Roses and Teeth for Ludwig Wittgenstein
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"A new born child has no teeth."
"A goose has no teeth."
"A rose has no teeth."
This last at any rateâ
one would like to sayâ
is obviously true!
It is even surer that a goose has none.
And yet it is none so clear.
For where should a rose's teeth have been?
The goose has none in its jaw.
And neither, of course, has it any in its wings;
but no one means that when he says it has no teeth.
Why, suppose one were to say:
the cow chews its food and then dungs the rose with it,
so the rose has teeth in the mouth of a beast.
This would not be absurd,




because one has no notion in advance where to look for teeth in a rose.
(Connexion with "pain in someone else's body".)

Overall Meaning

The lyrics of Matmos's song, "Roses and Teeth for Ludwig Wittgenstein," resonates with one of Wittgenstein's philosophical conundrums, which highlights the ambiguity of language and the limitations of knowledge. The first three lines, "A new born child has no teeth," "A goose has no teeth," and "A rose has no teeth," suggest that certain things are evidently true. However, the last statement, "This last at any rate, one would like to say, is obviously true!" is meant to be a puzzling paradox, which is the central focus of Wittgenstein's philosophical exploration.


The lyrics further emphasize the ambiguity of language and the challenge of pinning down the true meaning of words. For instance, the statement, "the cow chews its food and then dungs the rose with it," creates an analogy between the digestive system of a cow and the life cycle of a rose. The idea that the rose has "teeth in the mouth of a beast" portrays the complexity of language and forces one to question what the actual meaning of "teeth" is in this context.


Overall, the lyrics of "Roses and Teeth for Ludwig Wittgenstein" brings to light Wittgenstein's ideas on the limits of knowledge and the complexity of language. It is a testament not only to the philosophical musings of Wittgenstein but also to the creativity of Matmos, who uses music as a medium to explore and express ideas that are not limited to the realm of sounds.


Line by Line Meaning

A new born child has no teeth.
When a child is born, it does not have any teeth yet. This is a known fact.


A goose has no teeth.
It is commonly known that a goose does not have teeth.


A rose has no teeth.
It is commonly believed that a rose does not have teeth.


This last at any rate\u00e2\u0080\u008b\u00e2\u0080\u008b\none would like to say\u00e2\u0080\u008b\u00e2\u0080\u008b\nis obviously true!
The fact that a rose does not have teeth is something that everyone accepts as being absolutely true.


It is even surer that a goose has none.
The accepted truth that a goose does not have teeth is even more certain than the fact that a rose does not have teeth.


And yet it is none so clear.
Despite the general belief that roses and geese do not have teeth, there is still some uncertainty around this fact.


For where should a rose's teeth have been?
Since roses do not seem to have a place where teeth could grow, it is hard to imagine them having teeth.


The goose has none in its jaw.
Although geese do not have teeth in their jaws like other animals, this is not surprising or unusual.


And neither, of course, has it any in its wings;
It is obvious that geese do not have teeth in their wings either, just like any other animal.


but no one means that when he says it has no teeth.
When people say that a goose has no teeth, they only mean that it does not have teeth in its mouth, not in its whole body.


Why, suppose one were to say:\nThe cow chews its food and then dungs the rose with it,
If someone were to suggest that a cow eats food and then poops it out, and then a rose uses that poop as fertilizer to grow, they might argue that the rose has 'teeth' because it benefits from the cow's digestion.


so the rose has teeth in the mouth of a beast.
The argument that the rose has 'teeth' in this scenario is because it indirectly benefits from the cow's digestive process.


This would not be absurd,\nbecause one has no notion in advance where to look for teeth in a rose.
This argument is not necessarily absurd because one can't know in advance where teeth might exist in the natural world, so anything is technically possible.


(Connexion with "pain in someone else's body".)
There is a possible connection between this discussion of teeth and the philosophical problem of understanding pain in someone else's body, but its specific meaning or relevance is not explained by the lyrics.




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