"We want to give people something sincere and genuine, not something that t… Read Full Bio ↴"We want to give people something sincere and genuine, not something that they're going to forget the next day," says singer Thomas Cupp.

Bound for greatness with that kind of goal, trio More Than Electric (MTE), made up of members singer/guitarist Thomas Cupp, Brian Pauline on bass and drummer Brennan Willis, is setting out to do just that with their blend of pop and raw rock tunes that take you back to the days of some serious classic rock.

With such a vast amount of musical groups emerging in recent years, MTE is refreshing and different. Everyone is trying to be different…so how are they doing it so they don't become part of some passing trend? By having a musical style that is constantly evolving and relevant delivered with extreme passion and conviction. Playing concerts large and small, MTE live performances deliver a show with unquenchable energy that leaves people wanting more.

Since their debut indie release, "YesterdayTodayandForever" in 2001, More Than Electric has made some major strides spiritually and musically. While playing out the past couple years, the band has played shows with artists such as Sanctus Real, Five Iron Frenzy, The Benjamin Gate, Tree63, Third Day (Spirit Song Festival), Bleach and several others.

Whatever the future may hold for this trio, More Than Electric agree that God's calling is the driving force behind this music and everything they do.

wind it up
More Than Electric Lyrics

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Barenaked Ladies Stop, drop and roll and I'll tell you where I'm…
Bird J Bird on the fucking beat Run it up that skrilla…
Body Language Vol. 8 I'm gonna back it up hey yo Baby you sucked on…
c.n.m (And at this time it is my pleasure to bring…
C.N.M. Well, alright How come your money's always in the bank? …
Chris de Luca vs. Phon.o D.O.L.L.A Aye, run it up, run it, aye, run it up,…
Clarence Carter I see you walk with him, I see you talk to…
Dogbowl & Kramer If you don't believe, I'll be your Captain Steve. You can…
Dru-Ski Swing It Up Hva kan shawty gjøre for en million? (Uh-Huh) Sa…

Gwen High on the hills with the lonely goatherd Lay-od-lay-od-lay…
Gwen Stefani/André 3000 High on the hills with the lonely goatherd Lay-od-lay-od-la…
Gwen Stefani/Pharrell Williams High on the hills with the lonely goatherd Lay-od-lay-od-lay…
LIVING ROOM - The Prodigy Wind it up! Wind it up! Equal rights and justice…
moe. Be on my side I'm on your side This time and every…
Mr. Bennett There ought to be a law against it To lead a…
Nitty I'm taking shots to everybody from the bottom to the…
Partners-N-Crime I ran it up on my own I never asked for…
Prodigy Wind it up! Wind it up! Equal rights and justice…
Rob Sky Wind it up Wind it up Wind, wind, wind Wind it up Wind it…
Rob Thomas Wind it up and let it go When it gets to…
Sheek Louch Feat. Ghostface Whoo, yeah, turn it up Alchemist, you know what to do Bump…
Stefani Gwen High on the hills with the lonely goatherd Lay-od-lay-od-lay…
Steriogram Close the mockers world Planets in the same room Sentimental…
The Allstars Back it up If I had da bag I wouldn't be braggin I'd…
The Prodigy Wind it up! Wind it up! Equal rights and justice…
The Prodigy vs C.N.M. Well folks, It's time to kick ol school Uh. So you…
The Prodigy [1992 - Experience] Wind it up! Wind it up! Equal rights and justice…
The Prodigy [Experience Expanded (Remixes & B-Sides)] El Cuarto Elemento (Laugh) El Cuarto Elemento ese Original s…
The Prodigy [Wind It Up (Rewound) Electra 66319-2 1993] Wind it up! Wind it up! Equal rights and justice…
Thompson Twins Here comes the queen bee in her little mini dress Shouting…
Todrick Hall And I′m yours yours (And I'm yours yours) Somebody told me …
Various Artists High on the hills with the lonely goatherd, lay-od-lay-od-la…
[unknown] Rest in peace to my granny Maimie I'll always love…

We have lyrics for these tracks by More Than Electric:

All Buried in our fears We fail to see the consequence When we…
Chorus Yesterday is gone And it won’t get any better Stop and see…
Go With Me You, you built a wall What will it take to tear…
Make Your Move Staring out the window As you watch the seasons change outs…
Mister Lonely Hey Mister Lonely Are you comin’ from the city? You’ve bee…
Never Tired Of Waiting I found myself in You All of my hopes come true And…
Ready You, you try to live life right You say that things…

Who We Are We make mistakes Do things we hate all the time We're all…

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@Elliandr

29w↑284

I looked this up and it doesn't seem very affordable compared to solar. However, for most areas, you need a permit to have wind installed on a roof, so a silent model would probably be the only option if you want wind. Also it has one big advantage over solar: Ameren (my local utility) has a net metering program tat gets zeroed out once a year which happens to be at the end of summer. This means that even if they owe you money they will just void that and remove any credits you earned from generating power in the summer. This means that you need a system that exceeds your average usage if you want a grid tied system where you don't have to pay the utilities. Wind, however, is more abundant in Autumn right after that reset date so depending on the cost might be better than solar or might work well as a hybrid system.

Looking at the numbers:

The "Liam F1 Mini Urban" model wind turbine costs around $5,450 + installation costs, goes on the roof, and generates no noise. It's based on the Archimedes screw and is advertised to produce an average of 1500 kwh per year with wind speeds of 5 m/s average, but will produce energy when wind is blowing as low as 2 m/s and nothing below that. This means that the advertised "average" will really depend on how windy your area is on average.

Getting an anemometer first would be a good idea to determine what your average will actually be. You can buy one for less than $100, but unless you plan on writing down the numbers multiple times a day every day for a year you are better off spending a bit more on a model that can log historic data. You can then use that data to determine how suitable wind is for you.

The average household in my uses 8,376 kwh a year. If we round up and assume you'd want 9,000 kwh and if we also assume each unit gives you an average of 1500 kwh a year you'd need 6 of these for a total cost of $32,700. A house that uses 9000 kwh a year will end up spending an average of $500+ a month so such a system would save $3000 a year meaning it would take 11 years for the system to be paid off assuming no maintainence is required.

@jimthomas1989

28w↑12

@@Mrbriangalvan ,
I have 4 P.M.A.s and each one is capable of making 1200 to 1800 watts each ,
One is hooked up to a V.A.W.T.
One to a water wheel
One to a bicycle
One to a 42cc gas engine

Then I have Solar Panels

So I'm using Wind , Water, Sun , Human power and gasoline for backup ,
I also have a 2000watt Generac generator .

@Elliandr

29w↑4

With solar on a grid tied system you usually need to plan for more than your average usage because utilities like to zero out what they owe you at the end of summer right after peak power production. Wind, on the other hand, peaks in Autumn (at least in my area) so you might be able to get away with a smaller system.

From what I read each one is supposed to average 1500 kwh a year when the average annual wind speed is 5 m/s. This translates to 11.18 mph which is higher than the average some states receive. Then again, increased height decreases obstacles so increases this average. You'd really need to put a good Anemometer on your roof for a year to know for sure what to expect in your area. This would not only tell you your average wind speed, but also when the wind peaks which you'd need to calculate against your local net metering rules to determine if you need a system larger than your usage.

Assuming the listed averages are correct though, 6 of these units would produce an average of 9000 kwh a year at a cost of $32,700 - not including installation and shipping costs. This is actually fairly close to the price of a grid tied solar system. Maybe a bit more expensive, but certainly not 5 times the price unless you live in an area with very little wind.

The real problem is that unlike solar systems most areas require a permit to have wind installed. They are more likely to approve a small system that doesn't produce noise which is probably why units like this can be more expensive than what we used to see.

Regarding maintaince a solar panel needs to be maintained up to 4 times every year. They have to be cleaned because dust and leaves will reduce their ability to function. Heat also tends to damage them over time leading to gradually decreased returns. Interestingly, wind turbines need just as much maintainance. I guess the advantage here goes so solar though since you could technically just install a PVC pipe to the side of your house, run it to the roof, and have it spray over the panels to clean and cool them whenever you turn on a hose making the typical kind of maintainance in solar easier to plan for whereas wind turbines need to have the oil checked meaning you have to actually go up there onto your roof. So, not more maintainance, just more difficult maintainance.

@paradiselost9946

29w↑1

solar suits battery storage as it can be made to deliver constant voltages, and the supply is fairly consistent. shade variations only.

wind... has this strange thing about its variability, power going up on the cube...

100% correct. cant beat the frontal area of a turbine. any attempt to duct it, increase the area, simply stagnates the air and reduces efficiency... people like to think "ram air" and "venturis" work like this, fail to understand that they are closed systems... the air in an open system such as the wind, it simply skips AROUND the obstruction rather than speed up THROUGH it... its the same as pressure in a column of water... a funnel in the wind, the pressure at the smaller end is no higher than the column of air over it, the velocity no higher than the wind speed itself. there is no "venturi effect" unless all the air at the larger diameter is confined to only flow in the cone... and you cant do that out in the open air.

cant beat betz, cant beat physics. adding extra surface like this just increases friction and reduces efficiency again. lucky to get 30% from even an optimised blade. good luck finding 59%... with the surface to frontal area this has, expect at best.... 0.59%!

but what can be done is alter the way you extract the energy from the wind.

batteries are stupid. generators are stupid. you cant match the load to the generator. its... complicated. if you compare a generator to the demonstration of lenz law, a magnet being dropped in a copper pipe, and start thinking about resistances if you were to cut a slit in that pipe... take that line of thought, do some maths with ohms, and suddenly it might make sense... wheres the heat, whats a load? wheres the work being done?

what we should be doing instead?

you just slam brakes on. make heat. proportional to the power in the wind and the turbine efficiency. wind speed increases, just apply more brake, more load, more heat... heat... heat... you dont need to use friction brakes, either. how did joule perform his initial experiments? the calorimeter? all you need is a load that can be applied and will still be capable of overpowering the turbine regardless of how high the windpseed is. and somewhere to DUMP the heat. STORE the heat.

we keep throwing HEAT SINKS on everything and BLOW THE HEAT AWAY. we call the heat the LOSS when the heat runs EVERYTHING.

what does heat do?
can cook on heat. heat water. dry clothes. AC works by heating a fluid to cool a fluid... a lightbulb is just a heater driven to luminescence. electricity is convenient, thats all. we have grown accustomed to it. it doesnt mean its the best way to do things, its just easier... in most cases. in just about all cases i think of using electricity... its just heat. motors and a few other things here and there being minor exceptions.

storing it as electricity? its stupid.

nukes and coal plants run on heat. steam.

the bigger the tank, the lower the losses through the walls... lot of energy in water. even more as it changes phase...

@mjs28s

27w

"how about an 8 to 10 inch walls"

I have always wondered that myself.

Even if the regulations don't require that builders need to step up and build that way and market that as it would be a great selling feature and most certainly cover the build premium over traditional garbage.

Where I move from last year there was a row of $500K townhomes going in. I walked over and looked at them and all the walls were standard 2x4, and I mean ALL including exterior walls....except the garage. The garage walls had 2x8s. Like what?!?! Why, because people don't have HVAC going in their garages so more room for insulation? How about the rest of the outside walls?

Can almost guarantee that they were simply following the building minimum requirements rather than doing better. We are talking about $500,000 units (about $150K over average home price in the area at the time) so getting into the lower end of the upper class places.

Just ridiculous. What are we talking about a cost to build going up by, $10K to $15K just to make the outer walls more insulated?

@caillaudsimon329

22w

Hey everyone, just a quick note, I invite you to check the data :

The video says that the Liam F1 (diameter = 1.5m) can produce 1500 kwh/year with wind at 5 m/s, I have serious doubt about it. First let's compute the power of the wind :
Pwind = 0.5 * p * a * v^3
With p : density of air (kg/m^3) = 1.225 kg/m^3
A : area of turbine (m^2) = 3.14 * 0.75^2 = 1.76 m^2
v : speed of wind (m/s) = 5 m/s

So the power of the wind that will be put in liam F1 will be :
Pwind = 135 W = 0.135 kW

Number of hours in a year = 365*24 = 8760 hours

So the energy of the wind in a year will be :
Ewind = 0.135 * 8760 = 1184 kwh

Wich is less than the 1500 kwh said in the video.
Morover, the wind will not go at 5 m/s 24h/24 (by far), the efficiency of the F1 is not 100% (see Betz limit) and we should have energy loss due to storage, friction or stuff like that.
I don't know where these 1500 kwh come from, if my reasoning is wrong, pls correct me, otherwise, it is unprofessional to tell these kind of numbers without quick verifications.

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@Elliandr

29w↑284

@TheyCalledMeT

29w↑8

sounds like your utility provider will put the zeroing for wind at mid autumn ..

11years at best for ROI is a bad deal, is there a tax deductible or something you left out? else solar is much better thanx to those

@larryroop2050

28w↑8

When I signed up for net metering with Ameren Illinois four years ago, I was given a choice of resetting October 1st or April 1st. To me it made the most sense to go with the April reset date. It has been my experience that having the build up of credit going into winter allows me to supplement natural gas forced air heating with electric quartz heaters. I would like to add a small wind turbine to my solar panels as a safety net to allow additional heater usage should I need to.

@Mrbriangalvan

28w↑8

Who the heck wants 6 of these around your house. Ugh,

@jimthomas1989

28w↑12

@angelofamillionyears4599

27w↑7

Interesting but you overlook the fact that the cost will be reduced once the turbines are mass produced.

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@MickPsyphon

26w↑137

The question that comes to mind is how these wind turbines stand up to winter climates, where heavy winds can often be accompanied by snow, sleet, freezing rain and temperatures below -25°C.

@lothean2099

26w↑11

Thats a good question. Never thought about that. I live in the never ending sun zone.

@mikewaterfield3599

26w↑15

Green energy advocates never ask hard questions based on less than flawless laboratory conditions. Where I live winters are fairly mild but marked by rain during the day that gets just cold enough at night to freeze thus stopping things like wind turbines and coating them in thin layers of ice. It’s a genius design, there is no one answer to the problem. I just wish here at home we were not plagued by delusional idiots. Cali residents have an inability to imagine a world beyond La.

@MickPsyphon

26w↑6

@@mikewaterfield3599
To your point about green energy sources, it seems that they're most effective the closer to the equator that you get.

Where I live wind and hydro are probably the best sources of green energy, but wind is unreliable at certain times of the year. During the winter, there's plenty of wind; and it can make -25°C feel like -40°C when it's really howling. We get a fair amount of snow. Sometimes I even need to clear the snow from the roof to avoid it causing a collapse from all the weight.

No doubt, any wind turbine would need to be cleared of that much snow; and even freezing rain will bring everything to a halt. What I'm wondering is just how difficult it is to maintain these turbines in wintery conditions; and how robust are they?

@mikewaterfield3599

26w↑7

@@MickPsyphon solar certainly is, here in the US wind farms would make a great deal of sense in the Midwest except for winter. Personally I would go for nuclear power plants exclusively operated by the USN. Everything is a trade off.

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@timkremer

29w↑220

This product produces very little power, and costs 5x per kW what solar panels cost.
Unless you live somewhere that is super windy & cloudy all the time, it probably won't outperform solar panels.
And with mechanical moving parts, it will need more maintenance.

@kirkyorg7654

29w↑4

i wonder how it would perform in places like Canada where we have extreme winter weather ice storms etc...

@RichardHarlos

29w↑35

It's not a mutually exclusive option. If you already have solar, you can install this as an adjunct. When it's bright and sunny, let solar be the primary source of energy. If it's cloudy, or windy overnight, then the turbine fills in what solar cannot do. Why the 'all-or-nothing' mindset?

@flodjod

29w↑12

was dumped by most engineers in the game years ago as just another fancy money grabber that produces very little not new at all i remember seeing prototypes of this a decade ago

@Elliandr

29w↑4

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@frustratedalien666

25w↑28

I first read about the Liam F1 turbine in 2014. There's a WaPo article about this from the same year. If it hasn't been commercialized properly in 9 years, I highly doubt if it delivers a fraction of what this video claims.

@revtks

24w↑6

I found that same WaPo article, and I tend to agree with you. If it was even moderately good, we should have seen more news and interest about them.

@musikSkool

29w↑459

In 1 year from now you will never hear anything more about this. Products don't lose because of a failure of the idea, they lose to a failure of funding and public interest.

@Anonymoususer-kz5xi

29w↑74

Or they’re bought out and the patents buried by competitors.

@ciklop4206

29w↑75

Or it's just pseudo-science bullshit

@flodjod

29w↑20

this is avery old idea .. not new just died because it failed to live up to the hype

@AndrejSulc

@dimitardimitrov9482

29w↑5

Yep, the next small form factor rooftop mounted scam. Solar is king. Prices are now few times lower than coal per watt installed capacity. On top of that solar panels are almost maintenance free and expected to last at least 25 years without significant degradation in efficiency and very possibly more than twice that. Wind has it's place but only the big commercial wind projects when installed in places that see constant winds in excess of 10m/s. These rooftop mounted flimsy turbines are nothing but a scam luring not very technically savvy people into spending their hard earned cash. I'll be surprised if any of these toys actually last more than an year when exposed to the elements. Do not buy!

@happyflea

29w↑1

Solar is only useful if you live somewhere with enough W/m2 of light to make them worth the cost (both money and CO2).

@Trenchfoot1

29w↑7

A diverse portfolio of energy generation would be better. How does solar do at night? Or during the winter?

@paradiselost9946

29w↑1

@PiefacePete46

29w↑1

@@Trenchfoot1 : I don't have hands-on experience, but I think you have nailed it. Also, storage is key; save the surplus from ALL sources to use when needed. In some cases, the grid also has a part to play by making your surplus available elsewhere, and vice versa... but they are there to make money, they ain't a charity!
There are also some lovely small-scale hydro setups, but they obviously only work for a small number of people.

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@SteveJohnSteele

29w↑20

You will still need to either store the electricity in batteries or share it with the 'grid'. Sharing your unused electricity with the grid builds up credit which can be spent on electricity when your device's output is lower than what you require.

@rolandwoltman7835

29w↑3

Except in places like Cali where the energy companies tax/charge you to death on it.

@danloosmore8099

28w↑1

Looking at the output figures of the smaller generator, you aren't going to share anything with the grid, you will need a wind speed of 10m/s just to keep the lights on!

@ccibinel

26w

The deal with the power companies vary wildly. Effectively the power company doesn't walk to take on being a battery and having power when they don't need it either. Not saying the new deal in California is fair but neither is simple net metering.

@bertholdsanchez3864

29w↑62

Why a simple device like this should cost 10000 -15000 dollars is ridiculous. Perhaps that is why no-one buys them?

@rakeshsinghprs

25w↑3

The device is simple because of all the hard work done prior building this simplified product and its related costs. If there is a mass adoption by govt implementation then yes price would drop down due to multiple players and competition in market.

@obiwan5781

25w↑7

Can't wait for China to research and redesign this for sale at 300 dollars 😅

@Tletna

24w↑1

@@rakeshsinghprs Hard work? This is a shape we've known about for hundreds of years... Yes, engineering went into making this but not as much as you think.

@rakeshsinghprs

24w

@@Tletna if it was so simple it would have been made by many intelligent people and would have used it for thousands of years now. Its looks simple until it's been created. Homo sapiens existed for 2-3 hundred thousand years and wheel was invented only 3500 BCE back. Its easy to replicate this engineered device only after it's been created but to engineer to it's perfection is what the hard work is.

@heavenbliss86

23w

@@rakeshsinghprshomo sapiens is somewhere 70 to 40 thousands of years, you are talking about homo sapiens sapiens which incudes Neanderthals and others

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@user-hh6ex9md4w

21w

Wow, that Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series sounds like a fantastic solution for outdoor enthusiasts like us! The massive capacity, fast recharging, and waterproof technology make it perfect for camping trips. Plus, the smart app control feature seems really convenient. Thanks for the recommendation!

@kermitefrog64

29w↑6

I wonder if we have enough air movement to make this worth it. I think this is a great idea and would be so much easier to install over solar panels.

@thomasmaughan4798

29w↑3

"would be so much easier to install over solar panels."
It would probably be better to install it adjacent to solar panels rather than over solar panels.

@janos5555

27w

Installing solar panels is incredibly easy. Go for solar, it is easier to install, cheaper and will produce 10 times as much energy.

@thomasmaughan4798

27w

@@janos5555 "Go for solar, it is easier to install, cheaper and will produce 10 times as much energy."
Unless you live in the specific northwest where sunshine is a rare event.

@janos5555

27w↑1

@@thomasmaughan4798 Yeah, and this accounts for maybe 2% of the global population. I live 53° North and still get over 1000kWh/kWp out of my solar panels.

@thomasmaughan4798

27w↑1

@@janos5555 "I live 53° North and still get over 1000kWh/kWp out of my solar panels."
I would be more impressed if you revealed the size of your solar panel array and whether that megawatt-hour is daily or annually or whatever. That far north you'll have a LOT of summer daylight (and very little winter daylight) but you'd need trackers since the sunlight is going to sweep nearly 270 degrees horizon to horizon each summer day.

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@@UbuteyAustralia lol ya makes me wonder what my dad was thinking when he was deciding to immigrate from the UK way back when, that between Australia and the frozen north Canada he chose the frozen north lol i blame my stepmothers family because they all went to Canada so we followed suit i have a feeling sun sand & surf would have been more my speed as even after 50+ years i still hate Canadian winters and the lack of an ocean in the middle of the country lol oh well that's life as they say lol

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@LumenPsycho

24w

Damn, quite impressive. Still, I feel like I've seen this design somewhere before. An old invention by one of the earlier inventors?
I wonder how they stand up to hazards. Like -30 degree celsius. Also, isn't 100KG on a roof a hazard itself? I guess it has to go through the roof on a built support under the roof.

@adventureisoutthere8064

23w

looks like a good kit product, 3d print the Archimedes screw and supply the mounting components as a kit. I would imagine the 10k price is installed a pro, vs a 1k price of installed by homeowner.

@rocistone6570

24w↑2

Sounds and feels like a sales video. I'm open to the idea. and would much rather have a science and engineering discussion mixed with some sense of the fiscal dynamics and the situational applications. (meaning a practical and honest look at some of the advantages and the problems of getting a wind turbine to work across a variety of situations that a homeowner might face.)

@valentigiuseppe3230

24w

I think the turbine doesn't work well because, for example, a 5kw alternator without load turns quickly and softly, but if with load a device such as a 2000w hairdryer and alternator has a hard effect and is difficult to turn.

@tbunny6305

23w

This seems like a great way to get power other than the huge price tag for something that probably costs 5% of the price to produce. Make it more affordable and people will buy but just like solar they jack the price way above production costs.

@nunyabidnez2729

28w↑3

Something found on the web. These things are up there with those water out of thin air devices.

It's a drag wind generator with no aerodynamic component increasing generation. This makes it effectively closer to a Savonious than to even a Darrieus turbine, which is to say close to the least effective common form of wind generation used for pumping water and the like. A two- or three-blade horizontal axis wind turbine and most Darrieus-style vertical axis wind turbines get an extra kick from aerodynamic lift, especially the HAWTs.
It uses an awful lot of material for the amount it generates. All else being equal, you need to increase your swept area to get more energy from the wind. A two- or three-blade HAWT uses a very small amount of material to increase the swept area because swept area increases by the square when you have a circular swept area with an axis in the middle. This thing looks as if it would increase material required more than the swept area, which means its intrinsically limited to be tiny.
There's no way to feather the thing except by turning it 180 degrees to the wind, which only partially reduces the wind load. This means that you can expect it to get blown over in high winds much more regularly than more sensible designs.
They are idiots about installation. Their site shows these things mounted directly on rooftops. Anybody with any knowledge of the physics of laminar air flow knows that all else being equal, rooftops are really stupid places to put wind generators because the wind is slow and extremely turbulent there. Putting wind turbines on masts well above surrounding obstacles and in the clearest air possible is the only way to get economic amounts of electricity out unless you build your wind generator from spare parts you have in your shed as a hobby.
They go down the path of dissing solar panels -- need maintenance!, don't work in the dark! -- and other types of wind generators -- kill birds! -- instead of publishing standard wind speed to power generation curves which every credible wind generator manufacturer does. And I say this having dug into the spec sheets and scientific papers on their website. This is two anti-patterns for the price of one.

@InevitableAtrocities

25w↑1

The biggest advantage of Solar is no moving parts , little to no maintenance

@peters972

29w↑3

5m/sec is 18kmh wind. I think the ave wind is 3 to 5. So I think I’d need about 20 on my roof.

@wilsistermans1118

29w↑11

I have seen this model before, then called the Archemedes wind turbine. Same promises, but could not deliver. Costed more than it will ever produce in energy.

@RichardHarlos

29w

The video mentioned 10-years to pay for itself.

@janos5555

27w↑1

@@RichardHarlosYeah, that is wrong. They can say what ever they want.

@michaellane1316

29w↑3

We keep coming up with ways to lower the costs of electrical consumption. What we do not concentrate on is, building components that require less energy for the same output.

@kirkyorg7654

29w

agreed as every generation of new computer parts take more power to run so it is at the point where my relatively average computer not a huge gaming rig by any means puts out as much heat as my 750 watt micro heater can just imagine how much is generated by a high end rig

@alexsmart5452

24w

We have; cars get much better gas mileage than they did in the 60s-90s, lights use much less power and are just as bright(last longer too), kitchen and home appliances are far more energy efficient. In fact you'd be hard pressed to find things that havent gotten more energy efficient in the home or businesses that are in heavy use by most people(of course we are talking about 1st world).

(as per Kirkyorg7654)Computers are one of the few things most people have that are going in the opposite direction, but that should change over time. Eventually a computer will be powerful enough that constant upgrading wont be necessary and then they can start making them more efficient..like the difference between a Car from the 1920s and a car from the 2020s.

@beebob1279

29w↑2

Remember that wind turbines will only work where there's enough wind to produce what you need. Where I live, wind turbines just won't work. But up the mountains it will do just fine

@paulpeterson4216

25w↑3

5 m/second is 11 miles an hour, so that's a noticeably windy day in most places, 2m/second, for it to produce minimum power, is just over 4 mph, which is much more common on many days in most places, but apparently won't give you much. Also, no mention is made of when the system tops out. In a (say) 40 mile an hour wind can the battery store as much power as rapidly as the turbine generates it? If not, then you have to knock some amount off of any calculation of average wind speeds.

@yeanswers

28w↑2

What if we decide to combine mini residential wind turbines with solar??? Then we can produce renewable energy all throughout the day. Just a suggestion!

@Lea_Kaderova

25w

Of course you can (and you far wouldnt be first with such system). Problem of these wind turbines is incoherent power output, as it can change from maximum to almost none in single minute, or even shorter time. Its problem for fotovoltaic too, but in branch of wind turbines, its a much bigger issue as intensity of wind is more random and changing more rapidly than sunshine. In other words, if you want wind turbine with more serious power output, you will have to somehow store energy harvested, because management of power grid will not allow you to let into grid those random peaks and voids of electricity. So with wind turbine since certain power otuput, you will need also own battery storage, which depend on batteries type cost quite a lot money (at least as much as turbine itself, but probably more), or clutch off turbine generator from turbine itself = you will not produce electricity quite often to cut off those power surges = your investition will not produce value quite often. There are also other approaches to solving of this problem. Some people store energy in form of small pump water dams (when they harvesting more electricity than its their actuall consumption, their system automatically start water pump which pumping water into higher water reservoir and once they need more energy than their micropowerplant producing, they start small water generator feed from water from that reservoir to produce more electricity). But again for such solution you need space for water reservoir, mechanization (water pump/water turbine, electric generator etc.), quite a lot of electronics and money = more investitions. Other approach is to store energy of that unstable power source as wind turbine in some flywheel, in form of kinetic energy, but its too complicated and expensive for ordinary people, same as that water dam before. Unfortunately, there are reasons why wind turbines arent so widespread as renewable energy source between people as fotovoltaic and this is it. It start to be economicaly reasonable only in much bigger dimensions (wind power parks etc.). I personaly think, it would be much better to adjust this type of turbine for water and developed some mini generator for small creeks. Such streams have also iregularities in their flow, but incomparable smaller than wind flows, so that need of complex and expensive solution of storaging of energy would fall off.

@richardmeo2503

23w

This is the type of tech that needs to be setup for free in a town and monitored. Once results are in, they will speak for themselves. No need for hype or propaganda. Winner takes all

@yokaibyte2133

26w

Nice sales pitch, now what are the cons?

Everything has a negative side to it.

How does it work in extremely rainy or snowy locations?

Why not have two small ones on your house?

@morgan79347

28w↑3

Wonder how they would work in a ice or snow storm?

@AhJodie

27w

What a brilliant question! I was thinking these would be great, but it snows and we have ice storms in Midwest USA!

@countryjoe3551

24w

They will work about as well as solar panels will during a snow storm.......

@mrpete1972

24w

They need to have these on every new build, no more giant turbines blighting the countryside with a carbon footprint of 30 years service when they can only last 20-25 years.

@jefflloyd394

29w

I want one, beautiful and ideal companion for my solar for winter boost. Thanks!

@user-ol6rd7pl5t

29w↑4

Can they be made small enough to fit on a roof, we need to make every home energy self-sufficient & cut ties with the stranglehold that big business currently has over us all, we need to get as many homes & businesses harnessing & storing it's own energy as possible.

@CaptainProton1

29w

sure they can make them small...but they'll only power 1 LED 10w lightbulb. These turbines are quite useless.

@gman21266

28w

I'm working on it.

@LAndrewsChannel

25w

So instead of relying on the "big business" that provides grid energy, you instead rely on companies that produce battery systems and energy generation devices alongside accessories and parts for them? That's a pretty ignorant and hypocritical approach.

@user-ol6rd7pl5t

25w

@@LAndrewsChannel No, I buy the initial technology obviously because I can't make it myself but once bought I don't then spend the rest of my lifegiving over my hard earned money to big business, I produce all most if not all of my energy needs for free. If you're happy giving away all your hard earned money to big business then carry on doing so, it your money, you earned it. Personally I'd rather spend my hard earned money on other things.

@LAndrewsChannel

25w

@@user-ol6rd7pl5t So on what you'd "rather spend [your] hard earned money"? A TV? A car? A vacation? Everything you spend your "hard earned money" on will go partially or completely to "big business". A TV panel, a lithium battery, a microcontroller or jet fuel are all made by "big business" because the scale is the only thing that makes these affordable to most people.
Without "big business" you won't be able to afford a lot of your things, like PV panels so saying crap like "big business bad" shows your ignorance on how the world works in this day and age.

@scottpeters1847

24w

In the UK you could use the mini to power an entire town, a couple of the big ones and we'd cover Europe with free power

@ScreamingSturmovik

26w

ya i was wondering this like 10 years ago....why not just put a bunch of small "windmills" on top of buildings, you can even have them on the side of skyscrapers to catch the updraft that is capable of catching coins that people drop off the tops of them and leave them on ledges
micro-generation became really popular awhile back, but i guess it's having a comeback

@axe2grind244

23w

In Hamburg, NY you could put one of these on a house and you could power a small city with the amount of wind we get here. Gusts are “only” peaking at around 40mph today, pretty calm out there.

@jameswinters5077

24w

using the Archimedes turbine is perfect for this use case since it automatically points towards the wind due just to its geometry but even $10k is crazy with economies of scale their profit margins must be insane they are really trying to milk their government on this one lol maybe this price includes install too then maybe it isn't too terrible but if not I could build that windmill itself in my garage for under $100 with scrap parts and under $600 if I buy the generator instead of just taking an electric motor and doing some basic modifications to increase efficiency the most expensive part would probably be the inverter and power management system you could probably pull it off for $1500 to $2000 with a bit of creativity and luck maybe even less if I am imagining the parts correctly but 4K to 5k max for these power levels and you could get it built and installed over a weekend if you have the tools and can do some basic electrician work because it is easy to fabricate the mount for the turbine the only part you would would most likely need to buy for the mount itself is the rotating DC connector and turbine itself is an easy build the Archimedes turbine can be easily made for this use case with thin UV resistant plastic, a thin metal tube, and some wire and a generator which like I mentioned earlier could be an old electric motor if you are willing lose a bit of efficiency

General Directions for those interested in DIYing this or just making a small version for a fun project for yourself or kids
just take a couple of sheets of your UV resistant plastic then trace out the desired size and pattern for your setup (there are plenty of calculators online that will give you the dimensions you need to make these Archimedes turbines since the concept for them has been around forever since you know Archimedes) cut it out and the mark the mounting points for the wires and cut your wires to the correct length to make sure you get the correct curve on your turbine later and then just attach your plastic sheets around the metal tube with adhesive, epoxy, bolted, maybe even slots cut into the metal tube or however you find to be best using what have (if using adhesive or epoxy make sure it can handle outdoor conditions for extended periods of time) then attach the wires to the metal tube and the mounting points you drew out and done you have an Archimedes turbine weld or bolt together a mount for the turbine it needs to be able to rotate freely at the base so the turbine can face the wind so you need a a rotating DC connector so you can rotate freely and the wires won't start twisting on themselves so can send power to your inverter and power management systems for the best results you should probably order some bearings too but maybe you can get away with not using them especially for smaller designs (make sure the mount isn't heavy use thin metal, plastics or composites remember this has to turn with the wind and be mounted up high like on your roof so weight is the enemy here) once you have your turbine and mount built and assembled it is just a matter of wiring it up with your inverter and power management system and done you have renewable low maintenance power

if anyone reads this and has questions or I got something wrong feel free to comment I would be happy to help in any way I can and I am always willing to correct myself. I would rather be actually right over appearing right to other to feed my ego even if I have to take the "L" in the moment.

@patrickbureau1402

24w

Small & Smart Solutions go the longest way to make this a Wonderful World
!🇨🇦

@rogerm3708

29w

Areas where the weather is harsher in almost every way other than hot, this may make more sense

@iceman9678

25w

Imagine if the wind blew all day and the sun never set.

@obiwan5781

25w

Something tells me it will take years for this to become main stream.

@JamieReneeVonTeez

29w↑2

Well if the large one produces 1,500 kWh a YEAR, we use 2500 kWh a MONTH we would need 12 of them. With each costing approximately $5,500 that would be approximately $66,000 for JUST the F1’s. Based on my current electric bill, that would take 13 years to pay back and Im sure not all will be still working that long. Not to mention my HOA would soooo not ever approve them. I am sure we will get there but not yet.

@henriquepuglia6900

27w

Could be installed in vehicles to supply energy

@superliegebeest544

23w

How it handles a huricane? Does it have an overload or a locking system? That's my only worry with windturbines

@djrichylaurence8991

22w

I wonder how long they last in the real world. Two good winters in Britain would probably kill it.

@tkkeating

28w↑1

This is one of many good ideas, how about building better homes. Instead of the standard 4 in exterior walls, how about an 8 to 10 inch walls, that would reduce your energy use. With my family many years go, we would update our houses with thicker exterior walls. Which reduce our energy use by 50%, so if you want to be efficient, build better houses.

29w↑1

Really you need to compare the surface area of a 2 blade vs pinwheel design because surface area is what matters most. If you unwind the pinwheel you would find the surface area is deceptively large.

@MrBadjohn69

23w

How does using this turbine reduce noise pollution??

@TaskSwitcherify

24w

I am all for renewable energy, but just to play the devil's advocate:
- You'd get hurt if you touched it, so it's not as safe
- Needs more maintenance due to having moving parts
- May start making noise
- Snow, ice, debris and birds may get stuck in it
- How do you stop it to clean or service it if the wind is blowing?
- Some people may find any moving turbine to be annoying

@caillaudsimon329

22w

@downtoearth1950

29w↑2

Pity that my State in Australia forbids wind to be grid connected

@ljprep6250

29w↑2

So just add battery backup and keep it all yourself. My entire system (halfway installed now) cost me about $12k. 5.4kWh solar, 20kWh 48v battery, and it will do my whole house, including air conditioning 5 months of the year with up to 3 digit temps.

@valveman12

28w↑2

Solar panels as well as wind turbines vary in their ability to produce energy.
Solar panels are dependant on the amount of sun that day, and of course, are useless at night.
Wind Turbines are dependent on the wind. No wind, no energy production, Low wind, low energy production, high wind, max energy production, and unlike solar panels, works also at night.
IMO, using both wind and solar should result in a more efficient system for producing energy.

@m_jeaudio3656

26w

Awesome technology 👍

@AoxTheGardener

20w

The text saying Hydrogen while the voice is saying microhydro made me giggle. That being said, I want a mini F1 on my house.

@cristianhariss8443

25w

Saya cuma membutuhkan pembangkit listriknya/alternator/generator nya juga sistem charger dan battery yg kompatibel dengan harga yg terjangkau..
Sebab Setiap daerah mempunyai sumber tenaga yg berbeda ada yg berlimpah angin dan ada pula yg berlimpah air..
Jadi ciptakan alternator/generator dan sistem charger battery y beserta battery dan converter 220v yg kompatibel.
Terimakasih

@Annie-_786

24w

For Billions of year, only one source of power, is most constant
Our own Star, SUN
Wind may or may not blow everytime
But Sun is always there and our mother earth rotates

@gener.1253

25w

What is the life expectancy? Why don't they state the actual output at a given wind speed. When you research solar panels, the output is clearly stated in volts, amps and max watt output. This makes it easy to size the system base on your requirements. I have been totally off grid for 6 years with solar as my primary source and wind as supplement. However I still need my backup generator if there are 3 or 4 days of rain.

@Husky_Passion

28w

doesn't the axis overheat at some time ?

@ban897

25w

So we need 10 like this to produce electricity for the whole year for a house since one average house consumes about 10-15k kwh yearly.

@fredturk6447

29w

Problem with all these small wind generators is that there is not much energy per square metre of wind cross section. The available wind is proportional to the area of collection and the wind speed cubed. The maximium possible theoretical turbine efficiency is 59% and this thing will be less efficient than that. As a rough calculation a 1 metre area of wind at 20km per hour has an energy of very roughly 120 watts so you might get 60 watts out of your generator at best.
At 30km/ hour about 150 watts. You need strong constant winds to generate any significant power with any small wind turbine.
The big wind farms with 50 plus metre blades heaps more because of their huge area. Basically you can look at any of these “revolutionary” small wind generators and determine their output power by looking at the cross section they subtend to the wind. This is not a massive breakthrough. The best you can hope is that it is not too noisy.

@AlfredoSiregar

22w

a really awesome invention

@perrylc8812

24w↑1

Unless you have wind blowing 24/7/365 you still need batteries and transformers.

@sandipsanaf4718

23w↑1

Is it available in Indian market......

@dai-ut5zl

29w↑2

we need a panel that harnesses the darkness of night😂😂😂😂😂

@abrahamjohn7081

22w

Thank you for sharing latest power Genator system

@vijaysudha5570

27w

Is there any chances to use in electrical vehicles like cars and trains where we can have additional charge.

@scuettedrauker6598

23w

Ah yes, the brutal noise pollution solar creates. Look at how fast those blades spin while the footage (during a storm) is speed up wewewewew!

@Morsoijincheol

24w

Hydropower, Windpower, Sunpower
All gathering in one

@hollowknight9158

24w

It may be quiet, but I don't see it being cheap. Also solar doesn't have moving parts, this does, which can lead to material fatigue

@sylvester2294

29w↑3

Takes a big set of blades to extract energy from wind...Swept area...These little guys might generate power in a hurricane...

@BeyondPC

29w↑1

The design wraps like a Pinwheel, if you unwound and extended the fins you would find that the blades are at least 3 times longer than the diameter of the pinwheel. The total surface are is rather large so it will definitly catch more wind than you expect.

@federicolopezbervejillo7995

29w↑2

As Sylvester said Is the swept area that maters, not the blade área. Energy is on the air that passes through. Look up for Betz limit.

@ShokujiAkai

25w

2:50 5 meters per second? Per SECOND? Sounds extremely fast... but apparently is only 11mph.

@bolgerisdashizz

24w

These would much better than solar PV panels in Ireland.

@AliKhan-xx2mm

28w

Where is it available? ??
How much it costs? ?

@dscott1524

29w↑1

No, this will not replace solar cells. There is a minimum wind velocity. I tried a wind turbine near the ocean with a on shore breeze, but it failed. Mine only needed 2.5 m/s wind velocity. Couldn't get that reliably, was intermittent at best. Except for special locations, there is just not enough energy in the wind. Get a anemometer and check your wind speed before buying into this. Most likely you won't make the 5 m/s minimum. It's a very stiff breeze. Cheers.

@tomgrigsby5401

29w↑1

about Hydro, is there a reason in cities, could the generators be placed in the sewer systems, it has moving water?

@mannphewluangdee1466

25w

5 m/sec = 18 km/hr, that's quite windy condition.

@retiefgregorovich810

24w

When I need electricity the most, dead of winter and middle of summer, the wind just doesn't blow. Spring and fall, when I don't need much electricity, that's when it blows. And this thing is way more expensive than I figured for such a simple looking device. I was hopeful, but I'll pass. Can't use solar either because of trees I'm not cutting down.