a circle line, they decided to connect line 52 at Amsterdam Centraal to the existing platform for lines 51/53/54 via transfer walkways that are directly in the way of extending line 51 westward. 🤯

NC

1y↑6

As you mentioned, there are a few of these places in Berlin. The most annoying one is how the U3 isnt connected to the S1 in the south east despite Krumme Lanke and Mexikoplatz stations being only a few hundred meters apart. Luckily, this is the Ubahn extension most likely to happen right now; works are supposed to start in 2026 and finished in 2030 but you never now with Berlins construction projects (looking at you BER airport)

Adam Murphy

1y↑6

Melbourne Metro Tunnel and the lack of a station at South Yarra, to connect with the existing one. Also the multiple Melbourne tram lines that terminate agonizingly short of rail station, due to historical reasons!

Adam Murphy

1y↑1

@aussieJJDude there’s just so many

aussieJJDude

I'd say one of the easiest ones would be connecting the upfeild line to the Craigieburn line. Both Craigieburn and Roxxie are so overcrowded, and allowing alternatives to get into the city on one of the lowest commuter lines seems still like a massive oversight!

RMTransit

Missed connection I'd say

klugshicer

Not exactly a missing link, but something similar: In the Zürich S-Bahn network, there is are two platforms on the main station with two tracks each (Bahnhof Museumsstrasse). One station away is Stadelhofen. Every train that passes through Museumsstrasse either comes from or continues to Stadelhofen. But for some reason Stadelhofen only has three tracks. So naturally Stadelhofen eventually became to small and now has to be expanded at a massive cost. It would‘ve been much cheaper to build four tracks to start with.

Michael Haggerty

1y↑1

In Philadelphia SEPTA'S Route 15 trolley line runs a mainly east to west path mainly along Girard Avenue from the Delaware River on the east edge of the city to almost the far western edge of the city. At both ends there are loops to allow the trolleys to turn around to traverse the route in both directions, but the loop at the western end leaves it just over a mile from SEPTA's 69th Street Transportation Center which is a major transportation hub with connections to The Market-Frankford line, the Norristown High Speed Line, the 101 and 102 Trolleys that travel far out into the adjacent Delaware County, and a large number of both city and suburban bus routes. I've often wondered why the Route 15 line was not extended that last mile to that Transportation Center.

enrico

sometimes i watch your videos just for the trains footage, it's always great

Rob Allen

1y↑1

Happy New Year from Berlin! I'm just back from Berlin (and Warsaw) and the connections are amazing between Ubahn and Sbahn. I found the system great to use and yes there were some very odd connections, in particular, the region around Ostkruez, which was east Berlin, so much has been done but still, some baffling missing links that anyone would think to be obvious early fix. Warsaw has only 2 Metro Lines and a fantastic tram Light rail system. Looking forward to your review of this system that is being steadily constructed

Richard Morley

1y↑1

Here in Madrid, Line 5's eastern terminus is just 1.7 km from the airport. Madrid airport is connected by metro, but on another, distant line (8). New lines are being constructed elsewhere in the city, it should be obvious to provide another route to the airport, particularly when it's almost there already. Maybe one day.

Cárdenas R.

1y↑7

México City Metro has two missing links that might actually relieve crowded lines: line B from Buenavista to Colegio Militar connecting with line 2 and line 8 from Garibaldi to Indios Verdes helping the overcrowding on line 3.

Both segments would really help the two most used lines in the system and have been thought about for decades.

Warren Gibson

1y↑4

How about the 2km gap between Caltrain’s current San Francisco terminal and the fancy new terminal with its empty platforms?

Luc1d

1y↑4

I swear the fact Boston hasn’t extended the blue line to connect to the Red line is just so frustrating

Jeff Kardos Jr.

Also it should be extended to Lynn.

Alex Butragueño

My example is the connection between line 3 and line 12 on the Madrid Metro, it enables a second connection for the isolated line 12 and connecting the actually pretty close zones of Getafe and Villaverde.
It also enables a transfer with Cercanias C3 regional train so its a no brainer for just one station.

Im glad it's finally happening!

Stroll & Roll

1y↑1

This is exactly what most people forget about construction. The cheapest option is always now!

Janek Cabak

1y↑2

In Warsaw, there’s a really frustrating case of the M2 line not having connection to the northern SKM (Warsaw’s S-bahn type train) branch with not one, but two missed opportunities to do so. First, the M2 eastern branch really lacks just a one station to have a connection to Warszawa Toruńska SKM station (distance from the current Bródno terminus is just about 1,2km).
Second, I think even more absurd one, at the point where metro and suburban rail cross, two metro stations Szwedzka and Targówek Mieszkaniowy, were built on two sides of the railway, but both in a just a bit too long distance from Warszawa Targówek train station. Neither of those provide a convenient transfer.
And both Warszawa Targówek and M2 eastern expansion were opened in a period of just 2 years from each other. Really poor planning

Peter Smyth

1y↑5

I live relatively close to London, but only occasionally often come across places you've featured in videos. This year I've been to both Boston and Tokyo, and seen things featured here, including the annoying lack of connection between the red and blue lines.

Douglas Graebner

One DC example that hasn't been mentioned is Gallery Place-Chinatown and Metro Center, two major transfer stations that are extremely close but have no internal direct connection that would let you transfer between Blue/Orange/Silver and Green/Yellow. It's not as huge of a deal because there's a direct transfer station at L'Enfant for those lines but it would be a bit useful for reducing crowding and would be a nice pedestrian shortcut in cases of bad weather or not wanting to transfer for a single block on the Red Line say.

Jeff W

1y↑6

In Stockholm, Roslagsbanan is planned to extend to the city center, but it should connect to Saltsjöbanan through the city, an additional distance of 1.6 km. However, there are major obstacles, such as you would need to tunnel under water AND the old city. Plus the two lines have different gauges, and the Saltsjöbanan terminus Slussen is currently under major recontruction.

blubbedidoing

1y↑2

Not a missing link, but a missed initial infrastructure extension:
The Zürich (Switzerland) S-Bahn system was opened in 1989. For that, the station at Stadelhofen was extended from 2 to 3 tracks. Adding a 4th track would have cost only 30 Million more, but they didn't do it. Now the station runs at capacity and the 4th track has to be added for 1.5 Billion.

RMTransit

1y↑1

Yeah that project is crazy!

bloody doll !! 💫 🍥

1y↑2

this video made me realise that extending finch west and extending the sheppard line would get toronto very close to having some radial connectivity and that is pretty annoying that they aren't being extended

ts ts

This is so true!!! And we have tons of examples!!!
In Valencia, the new #10 line has been built from Natzaret to the new Alacant station, which allows to reach on foot both the AVE station "Estacion de Bailen" and the regular train "Estacion del Nord", but does not provide any integrated connection with any of them. Also, this Alacant station does not connect with the existing metro network. It should be extended to reach Plaça de España, which is just 800 meters away.

Blue387

1y↑7

This reminds me of the 7 Train extension to Hudson Yards here in NYC, they didn't build a station at 10th Avenue between Hudson Yards and Times Square

Blue387

1y↑2

@RMTransit if I had Elon Musk money I would throw it at public transit instead of rockets for billionaires

RMTransit

1y↑2

Indeed, a real missed opportunity

1978dkelly

1y↑3

It was considered, but dropped to... you guessed it... save costs.

Ethan Daniel Burg

1y↑2

I feel like a 7 train station at the Port Authority Bus Terminal would have also been very useful.

A To Z By Local Bus

1y↑2

When the Luas tram system opened in Dublin, Ireland, it had a missing link between the red lines and the green line. This was due to a new grovement getting in, and change the orginal plans, that would have seen tree lines being built, and meeting together on O'Connell street.

Michael O'Rourke

1y↑2

The two lines opened in 2004 with a 15-20 minute walk between them, and eventually was connected together 13 years later in 2017. The interchange still isn't great though, about 5 minutes walk. I think we're bad at interchanges in general, some proposed metrolink and dart underground stops seems purpose designed to avoid each other sometimes. That's if Metrolink ever gets built!

Lennito

1y↑2

In Amsterdam, the ring line akwardly stops at Isolatorweg. If they add 3 extra stops to connect Isolatorweg to Central station, the line would be 10x more convenient

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