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Undecided with Matt Ferrell

3y↑1.1K

So what do think? Any uses I missed? Would you want to live in a mycelium insulated home? And thanks to Curiosity Stream ... use the code "Undecided" to get CuriosityStream for less than $15 a year! https://curiositystream.com/Undecided.

Also, be sure to check out The Future of Solid State Wind Energy - No More Blades: https://youtu.be/nNp21zTeCDc?list=PLnTSM-ORSgi4dFnLD9622FK77atWtQVv7

Oliver Stapel

This is great! To see the amazingly diverse uses of mycelium is so cool. I would go for any of those things, be it packaging, clothing or insulation. I do wonder though how the patents hamper the use of this new technology rather than help it "grow" (haha), for sth that good I find it a bit sad that so few companies / countries are pushing it.

Minecraft_gamer Pokemon

2:18 is that from Philippines the trash torn into mountain of trash

Bark Bark

I would ABSOLUTELY live in a mushroom insulated home. you know why? no more insulation dust everytime the a/c turns on. no dangerous fiberglass, and better performance. my only worry would be if/when the insulation got wet, how quickly it would mold.

Taylor S

im pretty sure hemp is the plastic of the future (it is). you should look into that

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DisgustedLuigi

3y↑16.6K

Even if it ONLY replaces plastics in packaging that’ll be an enormous win.

DisgustedLuigi

@bitsmart that’s a dumb example when pizza boxes are already recyclable cardboard.

bitsmart

yeah sure buy a takeout pizza packed in mycelium box when you come home pizza is gone what happened? mycelium has eaten you pizza and if you lucky maybe you hear the box - "burp"!!

Leynia

@Ren08 Funny, that never occurred to me. Thanks for your thought.

Leynia

@Weird-Creations I appreciate this education. I of all people cannot predict the future. I am supposing (just supposing) that either plastic products such as the ones you need will continue to be available or there will be a different acceptable products. I certainly hope so.

Leynia

2y↑1

@Ren08 Unfortunately so true. (I did not know about the Nobel Prize.)

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keyholes

2y↑251

I would love to see some big companies adopt this as internal packaging for electronics like TVs and white goods. The polystyrene used for those is the definition of single use - moulded to one product, just to get it to the consumer safely. I would love to be able to put that on my compost heap when I recycle the box it came in.

slate613

@Tali Bong Corporations of the world will never make their products more durable/long lasting for one reason.
PROFIT
If we aren't replacing our phones every 18 months, or our cars every 3 to 5 years, their profits shrink and we all know it's a cardinal sin to interfere with the shareholders profits. . .Even if all they do is sit around in their mansions and make money doing nothing.

bla bla bla

2y↑6

@Tali Bong even if we make it built to last, technology is advancing at a pretty fast rate. TVs just a few years ago looked like clunky messes that displayed a magnitude lower of the pixels. Now they’re heading towards being smart. Imagine having a TV that’s still running the first version of android with hardware that doesn’t allow HDMI input. That’s what your TV is going to feel like in 10 years even if you can keep it in perfect condition. I think having something built to last will only work once we’ve plateaued with TV technology.

Tali Bong

2y↑4

I think a better Idea would be making it a legal requirement that any goods like this for sale must be built to last, come with service manuals and be easily serviced and repaired, not be subject to any tax and even be subsidised to stop the manufacturing and sales of cheap low quality goods that have minimal warranties and break as soon as it expires.

Using mycelium is just not currently feasable because the extra weight of mycelium compared to styrofoam would result in more fuel being used for transport, and the toxic fumes released into the environment from burning additional fuel is far worse than burying some styrofoam. When clean electric can be produced in excess and all vehicles run on electric then it will be worth it.

Made of Mandrake

2y↑408

I could feel my faith in humanity restore as I watched this video. A smile grew across my face as I continued to watch. As a biochem student I could not be happier with this technology. I hope we see this tech become normal across the world.

RCisneros

Sadly as we keep adding to the population their need for resources outpaces everything else. Sorry. Nov 2022 we will be at 8 Billion.

Septette

And immediately go back down as you notice it has 2000 dislikes from plastic company shills

Skeeter

Then dude get into whatever that is and get it out there.

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kitten_processing_inc

2y↑117

I'm happy to see the promise of fungal replacements for plastics. In the meantime, plastic waste should mostly be burnt for energy rather than recycled, in most cases, though cracking it down to some kind of diesel fuel is probably worth considering too. It is incorrect to say that burning plastic produces toxins as this generally applies to open burning in uncontrolled conditions. In a properly managed combustion system it burns cleanly and you can add further steps to processing flue gases to make sure that nothing bad gets into the atmosphere. As long as we are burning virgin petroleum for fuel it seems irrational not to burn plastic waste - either way we are releasing carbon into the atmosphere but if you make the oil into plastic first you get to do something useful with it before you turn it into energy.

kitten_processing_inc

2y↑3

@Mickelodian Surname I actually don't think that's a good idea. In uncontrolled conditions burning plastic can produce some fierce toxins that simply should not be released into either the local or global environment.

Mickelodian Surname

2y↑1

A suggestion we practice in this home right now... I burn all the plastic we buy in the fireplace, I never put it in the bin. I've been doing that for 20 years now, as soon as I realized how much energy it contains, and how much was used to make it in the first place.

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The Real Saln

2y↑13

This all sounds amazing and I hope it is ultimately successful. I also hope there isn't a second wave of eating tide pods, which would take the form of kids eating their mycelium shoes.

Rocco Bierman

3y↑4.9K

Is this another one of those miracle implements that is waved in our faces, EVERYONE says YES, and then we never see it again?

David Therwhanger

@Tanker00v2 You quoted me, but subtly changed the emphasis. That is lying. You know it. I know it. You manufacture your own moral high ground by lying about what by subtly changing what others say. And then you accuse me of dirty tactics? After you started them. That is more moral high ground manufacturing. You know it. I know it. So go try to feel good about yourself at others expense. The rest of the world will see this for what it really is.

Tanker00v2

@David Therwhanger and now you go for the childish tactics... How completely unsurprising. Oh and while you're already in the spree of spreading lies and misinformation could you also tell me more about my “agenda"?

David Therwhanger

@Tanker00v2 Well I do commend you for admitting you misquote others to push your own agenda.

Tanker00v2

@David Therwhanger and the lies continue

David Therwhanger

@Tanker00v2 i went thru every one of my comments. I never said that statement with even one exclamation point. Much less 3. I made a simple statement. You are the one adding things to make it fear mongering. Don't misrepresent others and then chastise them for your lies.

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0B4U5KAT3D 01

2y↑19

I've been saying this since I was 14, 21 years ago, when I started growing mushrooms of the magical variety, lol. I'd throw the mycelium out in my moms garden, but I'd often look at the chunks of it and roll it between my fingers, and noticed that when it dried, it got super hard and degraded very slowly, it was then I realized how useful it could be....

thepointyend

2y↑74

Having lived in Vietnam for some years, I have seen the plastic horrors of the South China Sea first hand. This is an amazing first step!

Ethan The Gamer

2y↑5

Imagine being allergic to mushrooms and fungus and this was actually the future

Oof

Shako_Lamb

2y↑3

I love the idea of mycelium becoming a home insulating material. Especially because Rockwool is currently one of the main go-to products, but when a new Rockwool plant was built near me, some worrying information about the environmental impact of its manufacturing process came to light. Also, just a tangent, but Adidas is pronounced "aahdee daass" (from the founder's name Adi Dassler).

Ahlam Amr

2y↑10

That is amazing. I wanted to use mycelium in an environmental architecture competition in my school but I didn’t really understand it thank you for clarifying things in simple way.

acherem13

2y↑1

So is there any chance that these products could provoke an allergic reaction to someone who is highly allergic to mycelium? Or is that issue nullified by the way the mycelium is processed?

Sandra Lewis

2y↑29

This is fascinating and a bit unsettling. We joined the mushroom industry many decades ago and started a cottage industry producing and furnishing exotic fungi to the food market. However, I didn't realize that the mycelium were quietly computing and probably talking to each other in ways I cannot imagine (different video!).

This path of transforming their brains (mycelium) into building products and circuits needs careful consideration. Their fruiting bodies are purposefully there for the taking, like any fruit or berry, but what if they are sentient in some way? Fungi are the backbone of a healthy soil biome and are known to stretch out for miles. Messing with mycelium caused the Dust Bowl era.

All kidding aside, we'll still grow mushrooms for food but I'm going to be very nice to my mycelium. I think another layer of wood chips is in order for New Year's Day, for their growing pleasure.

John Cunningham

2y↑2

While they slowly draw their Plans against us.................................

xShadowDarkX

2y↑2

I really love the idea of a mycelium based leather. I would really like to see just how effective it is. Even animal based leather eventually breaks down (as most organic structures tend to) but what is the breakdown period in comparison? Can we really on this leather the same ways we have in high fashion? This is especially important for shoes. Unlike pant or shirt shoes are MEANT to take a beating. It would be unfortunate if a mycelium based leather broke down too fast but would it defeat the biodegradable novelty for the extra longevity?

TurquoiseInk

3y↑1.5K

I would happily live in a mycelium insulated home, wear mushroom leather and support businesses that used this packaging. Bring it on!

NetraAmorosi

@Mitch C - That would be the least of my worries if it got flooded so bad that it made it into the walls...

The Nerd Wonder

Soooo....you are saying that theres a chance that Mario's Mushroom kingdom could become real????

MetemΨchosis

@Viseral_Notion that would be awesome though, I'd gladly have badass fungal armor

OceanKittii

i dont like mushrooms 😬

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capta1nseal

2y↑9

as a vegetarian I can say that mycelium fibres growing in a way resembling animal muscle tissue is just really cool and not off-putting at all

Hunter C.

2y↑3

when i heard that i was like.... really dude? isnt it the point of fake meat to emulate the real thing?

Taran Tantiana

2y↑1

Thank you Matt! This video is amazing!!! It's unbelievable to know we have this wonderful alternative to plastics....waw! 🤠 If I have the choice between something ecologically friendly and something that's not...I don't hesitate!! I think it's easy for us to make a good choice...🐸👌

Kia e-Niro Diaries Encore

2y↑10

Great video Matt. Recommended reading is ‘Entangled’ by Merlin Sheldrake. Our understanding of the mycelium world is still at an early stage, the book is a real eye-opener.

GChan129

I just bought this book. Thanks die the recommendation

Divonis

Mushrooms are the future because they were also the past, we just lost them along the way. I'm glad discoveries like this are being made

Negligible Furni

3y↑1.4K

Looks like HermitCraft’s Mycelium Resistance had a plan all along.

Awntrey

I'm glad I kept scrolling. This is the comment I've been looking for

Jimmy g

@Kev well yea thay were killing the environment of the shoping districkfrom day one win thya replased the rightfull owner with grass

Bowser junior Studios

they actully did

RailGun

2y↑2

What do you mean? its all about the principle

Freddy November

3y↑1

3 words
Mycelium 3-D Printer!

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gaiavoice

Great piece, thank you, the most comprehensive assessment of mycelium's game-changing potential I've seen yet!

nichalos reid

2y↑1

This is amazing, give it 10 more years and we can start to see better changes to the environment. This form of innovation will save many and this world

ice cream bone

2y↑1

the main question i have with this is whether it still requires a lot of water to grow. iirc plastic takes something like 20 gallons of water per pound of plastic, so that's the benchmark to beat on that specific metric

Rudi Coehn

Love your channel, brother. Interesting technical topics, covered in a politics-free way. We need more of that in the world.

Epic Toast

3y↑545

I'd pay a little extra if a company used this instead of normal packaging.

Ash N

It might still be better though since it technically is helping save a lot of space from plastic waste.

Username 1123

@ChaosSwissroIl oh also rocks aren't created in factories that produces a huge amount of CO2.

Username 1123

@ChaosSwissroIl ok

ChaosSwissroIl

3y↑1

@Username 1123 I am so god damn sick of ignorant 'environmentalists' that do absolutely zero thinking and just repeat what they heard like lemmings; and they're invariably wrong because someone got the smart idea to lie in order to pedal (and profit from) a fake solution to a fake problem because it makes people feel good.
Plastic is effectively biologically inert. Plastic has the exact same impact on the environment as a rock does. And before you even reply, pulp packing uses the exact same inputs as the mushroom packing, except it's faster, cheaper, lighter, and recyclable.

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Mooh Bosch

2y↑1

Great video matt, thanks for sharing such clear and concise info about such a groundbreaking technology!!👍

Lamegame

Honestly, packaging like this would give me that final push I needed to switch to shopping mostly online. I get exactly what I want, AND mulch for my lawn 😁

Nathan Leroi

Thanks Matt for all this useful condensed information! This is extremely relevant

Jesse

Mycelium and fungi are our future! From medicine, mental health, the things mentioned in this video, this organism is ripe for entrepreneurship and will definitely help our species. Check out Paul Stamets if you're curious about other promising benefits of mycellium and fungi in general.

Aidan S

3y↑396

I’ll never get behind metal and paper alternatives to plastic items due to their high production energy costs. Sometimes as much as 500 times the pollution into the atmosphere. But this is an actual win win product. Hope it gains traction.

HappyAgony

@Flying Chimp up until innovation gets in in the way of profits for the investors. Transportation is considered an innovation cutting travel time, removing vehicles from the road thus creating less pollution, and creating a more robust network of commerce between cities yet here in America the consolidation of oil companies have put a stop to all that. Now we have rampant grid lock, road rage, loud cars, unnecessarily massive trucks, high traffic fatalities, pollution, and now a burning hole in peoples pockets due to high gas prices.

Armend Ibrahimi

Also, the talk about licenses, don't forget that they run out, and people are very good at finding work-arounds, especially bigger companies. If a concept is proven, and there is a big enough market for it people will either find a work-around to get their own product, or once the license expires they'll drive prices down to the ground. There's a reason why they exist, but it's often misused. The best case for it in a way is pharmaceutical companies, they take a lot of time to produce one product which either works or doesn't, it's very binary, and it's very expensive to research a new drug. If it's successful, that company gets to either sell the license for a one-time installment of cash, or make use of the license for however long it lasts by selling the drug at a higher price, then when the license runs out, the market can get their hands on it and they usually drive prices down to the ground. Is it a perfect system? Of course not. It exists because most companies can't afford to spend a lot on researching and developing a new thing and then giving it away to everyone. Is it what's best for everyone? Probably. Is it sustainable for the people doing the research and development? Not unless they are already billionaires

Armend Ibrahimi

@Niop Tres And the bigger thing is that there's nothing wrong with re-using plastic. You're better off using plastic than metal in a lot of situations, we just have a culture and a misconception that plastic is for one time use only, this stems due to it being so easy to produce so it feels disposable. You wouldn't throw away your metal bottle that you payed say 10 dollars for compared to the plastic one that you bought for 10 cents, despite them having the same potential to be reused

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Patent Experts

It all sounds fantastic and very promising. But, like most of these green products, can it be massively scaled up without creating another pollution situation.
ALSO: does it cost more than it's worth?

Sandy Morrison

I remember a mine I went into in northern Idaho with my Dad. There was white latex-like stretchy fungus growing on the timbers of the ceiling and walls. I think this is what was there. Weird stuff.

Shard FloofFox

It's things like this that give me hope for the future, something like this could replace plastic for good. No long damaging the environment has much.

Eliza ARC

2y↑1

As an Industrial microbiologist I love this video. More prople should know the many ways microorganisms can help us!!

Terx37

3y↑673

This technology is so simple ! Imagine how the world would have looked like if someone discovered this before plastics

Edit: I did not mean to say that this was superior to plastics in every way, just that if we knew of this sooner, we could have had a good alternative to plastics decades, maybe even centuries sooner, as the production of such a material would not require the advanced knowledge in chemistry as the production of plastic would. Im not saying its better than plastics, its not, as it is only aplicable in a few things, all I am saying is that if this was discovered, lets say by accident, in the 17th century, it could have started a completely new era.

RaanShi

@Alex If you produce it everyday, basically, you would have more than enough to do anything you want with it. I mean, look at plants and animals we eat. It takes years to grow them, but we have quite the constant output (as terrible as it can be sometimes). Only the first week would have shortages.

a b

@Glob Dabson no it definitionally is not, that's the point I'm trying to make!

Alex Ross

@Punking Glad we agree. Sorry if I offended you.

SlavicBGБГ

@Glob Dabson 🧂🤡

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D H

I see huge possibilities for this in non-cosmetic applications, especially in the packaging and insulation needs. However, it does lack mechanical and aesthetic properties of petroleum based polymers where flexual modulus, impact strength, dimensional stability, flame retardant and clarity are huge concerns. I have designed thousands of plastic parts throughout my career and while I don't see it replacing polycarbonate or ABS, I do see a definite need for something like this.

Leynia

2y↑1

I love your videos. I discovered it one or two days ago and I've been watching it every opportunity. A couple times I've had to stop watching because the high-pitched tone in the background was too irritating. There must be a reason the tone is used. If it is in Porten for some reason I wonder if the sound could be changed. Thanks for considering.

Sam Hanks

As always, don't underestimate the new factor. It takes time to realize the impact of a new systems effects. Yes, EVs seams like a no-brainer, however there will be a cost down the road. The lessons of our yesterday choices are being ignored on today's decisions.

Al Sorensen

2y↑6

Me: "Wow, is there anything mushrooms can't do?"
MAtt: "Oh and BTW, mushrooms can be turned into microchips"
EXCUSE ME!?!

T∆TchMe

2y↑1

@vincent pribish I don't feel surprised to be honest. This channel used to and still does overexaggerate a lot of information, because what is better as a way to spread false hope?

Plus, he never once brought up the fact that biodegradable = will degrade when in use, thus is unreliable. How often do wood rot compare to mineral based materials? Think the same for "mushroom plastic" vs normal plastic. This isn't to say I don't support this, it's just that he overexaggerates and never shows the other side of the argument. In other words his videos are biased to people who have not studied biology and chemistry.

vincent pribish

@Bernard Martis this sort of thing is why I don't subscribe to this channel. it's uncritical clickbait. It's sad because our host is a good presenter and there's lots of interest in the subject matter - but the content is terribly flawed

Bernard Martis

2y↑2

No they can not. He was outright lying and misrepresented the research.

The researchers are building computer models of networks that mimic mycelium. Not using mycelium to create computer chips.

Greg

3y↑489

As with most new solutions, the real question is "is it competitive at scale?"

Doesn't matter how good the product is, if potential customers can't access it due to supply shortfalls.

Caleb Mauer

@Mr. Pablosek Graphene was invented in 2004, so not even 20 years.

Serp D.

@Red Panda that is just bullshit to throw the consumer on it. Some products are unknow to us , how they get shiped ect. Most of the stuff I got I got for the first time. How should I know what hey use to ship it?

lawrence willard

@Ismail ‘Nye’ Yusof this is 'how long is a piece of string' scenario. The 'enviromental' costs are very biased. With the 'money' behind it, the costs to implement grows exponentially. The pressure behind it , greater. Down goes the nations.

RBR

With the infrastructure already in place for plastic production since the early 20th century, plastic production has already breakeven in terms decades ago. Since this is a new technology, actual price comparison that truly reflects the cost of production will surely show that plastic will be way lower. The question then becomes how fast can the production infrastructure catch up? Can we easily convert plastic production facility? If this new technology requires a more specialized facility (comparatively) that will extend the time before the prices equalize. Additionally, if the patent holders have tight grip on the technology (already efficient process of production), that will also slowdown adoption and further improvements that will hopefully make it easier for small to larger companies to shift their technology. All in all, these are often what keeps new products from replacing what we deem bad for our future. Same can be said with petroleum which also feeds a lot of industries but replacements are at a disadvantage because of the early headstart (a path dependence favoring the first mover).

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Nathan Snow

2y↑1

Very intriguing 🤔
I'm curious though, how does it perform regarding mushroom allergies?

Francisco J.G.

2y↑1

I think that was part of the intent for the heating to prevent spore dispersion as well.

Murray Mallinson

It sounds like an excellent replacement of plastic. Are there any new developments in using all the plastic that's not recyclable in building materials for instance?

Danielle Murphy

You should look into Maerogel. It's amazing and was invented by a female scientist from Malaysia - hence the 'M'. It's made out of rice husks which are useless for eating or possibly even composting (I can't remember) because of how tough rice husks are.

David Robinson

Absolutely fantastic. Only question I have has to do with wast and recycling. Another point is fire resistance....at what temperature does the product burn and can it be extinguished. When will structural strength be improved. Thanks your presentation is good and an eye opener

vb0t

3y↑1.9K

Lets hope finding a mushroom island isn't hard

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Nexus Borjal

Ahhh fellow members of the Mycelium Resistance.

StephenIsSuperior

Finally, a minecraft joke...

Freddy November

3 words
Mycelium 3-D Printer!

Omar

@Splinty lmfao

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Rannon

The thing that makes me hesitate when it comes to things like this or using plastic eating stuff is the longevity. In this case it's about how long, E.G. clothes would keep. If they'd made to last for E.G: a decade, well then there's nothing left for historians, second-hand, nostalgia items or even inherited stuff (as an example, I've inherited my grandpa's old suede/fur coat, which probably is older than I am). To be honest, it sounds like fast fashion might get even faster (planned obsolescence) unless you pay for the extra durable version (the poor man buys twice, as the saying goes).
When it comes to plastic eating stuff, how do we keep them from eating the plastic we want to use? It's not like we're going to be able to stop them from spreading.

I really like the thought of it for packaging and other stuff that should disappear ASAP! And I'm overall very positive to the progress of plastic replacements.

Ray

your video still raises a lot of questions
- how is it proven that mycelium is safer than plastic? just because it's biodegradable doesnt mean it's harmless to the body
- how does its biodegradability affect its lifespan? for packing styrofoam this shouldnt matter, but for building materials and insulation this is super important
- fungus is edible, would it attract pests? super important for building materials and especially insulation. there's plenty of species that feed off of varieties fungi, bugs especially come to mind. is there anything to prevent this from happening to your insulation? what kind of pests does it attract? etc etc

its a fantastic technology but this video sounded like it was singing it's praises with very little consideration of what drawbacks it might have.

RMFX

About 40 years ago I watched educational films in grade school about how pollution from oil and coal would cause global climate change, and how solar energy and electric cars were the future. That drum beat has repeated since. Today we have droughts and fires on a scale I've never seen, and we're barely starting to adopt solar on any kind of scale, same with EVs. I've seen these cycles too many times to have faith that industry will ever drastically change their ways if we don't strictly regulate.

Isak s

I think it has a great potential to be a great food source since the meat industry is among the worst offenders when it comes to polluting the environment. I also think packaging will be a huge part of mycelium production because of its cost to manufacture and how quickly it is composted.

the clothing part is less of a given when it comes to mycelium. it is all about how it compares to cotton in both longevity and price. if it is cheaper to produce than cotton whilst offering the same or better properties in how soft it is, how well it holds up over time and through wash cycles and how breathable it is. I can see a use for it in stuff like winter equipment like jackets and such for skiing, snowboarding and other winter sports and there might be a use for it in gloves depending on yet again, price and reciliance.

as for building matereals, I would say that it really depends on how well it holds up over time, but I can really see it being used inside the walls as an insulator instead of glass or rock wool. but this also depends on the performance. if it is worse than glass wool for a higher price will nobody go for it. if it is the same or better for the same price or lower do I have a feeling that a lot of people might go for it instead of glass wool.

CG Breeki

3y↑734

I would love to one day look at "trash" on the beach, see a mycelium package on the water and know that it won't take long before it's not there anymore.

Mal Contender

2y↑1

@Mathew Culver Stomach acid is a helluva barrier.

unknow unknown

2y↑1

How do you make mycelium last longer without it decomposes

Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky II

2y↑1

@The1stHomosapien Absofuckinlutely, worth it for health alone.

CG Breeki

3y↑1

@Brian Fox Yeah man. I commented with this in mind. Maybe, just maybe, somewhere someday for some time there won't be garbage...

Brian Fox

3y↑1

This hopeful sounding comment was actually really sad. It implies the idea of seeing biodegradable garbage instead of permanent garbage on the beach is the most we can even hope for, as no garbage on the beach isn't fathomable anymore. I don't think it's wrong.

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Allisa Bennett

Thank you for this interesting video. I would definitely live in a mushroom insulated home. Especially if it was shaped like the fruiting body of a mushroom! I love rounded roofs. Perhaps this mycelium revolution will usher in a new aesthetic in built environments...no more right angles! I also look forward to wearing fungi on my feet! You've perhaps missed the many medical applications of mycelium...from band-aids to ingestible remedies. And of course we've only just begun to explore the culinary & nutritional uses. Yuuooommmm!

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Gustav Jensen

2y↑1

When I see videos like that this, I always wonder, why is this not already a wide spread thing?

Sythe Bot

If major companies like apple, Microsoft, and Amazon adopt this, this could be huge for the recovery of climate change and plastic pollution

the upscriber

I love it but to scale volume is going to be an incredible challenge. It takes a week to mold this stuff where plastic takes seconds.

Alex Clarke

3y↑1.2K

20 years from now, Pixar releases a movie about mushrooms having feelings

abc def

It's a wrap up!

D. S.

@TTTY 224 what do you win? you won what? You won something imaginary just like this place it is all imaginary.
Yay congratulations. You win the magic argument that doesn't matter, over using made up structures people agree are supposed to be organized in a certain way to be "right". Congratulations thanks for playing? i guess.

TTTY 224

@D. S. You are saying that none of this matters, you initiated this. If none of this matters, leave, go take a walk, touch some grass. Also, your grammar is breaking down and thusly I win bye bye.

D. S.

@TTTY 224 nope. very sane doesn't make a bit of a difference though. I don't care what people think if I'm "insane" doesn't matter.

arguing about evolution doesn't matter, speaking the truth doesn't matter.
Look at the world we live in , if this shit mattered we wouldn't live in a shti world. It would be heaven on earth.

TTTY 224

@D. S. ay mate you going insane?

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Jimmy Buba

2y↑1

The last part of tecnology working with mycelium reminded me of Half Life 2 Breen's description of the combine overworld with its "sentient fungi networks" in space

Lieta Taysom

This sounds very promising. the house insulation could be a problem though since it is biodegradable. you want your insulation to last and not rot. it might not work for humid climates. but could have a long life span for very dry climates or with proper treatments. but to replace most uses of Styrofoam yes please!

Walt Taylor

In the last section of the video you mentioned that several states have or may ban styrofoam and show a food container as an example of styrofoam. In doing a little research, the mushroom based packing is not a viable solution for food containers as it cannot get wet nor is it waterproof. You may want to make an edit to reflect this limitation.

Tyler Horn

You make me want to invest in that mushroom packaging company. If they can get the cost to be even (due to government taxation / grants) they are a clear winner.

Parabólica Zero

3y↑835

Sounds absolutely promising. The beginning of a new era where the technology is biological.

DeismAccountant

@Atspulgss organicism brought to it’s logical conclusion!!

DeismAccountant

@Atspulgss pretty much.

Atspulgss

2y↑1

Think about it, living things are already organic machines... all we are doing is returning to the our roots :D

D73W

There are so many plastic replacement bio technologies pretty far in development. It's so cool and very promising!

DeismAccountant

Solar/Lunarpunk ftw.

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Eduard Dvorecký

Imo myceleum in buildings is interesting idea. I'll be happy to exchange polystyren for it in new buildings or non bearing walls. Using it as load bearing material seems kinda sketchy to me. Load bearing materials should be able to last at least 10 years in bad conditions and show the decomposition. It would be nice to find out how water/ moisture resistable it is to find out if it can be used as underground termal insulation. Depending on how fire resistable it is, it could partialy replace fiber glass/ rock wool insulation.
Also if you can package food in it instead of styrofoam, is it edible? I'm just curious about this one.

Point Nemo

Hell yeah! This looks to be an amazing advancement. Fungus definitely appears to have an enormous amount of unlocked potential.

Bram Lastname

The isolation and Styrofoam like qualities make it an interesting material to theorise about.

TygerInTheNight

2y↑1

I watched a show on Curiosity Stream that talked about this mycelium technology and it was really interesting, but I don't remember it presenting it as an alternative to plastic packaging so this is really cool. It spoke mostly about its uses as a new building material and I think it mentioned the possibility of treatments that would make a brick of fungus comparable to a brick of concrete in terms of weight baring. I really need to watch that show again.

Edit: For anyone curious, I just looked up what show that was. Its called Evolve and the episode that discusses mycelium technology was one of the middle episode. I wanna say ep 3 but it could've been 4.

Penny Lane

3y↑1.8K

So the forms for the mycelium to grow in, are they called mold molds? ..... or mould moulds in the UK?

Sama Hardy

MushMold!

Tadfafty

3y↑1

In the US where the present tense is 'mold' but the past tense is 'moulded'

Penny Lane

@Tim Watson WTF?

Tim Watson

..and what are the mold molds made of? Plastic?

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Some Guy

it's pretty interesting that the tech is just getting started, but already close to competitive cost wise. That's a good sign (even if you don't care about environmental stuff, you likely like cheaper stuff).

TorQueMoD

Wow, this is really amazingly cool. I'm looking forward to seeing how far reaching this technology is in another 50 years.

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GCS 88

There have been alot of different organic alternatives for a long time, from hemp to cassava, the real problem are the companies who are going to lose alot and dont want that to happen.

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Sounds absolutely promising. The beginning of a new era where the technology is biological.

Patrick Nelson

3y↑555

Speaking of foam, as a consumer, I absolutely loathe styrofoam with a passion (and that’s not even accounting for the environmental impacts). It makes such a massive mess and is impossible to break down. It can be super frustrating.

tafan321

Worked at Fluke in just their shipping department for one of their buildings. They fill up about 2-3 containers of all types of foam a week to get sent to the landfill.

Fable Vulpes

2y↑3

I just hate the high pitched squealing sounds it makes!

Jermain 20000

2y↑2

its fun to burn though

Mr Nobody

@gliderpie lets go!

Mr Nobody

2y↑3

Styrofoam is only good for one thing. Napalm

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Steve Libby

I like the insulation aspect. How long would it last? Could there be impurities in the growing medium that would be hazardous in a fire? Mulch from a Superfund site, for example.

Milo Bem

If the material is biodegradable in couple of weeks, the question is, how long it can perform it's functions before it starts degrading. Can it stay on a supermarket shelf, or container ship for weeks, without scaring the customers away? Building houses with mycelium is premature before we get used to mycelium packaging and observe the long term effects.

Ashesh Dutta

2y↑1

I would love to live in a mycelium insulated house for sure.. anything for mother nature. Great information, thanks for sharing.

inky

This is really something amazing. A really great technology that I really like the idea of!

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gabriel quintero hoyos

3y↑753

The fact that this technology was developed in 2006 and I'm just recently hearing about it it's kind of concerning.

T∆TchMe

2y↑1

It's not, because 20 years is not a really long time for research on a nee product and it's also not reliable enough as a replacement.

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Clown World

Things don’t happen overnight 🤦‍♂️

Bell Drop

Because new means replacing the old. And the old don't like that.

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blubell

It's patented so it's definitely going to be a bit more expensive. I can see some greedy people leveraging it, making it harder to enter mainstream and replace plastics, as fast as it should..

StoneTitan

Hopefully it'll work. the worst Plastics are the one use items imo. We can't get those replaced fast enough.
The build to last options though should be another story

BluesM18A1

The concept of drywall that is several times more soundproof than normal AND is biodegradable is too good to me. It would mean so much to me for audio recording... and making a racket without my neighbors noticing lol

Bill Brown

Wonder if 3D houses can be printed using a super-strong, long-lasting mycelium based product?

Wizdude

3y↑311

Use of this for packaging would be such a huge win for everyone. Most items we receive come with so much unrecyclable material and in the “new world” we live in now, we will continue to order and have goods shipped to us in larger quantities and more frequently.

Zimon

@Bob Weiram with waste you get payment as well.
The main idea is to give the waste and money to recycle it with lower costs as the labour is cheaper in those countries.
If they decide to take the money and dump the garbage in the ocean then... well, we are exactly here.

Bob Weiram

3y↑2

@Zimon If the developing countries don't have the capital to recycle, then why do wealthy countries send their waste to developing countries to have it recycled? Blaming the problem on poorer countries is a pathetic cop out characteristic of right wing lunatics who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions.

Zimon

@Wizdude plastic is cheap and durable, making it even cheaper.
It will not be replaced because its forced on us with price difference.
There are no products that are eco and cheap.
Also: f*** that paper straws, those are the worst.

Wizdude

@Bob Weiram I didn’t say it would be easy, but remember when we used to have plastic bags at the supermarket and plastic packing beads in shipping goods? Such things are the past. We can only move forward regardless of how long it takes.

Wizdude

3y↑2

@Zimon but a large amount of this is export goods. If we stop purchasing goods in plastic, the market will slowly change as factories won’t want to have two different packing facilities. It will take time but it’s a move in the right direction.

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Ck digital The Q of 6th

3:27 You may have forgot to mentioning, it that material felt lighter or heavier then plastic.
Looks like the determination of biodegradable, durable, strenght etc. Is the next to deside.

toggler

Brilliant program on this subject… more on this please.
Interesting comments concerning allergies, mould and termites?
But anything to end this malevolent plastics industry.
Thank you for this posting!

NimsChannel

Before you go try fungus meat be aware I tried it twice. The second time my body decided it was a dangerous substance and I had uncontrollable puking and dry heaving for about a half hour. Literally sitting on the floor curled up in a ball waiting because I'd have to run back every minute.

To be fair there is a warning on the food itself.

Timothy Morigeau

2y↑3

Amazing! Nature seems to always give us what we need.

P B

3y↑466

When you mentioned housing, my first thought was my house would be growing mushrooms due to the wet environment I live in. I'm both glad to know that the material is already dead, and disappointed I wouldn't get a free crop of mushrooms :)

AH White

2y↑1

@Paul Walsh not just microorganisms. Seems like it would be a tempting food source for insects and rodents and such. They'd have to find a way around that.

Ivan Larin

Morrowind?)

WorldWalker128

Next step is bio-engineering Smurfs to live in those shroom-homes.

Mauro Tamm

Tho it could be a great substance for wast range of other moulds and fungi to grow in.

Paul Walsh

2y↑1

That sounds good... that it's heated to make the mycelium dead or inert, but how does it fare against mould and other microorganisms during the lifetime of the product ? Does a biologically derived product serve as a nutritious substrate for potentially hazardous microorganisms ?
Still... WOW... the potential to permanently replace the vast amount of plastics going into landfills and the ocean...

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Sunny Baby

yes i would live in a mushroom house... but also maybe we could keep some of those plastic bottles from going into the ocean and fill them with sand or something, and stack them to build houses too. we would need to figure out how to offset the weathering of that plastic and catch its micro particles

Mokona

This is one of the reasons why if I don't get into nueroscience I'm going to study Mycology. It's ao fascinating what you can achieve with mushrooms!

Mark Crutchfield

I wonder if there are mycelium + graphene possibilities for architectural uses?

Jay

I'm a little confused about how it's made. Does the agriculture waste get decomposed or is it still inside of the final product? Does that make the material denser?

Melvorgazh

Hi!
Could it be used like poliuratane to make nylon Ripstop airproof?
Or Nomex airproof?
Can it withstand heat of around 130 deg Celcius?
Seems very interesting

Pamela Joy Pol

A really encouraging group of sustainability solutions. Also, the delivery is so mild, knowledgeable and easy to understand.
My thanks.

Ana Cloughly

It sounds great. I’m wondering about people who have mushroom allergies. With the spread of these products from packaging to building materials and even food containers, we need to know if there are any negative effects on the environment and human beings. Would you be up for making a video on how we are checking these new products before they cause irreparable damage? Plastic has it benefits but we have learned the hard way by not looking into potential damage. Thanks, I’ve enjoyed your video.

sloth_

When has an eco friendly solution EVER been broadly appealing.

clabatross

3y↑21

The problem with fungus is that there are so many known mycotoxins and likely even more unknown mycotoxins. For instance, the some Fusarium species are used in fake meat products, but I believe most species in the same genus are known to have harmful mycotoxins. Aflatoxins (produced by Aspergillosis species) are known to be toxic to liver cells and are heavily correlated with cancer and liver cirrhosis. The point is, different species and genus of fungi produce all kinds of different chemicals that we have no idea how they effect the body.

I'm not saying fungi based plastics wouldn't be better than petroleum based plastics which probably have an effect on the endocrine system. The industrial uses for fungi seem pretty cool, but I would use caution when using fungi for packaging food or water.

I am not an expert, but I took a few mycology classes in college. There is so much we don't know and so many undiscovered species. I think caution is warranted for packaging food. If someone knows more please comment.

Iris

2y↑5

thanks for this. It's so easy to watch a cool video and be like "YES ALL THE PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED!!!" but it's good to get a non-pessimistic reality check to remember that it's more complicated. That said, In the age of amazon, though, just the application as a shipping material is exciting. I helped a friend unpack a wayfair couch last year and dear god...i felt like the hole in the ozone was opening directly over their house.

HappyBeeHoney

Could the spore mixture be applied inside open walls during construction to grow exterior wall insulation that perfectly fits framing?

broadcastmyballs

This video didn't address my main question about this material, which is:
Does it decompose when wet? Its biodegradability must mean that it does, and this could make it a dangerous material in construction if contacted by water. How absorbent is it? Absorbency is a negative for food storage, even short-term food service storage.
Sure would not be good if it rains on your expensive boutique mushroom shoes and they end up rotting with... fungus, growing on them.

Francis Calver

Most of these programs, unfortunately, are way, I think, too intellectual for me but would it possible to grow mycelium fungus in the walls of the older double brick cavity wall homes without destroying them but increasing their insulation capacity??

Sure Thing

I'm all for continuing the work to completely replace plastics. But it seems like mycelium fungus breaks apart a lot more easily than anyone is willing to show for some reason. When people show off bricks or other examples, it's pretty clear that you could rub the stuff up against wood or itself or anything and it would begin to crumble off at least somewhat; you can see loose bits, and that same thing happens even with 3D printed polymers. Is the company that's pushing this stuff avoiding that issue on purpose?

jlruss9777

3y↑251

Anyone thats ever had to install or touch fiberglass insulation would probably say YES to this option.

AxeOne

@Meboy1000 It would be a cool alternative instead of tents. A lot better insolated but since it would last only 45 days it wouldn't be a long time investement. But for a couple of bucks to get a giant cosy tent is pretty reasonable. It would also be very helpful for homeless people. They could buy cheap "tents" out of this stuff that is a lot cheapper than normal tents. They would have to replace it pretty often tho better than living on the streets.

AxeOne

3y↑1

no thanks. i hate fiberglass but i don't want to freeze after 45 days because my insulation dissapeared and now the walls are full of rat poop.

Cofal Over 9k

3y↑1

@Undercover Hat if you want to scratch your skin off yes, wash in cold water.
I have isolated several houses with glasfiber insulation...
And it works every time. Washing in cold just makes it last forever.

Meboy1000

people talking about how it wouldnt last, makes me wonder if it would be possibly to design a house that uses living mycelium as insulation, get a substrate in the walls, something something antifungal paint something something mushroom roof something something cheap house

Undercover Hat

3y↑1

@Cofal Over 9k No no NO!! Wash in COLD water. Hot water will open your pores, allowing the fibres to penetrate deeper into your skin. Cold water wash only.

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