Wasteland
M. fallan Lyrics

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I love my friends they know how they know when
They are great all a wasteland companion
Here it comes what now just to my door
I got an endless song I got to see what this all is for

Overall Meaning

In "Wasteland," M. fallan is expressing gratitude towards their friends who have been reliable companions no matter how desolate or hopeless the situation may seem. The singer values their friends' understanding of who they are and their ability to sense what they need. The term "wasteland" is used metaphorically here to describe the hardships and struggles of life. Despite these difficulties, the singer finds comfort in the presence of friends who are able to offer support and companionship in the darkest of times.

The chorus, "Here it comes, what now just to my door, I got an endless song, I got to see what this all is for," signifies a curious and optimistic tone. The singer is open to the future and whatever it may bring. Instead of being fearful of the unknown, they approach it with wonder and eagerness. The phrase "endless song" symbolizes the infinite possibilities that life may hold. The singer acknowledges that they need to keep moving forward and explore these opportunities to find out the true meaning of life.

Line by Line Meaning

I love my friends they know how they know when
My friends are incredibly important to me and they always seem to know when I need them.

They are great all a wasteland companion
Even in the worst of times, my friends are there for me and provide comfort and companionship.

Here it comes what now just to my door
Something unexpected is happening and I'm not sure how to react.

I got an endless song I got to see what this all is for
I feel like I have a purpose or a message to share, and I need to explore that to truly understand it.

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01Withered skin3:06

02Drown Once Again3:54

03All raised in rows2:35

04mirrors2:36

05willing and able3:13

06Weak3:34

07The road to ruin2:39

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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

@michaelcalvin42

1y↑5

Just providing a little (too much) extra info for anyone happening across this comment.

In really super old games (DirectX 7 and earlier) there was a hard limit due to the fact that everything went through the fixed function pipeline (shaders didn't exist until DirectX 8) and there were a limited number of lights available in the hardware.

In anything more modern (DirectX 8 and later) it's limited by the number of lights you can shove into your shader parameters (partly a function of the DirectX version, partly a function of the video card, and entirely a function of how complex your shader code is.) Looks like this game came out in 2009 originally (if Wikipedia can be believed), so it probably uses DirectX 9 or 10 (more likely 9; 10 took awhile for people to adopt).

There are ways of fudging limitations, of course. One way would be to do multiple render passes on the scene, rendering objects in groups depending on which lights they need (a little slower, depending on the number of lights used and therefore the number of render passes required). Another thing that can be done is to ignore lights that are offscreen (or rather, only affect objects which are offscreen); this should just be done by any game engine, really.

Modern game engines tend to use a combination of these tactics (and probably some other stuff I'm not thinking of right now) to render arbitrary numbers of lights. We still have these limitations today, we just have techniques to get around them and hardware which supports much more complexity.

@brandoncomer6492

"A lot of unrealized potential". That was exactly how I felt about it when it was first released. It does a handful of things as well or better than literally any other game in the MMO market

1) layering of armor/weapons with multiple anchor points; you just look and feel like a badass.

2) the persistent mount/vehicle system was absolutely fantastic

3) the crafting was extremely satisfying

Everything else is a bit of a disaster, but it's a damn crime that those handful of systems is nailed haven't been adopted by other MMOs

All comments from YouTube:

@Thanatosofone

2y↑9.8K

Yeah yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.

@JoshStrifeHayes

2y↑3.9K

The man, the myth, the legend.

@dreku8743

2y↑357

The one and only !

@Yadid1

2y↑299

The chosen one

@tanatos5

2y↑200

Hello fellow Thanatos

@timcates4261

2y↑633

lol loved being confused by this comment till it was mentioned in the video

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@MasonHavok

2y↑5.2K

Thank you for this video. I was the lead game designer on Fallen Earth and it’s nice to see someone get it. This video was extremely fair snd accurate. I wish we had been able to do more, but I’m proud of what we did. Thank you, brightened my day.

@couldahadyang7901

2y↑64

Are you involved in the reboot?

@MasonHavok

2y↑298

@CouldaHadYang I am not. Still in the industry, just not involved.

@doncato9021

2y↑47

@Lee Hammock if im allowed to ask
what is your current company/game youre qorking for/on?

@MasonHavok

2y↑290

@Doncato I work at Tripwire Interactive but can’t say what I’m working on.

@sanguinemde5031

2y↑88

@Lee Hammock Glad to see you are still at it. Im sure you still have many great games ahead of you. :)

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@Eraiyna

2y↑459

It's also hilarious how quick the community was to try and shut down Josh before they would even know how much he likes this game.

@tarnetskygge

21w↑3

Maybe if he didn't have such a clickbaity name for this series people would react less negatively... it's literally called "Worst MMO Ever" (the "?" only adds extra clickbait) and unless you've watched a number of episodes you won't know it's actually a balanced take.

@Cynsham

19w↑3

@@tarnetskygge Is it clickbait-ey? Yes, but if those same people would watch even the first 5 minutes of the video they'd realize how balanced the review is.

@kastorcaster

2y↑940

This feels like a game that was made with a lot of love and good ideas, and just suffered from lack of budget to do things as they should have been.

@oimeuchapa6995

2y↑18

RIO, or Raised In Oblivion had the same sad end... Then they are forced to release a unfinished game to get cash and when, if they, manage to finish they work, no one is interested anymore...

@samjetstream8710

2y↑36

I call that New Vegas Syndrome. Great team of people, great ideas, and great execution, but not enough money or time to do it.

@kingoftruth1112

@toonarmy8524

1y↑1

its still worth a play.

@Vexy93

1y↑11

It's not a "lack of budget" problem but more like an "not aged well" problem. This game is from 2009. It was released 3 years after Playstation 3 and 4 years before Playstation 4

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@Tory-JJ

2y↑317

this game has some amazing voice acting. Props to anyone who worked on this game.
You clearly knew what you wanted heard from the VA's and made them work for it.
Seriously, good shit.

@sauntor

2y↑359

This video was perfectly timed with my dissatisfaction for current MMORPGs. Most seem to unenjoyably hurry you along to max level; giving little effort to an engaging storyline, crafting, or have a damn cash shop.

Not only did Fallen Earth scratch that classic MMO itch for me, there are hundreds of other new players that must have felt a similar way. The Steam charts appear to show the population tripled this last week.

It's good to be a newb again! Thanks, Josh!

@fidget2322

2y↑133

Missing out on one of the best parts of this game, the faction wheel system. Managing to have 6 separate factions that all tie in with each other and provide balance was a work of genius.

@PhrozenFox

42w↑1

It seems like it, but Enforcer was the most popular before and it remains so now.

All the zones seem to be captured by them.

@vicca4671

2y↑1.3K

It warms my heart when while looking for the worst MMO ever you find something that's actually good or has nice potential.

@L3M0N4NDCH3RRYZZ

2y↑23

I just wish Icarus would have had a AAA budget for the game, because you could tell as developers they loved what they were doing.

@falcon1378

2y↑15

@bran1986 The voice acting is really well done, feels like a well done passion project.

@Insanecorn

2y↑3

@bran1986 That would of been a fun game to see what it was like, but at the same time I don't think the talk would be much different to what it is now.

@darthgorbag

2y↑6

Honestly, I was a bit shocked. I didn't think it was possible for Josh to give such high praise to a game in this video series.

@jakeraltuve9994

46w↑2

i'm just starting to see the video and i like what i see, ohh damm i'm 1 year later hahaha

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@andreix123

44w↑42

I remember watching this when released, Im 4-500 hours Into the game now, never thought I would find something I would love through this series, but here we are :D

@PeterPanbe

2y↑28

Always love it when a “worst MMO” turns out to be a gem :-)

@DsiakMondala

35w↑2

Mee too, makes me feel all fuzzy

@JeremiahMcCoy

2y↑919

I was the Test Lead on that game back when it launched originally. I really appreciate your review. I appreciate that you point to the good along with the bad. Thanks for that.

@plotpoints2985

2y↑13

Your game was my childhood. Im am grateful.

@croissantlover1

2y↑1

I still remember the CHOTA starter zone with lots and lots of players everywhere. I found this game through Thottbot sidebanner commercials back in 2009.

@JohnDoe-ml8ru

As a player that bought the original game, in the box, on release, you missed a lot in "testing" XD

@mccool132

Amazing job 👍

@jakegraham7265

@@user-tu3gp1fg3j Hahaha I was there too, they really did

@warmachine5835

2y↑31

I can't say I'll try the game, but it's nice to see such a favorable take on it. One thing I like about the "Worst" series is how many actual gems you seem to find. I hope the team behind it keeps working, and maybe does that monetization thing so they can hire more staff and give it the polish it needs. It sounds like the fans deserve it.

@winderps

1y↑24

I just love the idea that they potentially wanted to stop you from writing a generally positive review until you had a chance to experience the end game and then you might hate the end game and completely flip your review on its head. Lmao. Lol, even.

Also, as a side note, I really appreciate how you don't stick to an over-simplified "numerical score out of 10" reviewing system. It really helps to show and tell what's good and what's bad and not try to dumb it all down to a single number. Keep up the good work!

@BarokaiRein

2y↑510

Man we had so many mmos in 2000s that would've been fantastic had they come out 10 years later with technology that could actually support their concepts.

@isbebanta6514

2y↑32

I agree sadly new technology is way more expensive not as many companies can get a foothold in the mmorpg world like they use to be able to :(

@KhronicD

2y↑7

Yeah, this game could have been amazing, if it was capable of living up to it's potential. I enjoyed it for quite a while.

@lostinthenight2005

2y↑1

I wonder if it would be possible to remake or create a new one based on those ideas.

@kyotheman69

2y↑2

well didn't need mmo of it, we already got this experience with Fallout

@balzarinemythus50

2y↑16

@kyotheman69 That's a really dumb take mate.

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@ivicamajmunskikreten9714

2y↑44

I gave this a go after the video and I'm still playing it. lvl21, making my dune buggy and getting ready to leave Sector 1. The game has that 2000's smell, but the design is incredibly deep.
What's most surprising is that quest text is actually worth reading. Yes, the writing for this game is genius at points. Quests are also in theme with the zone/settlement they're in. Yes, some quests still boil down to kill this x times, collect y of that, but mostly it's talking to more NPCs and then getting tasked with killing or collecting(which also usually is just 1 or 5+ items), which is incredibly refreshing from just getting slapped in the face with "kill 15 bandits".
Crafting is so non intrusive it's actually beneficial to do while leveling. the game is designed to be crafting oriented and the design is spot on.
The game IS good. It's janky, but good. If you care more about design than the flashy bits, it's worth a try.

@purplehaze2358

2y↑33

God, you can tell there's so much love and care put into the game. Even if it's not great, I can't help but deeply admire it.

@L3M0N4NDCH3RRYZZ

2y↑53

Love this game and it still has my favorite crafting system of any MMO. One thing is the economy is set up where crafters need mats from all levels, so even low level players can scavenge copper or rubber to make decent chips. This carries on throughout the game when people need to make things like gasoline for vehicles or even weapons and armor.

@MD-yd8lh

2y↑3

Sounds pretty awesome

@Dan-bv3mf

40w↑7

Played from alpha to release and a couple years after. In its golden age with thousands of players around, it was such an amazing experience. One if the best mmo times.

@MRSupernova100

52w↑7

You always know it's gonna be good when Josh says "Behold: Combat!" - It has ~~never~~ failed to get a chuckle out of me... I must be getting old.

@maxwellsterling

2y↑2K

The "you have to play dozens of dozens of hours to review this game" argument never ceases to amaze because the moment you play dozens of dozens of hours and say negative things, the same people gatekeeping your review are the ones saying "well, if you dislike it then why did you play dozens of dozens of hours?"

@MrRafagigapr

2y↑65

I get why people say that, he skipped allmost of the crafting wich is probably the best part of the game, he did not evrn make a simple piece of gear, scavenging and crafting your makeshift equipment is my favourite part, but yeah i get it he will just talk about what he experienced, but its just a partial review

@L0PREZ

2y↑8

its a trap!

@andrewbrock3675

2y↑250

@rafa marafa if you go out to eat and the meal is great can you say it was a great meal without first inspecting the kitchen and meeting the chef?

@GmrLeon

2y↑53

The latter is especially annoying when it comes to live service games (of which MMOs were basically the first), where the dozens of hours you played were likely for a version you did enjoy that the devs subsequently changed in ways that you didn't enjoy as much. This gets even worse when they try to say, "Well it's not like they took that enjoyment away from you," except that in changing it they sort of have as it's slightly (or sometimes dramatically) not the game you used to enjoy.

That's something I've grown to really dislike in games that I play alone but are run with the live service model (and aren't necessarily always online), and the forced updates across many platforms.

@MrRafagigapr

2y↑36

@Andrew Brock no , but you cant say a restaurant has a great menu if you only tasted 1 dish

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@adrienbroditore

2y↑15

It's nice seeing Josh having fun with a game! Sad that this game didn't get to be where it should have been but it's obviously a labour of love

@semperk1482

2y↑14

I remember this was one of the first MMOs I ever played, and it was honestly amazing. It got me more interested in sci-fi MMOs and I ended up playing face of mankind, which still is so much different than any game I've played so far. It was everything I wanted, a living and breathing cyberpunk world with player-led factions and events. Then it died. In a way most MMOs have those social aspects that made the game's world feel alive, instead of harnessing a community the focus of developers seems to be on solo casual play. I understand why, most MMO gamers are older now and don't have the time to spend making events or meeting new people. It's such a shame what MMOs have become

@BodyWellnessHub

2y↑18

It's a great game. When I played it when it first released it was a breath of fresh air in the MMO space. It was so different from anything else out there and it still is. I am so glad they brought it back to life . I am waiting with anticipation on the changes the devs are bringing to the game and yes .. it will be a labour of love.

@AxisZtv

2y↑20

Man... this looks like it would have been a wild ride in its prime. You can definitely tell the devs put a lot of love in it. Also, looks like your coverage breathed a little more life into the game which is awesome!

@DGMRuadeil

2y↑43

26:52 Because older engines like this have a physical limitation on how many lights can be in a scene at a given time. Usually around 3. Some games work around this limitation more clever than others, and this one clearly uses the simplest approach.

@michaelcalvin42

1y↑5

@ZorotheGallade

2y↑313

Love when a game manages to be "low budget, but high effort". It's easy to excuse big defects with "Well we don't have a huge team of programmers and heaps of cutting edge resources to make the game actually good", but the dav team of this game squeezed all the talent they had for everything it was worth, and it shows.

@UpperAquatics

1y↑1

I really wanted to get into MMO's but that 100 hour grind to get to the "fun part" isn't something I can do. I really support your thoughts on this. Thanks for the killer content!

@ZenRoyal

2y↑2

This game has so much depth and such a variety of ways to play. You can truly be unique which makes this an amazing social platform on top of just being an all around treasure chest of an MMO. Proud to still be there.

@Squintis

2y↑18

I’ve played MMOs since RuneScape 2 first came out around 2001. I will still never understand the argument “yeah but wait it gets good — hours in”

If I’ve been playing for 10hrs and the game still feels bad, I’m done. The game is not my thing and it’s not worth it to waste any more or my time.

And if a game takes 100 hrs to get good, was it ever good in the first place?

@mafiousbj

2y↑9

Never played or heard about this game, but I'm happy you brought attention to it. It's videos like this which I really enjoy, bringing a diamond in the rough to the light.

@Pundae

1y↑7

21:50 I've also always seen these guides as very much the new player experience, which is the most important part of the game imo. If you don't ever get players past the first chunk of hours, you don't have a game.

I've said that about books before too. It doesn't matter how good the twist ending or climax is if no one reads it because the first half of the book is miserable

@GrandCorsair

2y↑2.3K

I think Josh's reviews are valid. It's pretty much the impression of a person starting a new game. If the game is a chore at the start you're not going to make to that hundreds of hours good content.

@steffithemad8327

2y↑69

When I started ESO I was immediately hooked, played for 2300 hours but have since quit, damn game has gone downhill.

@joshanonline

2y↑46

@Steffi TheMad Same. I enjoyed the most questing. Best sidequest stories ever! Main quest is lacking.
I got to endgame, made tons of alt, lev crafts, made tons of sets, did dungeons, bought houses, 1k champion lev, aaaand done. Took like 2k hours. PvP was horrendous with all the lag and ani cancels to win fights.

@randomvoiceie.iantan9738

2y↑55

If the game is designed with the first 100 hours a totally not immersive slog fest, and not helping to boil the story down to "the world is deteriorating, send help" with encouragement to discover it yourself, the writer's aren't doing their job, are they?

@justkev6277

2y↑124

Right? Why waste a hundred hours to get to good gameplay when you can just play a different game that doesn't waste your time.

@alex-qu7kb

2y↑5

@Infinity Dragonall 2k hrs of mine were in cyro yea the lag is so terrible but animation cancel is a part of skill lmao

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@TheOd14042

1y↑2

Thank you for the content. You have completely changed my perspective on mmo games. I used to treat them like lifestyle games, but now I respect and honor them as unique vacation style experiences. The content you've created has litterally reached out to me through the internet and effectively changed my perception for the better. I hope you can change other peoples lives, like you did mine.

So, from one human to another, thank you. =]

@MuffHam

1y↑15

I tried this game out after watching this review. Put 60 hours into it. That's more than allot of triple A games get from me.

@kami-oshi.kronii

1y↑3

I remember playing this when it was new and it was fun back then. Thanks for this series, I'm having so much fun with it! And the voice acting is so good! It's better than a many games in current generations!

@Leghar

I did as well but never fully made my own ATV 😂

@christianhaja3354

It felt like a Fallout meets Star Wars Galaxies and went beyond by adding plenty of interesting features. Any drop could be recycled into something useful. Found an empty water bottle or plastic junk? Fine, refine it into plastic scraps and use it in crafting. Same principle was applied to other resource groups like metals. Also, when the player reaches the level to decide on joining a faction, things become exciting. Faction battles, faction specializations, and so on. I love it!

@yohumanfrisk

2y↑8

This video makes me want to try out Fallen Earth Classic. I've seen enough from the gameplay and heard enough from the commentary in the video to say that, despite its janky flaws, the game seems genuinely good, and that it has a charm that I would enjoy.

@Anon-jg7uj

2y↑713

Hardcore players really ought to realize that with every Josh review, good or bad, there will be an influx of players wanting to try out the game especially if the game is even somewhat good.

@dyadica7151

2y↑4

@Sir Eebral How does that happen if there's no box price, no sub, and no shop?

@elsonlam

2y↑28

I think it's a standard problem with MMO. Due to the nature of the genre, these "hardcore" players invested a lot of times into the game. That, plus the whole open-world-do-whatever-you-want style, make it easy for some people to be overly invested and confuse their identity with the game itself. So, to them, any criticism of the game is also a criticism of them.

@myfriendscallmejojo

1y↑1

@elsonlam I know where you got that from nice

@elsonlam

1y↑3

@QueeN Sadly, you're mistaken. My college friend flunked out because he played too much game. I failed 1 class (out of 3), withdrew from another, and barely passed the last class because I skipped classes to play games. That quarter was my wakeup call. It took my friend almost 2 extra years to get back to college.

@awesomelazers904

2y↑2

I absolutely love this series. One day I'd love to see you give an old game call Xenimus a try. Played it back in the late 90's. It felt like a Runescape competitor. Keep up the phenomenal content and I can't wait for the next one.

@updown2576

2y↑2

I like your style of reviews, because I feel like you are after certain things which I like in MMOs, so always good to hear that. I was never a fan of "endgame", what these days means doing the same boring shit over and over again for more numbers and nothing else. On a side note, I have a friend who are doing the same as these guys, but on animes. Like calling me an idiot for not giving a chance for a show which first episode I hated completely, and saying "how can you do that, when it will get cool the next episode". Yeah, I will absolutely ignore things I enjoy for something which I might after a season or two. These people, and their logic..

@CaptBlamESO

2y↑1

I totally forgot this game existed. I played the hell out of it as a kid. It was my alternative to WoW before ESO. If there's one thing I remember so fondly about it is that the pacing of progression feels very good. Going from your little pellet guns to crafting all the parts for your first bolt action rifle and feeling very strong afterwards was such a satisfying moment.

Thanks for this video, Josh. I didn't know the classic version re-released and I'm now downloading to take a trip down memory lane.

@PunQueen

2y↑1

Most likely, what happened with the hammer and shiv in the ant cave is you didn't have enough points in your Melee skill to wield it effectively

@trogdor8764

1y↑2

I enjoyed this a lot back in the day before it died. I remember having a gray car (which took a long time to build, iirc) and getting frustrated because the zone I had reached by that point was a dense forest, and trying to drive around there was a bad time.

@Paddzr

2y↑200

"your experience is irrelevant if someone else has more of it"

What a wonderful line. It's both sarcasm and not sarcasm at the same time.

This seems like a great game that almost came out too early for it's own good.

@misty2373

2y↑17

So far am playing it, reached level 9 and am currently doing quests in embry, its honestly very engrossing experience. Mainly focusing on perception and intelligence for crafting and gathering, then charisma and social to get better rates when selling to npcs or based on their own buy rates. Then rounding it with some dabbling in mutagens and pistoling.

@fragleshnagle4256

2y↑3

Oh boy just wait till you make the trip to sector 2 and 3. It just gets better

@greanhare5270

I'm surprised that there are more than 66 MMOs out there. I always understood that developing and maintaining an MMO was a colossal undertaking, and thought very few publishers had the resources to do that.

@kerianhalcyon2769

46w↑1

Your argument about the good content versus content locked behind mediocre content has merit, and I wish more players felt like that. It's a fact that MMOs are a time sink, that's a given - Elder Scrolls Online is my current (though off and on) MMO and I've spent almost 2,500 hours in the game. But the majority of those hours were good fun, as opposed to needless and grindy filler. I've got 5 of the 12 toons I currently own to Champion level, completed the main story on my primary toon once with intent to start into the Tamriel Unlimted content later, and have completed all the expansions up to Summerset (including Murkmire) with intent to continue to other expansions I've bought but not yet completed.
The moment stuff became repeated and mediocre was when I took a nearly two year break from the MMO, long enough that the Blackwood expansion had come and gone and that the High Isle expansion season was nearing its end. If not for the mediocre yet necessary-feeling of partaking in holiday dailies for special motifs, recipes, and other obnoxious things I realistically had no real need or desire for I probably would have finished my other campaigns by now and got started with the newest stuff. ESO's fun from the moment you start a toon to the end of the game, with the only exception being the one zone they try to do more grindy content. All MMOs need to be that way.

@Kuddleminski

24w

...Oh my goodness. I remember you in general chat. I'm an old old old player of FE, and so I was just lurking while leveling a new character. I can't believe I ran into your channel without knowing who you were and only having that memory unlocked after watching this video at 2 in the morning.

I miss my first stint with FE. You nailed so many points on why it spoke to me. FE literally changed who I was. (mostly for facilitating making friends and meeting my now life long partner, we all know the stories)

I follow the CEO in charge of Little Orbit, who just put up the servers for the heck of it while he makes it his pet project to port everything to a different engine.

Gods, now I wanna go just pop in and drive around. Listen to the music.💙

@TRP_TheRandomPlace

2y↑1

Thank you for this review - I will actually try out the game because of it, you perfectly captured the emotions I'm looking for in a post apocalyptic mmo!

@PrimroseParadox

2y↑699

This game actually seems like a little gem in the rough. A welcome difference from most featured on this series.

@5762Maverick

2y↑29

Yeah I'm actually downloading this and gonna try it after watching this video :p

@Fordragon

2y↑36

It honestly is a fun game. I played it when it first came out, 13 years ago, and it was pretty great, just stupidly unstable. That's why the game died, from what I understand, just too laggy and buggy. As long as this "classic" Steam version has fixed that, it should be a great time. I'll be downloading it for sure.

@Crotaro

2y↑4

Absolutely! I played it many years ago and it was really fun. I'm happy to see that it's still doing quite fine. Think I'll jump in again, soon.

@couldahadyang7901

2y↑4

This game has a lot of really weird people in the community and their chat is filled with spam about the people there being racist. Not sure if it was just a troll or not but it went on for like 15-20 minutes before the dude finally stopped. So I guess be wary

@Sadows12

2y↑4

@CouldaHadYang Yeah I noticed an influx of twitch chat like spam in the game recently.

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@59sam666

2y↑1

oh my god I used to play this game all the time between 2012-2014. It's still one of my most played games by hours on Steam (480hrs). I'm so glad to see how the game has been revived and the developers removed the monetization part of the game. I hope to jump back into it soon!

@MalekitGJ

2y↑11

Fast Spoiler: the gurl that helped you in the past jumped into a cloning vat and she has your same problem.
The fact that she "helped" you and the other clones (players) to get their cloning powers back, but regrettably resetted to Lv1, is so if any of you get to the Prime clones she will keep her new immortality too.

I found this while doing every quest i found while exploring the camps & cities in the world map on my 3rd day. There are tons of lore to unveil while you explore & help people.

@SilimsLetsPlays

1y↑1

I mean, you'd still get your immortality back that the other guy ruined. Seems only fair she gets the same immortality for helping out.

@Ralexand1988

2y↑3

this week was incredible, the chat was so busy and just .. so many new player where i hope even a fraction stays. thank you so much man.

@0Motion

42w

This game was very interesting to play when I fooled around with it maybe a year ago. I'm a roleplayer by nature and MMOs are a rather usual environment for me to fool around in with my characters due to usually having large swaths of other roleplayers to interact with- and while the game itself was rather lacking of course, the community was such a fun sight really.

Best example I can give was me having my character sit down in the main hub of Sector 1, and watch two groups duke it out; in reality it was literally just two factions doing some PvP duels for the sake of practice and entertainment; but pretending it was batches of clones beating the hell out of one another for fun was super enjoyable in-character, there were even a few folks who joined in on the RP- who after the fact admitted they never really did RP, but found a lot of fun taking part in cheering on the duelists

@wilhelmschmidt7240

45w

The voice acting is surprisingly well done, good job to the crew who put that together.

@shinrailp1416

2y↑463

It always baffles me when i see smaller games like this having really good voice acting while other much bigger games just sound like ass(or rely on the same 3 voice actors continuously). Really tells you who cared for the overall experience.

@mystman7722

2y↑89

note, that this voice acting is prevalent in the beginning area of the game. The further you go into it, the less and less you will have until you get absolutely none anymore by the time you reach Kaibab Forest (map 3). It shows how this game was designed by the original devs (Icarus Studios), the further they went in development, the more sacrifices were clearly made until they abandoned development and gave the game to GamersFirst (who only care about nickle & diming their customers instead of fixing the game), THEN much later it was passed to Little Orbit.

@furkanefeturec

2y↑39

@Myst Man Thats dissapointing to hear. That voice acting was phenomenal.

@iandakariann

2y↑25

@Furkan Efe Türeç the issue is that voice acting is very very expensive so it's hard to keep adding more of it as you keep building more game.

And given how many talk about the game when it came out, VAs can't save a game with issues. People don't go 'the are problems that make the game hard to enjoy but the voices make me want to keep coming back.'

So it might've been better to not go all out on voices if it meant more resources to make the game itself better polished.

@gzts9213

2y↑1

Tell that to all the Gothic fans

@furkanefeturec

2y↑8

@Ian Dakar I agree, its just damn shame to see such good VA to fizzle out so early.

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@corvierfairburn

2y↑1

Great video as usual and it's nice to see that Fallen Earth Classic has gotten better than what I last heard about it! You should review the superhero MMORPG, Champions Online, next if you haven't before! It's a game I play from time to time and I'd love to see your take on it!

@svx_n_sxvn6244

1y↑2

Thankyou for getting me into this game. Cool note it seems they have fixed most of the things you highlighted in this video

@darrylhardin5139

30w

I loved this game so much. Such an amazing game. Ambushing people in PvP was completely satisfying.

@crab-manSorgame

31w

These are the ones that make me kind of.. apathetic, lack of a better word. sort of sad, it's what fallout almost could have been, infuse stalker, infuse some love from a crew of mmo lovers. Keep at Josh, these are almost like time capsules of gaming history, for better or worse

@SKY11211213

wow your review / showcase is really well done. So many people forget the feeling about games and whether it is faithful to the game series predecessor and or was a good choice or just for the sake of change.

@alchemik666

2y↑725

Little Orbit is such a weird/interesting company. From what I remember, they mostly produce licensed trash, but have a side-hobby of salvaging doomed games. Most notably saving Unsung Heroes, the massive Kickstarter disaster, from certain death. Certainly not producing a masterpiece, but delivering a product to backers who the original developers left with nothing. Resurrecting Fallen Earth gives me a similar vibe, a side project done done from the place of love for the medium rather than from hope for serious profit.

@mitchellhorton9382

2y↑46

I feel like that's basically what FDev has been doing with Elite Dangerous; Elite is too niche of a product to get made and supported, but FDev has that sweet Roller Coaster Tycoon money and they used the Kickstarter to trick the suits

@RamdomGuy1337

2y↑40

@Mitchell Horton yeah, but FDev is missing the love and interest. They wanna milk the last few ARX from old man truckers.

@Ch1oe2472

2y↑32

So, like the anti-Gamigo?

@Darthellawayc

2y↑2

This game literally just looks like a SWG mod though, who were the original devs?

@Amiculi

2y↑23

Wow, someone hook them up with Defiance's license, or City of Heroes, or Tabula Rasa, or Auto-Assault, or Earth & Beyond, or any of the other janky-but-full-of-heart MMO's I loved and are now dead.

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@Desukashino

I've only just now discovered your channel but I'm loving this series. You have a lot of great insights into both the successes and failures of many of these MMOs. I've heard you mention blade and soul a few times but I don't see any video on it specifically... Any chance you're planning to cover it sometime soon? I was roped into playing it by some friends and I think it's a great candidate for worst MMO as it's incredibly predatory with its pay to win model.

@Famiklor

No membership? No microtransactions? No loot boxes? This isn't MMO at all... just kidding, I will give it a shot! Nice to find this little gem, and thanks to Youtube for recommending me this video after I subbed you on my new account. As always Josh, keep up the good work! :D

@Nicalapegus

2y↑1

Great review and commentary, as always. Also loved the statement about fanboyism near the end. That's something our gaming community needs to work on, for sure. Keep it up!

@kurojima

26w↑1

"Just imagine how many people would have died if i weren't around to murder everybody" is the perfect summary of all rpgs ever!

@Theinvalidmusic

2y↑85

There's something incredibly endearing about this game. I'll take 'janky but made with love' over 'polished and soulless' any day.

@argentumsound

34w

Started playing it based on your video and I am SO HAPPY with it! The game is extra chill and satisfying, the content is overall very well crafted the people are nice and the devs keeping this IP alive and (btw!) doing maintenance on it TWO. TIMES. A DAY!! - are not just chads, amazing , selfless and passionate about what they're doing. They're more than that. They're actually wizards. Yeah. Wizards... WIZARDS OF LOVE!!! ♥♥♥

@OfficialTriple

44w

I played this on launch when I was maybe 15. Finally, Fallout MMO! Computer could hardly run it but it was so unique, but budget wise the game didn't have it. I made my character a Sniper and had a lot of fun staying very far and dropping enemies that way. Also getting a Dune Buggy as a mount was top tier dopamine back then lol. Still love it for what it is/was.

@CurseOfDeath

2y↑1

Would be great if they could make fallen earth 2. I remember i played this a while when it was first released a decade or so ago. Quite a nice a and fun game for its time. With modern tech FE2 could definitely attract many players.

@Liednard

2y↑5

First time in years I'm genuinely interested about a MMO, thanks Josh!

@ZawZaw-yb3nf

I actually loved Fallen Earth for what it was, I sunk 120hrs into the original before the reboot, my best friend and I had a really good time. I can't go back to it, just because it doesn't feel right without my best friend. Highly suggest it!

@imilyashina7701

2y↑132

I don't even play MMOs anymore, but I still watch this series. There's something about Josh's snarky British commentaries that just gets me watching non-stop

@gmail2gmail280

Nice reply ❤️

@TheLuckOfTheClaws

2y↑1

I've only played one mmorpg my entire life (GW2, exclusively because i am a furry and i liked the design of the charr) but i also watch these bc i love the commentary. the snark is fantastic

@KOAHUNT3R

2y↑6

Definitely agree. I have a hard time enjoying/ finding the right MMO, but I stumbled across the channel, and it's because of his wit and well written thesis that I keep coming back to his channel!

@jarvis1508

2y↑1

Thanks to Josh, he has made me pick up an MMO! A genre I haven't touched. It is finally nice to find a gaming YouTuber that doesn't use hyperbole and is able to analyse games beyond a surface level from a player's perspective.

@Scarabswarm

2y↑1

Wow, I remember playing this in... Beta? I think. I still reference its crafting system to people as something I hadn't seen done before. Thanks for refreshing my memory of such a neat experience.

@marcushess6454

2y↑10

Wow what a great MMO tutorial. Crazy devs haven't learned from games like this. Thanks for the retrospective!

@noblebre4sts

I actually played this game on Steam before they shut it down. I have since replayed it and I can safely say It was a gem then, and it is now. They are actively working on a rerelease. What that entails, I don't know. As to the looting, you CAN loot with the aim option, it's just easier to tab into the other the aim mode. As a side note, I really appreciate the attention to detail you give this game. It's refreshing. Now, my current character is about half-way to max level, but I have enjoyed most, if not all, of the content I have been exposed to. TLDR; played game earlier in life cycle, Rerelease planned, agree with almost everything Josh says.

@retrocatalog

Here's an idea: Why don't the developers start a Patreon/Ko-fi/PayPal page for players to donate money to the game without having to alter the game in any way. If it gets big enough they can even start considering large-scale updates.

@mind-of-neo

I don't know why, but when a game is actually really good in one of these videos, i get the same sort of feeling as when the team you're rooting for is winning 😂

@heebyjeeby5000

2y↑492

So cool to see this game highlighted in your series! I worked on it for a number of years after it was launched on the first major expansion and the eventual exchange of hands of control of the game. So much jenk as you point out, but indeed it always fostered a dear place in all our hearts as dev team. There's so many cool ideas that we wanted to explore but never got the time or opportunity to. We really did love our fervent player base though. They really were the best and gave us so much motivation to continue up until the end.

@Ralexand1988

2y↑16

holy shit what, were you with icarus or after? FE always has a special place to my heart as well, played beta 2009 already :) great reading your comment!

@SangFe

2y↑2

Also curious if you were with Icarus....alpha tester here.

@heebyjeeby5000

2y↑22

Icarus and a bit of Gamers First.

@Crotaro

2y↑3

Thanks to you and your former colleagues! This and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. shaped my expectations when it comes to post-apocalyptic atmosphere.

@temjiu9915

2y↑5

Just want to add my respects. Thanks for responding, and thanks for the time and effort and passion you put into these games.

Developers who had that much love for their games and design seem to be fading from the larger scale "corporate" mindset these days. My son recent started getting into rebuilding old consoles and collecting older games, and He was amazed at just how much better quality the design of these game from that era really are. FEC is a gem, and I for one will be playing it now due to this review.

So for any serious fans who were concerned about the review, it's a seller. There's only a few games on this series that I honestly think Josh gave this much praise to, and that's saying something.

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@Nightweaver1

I've actually got over 6 hours in this now and even thought it's jank af, I really like the aesthetic and the satisfaction of harvesting/crafting/leveling up/shooting people in the face/beating them to death with my closet pole.

@AndyGamezoldschool

An absolute gem. Great memories of the game. The Devs would let us help them test things Knew them all over the years met tons of great people. It's old but the crafting system was really cool. Tip make a little girl for pvp you get hit much less lol.

@Bg-xk1uw

Dang this takes me back. Thanks for this review! I loved Fallen Earth when it was new about 10 years ago. Now I'm might have to try it again on Steam. Hopefully the mid game grind won't burn me out again like the last time, but after the recent spate of disappointing MMO's I've tried this might just do the trick. I wonder if it can still be modded? I had a kick ass Hell' Oh Kitty UI I bet is still on one of my old storage drives.

@ramseykeynes9789

The D&D session is pure gold (watch it on twitch). Since the video isn't on YouTube I don't know where else to write this. Anyway, Jhon is dead on mat mercer level, so some extent even better if you are in for the fun and the light tone. What I don't like about CR is that they either take themselves way to serious or way to over ridiculous but within character. Idk, in turn, this is just pure fun. To some level is even ironic, and I love it. His story telling and narration skills are extremely good.

@TheSselluos

2y↑105

i love how thegame had around 50-70 stable players and after this video came out that went to 200 - 300 atleast for now. I think its a great game, did pay it when it was still ot under gameforge

@Insanecorn

2y↑12

You are confusing gameforge with gamersfirst. Gamersfirst bought FE and little orbit bought gamersfirst. Before G1 it was Icarus studios.

@Jack-pc9sp

2y↑1

The beginning made me think it was just going to be a cut and paste of New Vegas's core story beats but I was proven wrong, the game actually gives an interesting, unique interpretation of post-apocalyptic Nevada

@reavy6945

The reason for no cash shop is that originally this game was made by Icarus team. Then it gone on for a while before GamersFirst bought it and released it on steam as F2P with cash shop. It ran that way for few years before shutting down eventually. Then LittleOrbit came in, buying it out to fix it. Upon finding the code to be a complete mess they realized it may be better to remake it entirely but as that will take a lot of time (and quite likely may not happen at all) they've started up the Classic again for all those fans who were waiting for the remake. So now it runs without a cash shop but you do get "premium" account bonuses for free as far as i know.

@wilwailes1834

2y↑1

I just wanted to let you know that out of all the youtube review people, you are the top one on my list. you always list everything from audio to gameplay. if im thinking about trying out a new mmo (WoW veteran of over 12years.) I watch your review first.

@409konflictt6

I played this game as a child, and thought it was absolutely incredible. Put hundreds of hours in effortlessly. A rich clan took me in and I went from using a BB gun and a horse to the best guns in the game riding on the highways on a motorcycle. It’s time I jump back in, and I encourage everyone else to do so as well.

@Jaysthudandblunder

When it first came out I loved this game, then it got taken over and monetized to death. Here's hoping that won't happen again.

Edit: Even after this game shut down I never deleted it from my hard drive I just hoped the karma would flow. It is a marmite game, and boy do I love marmite! To know that the parasites have gone, that there is no cash shop that hopefully the essence of the game will be preserved and built upon fills me with joy :)

@Vesdus

2y↑500

"We can't have the cult indiscriminately killing people they disagree with!"
"So I go and indiscriminately kill the cult because I disagree with them."
Sitting alone at my desk - I cracked up. That was too funny.

@RobotNinja01

2y↑10

So much the same. Sitting at my desk by myself, the sound that came out of me scared myself for a second.

@ibarzabal

2y↑1

LOL yeah same here... love his humor

@someone1tohold

Hey! they disagreed with me first. I'm just paying the favor back in kind.🤣🤣😜😜

@travistreadway3180

Pop ph true

@travistreadway3180

@John Ibarzabal 9and of

@aila6814

2y↑2

my gf came in and excitedly asked "is that Fallen Earth?" and then told me how much she used to love playing this game. its weird when you find a gem in the trash.

@kayn9651

Ohh, I remember this one!!! The nostalgia is real. - Felt so janky to play, but the RP was awesome.
There was a group of people who'd host a traveling caravan of merchants, and I remember getting my first motorbike there. Was fun AF, not because the game was good as much as because the community.

@schwkrls

This game always felt so weird to me. Sometimes it was so janky, yet I always enjoyed it. For the most part, you could actually progress without spending hundreds of hours.

I think it was also somewhat different when I played (around 2013). The tutorial here looks different, or I could just be misremembering.

@misterbrady100

I played that for a few days to try out. I remember thinking it was kind of interesting. I dual wielded rebar I found lying around and had fun with it, flaws and all. The game has some charm, but its execution is flawed.

Edit: I forgot to mention that it had a cash shop that would pop up every hour or so and you would have to close the window to continue with your activities.

@Acirno

41w

This game was pick up with the intent to remake it almost from the ground up. I have seen work done, but no idea if or when it will release. The new devs put the Classic back up till the new does, but mainly cause everyone hounded them to. Thats my guess. It really is a gem, and I enjoy playing.

@KentAErvikAnimations

2y↑323

The issue with your flashlight turning off other lights can usually be attributed to the game engine's light count limit. This is fairly common to find in older games as computers weren't as powerfull back then. Say if the light limit was 8 and all those are in use by street lamps, one will have to turn off in order for you to turn on your flashlight. This is usually not an issue in more modern games as they have much better rendering techniques, like deffered rendering, wich allows for hundreds, if not thousands of lights. in addition, computers are in general more powerfull and can handle more :) Of course, there are ways to make it less visible but who knows why they didn't do more here :)

@psixi7230

yep

@TheHypnotistDK

2y↑6

Yes today you can find the same problems on mobile game development

@KentAErvikAnimations

@Anders Green True that

@Kenionatus

Also, turning off the light closest to and right in front of you is a really poor choice. Good tech artistry is to get away with the trickery without the player noticing. But you know... Good work takes time takes money. And there never is enough of that. (And if there is enough we usually get unimaginative AAA trash.)

@lamebubblesflysohigh

yes but good coding would turn off the one you are not looking at :)

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@BenightedAlizar

27:00 that's funny! I've had the same happen when making a Unity game!
Some rendering systems limit the number of light sources on objects, so if you have a large object (like ground) some of the light reflections get culled when new ones are added.
I dunno anything about the Icarus Engine, though.

@Hwyadylaw

26:49
It's probably not a problem with janky coding per se, but an oversight or shortcut in the level/asset design.

Hypothesis: They have a limit on how many dynamic lights can be active at a time in a scene, so turning on your torch requires turning off one or more other dynamic lights. For some reason they decided that the street lamps (static objects) needed dynamic light, when they should have made it a static light. They wanted the street lamps to turn off during the day, but had no simple way of implementing this in the engine using static lights. So they used dynamic lights as placeholders, since toggling those on or off is trivial. They put this issue on the to-do list, but never got the time to fix it.

Alternatively they put together the street lamp in half an hour and just didn't consider that this might be an issue

@brandoncomer6492

@nolanmoore3831

At 26:28, the environment shown on screen looks awfully similar to Edward Hopper's 'Night walks'. I don't know if anyone else see's the resemblance, but It kind of just struck me in a familiar sort of way. Perhaps this was an easter egg of sorts? Or perhaps I am just over analyzing the environment. Either way, the world building in this game is awesome!

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