Time
Michael Armstrong Lyrics


cnother turning point, a fork stuck in the road
Time grabs you by the wrist, directs you where to go
So make the best of this task and don't ask why
It's not a question but a lesson learned in time

It's something unpredictable
But in the end is right
I hope you had the time of your life

So take the photographs and still-frames in your mind
Hang it on a shelf in good health and good mind
Tattoos and memories and dead skin on trial
For what it's worth, it was worth all the while

It's something unpredictable
But in the end is right
I hope you had the time of your life

It's something unpredictable
But in the end is right
I hope you had the time of your life

It's something unpredictable
But in the end is right
I hope you had the time of your life





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PyroMancer2k

At the end of the video when he mentions if two metronomes get out of sync don't assume it is a change in time I think is the mistake a lot of physicist seem to make. You'll hear physicist talk about how approaching the speed of light slows down. One example involves a clock that ticks based off a photon bouncing back and forth. Which at rest the photon can bounce back and forth at full speed and the clock runs normal. But the closer the ship gets to the speed of light the slower the clock ticks because the photon can only travel at the max universal speed of light. So while it bounces back and forth it goes to one side faster but it takes longer to return since the other plate is moving away so fast and the photon has to catch up.

The problem with this is their is a physical mechanism measuring "time" or more accurately how many times the photon bounces. Now of course this slowing effect is by comparison to another mechanism which is not moving and thus has more events during the period at which only one occurred on the moving ship. Experiments like this have been done with fast moving aircraft and space ships and were used as "proof" that Relativity was correct about time distortion.

Yet I would like to pose a quite obvious counter. If I freeze a clock to near absolute zero and cause it to tick slower would anyone take me at my world that I have created a "stasis" field that slows time? Or in the case of the photon clock if I were to fill it and the room with gases known to slow the speed of light to a near stop. Would anyone take my claims of having a room where I am slowing time?

The answer is of course NO, because that would be absurd. Everyone recognizes that time itself remains unaffected. You are simply slowing the number of reactions, or events, that occur within the confined area by changing the environment effecting the mechanisms in the clocks. Yet when they put a clock on a high speed object and notice a change they claim it is a result of the fabric of time being distorted, instead of the more obvious answer of the mechanisms being effected.

The reason they claim the time distortion view is true is because they go under the assumption that the people on the ship see time as passing normally. Since the human mind can not precised the nano second difference these clocks measure and we don't have a ship that can travel near the speed of light this is complete and utter speculation. And even if it were true it posses the problem that humans are not good at keeping track of time so they would rely on the ship's clock to tell them how much time has pasted. Plus traveling at such high speeds could have a result on the physical body and chemical reactions that occur within in it much in the same way they effected the clock. Yet just like if you freeze someone with cryogenics it does not mean that you have stopped time, you have simply stopped or slowed the reactions within that persons body.



Peter Kerr

I am now 62yrs old, as a child in primary school I was taught a prayer than ended my religious beliefs. The prayer contained the words, "God, from before time began" and those words blew my little mind.
I asked everyone "what is time"? and I got various versions of the same stories I read here today. When I got to high school and had a physics teacher I asked him and he said it is movement, any movement at all requires time. That did not quite scratch my itch, but I knew what he was getting at.

I believe I know the answer to what it is and why there is an arrow of time and it's simple, if I'm correct.
I believe that time is created by the expansion of space and the expansion is slowed by Gravity.

that means that time is relative to your velocity, your position in a gravity well such as a planet or according to your mass. I think those things are already established about time and time dilation but I don't think it has been nailed to the expansion and that mass through gravity slows the expansion as does velocity through it's equivalence to mass and therefore gravity.

if you can picture what I'm saying then it all makes sense, the arrow of time is due to the fact that space is expanding, not contracting, there goes another mystery, easily understood.



The TruManZoo

excellent video for starters.

time is an agreement that had a beginning.(invention or realisation) time exist in man, as it needs an observer to keep track of movement. distance equals time, time does not equal distance, we can stand still and have time pass.
our compete perspectives changes every second with every eye movement, our notion of time is perpendicular to
our perspectives at all times as we experience light in a 2 dimensional flat manner. we cant feel time with our eyes closed we must the taught about the concept of time.

calendars come from time vs time comes from calendars.
what an interesting debate/clash of views!!! i think the latter is correct. what do you think? time before man? or man before time? i think the latter is correct, and i think we based our concept of time on further dividing up days (representing periods of light) time comes from seeing movement in the sky that we based days hours minutes etc on, the concept of time still grows (pico seconds now?) as our need for finer division through more precise technology does to create more precise technology to keep time with...man's concept of (invention of) time (and math as well) is based on the preexisting concept of the calendar i say.

Regarding Time:
After some deep contemplation, i reduced down to the minimal number of 5 elements, needed to construct a concept of time, that as concepts, in my opinion, all need to be incorporated in the final definition for time. So basically i deducted the concept we know as time to 5 elements that are needed for its existence minimally:
1. Human observer (own set of needs for existence) > 2. Visible light (own set of needs for existence) > 3. Two objects with Mass (or 1 object and a fore/back ground to compare against, with enough density that we can see and track) > 4. Movement (not too fast, not too slow) > 5. Distance (distance needs space).
what follows is my personal, final definition for time, but organized and worded a little nicer:
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Time: A sequence of constant, additive, duration's agreed upon, to separate moments, based on the perceived movement of a visible body with mass, over a set distance in space, that signifies and functions as a rate of change that individual humans experience, and thus is relative.



i personally think the universe we receive is all made up of light, all we see from above the horizon is essentially light projected from the back on our atmospheric particles with absolute surfaces met by light to interact with as natural finer than the finest pixels. represented close to us around our earth.so as light is electromagnetic wave, and all we receive from the universe is optically captured and represented in a 2d manner i think the universe is electromagnetic in nature.



Preston Pittman

Life, at what should be prime,
has revealed somewhat a crime.

The moments throughout life's climb,
ticked away without a chime.

It seemed time passed in rhyme,
but it was I that passed in time.

By: Preston Pittman "Time"



All comments from YouTube:

thok ling

This is now one of my favourite videos on YouTube. I've been studying chemistry over the past year or so, informally, and this ties in nicely with my studies thus far.

Very nicely postulated, Michael Armstrong.

Bobcat 1967

The moment he said "The universe does not exist in time but time exists in the universe" there was a Big Bang inside my skull! Damn near lifted me out of my chair.

Mark DeWall

Hands down, one of the finest presentations to date from the TB team!

wchiwink

Thank you Thunderbolts....best description of time I've heard, being clear and using simple language and terms>>>Time is a sequence of events, and exists in our universe but not the other way around....easier to understand than much of the other material out there

Sahid Miller

This is well thought out, scholarly in fact, I'm interested on how one would come to these conclusions. Are there any resources we could get our hands on to explore this further?

Pete Kuhns

It's been 14 years since I read it but I'll never forget this: in the Big Bang Never Happened, Lerner says time is a construct of the human mind. Which means it can't be slowed down nor sped up - it's simply a mental construct we somehow created and all agreed to (well, those in the wage-slave world). It seems our guest speaker here is saying something similar.

Rope

So you would say we are not partaking in a wage-slave world? Also, just because it is a construct of the mind does not mean it is not real. I heard a quote once: "You are dreaming, but the dream is real.".
Meaning that your true nature is non-physical (conciousness), and that what you experience here is just a construct of the Universal Mind.

This gets into the occult really quick because mainstream science has been reluctant to study it. As they hold to a reductionist materialistic paradigm, which is useful, up to a certain point. Which they have now hit.

Pete Kuhns

Demon Prince: One of the upshots of this concept (i.e. time is a human construct) is that the endless stream of time-travel movies are ridiculous and impossible. Which of course begs the question: if time travel is impossible then why do they keep making stupid time-travel movies?

laela1

I feel we do time-travel movies because we all wish it so....fun to imagine if we could....

newilluminati

The author here is not saying time is a human construct. And Demon Prince - avoid all docturds.

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