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Since childhood Stanislav was interested in films and music. He has been making music for nearly 10 years and is mostly inspired by Shpongle, Younger Brother, Pigs In Space, Astral Projection, Bjork, downy, Portishead and others.

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Altering Dreams
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Koen Th

3y↑7

Very interesting story, very good research and findings!

One question came into my mind near the end though.

The conclusion that dreams protect sleep (and maybe even are there for that goal) is drawn here from a strong correlation between 1. deaming or not, and 2. sleep quality. (Both groups, dreamers and non dreamers, consisted of people with thrombotical infarcts, but in different brain areas).

In general, REM periods do not occur not at the start, but after some sleep, and tend to be more frequent and longer in the course of the night. It is well known that sleep-deprived people spend less of their time in REM/dreaming phase(*), because the sleep they get is mainly deep.

Here's my question:
Might it also be possible that bad sleepers dream less, just because they sleep deeper?

(*) Sorry for not making the distinction between REM sleep and the dreaming phase here! I really can't, because, as you point out, it has hardly been done in literature! But as you showed they are very strongly correlated phenomena.

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Toxo

3y↑263

I always keep a notebook next to my bed so that I can capture the fleeting memories of my dreams. It's amazing because after months you essentially have a bunch of short stories based virtually on your unconscious and re-reading them is quite a wonderous experience.

Stephanie Romer

3y↑7

That’s why I carry a notebook too. This was awesome. I love how the frontal is dethroned. Humans…. 🤷‍♀️ 😂

Cezariusus

3y↑10

The only dreams that i remember are nightmares or disturbing ones. I guess i enjoyed the good ones.

Wojciech Szmyt

3y↑7

I did this too, and after a while I started having lucid dreams pretty often :)

Videographer Experience

3y↑3

I used this dream journal method while traveling Thailand.

Amazing stream of consciousness work.

Santiago Itzcoatl

3y↑1

I do the same but using a private personal discord server

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malectric

1y↑8

I've dreamed every night I've been asleep for as long as I can remember. When I was young, I found it easy to remember my dreams in a waking state. I could also control what I was dreaming to an extent. And what I dreamed in many ways actually predicted some key events in my life, some of which happened literally by chance and not by actively seeking them out. In my later years I still dream but am no longer aware at any time during dreaming and can only remember snippets of some dreams when I am awake.
If I had one waking aspiration it would be that some day what a person is dreaming could (with their permission - ethical) be rendered on a computer screen. I really think it would be possible (and my hunches are usually correct).
Thankyou very much for a most interesting and enthralling presentation.

C.N. Blaze

3y↑41

Had a brain injury about 17 years ago. Car accident. My dreams have been almost non-existent since then. I have maybe 2 per year.
I have also suffered from depression or lack of motivation, basically a lack of dopamine from what I understand.
This talk finally brought the two together! Brilliant!

Tiffany Treacle

3y↑2

Oh that's horrible! I have very lucid dreams nightly and can control flying, direction of dream etc and about once a month can shot fire 😂 It sounds very silly writing this but I find so much joy and peace in dream journalism. I hope this practice returns to you eventually 🙏🏻

acaciaNorison

What part of brain was injured , is it the top neck?

C.N. Blaze

@acaciaNorison the doctors said my whole cranium was shaken. The other vehicle hit us, from what I'm told, on my right side. We were smacked sideways. Car door hit my top right side. But the damage was so general that they couldn't say exactly what part of my brain was injured. But the jolt apparently wrenched where my head meets my spine and confused the center bits

It's a a bit confusing to own the truth

acaciaNorison

3y↑5

@C.N. Blaze It should be at the level of C1. Have an exposure to sun daily 20 minutes and vitamin C along with Zinc balance will help tremendously in alleviating your depression. I HOPE YOU WILL RECOVER SOON. God bless you...ربي يشفيك ويحفظك ...امين 🤲

Kim Larso

2y↑1

@acaciaNorison Vit D3 w K is very helpful w depression (especially in the Winter & if u live in Northern hemisphere)
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riri

3y↑9

Bringing the psyche back into neuropsychiatry is a wonderful and pithy way to describe this research!

This talk was incredibly insightful and I found it encouraging to see the ways that we can use new tools to bring falsifiability to old ideas. They should be adequately falsified (or not falsified) instead of just seen as ideas of less advanced people from an earlier time. Intuition is powerful, and bringing new tools to old ideas is brilliant!

Peshky Bee

3y↑15

I've been lucid dreaming since I was about 12 (30 now). Something interesting I've noticed is that the further "off path" I take my dream the more obstacles are put in place to stop me/redirect me to the narrative. If I push it too far I wake up without fail. I can also recount 99 percent of my dreams with the same accuracy as telling someone about my waking experiences. Even days, weeks, or months later

Chris Makir

3y↑3

Ever had a dream that you were sleeping and dreaming? Reason I ask is I lucid dream too, so comparing notes.

Peshky Bee

@Chris Makir do you mean having a dream where I was sleeping (woke up in the dream) or dreaming while being fully aware of what's happening around you in the real world?

Chris Makir

3y↑1

@Peshky Bee Having a dream where you were sleeping then woke up in the dream. Also, have you dreamed of being on other planets?

Peshky Bee

3y↑1

@Chris Makir I mean... back when I was a teenager and would watch Dragon Ball Z religiously as a coping mechanism. Would dream of being on the alien planet from a very specific "saga" while that was a thing in my life. After that, no. My dreams became an interconnected world. Funny thing is that I can do Kamehamehas (dragonball thing) to varying effects depends on the situation lol

Edit: funfact... I occasionally talk in my sleep and have had on a handful of instances "KAMEHAMEHAAAAED!!!" In my sleep...

catherine imms

@Chris Makir I have had many times of dreaming and waking up in dreams. I also can force myself to wake up by purposely doing something extreme in a dream.

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Charlie Morley - Lucid Dreaming Teacher

3y↑13

Great talk. I shared the stage with this guy about 10 years ago in SA and he was so generous and kind as I stumbled through a talk on lucid dreaming 🤓🙏🏼

Li Li

3y↑27

I'm going to listen to this tonight as I fall asleep. I dream a lot and often remember them. I have a few recurring themes, and often, my dreams take place in the same locale- my dream city and its surrounding areas. I've drawn maps of it, even. I often fly, float (levitate), and swim in my dreams. Every night I look forward to falling asleep and experiencing the next set of my dreams- it's like visiting a weird and fascinating existence that I know is wholly within my mind.

eyzup

3y↑4

Yes sometines I get a sense that some dream scenarios are repeated a lot. On this thesis it could be that we learn some dreams work well. This would be fascinating to consider from a Freudian view. Might lead to a Jungian leap into archetypes.

Li Li

3y↑1

@eyzup I agree. I can clearly see the connections between the themes of my dreams end my waking situation.

Kirstin Strand

3y↑2

Jungian complexes will reoccur until you resolve the emotional conflict. Major dreams are more relevant than the dream snippets. Pay Attention...your unconscious is trying to get your attention! Seriously.

Kirstin Strand

3y↑1

Once I had the same dream, two nights in a row. The dream was about my SO. The 2nd time, got my attention. It was a short, uncomplicated dream that I cannot remember, else I would share it. He and I eventually split, yet occasionally talk about life.
Although we never did while together.

Themoontoon Shines

3y↑1

How about perceiving dreaming as our second life? Just a thought, an old thought.

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firehot006

3y↑18

An absolutely fascinating talk. I went through a period of experiencing extremely vivid dreams and found that I didn't feel as refreshed when I woke up from them. So although I have no doubt that dreams help good sleep I think the depth of ones sleep while dreaming is also important to feel fully rested.

Thomas Soliton

3y↑3

See comment above - but briefly, I think the brain has no “directive” of what is important, other than emotional associations. Dreaming is akin to putting together a jig-saw puzzle using only the shapes. As the picture emerges, the brain tries to make sense of it but it is mostly nonsense. We may see thousands of trees and people and buildings every day but that information is not usually important. The dream process tries to fit that into your “world model”. But if you wake up and remember that useless information and nonsense associations, you in effect are trying to incorporate that into your world model. So your world model starts to get muddled, and you feel fatigued because the world doesn’t make as much sense. I try NOT to remember my dreams for that reason.

Biggy Beans

49w

@Thomas Soliton that’s a very interesting point of view, I definitely haven’t heard it before and it sounds like it has a lot of merit to it. Thanks for sharing!

Matt H

2y↑7

I have had recurring nightmares for most of my life about tornadoes. I dont live in a tornado prone area and have never seen one. But the dreams are absolutely terrifying. Even if it is just off in the distance on the horizon miles away, I still have this terror and know it's coming for me. Probably every 2 months or so. For decades.

Bella Krinkle

That's odd...mysterious. On what Continent do you live?

Leon Jones

Perhaps your fear of the dream is what causes the dream too occur?

Biggy Beans

49w

Dreams are wild, whenever I encounter danger I usually end up trying to run away but keep going in circles slightly inclined towards the centre. It’s really weird and oddly specific but it’s become somewhat of a common occurrence which helps me remember nightmares

Thomas Soliton

49w

@Biggy Beans “inclined towards the center“ - as in going around in a shrinkngi spiral? I had that experience on LSD. I think it has to do with the dream cycle. During dreaming, you try to reinforce connections with different parts of the brain, and the thalamus keeps activating your cortex repeatedly. However, after repeated activation, brain cells stop responding, so your “sense” of what is happening contracts until none of those cells respond. Then it starts over with a different set of cells. To stop nightmares, see my response above.

fburton8

3y↑9

Random anecdote 2: One summer day when I was watering the garden, I had what may have been abnormal temporal lobe activity in which details and feelings of dozens of past dreams came flooding back, one after the other and continuously for what must have been 10-15 minutes. (I kept on watering the flower beds wondering how long this would go one for.) Maybe it was just a dream version of deja vu and I never actually had them, but it certainly seemed like that and the 'feelings' and atmosphere were very dreamlike.

Christopher Drake

2y↑1

my friend just described nearly the exact same experience just the other day!!! Amazing

fburton8

2y↑1

@Christopher Drake Was he watering the garden by any chance?? :)

Diane Bash

2y↑1

@fburton8 mine was also outside just sitting on the grass with my kids. I lost some use of language comprehension and was so freaked out I went to my phone but couldn’t read or recognize numbers really. I successfully called my husband and mother and then within 15 min the dreams were gone and I was normal again.

Philip Meckel

@Diane Bash sounds like a mini brain infarct that did no lasting damage

Odo

3y↑5

Fantastic work! The thing about free association, is that it also makes sense neurologically. Because neurons form networks of associations, free association may be a rough and ready way to trace those associations. Freud's work reminds me of ancient civilizations who had a working understanding of astronomy without telescopes, and without anything that we would consider to be a scientific method, and yet it worked. They observed and paid close attention.

phillip wareham

You don't need telescopes when you can astral project.

Odo

3y↑2

@phillip wareham 😂

Littleprinceleon

They modelled the sky using very heavy rocks placed on planes where there's a good visibility of big portion of sky.... And did this rather precisely for those ages.
So like Freud: gather a big amount of information in ordered manner. Maybe he wasn't even aware of the importance of all of his questioning and reasoning afterwards... but he did the "computation" unconsciously.
What I try to imply: maybe he did a lot of scientifically valid inquiry but covered and mixed it with half-baked deductions and emphasis. Probably he failed to describe some of the most important points which led him to the theory and also biased his interpretation by concentrating too much on repressed sexuality and aggressivity (which surely is a huge contributor to unconscious proceedings, but there are so many layers of upgrade upon these ancient drivers. )

Daniel Watkins

2y↑15

Extremely interesting. I usually remember my dreams and they are always ordered and sensical, like watching a television episode of a part of my life that often involves people and places I know about something I haven't experienced in awakened reality. More often than not, I can recall certain dreams for days, weeks and even months after.

stephanie parker

2y↑3

Just finished your book, Hidden Springs. It’s fantastic! Very deep into the science, evolution and mechanics, not an ounce of metaphysics.. which I loved lol

Robert Mailander

2y↑1

What an incredibly captivating topic! And so well and thoroughly presented. I'm finding the best quality I could hope for in these presentations from the Royal institution. Thanks for posting this. Despite the growing body of research I think we've only barely touched the tip of the iceberg on this subject.

Double K Videos

3y↑3

I truly wish I could find a doctor like you in the states!
I have been through TBI, many concussions, then misdiagnosed Bi-Polar & treated for 18 years.
4 years ago, I weakened off medication. I wish your science & knowledge could extend to more patients!
My dream & sleep states have obviously changed in past years.
Thank you for this video; as it is another to shed light on the true answers I'm searching so hard for

stephen kagan

2y↑1

The way we've been treating my son's bipolar has been a combination of removing the anti-psychotics and most of the antidepressants that had horrible side effects, improved his diet and had him walking every day and getting fresh air. This combined with beginning meditation and some breathing exercises have done him a world of good. Mind you, it took several years to stabilize and show improvement. Have you tried or benefitted from any of those practices or found other self treatments that help?

no name to see

2y↑8

Thank you for providing the history AND your research to update our knowledge of the brain and dreaming! You present the information in such a memorable and understandable manner.

necrionos

2y↑2

the thing i found most interesting was the connection between dopamine and dream intensity/length/frequency.
i tend to dream very rarely and if i do those dreams are as emotional as watching a b-movie. iam always in a state that could be described as mild depression. its not a bad thing, i just never have an internal or motivation drive to do things, i dont enjoy most things and iambasically emotionally flat lined. iam not sad, not happy, not angry and not in love.
you could argue that missing dopamine could put someone in a state like mine and maybe missin dopamine production is the reason-

ORagnar

3y↑15

You've got to hand it to Freud. His reputation will grow by leaps and bounds thanks to Mark Solms' brilliant work.

aculasabacca

2y↑3

You mean his reputation as a scoundrel?

Gwyddion Flint

1y↑3

It would be interesting to experiment in this area with people who have dopinergic disorders such as ADHD. Interestingly it seems some medications that raise dopamine seem to reduce dreams, but then you have a REM dream rebound effect when those medications are halted, or when alchohol or stimulant drugs are stopped.

Kayla Morris

1y↑1

I'm adhd and autistic . I take adderall fairly regularly and have the most intense, realistic dreams sometimes even realizing I'm dreaming but I have been that way since I was little before ever taking medication

Earl Ledden

2y↑1

I listen to these lectures at night and sometimes fall asleep before they are finished. Many times I dream, and my dream relates to the substance material of the lecture. Seems to me that dreams are not just random wanderings of the mind.

Mr Yellow

2y↑7

Saved this talk for later! What I find fascinating about the phenomenon of sleep is that the brainless, microscopic, multicellular creature called Hydra (related to jellyfish) was shown to also sleep. Suggesting sleep is a process more integral to life than simply brain restoration

Paul

My sister pointed out that her dreams seem related to minor passing or fleeting thoughts she has during the day. I find that to be very true. It is almost like they are the thoughts that we ignore because we want to think only "things that fit" but the subconscious thoughts surface but quickly get covered or fade. It could also explain why dreams fade when confronted with our awake mind.

joemck85

1y↑1

I either don't dream very often, or more likely, don't remember dreams often. But the ones I do recall are usually either fairly nonsensical or symbolic of general trends in my recent experience. For instance, if I feel like I'm getting nowhere in what I'm trying to accomplish, I might get the elevator dream where I keep taking elevators from here to there only to need to go somewhere else first, and never looping back to any previous thing.

But what I'm really replying to say is about how dreams fade as I become awake. Dreams that I don't awake from seem to simply be lost unless some later experience reminds me of them, and then I get one of those eerie "I think I had a dream about this once" moments. But for dreams I awake from directly, the critical moment is when I think my first words as I drift awake. If those words are about something unrelated like what I need to do today, I can remember that I had a dream and I can sometimes recall some vague overall emotional tone of the dream, but trying to recall anything more about it feels like the memory is there but there's some very slippery wall between me and it, and it's lost. If my first verbal thoughts are about the emotions of the dream, I can then tell myself in words more about how I felt during the dream, but won't be able to say a lot about what actually happened. But if my first words are about the events in the dream, it's like holding the end of a string I can then verbally follow to narrate each event and then follow that back to the event that preceded it, and so forth back until the start of the dream or the last "scene change" in the dream, which I'm guessing is the start of a REM period.

From this I theorize that my brain stores two sorts of short- and long-term memory. One is "raw" sensory experiences, the other is "encoded" verbally. If the "raw" sensory memory of the dream is fresh in my mind when the conscious verbal part comes online, I can "encode" the memory verbally and then recall it later. But if I let go of that "raw" memory without "encoding" it, my waking mind loses access to it, yet enough of it remains that I can have a similar dream at a later date, wake from that and recognize it as a repeat.

User

3y↑10

Came here to find out what our brains do when we're dreaming ... Left understanding the function of dreams. Unbelievable presentation. Loved it!

Kooi Seng Chng

3y↑3

During sleep, esp REM sleep, impulses from the brain does down to the spinal cord to inhibit the motor neurones so that no motor movement occurs. Hence you can dream you are cycling up a hill but there is no motion performed. There are disorders called REM sleep disorders in which the person can actually perform movements in spite of being asleep. You can demonstrate this in sleep labs where it is remarkable to see people performing acts that they are dreaming about.

Kirstin Strand

What of talking during a dream? Or sleepwalking?
I've never walked, yet, some do. Never mind, not important. You already e plainer the non typical.

fburton8

3y↑27

Random anecdote 3: My pony stallion used to vocalize as if 'chatting up' a mare while he was in REM sleep in his paddock. Eye movements were very obvious. On a couple of occasions after he woke up, he sprung to his feet, neighed, looked around the empty paddock and briefly grew a fifth leg until (presumably) he realised the mare of his dreams wasn't there after all!

Kirstin Strand

3y↑4

Proof that animals dream, if anyone doubts!

Adrian Revill

3y↑22

It has to be said. Your pony was having a night mare

Johanna Geisel

3y↑1

@Adrian Revill :D

ThePeaceableKingdom

3y↑1

@Adrian Revill "It has to be said. Your pony was having a night mare"
droll!

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WalkIsleofMan

3y↑4

I have just watched this enthralling lecture, thank you. I often don't sleep well. I have always noticed that it is without exception the dreaming sleep that I need to catch up to feel rejunevated, and that this 'catching up' is often longest in the very last hour of sleep.

Johanna Geisel

3y↑2

For me it's the opposite.
When I awaken from a long and complex dream, I often feel particularly bad. As if a truck had ran me over.

WalkIsleofMan

@Johanna Geisel I wonder if it makes any difference when you wake up from a dream both in terms of the number of sleep cycles and literal time of day, or what type of content is in the dream? It's interesting how people's experiences are so very different.

Johanna Geisel

@WalkIsleofMan Hm, I don't know. Possibly.

stephen kagan

Check out Dr Andrew Humberman on youtube in his discussions on improving sleep

Koen Th

3y↑7

getmefixed getyourselffixed

3y↑1

This is a very good question. I'm waiting, hoping for an answer(!)

mark demell

I have my most vivid dreams when in the R.E.M. state ! Go figure.

Thomas Soliton

49w

REM sleep, dreaming, and lucid dreaming are all very highly correlated. Dreaming can hower occur during slow -wave sleep (SWS). The important difference between lucid and “ordinary” dreaming is that in the former “you” can control your dream to some extent. For instance I used to have nightmares about being chased by a monster and it would wake me up. I remembered that part of the dream the next day and decided the only way to stop it was to face the monster. I pictured the memory and made a strong mental note to face it next time it appeared. The next time the monster appeared I “awoke” in my dream, remembered the suggestion, stood my ground, and the monster came right up to me and then “evaporated”. Two things to note here. First, you can make an auto suggestion to awaken in your dreams. It may take several tries but you should be able to if you are persistent. Picture something you want to dream about before going to sleep. Second, when you are “in control“ during dreaming (e.g. lucid dreaming) you are essentially conscious, except that you cannot activate your muscles and most sensory information is blocked out (or interpreted differently) to conform to the dream. What is not always appreciated is that your memories in this state can be consolidated - you can remember them the next day. If you awaken from a non-lucid dream, if you actively try to remember the dream, y can remember about 10 - 30 sec only, and if instead you focus attention on something else, after about 10 to 15 sec (typically) you won’t be able to remember anything about that dream. I think there is a reason you generally don’t remember your dreams - it’s nonsense; the brain attempting to extract patterns out of the days activities. If you have a nightmare because of a strong emotional component that’s different. I think it’s much better to focus on being very attentive to emotional feelings when you are awake and identify issues that way.

David Johnson

I'm still of the opinion that remembered dreams are a semi-conscious experience. Being fully wakened by a dream or during a dream may just be a finely or badly tuned brain state depending on its prevalence and effect on health. Isolating the area of the brain that controls this function is of course an extremely specialised subject.

Karl Fimm

3y↑2

As a child, I had frequent nightmares where I had no control. Then, one night, it was as if the 'logic' part of my mind suddenly switched back on. I remember thinking "I'm being pursued, but my legs won't move and I'm stuck. However, my arms still work, so what can I grab as a weapon." From that night on, my dreams changed, and nightmares became extremely rare. I'm sure this is related to the mental state I find when I have a lucid dream.

Michael Harris

3y↑4

I've found I can sometimes solve a problem the next day after a night's sleep. It seems to me I'm thinking about the problem when I'm half awake or nearly asleep. This has happened so often that I became aware of it. Sometimes the solutions don't work at all, are outlandish, like fitting a square peg in a round hole, but other times they do work.
Anyway, I forced myself to listen to all this and am intrigued again by the scientists who refuse to deal with everything but still insist their's is the only truth. They need to emphasise all the time, we don't know the full story, ...they don't do that, except when it's not challenging anything important. ....from Ireland.

Itzybitzyspyder Productions

3y↑1

I do that too. Not many people can. I've been subjected to many a midnight epiphany.

spybaz

3y↑1

@Itzybitzyspyder Productions Me too. And I'm Irish too :)

TopiaSR

3y↑1

I do that as well. Whenever I'm really struggling to learn something, I will dream about it in a very disconjoined manner. That said, I've also connected that with the concept suddenly just clicking within a day or two of doing so.

(BTW had anyone ever told you, you look like Christian Horner?)

Samantha B

48w↑1

This happens to me at times when I stop working with an open issue that I don't fully understand and can't let go of. I'll wake up in the middle of the night with fresh insights to address that issue... Not all work but they do always get me out of the box I was previously stuck in while thinking about the issue. This occurs mostly with work that involves a lot of logic and modeling.

DoorknobHead

3y↑10

This pleases me that Freud has been at least somewhat vindicated in regards to his work with dreams. When I was in the Marines I arbitrarily read a whole set of volumes of Freud's work in the base library (not that I can remember much of it anymore), so it is nice all that reading was not ALL for naught. It also means maybe I wasn't so wrong arguing for some of Freud's positions and perspectives at that time with that WM (Woman Marine) in the men's Head (restroom) for over an hour during Friday Field-Day (barracks cleanup) when she happened to come down to get some cleaning supplies, or something especially since she was armed with her education of modern psychology (modern thirty years ago), which seemed to completely discount Freud [sounds like a dream sequence, doesn't it, but it actually happened, as strange as it sounds]. For thirty years I was thinking maybe my initial assessments of Freud had been completely wrong, since it seemed the consensus in the field had been against him as per the intelligent and educated Woman Marine, and that Freud had not had any value except for being an example of how disastrously and completely wrong early models in a new field can be by a once highly respected pioneer of that field.

Entrepenumbra

2y↑3

Freud, while an integral part of the development of psychology, is largely considered absurd and even disturbed in his theories. Some turned out to be consensus but only very minor points.
I don't suggest studying Freud deeply or considering his conclusions sound.

V K

2y↑2

@Entrepenumbra Actually, most of his ideas were correct. Ok, Ideas were abstract to begin with, so it is matter of how you measure it, really.

Imagine discussing a patient with other healthcare workers.
You told some idea using Freudian jargon, psychologists/psychiatrists disagree and start arguing.
But If you had used same idea without that jargon, anti-Freudian would absolutely agree.
Anti-Freudism is totally cultural thing.

curious mind

@V K
The problem with freud is that his ideas are very attractive.
So its so hard for people to refute it unless they are educated enough about it.
Cause really although his ideas are attactive many of them are completely wrong

V K

@curious mind my experience is tottaly different.
People find his ideas unattractive (who in their right mind want to go to places in your brain that you avoid?). Also most of those who think that his ideas are wrong in reality do not understand them.
But actual, proper science go well with psychoanalysis.

Gwyddion Flint

@Entrepenumbra he was a pioneer, so of course he would make some mistakes. You wouldn't criticise the Wright brother for using wood and canvas in their planes just because we have advanced alloys now.

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Marc Lepage

2y↑1

Thank you for the very informative talk, Mark Solms.

Zakhar Zhelieznov

3y↑1

I enjoyed the video so much! Very informative and good humour, too 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Michael B

1y↑1

I have to get up two times during sleep to use the toilet and I always have 'Frustrating' 'wake up' dreams to awaken me from sleep. This type of frustrating dream is so normal to me and it's clearly a helpful process from the inner or greater self. The frustration part used to puzzle me until I finally understood I was being helped to awaken to go use the toilet.

Owais Ahmad

Brilliant - what a revelation. Thanks a lot for your brilliant work and bleeding edge discoveries.

Pamela Collins

3y↑5

I use Dr Carl Jung’s basic theories of dream interpretation. Dreams show how different aspects of your psyche are relating with each other or how different attitudes and beliefs are affecting your thinking. When I remember my dreams, I can usually pinpoint exactly what they are referring to. In my experience, they don’t “disguise” anything. They create analogous stories that illustrate the dynamic relationships of different aspects of the personality. That’s my 2 cents.

Paul Wolf

Freud has stood the test of time, but you won't find anything about Jung in Solms' course. I don't think there are many jungian practitioners left.

Kirstin Strand

3y↑2

I concur, absolutely. :)) Pamela Collins, and nicely explained.

Kirstin Strand

@Paul Wolf I think it depends on whether or not one lives on the East Coast.
These days, I only work with, and respect Jungians.
But let's face it; deep psychological work is becoming less and less interesting to those seeking help. Yet, I've been on this path since age 12, when I asked my mother if I could see a Psychologist. She said no, and in those days I listened to my Christian, Authoritarian parents!

Tiffany Treacle

3y↑2

I agree, even the more fantastical and absurd dreams that we might tell another and then awkwardly giggle say ''I wonder what it means''... when we know exactly what it meant or was hinting at.

ThePeaceableKingdom

3y↑2

"Americans are tinkers, not thinkers," said Jung, "they only want to know how it works, not what it means."
Jung is fascinating and frustrating. I think he gave us a lot of wisdom about human consciousness, but he never makes it easy. It shouldn't be. But he's been my inspiration and mentor all my life.

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mike Jones

That five year old will be a brilliant researcher in the future. Coming from experimental psychology background, i really enjoyed the research methodologies and the presentation.

Nick Janse

3y↑3

Incredible. Learned a ton about correlation and causation. Thanks!

Frank Canonica

2y↑4

I love dreams. I have at time two distinct things that I am able to do` although perhaps they are tied together. There are times when I can wake up in the night, perhaps go get a drink of water and then go back to bed and resume where I left off. The second is although I have been told it is not healthy to do. I can lucid dream where I am in neither a sleep nor waking state. During these times I am fully aware of this and know that I am as much an observer as participant. And therfore I am able to change the dreams. If I don’t like where it’s going or the ending I simply change it. This does not happen al of time. But I enjoy the times it does.

Tripp Moore

1y↑1

I've never heard that lucid dreaming was not healthy. I never thought about it that way and doing so now I could see it if that's all you ever did was lucid dream. If your overall mental health is reliant on having regular unconscious (normal) dreams then always being in a lucid state when dreaming would clearly have a negative effect on your mental health. If there is any truth to this then we would need to know the minimum rate of unconscious dreaming one needs to maintain before that can experience some negative psychological issues. I would guess that rare of normal dreaming would have to drop below 50% before one experiences long term negative effects, but this is just speculation. So how often do you lucid dream compared to normal dreaming? I have probably only experienced an extended lucid dream less than 20 times in my entire life, although I have gone through periods where I had a 3 or 4 over a short period, like a week or so. I used the qualifier of extended because I have had many countless experiences of small snippets of being lucid in dreams, but they always collapse back into the unconscious dream state very quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if having short moments of lucidity is a normal part of almost every dream cycle. Since by their nature they are fleeting and gone before you have much time if any to recognize it fully they are forgotten as if you didn't experience it at all. If there is any truth to this then it would be unhealthy not ever experience lucidity while dreaming. What are your thoughts and how often do you experience these extended periods of lucidity as you describe them?

Kirstin Strand

1y↑1

Lucid dreams not healthy? Nonsense, change doctors!

Kirstin Strand

1y↑1

You may enjoy the youtube channel of Jeffery Mishlove's.

Frank Canonica

1y↑1

Thanks for your thoughtful replies. I had stopped lucid dreaming, some years back, not by will, it just ceased. i did in one sense feel like at worst it deprived me of sleep. Lucid dreaming can be tiring. But I can not describe the utter ways that it was exciting, and powerful when happening. It was like being inside a dream as the director of that dream and aware at most times, not all, that you were dreaming. Recently I have been taking Kratom. And we can discuss the ramifications of that certainly. It has been for me beneficial in relaxing me during waking hours. The odd extra unexpected benefit has been lucid dreaming has come back depending on some very specific dosages and times talking it. The dreams are intensely personal at times or really all over the place in content at others. I m fully aware that I am dreaming and again for the most part in control of the dreams. I can wake up thinking about the dream and go back to sleep continuing them. I had one recently where I experienced Gaffa. The state where you may exclaim or cry out but the words come out like in slow motion and garbled. In this instance I was calling to my wife to see something I was seeing, yet the words were so hard to get out and stuck in the quicksand. I was as Kate Bush said “Am I suspended in Gaffa”. At the same time I was fully aware of the complication and redirected the dream in a better direction. In the dream I could see the moon shining brightly in the night sky, and at the same time I could see the moon shining in the night sky in the room. At one point I got out of bed, looked at it and went to get a drink of water. Then went back to bed and resumed the dream. Most people have never experienced this.

Chris Scott

3y↑4

Very interesting. My subjective testimony is that I think that I start dreaming as soon as I lose consciousness. However my sleep patterns are atypical as I'm a poor sleeper.

Biggy Beans

49w

I can add support to your experience too, not too long ago I stayed over at a friends and slept on the couch and had one of the most memorable nightmares in recent years. It was freezing and pretty uncomfortable, I found it hard to get to sleep and recall waking up once but we went to sleep around 3ish and the note I wrote in about my nightmare was at 5ish so dreaming is definitely possible before REM sleep. That’s something I’ve proven to myself but the internet is full of liars and it’s hard to take another persons account genuinely.

Xain

2y↑1

So, in other words:
REM sleep is like a glowplug. It's your brain booting up periodically, bringing you to a semi-aware state, because in a world of predation, you don't want to be comatose for 8hrs at a time. And we remember our dreams better during this state because we're semi-aware. But we dream for larger parts of our sleep as our brain churns out better ways to understand the world it finds itself in.

I would think people are easier to wake up in REM than in deep sleep. And after a quick search, yes, you're harder to wake up in non-REM.

Our cycles are a carryover from our primate-mammaliam-chordate ancestory.

Adam H

3y↑3

that little rational, goal directed part also never goes away when you are on a boat in the ocean (or large lake)... at least for many... the 'sound' of a dragging anchor is how they should have reached the people in inception
edit, and this video has taken me a lot longer than an hr to get through.... i sort of find it hard to believe that no one subjectively thought that dreams and REM are not entirely connected... pretty sure I'm not the only one who's had a horrible hung over morning filled with broken light sleep mixed with disappointing dreams. Definitely not REM sleep, but really vivid dreams; even happens when sober and you have a bad nap. Or when you skip in and out of a dream, like a tripped out fanboat ride through the everglades.

Biggy Beans

49w

Daydreaming / day time naps (1< hour) and nights where I’m waking up and falling asleep constantly used to result in the most vivid dreams I can recall, I find it hard to believe (honestly don’t believe it) that REM sleep is the only period where you dream.

Asger Vestbjerg

3y↑2

Great Talk!
Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us :-)

Scott Cupp

1y↑1

Last night my dream was about an ex spouse who passed on. We were friends in real life up until the day she died. She appeared in a dream last night and she was losing blood and she was wounded. When the last drop left her body she said, "I will see you in Heaven". I replied "Yes I believe that. The dream goes on. Next thing I know she is not passing but recovering because earlier in her life she had a procedure done that had reserve blood and her brain would release the reserves after losing all of the blood in the body keeping the brain and body alive until the body can coagulate the cause of the blood loss and make more blood. It was fascinating. Next thing I know we are both on some sort of emergency vehicle going to the hospital to stabilize her and I remember feeling all of the emotion that I would feel in an awake state. I felt everything. When you are in a dream, that IS your reality. Reality is whatever your brain tells you it is. Reality is what you are experiencing. Reality=a construct of the powerful brain.

ben jones

Grateful.

At 57:00 you mention the fruedian case for dreams protecting sleep and that subjectivity is included in your bigger study and bringing the psyche back into study of nuero pschology. How far along is this larger study I feel I can contribute.

Bella Krinkle

I do not believe that we dream to protect our sleep.
Freud was only hypothesizing.

ross hill

2y↑1

Australian aboriginals are always initiated via dreams, the dream teacher will meet the initiate in a dream and teach them what is required. The same process also occurs in Tibetan Dream Yoga and has beern described by Carlos Castaneda in his fictional books about lucid dreaming. In Scotland witches ( both male and female) were called weirds. Weird is derived from the idea of a web, a web of consciousness that enables people to communicate telepathically and via dreams. The idea that dreams are simply unconscious desires or mental detritus is very limited and shallow. You can develop the power to become conscious during dreams and hence the abilty to control the dream and dreaming body with which you act and communicate with others.

night of the world

Freud makes a return in Lacanian psychoanalysis. Would be great to hear an Embodied Cognition theorist in conversation with Mark.

David Ferris

3y↑1

I accept Mark Solms' finding that people who don't dream are likely to be awake more. However, I am still unpersuaded by the Freudian conclusion that it is dreams that help keep us asleep. From my personal experiences of sleep apnea, I tend to suspect that third party factors reduce dreaming, and increase wakefulness.

As a separate matter, I very much enjoyed the discussion of refutability, the valid criticism of psychoanalysis for its lack of refutability, and then the attempt to test Freudian dream theory. Mark Solms' work is fascinating and very valuable. He also explains things in ways that make the ideas accessible.

labibbidabibbadum

One of the most fascinating lectures I’ve ever heard. (Three degrees under my belt, so I’ve heard a few).

Joseph Alibrio

Such a great presentation .. i really understood alot from this !!! Thanks x

Leon Stevens

2y↑1

I used to have dreams in which someone spoke in a foreign language. When I checked the text the next day, I found it to be just gibberish. After that,when someone in a dream spoke in a foreign language, the speech was muffled or the speaker immediately stopped speaking as if my brain doesn’t want to be embarrassed the next day by my exposure of its nonsense. Also I find that I can control nightmares so that they don’t get out of hand. I can edit them in progress. Am I cheating the dream process?

fburton8

3y↑3

Random anecdote 1: If I wake up in the middle of the night, the quality of the dreaming that I remember is different from when I wake up in the morning. The morning dreams tend to be much more involved, dynamic, multiple connected scenes, 'cause and effect' albeit often nonsensical. Wee small hours dreams are more static, single-image, single-theme and less fun.

Kirstin Strand

REM sleep in morning.

ThePeaceableKingdom

Interesting

Emily Tienne

Same.

fay fly

2y↑3

Amazing research and interesting findings. The only thing I was wondering was , in the last part ( dreamers sleep better or not) why the experiment was measurd for 8 hours? What if those who do not sleep at night , sleep at day to compensate. In this case, I think the exoeriment time should be the whole 24 hours then the data are comparable.

Traumbewusstsein

2y↑3

Very interesting, thank you!
I would like to add that in the recent past we discovered, that lucid dreaming is linked to prefrontal cortex activity (other than normal dreaming). Thus, I would suppose, people with brain damage in this area should have less to no lucid dreams.

Coline

2y↑2

Interesting, do you have the reference paper?

Littleprinceleon

Some YT video on that discovery, anybody?

Traumbewusstsein

2y↑1

@Littleprinceleon It seems my link was deleted. So you could search for a study by Dresler et al from 2021: "Neural Correlates of Dream Lucidity Obtained from Contrasting Lucid versus Non-Lucid REM Sleep: A Combined EEG/fMRI Case Study", Sleep Journal. Dunno of any YT videos on it tho

Kirstin Strand

3y↑1

I would suggest that dreams MAY have components of wish fulfillment, but they are Primarily for Conflict Resolution in your REPRESSED emotional life.
Purely Psychological. Although I sometimes have FUTURISTIC dreams that I DO NOT YET UNDERSTAND. Quite fascinating, actually!

user990077

3y↑6

58:28 I love the way the child has drawn little thought clouds that bend down to the large dream thought cloud. Good little artist there.

1977misfit

2y↑1

I happen to have a r.e.m. sleep disorder, wherein my r.e.m. periods are all over the place. I don't sleep well, and haven't for as long as I can remember. I am 44, and have had this condition, probably my whole life. Needless to say, I spend a lot of time dreaming. My sleep is disturbed regularly throughout the night.

Pamela Collins

3y↑1

Fascinating information! Thank you so much for doing this!!!

deka anyways

3y↑1

What about the opposite direction?: A good night sleep helps us do dream
One step forward or deeper: A good real life escorts us to have a good dream(y life)
Just kidding and many thanks for your entusiastic as well as informative talk, Solms!

Rakesh Varma

Excellent lecture and the correlation between Freud’s theory of dreaming and brain physiology quite remarkable.

William Budd

3y↑2

One thing that happens during sleep is the sorting of memories into those to keep and those to destroy. The memories that are to be kept are transferred into permanent memory without any conscious help from us.

Lavoura Política

My question is very direct and simple: what is the quality of sleep like for patients who lost their ability to dream due to damage to the perception synthesis area? Only the answer to this question can really suggest that Freud was right in assuming that dreams protect sleep. After all, if these patients sleep well, they don't need dreams for restorative sleep.

Eyeball Soup

It seems to me that when we are asleep our body is resting and healing but our brain is in a way more active than when we are awake.

Learnatics Zu

My dreams r not chaotic nor crazy. It's a copy of life but within me. Everything is as realistic as possible. Once the only signal that it was a dream was that i did not have my passport in my left pocket and that was the only difference as far as i noticed 😂

Andre Studio

2y↑1

When we go into the sleep state, sight, sound, smell, touch the conscious senses, are reduced forcing one to focus on the subconscious. Perhaps both conscious states are equally active all the time. Difference being which state we can readily focus on, whether senses are at full activity or reduced.

Topher S

2y↑4

The suffering we inflict on animals in the name of science is abominable

dermotbalson

3y↑1

Wow. Very interesting and well presented, thank you.

Life Is My Opportunity☀️

3y↑3

💭If you can see it in your mind you can hold it in your hands🤲🏾

Mileyard Gigahertz

3y↑2

Exactly! Just like how if you can smell it with your nose, you can kick it with your feet 🦶

Itzybitzyspyder Productions

This is untrue and harmful.

Frogz

can you hold the abstract theory of math in your hands? not the written form of it, the actual MATH itself

Kirstin Strand

@Frogz I don't know, what does Donald Hoffman think. I'm guessing that he would agree with you.

Kirstin Strand

LIMO Yes, however, it may take a lifetime to emerge/evolve.

Box Elder

2y↑1

I have always dreamed of hearing a great lecture on sleep. Funny I am just waking up to this playing.

Daniel Coimbra

Note-taking: According to Dr. Solms's presentation, dreaming exhibits double dissociation with REM sleep, and also cannot plausibly be construed as a black box "synthesis" process over random cortical stimulation induced by the brain stem.

Kathleen Thompson

2y↑1

As a non-sleeper and possible non-dreamer very grateful to have better understanding on what may be a cause for not sleeping. Is there any natural way of increasing dreaming?

Kayla Morris

I have an insomnia disorder and physically exhausting myself during the day is a great way to ensure I don't struggle to sleep and will dream and recall it

Eye See

2y↑1

Very good presentation, Thank You. Delusions from yourself or hallucinations while dreaming for purpose or results to a good nights sleep? What I find interesting is myself, sometimes while awakening I don't want to until I find out what happened next, like you wouldn't walk out of a movie in the middle of it. If this is me "my mind" creating this dream how do my Delusions or hallucinations stay one step ahead of myself, since I want see what happens next? I mean How many am I anyways? lol kinda

Eye See

Assuming we all Dream with in our own box. Anyway what color change, from lets say a clear gem to a ...... Color change after fast transport. Any one? Get out box?

Robert Hermens

2y↑1

Interesting. How does the good doctor know that dreaming protects sleep. Is it possible that sleep is protecting the dream state?

It’s quite possible that dreaming has multiple functions. So many moving parts!

Brian Morton

2y↑2

I have Parkinson's Disease. I know that vivid dreaming is one of the symptoms, but I've always had vivid dreams as long as I can remember. Going to be when I was a child, I considered like going to the pictures and looked forward to sleeping. Does this mean in children , vivid dreaming could be a presymptom diagnostic tool. I also see swirls of colour drifting across my eyes when they are closed and not just in light conditions.

Anna Bradshaw

I’m no scientist but it may be possible that children with vivid dreams and a family history of Parkinson’s are more likely to develop the disease in their adulthood. As you said, vivid dreams are a symptom and may be something which develops early on

wdujsu b

3y↑4

This was oné of my favourite talks in a long tíme! Thanks!

Alex K

3y↑13

Absolute badass. Thanks for having Solms on.

StasherDragon

2y↑2

I have wild, detailed dreams.

I would watch my cat sleep. I would see her REM. When she wakes up right after and sees me, she pleasantly meows at me. I wonder, "Are you telling me your dream? Are you happy to see me? What are you trying to tell me?"

Zack S Mitchell

2y↑1

I personally know of no better person to ask this (a bit unrelated) question to than yourself, sir: Why is it that getting away from a task for just a few minutes (doing crosswords, practicing piano, etc.) and then returning to it produces an instant great improvement in whatever one is attempting. I always have (and always do) find this practice NEVER to fail?

joemck85

1y↑1

I'd attribute it to a mix of two things: You subconsciously keep mulling the problem over and have had time to think about it. And probably even more importantly, you're approaching it with a fresh mind. That is, you had a bunch of thought patterns that were going down wrong paths and they were clouding your ability to form new different ideas, and now you've discarded them by taking a break. A break also removes some frustration, another thing that made you keep hard-headedly hammering away at wrong solutions.

Zack S Mitchell

@joemck85 I agree. I must also say (if I haven’t already) This “getting-away” technique NEVER fails for me!

HL65536

3y↑1

So, if a patient is still able to dream, but dreams less frequently and has trouble sleeping, could stimulating dreams help sleep? Are there ways/drugs to do that? Can somebody do a study about this?

sorses

I feel like when I dream, its always like my brain is just doing random things and then eventually some certain thing takes hold and the dream kind of revolves around that

Kirstin Strand

What takes hold is your Unconscious Mind, acting out something from your past. Look into Jungian Psychology if you want to understand more.

Christopher Michaels

Have you looked into how these ideas, neurological experiments, might apply to hypnosis that can be said to involve wilfully dropping inhibitions and can spark hallucinations that seem like waking dreams?

Savant Of Illusions

I’m a savant with a dreamy post wake experience and some gnarly sleep disorders. My art is showing even extreme genius feats of art cannot adjust some cognitive features of my brain i.e. I don’t see upside down even if I am drawing something upside down. Yes, I draw in 360 degrees without knowing it. I believe I’m just drawing lines with my favorite digital brush. It’s extreme and I’m a new savant as weighty as Daniel Tammet.

DasAntiNaziBroetchen

Ok dudette.

Outpost H

3y↑2

Thanks for the excellent lecture. But it creates more questions than answers. 'Dreaming protects our sleep'. Why have we evolved such a mechanism? Why not just not 'sleep'? Are dreams distractions to hold our attention while the man behind the curtain does his magic? Whatever that maybe.

jolima

2y↑1

22:00 Psychoanalysis is basically all about analyzing the projections going on - in ourselves and in our relationships. So it's not really disproving the therapeutical Method of Freud - maybe his neurological assumptions, but he always said, that once neuroscience advances, some of his methods might become obsolete. However nowadays neuroscience is still not advanced enough to explain exactly how those "random" neurons are formed into a film like narration - and even less what the meaning we MAKE out of these stories tell us about our psyche.

jolima

Ups, should have watched until 42:17 before writing this comment :) - but its still an interesting development. Lets see what I need to comment once I finish the video...

1h ago

the dreams I remember are just before I wake up. many times I have woken up crying, laughing, or scared like jumping off my bed. Many dreams repeat. Sometimes a dream wakes me up, then I fall sleep just to have the previous dream that woke me up, continue. Many dreams however feel like warnings, some i was able to explain several years later. I have dreams in languages I can speak but mostly in the language I speak the most rather than my mother tongue.
Now, his definition of dreams is interesting. I never connected that if you can generate dreams you can also generate psychosis? that these two are generated in the same part of the brain by the same mechanisms? I will have now to search on that and learn more.
thx for sharing his research.

PhiendishPhlox

3y↑2

I'd like to know more about the ramifications of these findings. Can dreams actually be interpreted in terms of our deepest desires? How do we interpret nightmares, especially those that wake us up (if dreams are meant to keep us asleep)? A common theory of dreams links them to the processing of memories: how does that fit in with these findings, or does it? Why do people with PTSD have nightmares related to their trauma? There's so much more from a psychological point of view that I want to know!

peter catterall

3y↑1

My ex wife had PTSD when we met at work , my first night sleeping with her frightened me to death nearly had a heart attack 😯in a deep sleep I was woken abutly by her screaming so loudly and as I held her she calmed down , this continued every night for months until she knew unconsciously she had me there and felt safe .

Rajendra Divecha

I was expecting more findings from this research!

1h ago

now, after many years of paying attention to the quality of my sleep and making hard efforts to dream, I can wake up from bad dreams and fall asleep to meet my quota of at least 8hr of good sleep. if I don't get a good deep sleep where I literally drawl and leave proof of it and nothing can wake me up even if there's a 10.0 earthquake, then I get sick with the flu or cold, so I have made a conscious decision to make sure I sleep deeply and produce dreams. what I also realize, is to purposely reduce my anxiety and stress, I eat healthy food and exercise, and go to bed at about the same time, the room must be dark w no noise otherwise I use earplugs then I can sleep. if no sleep then I rather call in sick and cancel all activities until my sleep quota is met. Discipline and purpose is the key.

Joseph Donais

48w

I have a traitorous mind when I am asleep, thinking I am awake. It will even go so far as to provide evidence that I am awake and I acknowledge it. Evidence that awake, would be quite absurd. During lucid dreams, no matter how hard I attempt to effect the dream, I might as well be pounding sand and even that is not given.
I also would care to counter Freud's theory. When awake I can have most horrible unbidden thought that is rejected as fast as it had entered my mind... after I have overcome the shock of my surprise. It is abso-freak'n-luetly NOT a thing of my desire. Even awake my mind can be traitorous to this extent.
My conclusions at 60;
Sometimes such as this gives me pause to wonder if such horrors are committed by those who act them out. I say a thought is not mine until I decide to own it.
Yes, it is akin to having a bad roommate. Yes, I am on disability for bi-polar schizophrenia, what of it?
I am 60yro and I have strong arms as I have never had power steering.
I am very glad paranoia is not involved as is often the case. I do not think I could drive this thing without power breaks.
Yes, hole-ly sh*t.

Emily Tienne

2y↑1

Why are the most fascinating dreams, ones that tell an elaborate story become lost from memory even fifteen seconds after waking? It’s as though someone has hit the delete key.

Deepankar Mukherjee

2y↑1

We can definitely say Freud had a very deep intuition if not proof

Frogz

3y↑6

hey, doctor Solms, i suffer from aphantasia BUT i can dream, lsd and mushrooms dont work on me nor do edibles but there has been chemicals that can put me into a dream like state artificially, i am not 100% sure but i am pretty confident that it is seratonin based, i am severely lacking naturally in seratonin but a combination of ssris and agonists can induce dreams and form connections that without the chemical enhancement, would not be made

KodÄk

3y↑3

All I know is I LOVE to sleep AND dream. Someone should investigate the role of nicotine in dreaming and addiction. A nicotine patch can provoke some of the wildest dreams (and nightmares) you could ever experience! When I quit smoking after 35 years, I could not sleep for a couple weeks, and ended up losing my job b/c I could not concentrate.

andymouse123

3y↑2

Me too.

Arald Jean-Charles

I never had a meaningless dream, they might be crazy, illusory, but never meaningless to me; but you would never know.

If you believe something in your dream then that dream is meaningful, untrue maybe, but nevertheless meaningful. Lest we throw away all novels, all poetry, all fiction. The lower brain understands emotions. Just as the reticular “I” make sense, so does it’s emotions.

Manny Espinola

52w

Thank you for this video. "Dreams protect sleep."

zirklutesKerpa

Wonderful video! Thank you!

Harry Hercock

2y↑2

Thank you Professor Solms for your presentation. I worry that in coming to your conclusion that dreams are a mechanism to maintain or protect sleep, as you propose, you are missing the main game. You use evidence that damaged brains have damaged sleep with no dreams & claim that that that is evidence supporting your hypothesis. It seems over simple. Sleep states and dreaming are important for good brain health & it seems reasonable to propose that rem sleep & dreams have important roles & when they are disrupted by drugs or physical damage those roles are disrupted with one side effect being diminished sleep efficiency. To propose that dreams themselves are the main game in quality continuous sleep seems to be jumping the gun. The diagrams you presented showed the absence of both dreams & rem sleep. Apart from sleep inefficiency what other effects are occurring in the patient? Surely it is the totality of these that is the main game, not the dreams alone. You seem to be making an error similar to Freuds.

You acknowledge that these are ill patients but don't seem to qualify your enthusiasm for your hypothesis with a rider that many processes are in play including the brain trauma, subsequent drug therapies, therapeutic setting, and psychic trauma of the patients that may all contribute to the effects you are seeing. I am sure as an experienced scientist you are accounting but in doing this you may be excluding data that will lead you to the main game.

I have some of your publications and enjoy your RI & other OL presentations. I look forward to what comes next

Kind regards h

Daniel Kellis

Perhaps while we're dreaming, our brains expel the cerebrospinal fluid that has flowed into the brain between REM cycles, like a tide washing through the brain, and our dreams keep us mindlessly entertained while this important brain washing process is taking place.

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