Numerous artists use the mononym Nelson as their stage name or on some rele… Read Full Bio ↴Numerous artists use the mononym Nelson as their stage name or on some releases:
1. A melodic glam metal / AOR band from the United States
2. The Belgian actor and singer Nelson Moraïs http://www.last.fm/music/Nelson+Morais
3. The soca musician aka. Lord Nelson http://www.last.fm/music/Lord+Nelson
4. An indie rock band from France
5. An R&B singer from the United States
6. Robert Frederick Nelson the trance producer from Northern Ireland

For the British singer/songwriter duo, see The Nelson Brothers.

1) Nelson is a melodic glam metal / AOR band founded by Matthew and Gunnar Nelson (the twin sons of Ricky Nelson.) They had a No. 1 hit in the United States with "(Can't Live Without Your) Love and Affection" during the week of September 29, 1990. They are listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the only family to reach number one record status in three successive generations (beginning with grandparents Ozzie and Harriet Nelson).

The band split with Geffen Records record label after 1995, but they have continued to produce and release albums independently under their label, Stone Canyon Records. However, they have yet to revisit the level of success they experienced during their 1990 debut. http://thenelsonbrothers.com

2) Nelson Moraïs http://www.last.fm/music/+noredirect/Nelson+Morais

3) Nelson (formerly known as Lord Nelson) has been a fixture on the Carribean music scene for decades. He was one of the key calypso artists, later mutating into soca, the more upbeat version of calypso.

4) The French “Nelson.” , based in Paris, released their EP “Bangkok Riot” and are working on their full length debut album. The band tours extensively across Europe.

5) Nelson (born in 1986) is an American R&B singer. He is currently signed to Bad Boy Records as of 2006. And is cited as "The Prince of Badboy".
His talent and performance are in the company of Alicia Keys and John Legend. His instruments of choice are lyric, melody, and acoustic guitar. This twenty-year old native of the Bronx, New York and one of P. Diddy’s newest signings continues the legacy of great performing artists. “He’s prolific…way beyond his years,” Mark Pitts, President of Urban Music, Zomba Music Group..

6) Northern Irish trance music producer Robert Frederick Nelson, better known as Agnelli & Nelson (with Christoper James Agnew/Agnelli), who are notable for helping to define the genre of trance music since 1997. Their hits 'El Niño' and 'Everyday' have become trance classics, and they've done countless remixes, from Armin van Buuren to U2.

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Nelson Lyrics

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L is for the way you look at me.
O is for the only one I see.
V is very, very extraordinary.
E is even more than anyone that you adore can.

Love is all that I can give to you,
Love is more than just a game for two.
Two in love can make it.

Take my heart and please don't break it,
Love was made for me and you.

L is for the way you look at me.
O is for the only one I see.
V is very, very extraordinary.
E is even more than anyone that you adore can.

Love is all that I can give to you,
Love is more than just a game for two.
Two in love can make it.
Take my heart and please don't break it,
Love was made for me and you.

(That's almost true)
For me and you.

Overall Meaning

The lyrics to Nelson's song "L-O-V-E" are a classic example of a romantic love song. The song is essentially a love letter to someone special, with each letter of the word "LOVE" representing a different aspect of the singer's feelings. The song begins with the singer describing how the person's gaze makes them feel, with the letter "L" standing for the way they look at the singer. The letter "O" represents the person who the singer is in love with; they are the only one the singer sees. The singer describes their feelings about the person in a creative, poetic way, saying that the person is "very, very extraordinary" - this is represented by the letter "V". Finally, the letter "E" represents the singer's extreme feelings of adoration; they feel more for this person than anyone else could.

The chorus of the song emphasizes the idea that "love is all that I can give to you". Love is presented as a powerful force that can make or break a relationship. The singer acknowledges that love can be a complex game, but that if two people are truly in love, they can make it work. The singer asks the person they love to take their heart, but to please not break it - this represents the vulnerability that can come with being in love.

Overall, "L-O-V-E" is a beautifully written and romantic song that captures the essence of being in love. The lyrics are simple, yet elegant, and they convey the depth of the singer's feelings for the person they love.

Line by Line Meaning

L is for the way you look at me.
Your gaze towards me is one of pure, unbridled love.

O is for the only one I see.
You are the only person I see and think of, you are all I need.

V is very, very extraordinary.
The way we feel towards each other is beyond normal, almost magical.

E is even more than anyone that you adore can.
The strong emotions I have for you surpass any feelings that you hold for someone else.

Love is all that I can give to you,
I have nothing but pure love to offer you, it is all that I am capable of giving you.

Love is more than just a game for two.
Our love is not just a mere game, it is a deep and meaningful connection between us that deserves respect and nurturing.

Two in love can make it.
We have each other to rely on and as long as we have our love for each other, we can face anything together and overcome all challenges.

Take my heart and please don't break it,
I am vulnerable and trust you, please take good care of my heart and do not hurt it.

Love was made for me and you.
Our love was meant to be, it is perfect for us and nobody else.

For me and you.
Our love is exclusive to only us, it is special and unique to our relationship.

Lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group, Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
Written by: RALPH BLANE, HUGH MARTIN

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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

Matt

2y↑1

@AnarexicSumo thank you for your explanation! even from latin to italian something similar happened

HOMO => UOMO
Human being => Man

DOMINA => DONNA
Lady => Woman

VIR => disappeared as a substantive
Man

UXOR => disappeared as a substantive
Woman

Roger Marsh

The term 'cutter' in the of the 18th - early 19th century period meant:

1.- A single-masted vessel with a large gaff mainsail and multiple (at least two) headsails (jib and staysail), usually also carrying a square topsail and topgallant, able also to hoist a fair-weather square course (a 'running course', as John Harland and I agreed to name it, or, as the French call it, perhaps more romantically, 'la voile de fortune’). They always had bowsprits, though I do not believe that would form part of the definition;

2.- A type of pulling boat carried on a larger vessel, a ship’s boat (that usually could also hoist a couple of sails);

3.- A vessel on the particular service of carrying despatches, in which case no rig is implied or designated; such types as cutters, schooners, brigs, ship-sloops etc. could all be used as ‘advice cutters’ or ‘despatch cutters’.

In modern yachting terms:

4.- A single-masted fore-and-aft-rigged vessel with mainsail (either gaff or Bermudan) and multiple (at least two, can be more) headsails, with or without bowsprit.

This list is not exhaustive and does not cover cutters of the age of steam!

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Military History Visualized

7y↑255

YouTube's ad policies are getting out of hand, thus sadly, I have to adapt my financial strategy if I want to continue this channel.

Please, support properly sourced Military History on Patreon! Every $ helps: http://patreon.com/mhv/

AllenSymonds

Chaplain(chap-lan, not shap-plain)

Samuel Elder

@vtrmcs yep, that trips up most people

vtrmcs

2y↑2

@John Gilmer Boatswain - "Bo-sun"

John Gilmer

I am not bothered by mispronunciations due to accent, I admire people who learn multiple languages. What was jarring to me was the way that 'boatswain' and 'forecastle' were pronounced. Maybe this will help: BO-sin and FOKE-sull.

Edward Teach

Wow your English has improved by leaps and bounds in the last 3 years!

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Mike Rangel

7y↑259

Regarding 'Boys' - I was told it was common to pay a Captain of the ship to put your young 6 year old son's name on the sailor list of his ship. Even though the child never step foot on the ship. This way when the child reached 18 years old he was listed as having 12 years sea experience and could get a good job at the Admiralty.

Samuel Elder

@Konstantinos Nikolakakis i like the point you make but im going to have to moan at you about the way you wrote 18th century

Konstantinos Nikolakakis

Reminds me of how in the XVIIIth Century army officers would have their sons enlisted as drummer boys within their future regiments at the age of 8 to 10, so at sixteen, when they got an ensign’s commission, they already had around six years seniority in the regiment.

KeeperOfTheFate

2y↑2

Aristocracy used many ways to get comission for their children. Most militaries of the time allowed buying the comission. It was intended as a way to prove that oficer is invested his own wealth into military and is loyal. British military was unusual in the fact, that navy and artilery corps didn't allow buying of comission (while infantry and cavalery did). Until french revolution, most european armies allowed the purse to decide who commands. That was one of strengths of french revolutionery/imperial army. COs were mostly rankers or officers after academy. This time period is interesting as it shows how armies transitioned from noble led commands to professional led. Entire premise of first Sharpe book (Sharpe Eagle) is about him (simple 2nd rate ranker lieutenant) going heads to heads with noble sir Simmerson (colonel who raised his own regiment of thousand troops from his own purse) with penisular campaign as background.

Waylon K

Ho-ho! Aristocracy at it's finest

Samuel Elder

2y↑1

@Master Ace I don’t know about that! There is a milk-man job in my area that says “no experience necessary” 😉

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David Freiboth

3y↑186

I had never seen a comprehensive explanation about the crewing/watch system on sailing warships this concise and informative. I hold an inactive Limited Able Seaman's endorsement from the US Coast Guard. I've been studying naval history most of my life (in addition I am major fan of C.S Forester's Hornblower books reading all at least once). I've visited the USS Constitution and like to think I have a fairly decent understand of warships from the age of sail ... until I watched this excellent piece. Very well done!

KavikaFL

@Martin Chamberlain Dewey Lambdin's. Alan Lawrie 25 books more boudy 😊

Martin Chamberlain

David, greetings from the UK. If you love Hornblower, you absolutely must read Patrick O’Briens Master and Commander series They are a stunning read, full of wooden warship lore, but with an underlying seam of subtle humour. I also really enjoyed this video, thanks!

Pigeon0fDoom

2y↑4

Can you do the same for a modern ship?

Military History Visualized

3y↑15

thank you!

Tom Servo

7y↑980

To all the people correcting his pronunciation please learn to make highly detailed, excellent videos in another language and let MHV nitpick how you pronounce sometimes tricky words.

Boris Anisimov

Joke's on them - I come for the highly detailed historical content, without the ever-present storytelling and added drama of the average video and article.

You go MHV !

Clooz

@Military History Visualized hey man just wanted to let you know, thanks for the killer content!

possumGFX

@keir farnum Says the guy responding to a four year old thread. Geez exactly.

keir farnum

@possumGFX
Geez! That’s a lot of energy to expend over something so unimportant.

keir farnum

@Otto Pike
I speak English, Dude, and some Spanish. “Dude” is especially difficult to learn. 😁

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BoarhideGaming

7y↑411

Now imagine the crew on a first rate ship-of-the-line, a Man'o'war.

Santisima Trinidad

@Richardsen to be fair, that wasn't helped by the Spanish saliors crewing me. They weren't really very good at the whole sailing business, unfortunately.

Todd Marryatt

Right! Being on a Ship of the Line. Even more brutal. Good to be a well connected Lord during war time.

Matt

2y↑1

AnarexicSumo

@Matt In English using "Man" to refer to males exclusively is a relatively recent development. In Old English and Middle English 'man' referred to any person and 'wyf' or 'wyfman' referred specifically to a woman. To make it even more confusing, British ships were/are named after royalty or martial terms and even ships with male names are called "she"

generic pizza place

More like fan o war

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Steven Hardy

7y↑19

The disciplinary role of the Boatswain's Mates were actually more of a side duty. Their main job was to be experts of deck seamanship. They were the ones in charge of all hauling and hoisting equipment, anchors and ground tackle, boats, and paint.

Konstantinos Nikolakakis

Aye, officially, law enforcement omaboard ship was carried out by the Master-at-Arms, who on larger ships had one or more “Ship’s Corporals” assisting him.

James Verhoff

7y↑60

Thank you for this breakdown. I've read a lot of naval fiction, and this is the clearest explanation I've encountered.

I think one thing that needs mentioned is that there was a difference between nominal and actual strength. Many ships had difficulty obtaining enough men. Contrary to popular opinion a lot of navy men were volunteers (it was easier than being in the merchant marine, because naval ships were manned per the guns while merchant ships were manned per the sails), and some captains could coax more men by being lucky and obtaining numerous prizes, but still, a lot of ships sailed with suboptimal crews.

In "Two Years Before The Mast" Dana relates that eight hands were sufficient to sail the ship he started out in (I think; could be 8 per watch--it's been a few years since I read it, and my dog ate the book so I can't re-read it just now). And a merchant ship wasn't substantially smaller than many frigates.

As for those correcting your pronunciation, ignore them. It's fine--you have an accent, but we all do, and anyone who can't understand you simply isn't trying.

qwonatz

@Arek Król yes, also when you have heavy objects to hoist, sails to unfurl, rigging to manage, cannons to man etc. you can do these things with a few sailors one after the other but the more hands you have the quicker the work.

Arek Król

makes sense that you need less men than required to operate smoothly, factory near me could operate with 3 workers on each shift, yet thetre were over 20 (at least until owners changed this year) on each
but overstaffing a ship makes a lot of sense too, maybe you only need a dozen of men to keep ship working at peak condition 24/7 but people can die form many diseases, or accident might happen and seamen might not be able to work and of course people can die in battles too

>...anyone who can't understand you simply isn't trying.

exacly, this youtuber not only has not bad voice, but also provides subtitles

Nick Thornton

Ha! the dog watch

Ted Warden

2y↑1

@James Verhoff. Something like half of the men who fought at Trafalgar on the British side were impressed.
Most of them not landsmen/lubbers.
Plus the British crown has never been quick to put its hand in its pocket. Those men were only discharged when they left ship.
I hasten to add that this is a conversation not an argument. But I’m afraid your giving the British navy a better reputation than it deserves.
Apart from winning almost all its engagements.

James Verhoff

2y↑3

@Ted Warden I agree that impressment occurred, I'm just saying that it wasn't what it's made out to be today. Your examples bear this out. Billy Budd was one guy. The American issue was that the British didn't respect American citizens, and violated American sovereignty to catch deserters, among other things (no cause for war is simple). Spithead and Noir included some discussion of impressment, but it wasn't a major issue--in Noir the articles they presented to the Admiralty discussed payment of those impressed. "The Dear Surprise" has published the articles from both events, and the articles issued don't seem to paint the mutinies as "very much tied up with impressment"; they were about pay, discipline, and leave more than impressment.

I'm not saying the press gangs didn't exist, or that they weren't problematic. The press gangs, much like the ships themselves, depended a great deal on the individuals involved. I'm just saying that this method wasn't the main one used to man the fleets.
Your point about merchant marine sailors getting greater rewards is a valid one, but from a very American perspective. The British at the time were very class-conscious. A rich man without a title and honors was considered less than a poor man with a title and honors. It's a very different mindset (see "Two Years Before The Mast" for other differences in mindsets between the two countries, and a few others). Further, your comment is geographically limited. Obviously the Company had other perks--including their own military. But a trader dealing with tar, or pine, or furs, or food, or...well, anything except spices and gems wasn't likely to provide the individuals with much opportunity for lining their own pockets. And merchants sometimes wouldn't sail. A sailor could be in both the Navy and--once the commission was over--sail with a merchant. Remember, once the commission was over the sailors were paid off, and while examples of sailors being snapped up again abound (admirals, the press, and other factors being what they were), a lot of sailors had down time between commissions. It wasn't either/or the way it is in today's navies, is what I'm trying to get at--a sailor could do both.

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Jerry VanNuys

7y↑19

Great presentation. The one thing that would really tie it all together would be to see is a physical layout of the ship and where all of these people would be at any given time.

It doesn't look like a ship that size could hold that many people.

Duane Bridges

7y↑90

MHV: even though I noticed the mispronunciations - I APPLAUD you for tackling these videos in English.
Trust me, I have worked in Fast Food long enough to know tons of Americans that would fail to pronounce several of these words.

Grim_Grenadier

7y↑4

Very good vid. I'm just reading through the Aubrey-Maturin books right now and it helps to have guides like this to show the crew distribution

Cassadin Lythar

4y↑15

I'm currently a Deck rating, going through my Able Seamen training, and this all amazes me, we only have to know 15 Knots & Splices for our EDH (Efficient Deck Hand) I couldn't imagine having to learn twice that much. Also having no Naval history in my family going into this line of work was such a big culture shock, the Language among other things is such a hard thing to come to understand and use, I'm still getting lost on my ship because of it. Great Video, keep it up!

Cassadin Lythar

@Ruffian Eo They all have there uses however I do find that there are some I use a lot more that others. I don't think I've been taught one that I've never had to use.

Ruffian Eo

Thinking about the many knots... how many use cases for knots are there? Tying 2 ropes together, tying a rope to a pole, having a knot which tightens and one which does not tighten... so why 15 or 35 knots - would 5 knots not cover all applications?

Drink Snapple

2y↑2

I was a USN officer. In my frigate (FF1052 class) we had a crew of 17 officers and 240 enlisted.
Whenever the Air Detachment was onboard (1 x helicopter) that added 4 more officers and 12 enlisted.
Sometimes we even had a US Coast Guard detachment which further added 1 officer and 8 enlisted.
So...the most we ever carried for a patrol was a total of 22 officers and 260 enlisted.

PickBit

2y↑7

The amount of men such a ship could accomodate testifies to what an amazing work of engineering a vessel of this period could be. A common frigate was a relatively small ship and yet could give lodging to 300 men as well as store all the necessary gear, ammunition, weaponry and cargo while still reaching speeds of 14 knots...
to think there are those who still believe the people in 18th\19th century were stupid and who mock line warfare

Joe A.

That's the future. What a fascinating and modern age we live in

Joseph Daujotas

2y↑1

Line warfare was actually pretty smart considering that other naval traditions required swarming and boarding actions. One of the precursors to the development of the line of battle occurred during the first conquest of Ormuz. Albuquerque defeated 250 Arabian ships containing 4,000 men with 6 ships and 460 men at the cost of 11 wounded killing 900. He did this by making a carousel formation which allowed his ships to concentrate their firepower into the tightly clumped up rowed ships trying to board or bring their archers to bear.

Derek S

2y↑3

My ancestor was a Bosun on HMS Naiad, a frigate that was part of the British fleet at the battle of Trafalgar. He was a career sailor but became the Greenwich piermaster when he retired from the Royal Navy. His descendents all worked in the London docks until my father who became the first one to work in an office keeping company accounts.

dan brooks

6y↑3

awesome video, it would be great if you did a similar breakdown of the crew of a vessel from a different era, or some other unit you find interesting or characteristic!

Wayne Robinson

7y↑3

Excellent video. The data analysis about the composition of various ranks was really nicely done. I came for the the sailing and stayed for the analytics!

Percy Prune MHDOIF and bars

7y↑3

Cracking video sir! It's not easy dealing with technical, historical subjects like this in a language not your own, kudos to you for doing it, and doing a bang up job to boot! To a purist, some of your pronunciations are, a little odd, however, in this day and age, many native English speakers have the same issues! I doff my cap to you, this is good stuff. Finally, just to say, I know we're I to try and match your feat in reverse, you would most likely damage yourself laughing! ;-) Please, keep up the good work!

Mike Regan

5y↑4

Absolutely fantastic, I really appreciate what you've done.

david vincent

2y↑2

Fun fact : the Hermione, a replica of a frigate pretty close in size to this one (270-300 sailors) has a crew of only 80 members, thanks to heavy automation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fakw-bS3ujI

Allan Monroe

2y↑2

Well done video. I've read a fair bit about the age of sail & served on a tall ship. This is probably one of the best video breakdowns of the crewing of a sailing warship. Keep up the good work.

Military History Visualized

2y↑1

Glad you enjoyed it!

Heart of Fire

7y↑2

Hey MHV I love your channel. I was wondering if you would please do more medieval/ancient videos? I watched all your videos on Rome, the video on Alexander's Logistics and also the castle, archers, and trebuchet videos. You did a great job and it would be great to see more of that sort!

Military History Visualized

hey, thank you! Well, the ratio might change, but right now I am working on doing more data-centric stuff, thus there will be probably less of those areas. Another point is, outside of WW2 I need to spend way more time in properly researching, because I am not so aware of these areas, also there is nothing like the "Germany and the Second Wold War"-Book-Series that provides an excellent overview with a large amount of depth... usually there is only: overview or overwhelming details. Although, I gathered some excellent books on forts & castles, there will be definitely more on those, also since Austria is "littered" with castles, but there might be more in 2018 on that, I had to postpone a project due to costs and time.

My notepad

7y↑1

Really nice video. I suppose the only thing you didn't touch on was that the ship was also a training vessel. Landsmen in the waisters would be learning the skills of seamen in the hopes of eventually being rated able, and midshipmen would be learning how to be officers, including navigation lessons and such

awpdog

7y↑5

The lighthearted descriptions for the icons are just superb. Makes following the numbers easier. :)

genericusername769

7y↑6

awesome video! as a sailor in the US navy I love learning about the roots of our traditions

Spok Recordings

2y↑1

This was after you traitors had split 🧐

Steven Banks

4y↑1

Crew size, compared to a merchant ship of similar draft, was enormous. And yet it was always the Navy that was pressing man out of merchant ships that could ill afford the crew reduction. The Navy always needed more crew, willing or not (mostly not) to fight and sell the ship and crew prizes back to port.

Uhlan

7y↑3

You mention the Lively class boat Spartan (38), some may find it of interest that another Lively class boat, HMS Macedonian fought and was captured by the American frigate United States. Macedonian had a crew of 301 and suffered 43 killed and
71 wounded.

GuitarNoob101

7y↑6

Would be interesting to have one of these videos on WWII era (or even modern) battleships and carriers. A big project!

GuitarNoob101

7y↑1

Cool! Well, I look forward to it, whenever you can manage that. ; ) Keep up the great content!

Military History Visualized

7y↑7

was the original plan and I put quite some time into finding source on that, then I got the book and well, Nelson's Navy first :)

Stephen Britton

I have seen other sources that stated "Marines were assigned at one Private per gun, plus the necessary officers and NCO's." Thus this ship would have 36 privates. It may also be a case of "how many privates can we actually recruit vs get killed."

Ulrich Hammerla

Found that today. A former cap hoorn sailing captain told me in the sixtees, how sailing vessels were crewd.
On commercial vessels one shift could only maneuvre one of the main sails, "all hands on deck" meant handling all sails on one mast.
Maneuvers like a gyb or a tack took hours.
Military vessels were crewd so, that "all hands" could handle all masts at the same time.

Boz

7y↑1

Great video as always, but I was wondering, were you planning on doing something more modern soon? I'd love to see a video explaining the organisation and structure of the NATO forces from one of the wars in the Middle East, maybe something like the German equipment in WW2 but on a larger scale. Or, if you have the information on hand, it would be cool to understand how the Russians invaded Crimea (if you can get the information without being assassinated by Putin).

Just some ideas if you see them. Love the channel!

Boz

7y↑1

That's fair enough, I can understand that you'd want to have a deep enough understanding about what you're making videos about!

Merry Christmas and thanks for the response B)

Military History Visualized

7y↑2

I have been expanding my knowledge and libraries mostly into the Pacific, Napoleonic and WW1 era. Also a bit into Medieval, especially Castles and a bit the Crusades. My recent looks into proper books for modern stuff were of limited success, also I need to start reading and less buying. One thing I learned in this year is simply: 1 good book allows me to create several videos in a rather short amount of time, whereas several average books often are not good enough for 1 video or even lead to cancelled projects.
Hence, I decided to spend more time on researching proper literature before.
I probably will work my way out of the Cold War first, also contemporary stuff like 21st century might be rare.
Of course my plans always change and adapt, as are my interests, so there is always a bit of dice throw in it as well.

Tanks Explosions Anime

7y↑2

I love these videos. Fun to watch, great presentation and of course you learn interesting stuff

No Brick

7y↑4

I remember when you started with little subscribers and views. It makes me happy to see your channel grow this big. Awesome content, keep it up mang

LegendLength

That was great. I would like to see an in depth look at the various officers and what they did day to day.

Kenneth Connors

I was surprised a ship of that size had so many crew.. well done you explained it all clearly

imperialgames

Great video, it was extremely interesting. What would be really near is if you had a video of say a modern warship. Its really interesting that even a modern destroyer still has around a crew of 300 men.

Tom J

7y↑14

Very good video. Reminds me of Master and Commander, nice to see all the ships roles visualized.
Merry Christmas.

Grimlitz

Oh man! Lovely! Do more of these, please! 17th-18th century army organisation maybe?

H. Paul Honsinger

7y↑65

As a something of a student of these things, I offer my congratulations for producing this is a wonderful video. You boiled a great deal of data down to a usable, watchable chunk for the layman in most admirable fashion. I do offer the following--in addition to the pronunciation corrections already given for "chaplain" and "admiralty" as they are spoken on land and at sea, there are a few that are not heard on land much and that don't make any phonetic sense whatsoever:

"boatswain" is pronounced "BOW sun."
"forecastle" is pronounced "FOKE sul." Note to be confused with "FORE sul," see below.

And, of possible use in future videos: if "sail" appears in any word, it is pronounced "sul." For example, "mainsail" is pronounced "MAIN sul." "Tampion" (the wooden plug that goes in the barrel of the guns to keep water and corrosion out) in those days and on those ships was pronounced "TOM kin." It receives a more phonetically orthodox pronunciation today (TAM pee un"). "Gunwale" was then and is now "GUN ul." "Mast" when part of another word is generally spoken as "must," as in "foremast" which is pronounced "FORE must." Note that the "u" in "must" here is spoken with the "schwa" vowel sound with almost no vocalization at all, as with "u" in "circus."

A.M. Fortas

@ODDBALL SOK hahahahaha

Sean

4y↑3

@ODDBALL SOK Actually, from the Old English 'batswegen', from 'bat' (boat) and Old Norse 'sveinn' (boy). And to answer Derp's question, 'chaplain' is pronounced 'CHAP-lun', not 'chap-LANE' -- not that English spelling gives you any clue to the proper pronunciation, and the Old French 'chapelein' (and the modern 'chapelain') are pronounced '-lane', so I can understand the confusion.

Bit of trivia from the age of sail: If you stand at the front of the fo'c'sle and look down for'ard over the railing to where the bowsprit emerges from the hull, you will see, on either side of the bowsprit, a wooden plank with one or more round holes cut in it (larger ships would have boxed shafts running down through the bow structure). These were used by the sailors to relieve themselves, wiping with the gouty end of a rope that was dangled in the water to clean it. They were referred to by their location at the head of the ship, and that's why a toilet is called a 'head' in the navy. This was just for the seamen, however; the officers would have their own in compartments in the stern galleries, where they didn't have to go out to the bow when the ship may be ploughing into rough seas and geting soaked.

Erika Whelan

Similarly, coxswain (the person in charge of the ship's boats, especially the Captain's barge) is pronounced cox-un.

ODDBALL SOK

7y↑2

boatswain comes from the norwegian båtsmann, in dutch (also old dutch) it was bootsman...all the NorthSea countries mark him as a Boat-man...and what do the english do ? misunderstand it and pervert it into boat-swain ??

Adamast

Not sure those words were already butchered 200 years ago and apparently the old prononciation is still common.

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Duane Bridges

MHV, I am having a tricky time reconciling one of your numbers with my prior research.
You count five Senior Seaman Warrant Officers. I know four - Boatswain, Master, Gunner, and Carpenter. Indeed, these four have their own "crews" assigned to them as mates! These four must pass very special board exams. The Master is a wardroom officer and the other three are "standing warrant officers" and berth and mess in their own areas separate from wardroom or cockpit.
I am having trouble finding a source that mentions a fifth warrant officer that would qualify both as senior and as a "seaman" rather than a civilian.

phoenix55755

4y↑2

I remember the Minerva from when I played Pirates of the Burning Sea. It was one of my favorite ships.

Doc Possum

Amazing info as always and love the subtle jokes! xD
It's SOOOOO much easier for me to understand things when they are presented visually so this style of vid is exactly what I need!
Thank you so much! :D

Robert Li

7y↑3

I know this was two months ago but can you please do a overview of the infantry tactics of the napoleonic era? Please this will really help me

Military History Visualized

7y↑1

will happen, probably cavalry first, because I have nothing done in the horsie area besides a few rainbow dash references for shit & giggles.

ladamyre

Love your videos. FYI, in English navies the title "boatswain" is pronounced BO-zen or BO-sen, either is OK.

Chris

4y↑1

Very informative. Thanks for drilling down and presenting this. Keep the videos coming !!!

Andy

It shows how names are handed down through history. My grandad worked in the docks all his life from a boy of 14 till he retired at 65 if you was the lowest rank on the docks they called you a waister just like on the masted battleships of the day. They also had a blacksmith on board and a blacksmiths forge to repair any iron work on the boat if damaged in battle. There is a saying in England if it’s very cold we say “ it’s cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey” this refers to the 1600 and 1700’s battleship the iron cannon balls was stored in a pyramid shape on top of a square frame made of brass as they contract differently in cold weather the brass shrinks and the iron cannon balls roll off. And also in the theatre’s in london the back stage hands are called crew this is due to the fact if you was a sailor out of work you worked in the theatres as you was good with ropes managing the stage props and screens all operated by ropes. Bench the name back stage crew.

Daniel Hall

7y↑1

really good video - i would really like to see more like this

Jeff Aldrich

In the video 17-18 % of the crew were gunners. Did these percentages ever change with the introduction of Paixhans guns on frigates? After 1840 explosive shell guns started being used of Navy ships.

mrspeigle1

also important to note that crewing a ship was a very difficult task and often ships would be under crewed from thier full complement

dstblj 52

but their were officers wives and what not to make up the difference

billiondollardan

I looked up how fast these frigates were. I thought they'd be slow but they could run 14 knots! That's crazy

Alfred Wedmore

If you visit Chatham, there is a sloop - the Gannet - equipped for both steam and sail with a detachable prop. Maximum speed either way was about the same, i.e. hull speed.
Sailing ships were designed to carry a press of sail as close to hull speed as was safe.

Ashen One

Really cool video. Can you imagine being a captain of a giant ship like that? even today, being a captain of a huge freighter or other giant ship would be something I can't even imagine.

Ashen One

hey the largest thing ive ever been in on the water is a 20' fishing boat, so these are all huge to me.

sublicense18a

Frigates weren't giant ships. They were smaller than a line of battle ship. Frigates would normally carry 25 -35 guns. A ship of the line usually started at 75. The biggest class were 90 -100+

bergonius

7y↑155

Yea.. This subject is quite a minefield for non-native english speaker.

Bryan Langley

Forecastle is pronounced "foke-sle." I think it's a very old word, to not be so intuitive.

KuraIthys

4y↑2

@Peter Tuffley That can trip up native speakers too, given that it's highly specialised technical vocabulary.

Obscure words being mispronounced isn't a sign of not being a native speaker so much as not ever having heard the technical vocabulary (which is rarely used in ordinary everyday communication) spoken out loud.

Cristian Combei

4y↑2

The word " English" should be capitalized.

pRahvi0

6y↑8

I wouldn't have understood more even if it was on my native language. The sailors have so many strange words for different parts of the ship or their duty, I don't know even half of them in any language.

Peter Tuffley

6y↑7

E.g. pronouncing "boatswain" as "boat" + "swain" not as the correct "bosun"

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John Carpenter

Very interesting and well done. Thank You!

ollj oh

"return of the obra dinn" was massively understaffed, and that is why its shop got lost at sea. (joke aside, the developer wanted a big ship before realizing how much of a crew that would add to the story complexity, and then just went with a crew of 50 (including 10ish visitors) for a ship that needs a crew of >250 to be seaworthy)

cavscout888

7y↑2

OMG this model looks exactly like my workplace (nuclear power plant). Even down to the marines (security officers).

Jack Carter

7y↑1

Excellent video, thank you for making it.

tenhirankei

Before watching the video I could account for the number in my head. You need a certain amount to account for shifts (or watches as he put it) then take into account any crew laid up with disease or died from that, accident or "willful behavior of another in a most unseemly manner to person or persons".

Draco Lithfiend

A few things I want to say. From the 1790's throught the 1820's the Royal Navy expanded by about 2,000 ships. This massive expansion left huge gaps in the able sailors and seamen so "Perfect" numbers such as these simply didn't exist. On top of this ship classes were not identical and it was common for the navy to capture a french ship that was similar to one of their own and call it such. This might mean two 38 gun frigates of the same class are totally different. One has 35 cannon, the other has 44 cannon, and neither have the correct type of hull. Finally I would like to point out that British records of this era are notoriously bad. More often than not the French would record a tradeship leaving port with 40 men and grain only to have the British capture it and claiming "133 killed, 17 wounded, 15 survivors. Captured grain cargo from warship and took aprize. 2 casualties on our ship." which is just a bit silly.

Draco Lithfiend

To be fair the definitions of ships is probably the most complicated thing about them. You can have an intelligent discussion about larboard mizzenmast rigging for instance but the moment you say "Brig" you have narrowed it down to several hundred ship types. I mean in the royal navy a Sloop cannot be commanded by a captain thus any Sloop with a captain on board becomes a Brig. Serious pain in the ass when you study such things xD

friggingbomb88

7y↑1

i wouldn't be surprised too if the royal navy claimed they rescued over 500 slavers in a Spanish slaver brig in the 1840s. I mean, how the fuck could they possibly fit 500 slavers in the hold of a brig, while they still needed cargo storage that feeded the slaves and the 100-men crew?

Marked Ashamed

Could we see the battle placement when beating to quarters? I know that Marines were often on masts as well as topside to provide rifle fire when ships reached close range.

Jeremy Pereira

Musket fire more likely.

The British weren’t all that keen on putting marines in the rigging because of the danger of fire.

Dritzz Darkwood

The boys had some of the most hazardous jobs in battle. They were called "powder monkeys" as they were used to haul ammunition and gun powder.

Debbiebabe69

Could you please give another one of these illustrating where each man went when in combat? Since the ship still needs to be sailed, would that mean the guns are mainly manned by sailmakers, surgeons, cooks, pursers ect?

Also, on how boarding parties were organised. Hollywood seems to think the first people to board an enemy ship would be the captain, boatswain, mates ect. Surely this cant be true, as all would happen is the most senioe crew serve just to absorb the enemy volley of musket fire with thier stomachs?

Monica Jüptner

Für die Kämpfe wurden üblicherweise nur die Marssegel genutzt. Alle anderen waren geborgen. Somit reichten pro Mast 4 bis 6 Personen für die Manöver. Da nur die Schoten und Geitaue zu besetzen waren. Der Rest der Mastcrew konnte also an den Kanonen mitarbeiten. Es ist auf jedem Schiff übliche, dass alle Crewmitglieder mehrere Positionen besetzen können müssen.

Andrew Himmer

4y↑2

Excellent video.

One thing to note, is that ship crew were routinely under-strength. This is especially true for the marine contingent. From the sources I routinely read and study a frigate of that size would rarely have a marine company as large as 50. One rule of thumb I read a while back was that the RN would at least try to get a marine for every gun on a ship. Even that seemed optimistic.

Spok Recordings

@Slappy 'were' past tense...

Andrew Himmer

Corrected.

Slappy

4y↑1

The ship's crew we are routinely under strength? Are you in a ship's crew?

Mihail Dimitrov

5y↑3

I have watched it a while ago. It's still a captivating and informative video. Congratulations and contuniue beeing awesome.
Also I liked the Mighty Jingles touch.

Chris Knight

2y↑1

I always enjoy your well researched videos.
For future reference, 'Boatswain' is pronounced 'Bosun', 'Forecastle' by this era had been shortened to 'Fo'castle' which is pronounced 'foeksul'.
Also no RN ship should be called 'THE HMS Whatever'. As the ship belongs to the monarch of the day this would equate to saying 'The His Majesty's Ship Whatever', which makes no sense grammatically. It would be acceptable to drop the HMS and refer to the vessel as 'The Whatever' though.
Ah, the vagaries of the English language, which you speak so well.

TheSunken

Fo'c'sle

Alfred Wedmore

@Chris Knight Along with the women on board (which he doesn't mention) but are attested to by correspondence between St. Vincent and Nelson. They were apparently responsible for clothes cleaning, some cooking, and actual running of the powder magazine.
When the Trafalgar medal was issued the women of the fleet applied for medals. They were refused on the grounds that if every woman who had served in an RN ship received the appropriate medals, there would not be enough metal to make them.
As it was often very difficult to crew ships fully it is easy to understand why wives and girl friends (at that period not that clearly distinguished since most people did not have a church marriage) were also on board.

Chris Knight

2y↑1

Also ship's boys were usually employed as 'powder monkeys' running between the guns and the magazines to supply gunpowder to the gun deck, as the minimum amount was stored above the waterline for safety reasons.

Steve Morse

7y↑1

With respect to Jordan's comment below
Very well done, thank you.

borbo23

Would the crew layout much have changed between Nelson's time and the end of the sailing age? As in, the last of the sailing ships, not the earliest steamships and such.

Cleatus McGurkin

7y↑1

I liked his use of the term "larboard" I haven't heard anybody use it in quite a few years, this guy know his stuff.

Matt Langstrom

7y↑1

Just found your channel, thank you for the awesome videos.

absolutetuber

i love the description of an able seaman. cool times and an awesome trade

Lenzp

I am missing completely different numbers: the ship has X sails, and for brassing you need Y men to release the ropes on one side and Z men to pull the ropes on the other side. The ship has X guns and after a shout you need Y men to turn the gun, load it and turn it back.

Too-much-cider

7y↑2

With regards pronunciations, it makes no difference what languages you are competent in (even English) as there is a particular way seamen traditionally pronounce certain words and terminologies many sounding shortened or clipped or heavily abbreviated. Personally I wouldn't worry about it unless you are on a working vessel where terminology is relevant.

James Dunn

I understand that the crews of British Navy ships were so large in order to provide adequate cover in the event of deaths and injuries of crew members from combat or sickness/disease.

Mark Gouthro

They also needed such a large crew to handle attrition. Deaths tolls on ships could be very high,

gfarrell80

So, in battle who among the crew would become the gunners? I would assume you may need to keep at least some of the Topmen managing the rigging. So mostly the Forcastle Men, Waisters, Afterguard, and Idlers would probably be the gun crews?

nomnom

7y↑16

Can you make this into a poster with detailed legend? I would love to have one to hang in my office.

Military History Visualized

7y↑9

was thinking about it, but the design of the ship is far too shitty and I have no idea on how to improve on that.

Jacob Porter

Very well done, thanks for the information!

mch158

Great video, thanks for spending time on it!

blockmasterscott

Just think, sometime in the late 19th century, a lot of those guys found themselves with nothing to do when the world went to steam driven iron ships. I wonder how they felt!

Dmitri Pogosian

It did not happen overnight. Otherwise - as always what happens when you profession becomes redundant. You retire, possibly into poverty, and is forgotten, while new generations run with new technology

stephen duffy

13 ports aside on the lower deck not counting the unarmed bridle port forward makes her a 36. 14 plus a bridle port makes her a 38.

Lawn Bowls for Fun

Very interesting. Well put together. Thanks.

Rupert Harrison

+Military History Visualized another well done video.Keep up the good work.

Powder Monkey

Just to let you know, Boatswain is pronounced bow-sun. Bow as in archery bow, not the bow of a ship. In fact, it's sometimes incorrectly spelled bosun as that's how it's pronounced.

Jeremy Pereira

“Bosun” isn’t necessarily wrong. The spelling dates back until at least Shakespeare’s time.

Joe Hayward

4y↑6

Holy cow were did all of these men fit???? While I was in the US Marines I served on the great BB63 USS Missouri we might had over 1000 guys on board and it was tight.

Sean Malloy

4y↑1

@Wriggler 69 The docent aboard the Surprise (the ship used in the Master and Commander movie) at the San Diego Maritime Museum has a joke about the design differences, commenting on how you can tell British-built ships from American-built ships -- British-built ships have square holes to put the posts into the capstans, while American-built ships have round holes. This is to reduce the number of decisions the American sailors had to make when inserting the poles.

Calumn McCluskey

You’d never have every man “Off watch” at anyone time, there’s always some one standing watch during the night or working. Add in that they didn’t have bunks, and you can fit men practically anywhere

Chris Delzell

4y↑2

@Wriggler 69 we do build ships with lots of crew space, from what I know. I think it is a matter of cruise time. A coast guard cutter might have no amenities beyond seats for the pilot and gunners, while a supercarrier deployed off Japan might have barber shops and restaurants and a briefing room that turns into a movie theater.

To put it from more personal experience: I don't know of any other Air Force that has beds and ovens and cupholders in their combat planes, but then I don't know of any combat planes that are expected to fly for more than 36 hours without beds and cupholders. It could be an American thing or a strategic bomber thing equally well.

Wriggler 69

I served in the South African navy back in the 80s. We were told that modern naval ship design is very different in America. Whereas most of the world's navies squeezed their men into the spaces between the ship's equipment, the Americans first designed the crew's living quarters and then placed the equipment around them. I suspect there was some tongue-in-cheek going on...

Gödeke Michels

7y↑1

One should also note that Naval ships of that time usually took a good amount more crew witht hem than actually needed because they had to expect a quite high amount of deaths even on a peacefull journey. Even with scurvy somewhat under controll thanks to try and error research like from Cpt. Cook a long distance sea journey was far from safe and the supply sittuation far from optimal back then. This was also the reason that important skills were doubled, tribbled an so on.

wesley115777

7y↑11

To my understanding, the level of crew strength you give here was often not met and captains frequently struggled to fully man their ships. It was unusual to have enough men to fight both sides of the ships guns at one time. Pronunciation note: "Boatswain" is pronounced "Bosun" Additional points: the Gunner and his mates were also responsible for the ammunition where keeping powder and shot in good condition aboard a leaky wood ship was no simple task. The Carpenter and his mates had to repair battle and storm damage, and more importantly, maintain the ship, which was constantly deteriorating. Of course you can't provide very much detail in these short (but excellent) videos, I'm just trying to show that most of the tasks you mention are actually quite complex and required specialized training (though this was basically on the job training).

blusafe1

2y↑1

Ahh crew manning, the constant pain of naval captains since antiquity.

Phil Waters

7y↑1

Excellent summary my man... thank's for that... All the more full an understanding of the antique cassette tapes of Robert Hardy reading Patrick O'brian's series of historical naval novels... xxx ;-)

Sam Adams

I'm quite surprised how few NCOs the marines had. I would have imagined they would have a captain, lieutenant and then at least 5 NCOs for that many men. I assume they consider corporals NCOs in this era? It seems that if their officer or any of the NCOs were incapacitated or killed they would be severely crippled leadership wise. Then again, I assume if the officer died they would simply fall under the direct command of one of the naval commissioned officers.

IE B

7y↑5

I liked hearing about the mates and midgetmen. Please keep uploading vids!

First Last

7y↑1

Sounds like rule34 to me.

Titan Uranus

7y↑3

Midshipmen.

Birkbecks

7y↑1

excellent very well done keep up the good work

grathian

Interesting, my first frigate, USS Koelsch, FF-1049, had a crew of 278 men....

Charles A.

7y↑3

This was an amazing video! I'm not sure how I haven't seen your work before, but I love what I see and will stick around.
Just a note about pronunciation (from a sailor) for if you make similar videos in the future:
"Forecastle" is pronounced "foh-cah-sul" or "fo'c'sle"
"Boatswain" is pronounced "bo-sun." Basically the theme for boat words is pronounce as little as possible haha.
And if you run into "bowline" (a knot) it's "boh-linn" and "leeward" is "lew-ward."
Happy holidays! :D

Charles A.

@Military History Visualized Certainly! I heard that Royal Navy sailors were supposedly banned from swearing -- was this true? It seems to go completely against the public image of sailors then (and now). Thanks again.

Military History Visualized

7y↑1

thank you... I checked only the pronunciation of "Mizzen", because I thought that would be probably a weird one... but it wasn't, but yeah, I should have known that those sailors probably spoke another English.

ClayZ

Nice job. Narration was good. Of all the jobs, it sounds like being an artisan would be pretty good. You cant be pressed into anything but your skills whatever you are known for.

Mike Meyer

7y↑3

Not only were the regulations about crew size less lax, but the way guns were counted toward ship size wasn't exactly precise. Do you only count main guns? Only those that participate in a broadside? Did mortars that were normally stowed count? Etc. So the same ship could easily be counted as either a 36-gun or 38-gun ship.

But thank you for pointing out the issue with the illustration!

First Last

well now that does sound confusing

MrChyort

It's more complicated than that. It's not about carronades. Forecastle and quarterdeck armament was not counted in its entirety even if they were long guns.

For example, if a frigate carries 16 32-pdr carronades on the weather deck (with no chasers), but then replaces them with 16 6-pdr long guns, the rating will not change.

Despite carrying 44 pieces of cannon overall, she would be rated as 36 or 38-gun frigate, most likely. Because the weather deck armament is so much weaker than the main-deck guns, they arbitrarily have their value 'adjusted' lower.

For example, HMS Surprise was rated for 28 guns despite carrying well over 30 guns in her broadside.

friggingbomb88

they didn't count the cannonades on the bow or stern. Some captains or admirals fitted these as extras as they pleasured. The rating system only followed how many guns there were for broadside. Anything lower than the 6th rate would be another story.

First Last

That would account for a bout a 2-4 count difference wouldnt it? : ) Thanks.

MrChyort

Gun counts did not include the bow and stern chasers, at least not until after the Napoleonic Era.

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Methylparaben

An interesting point about the Marines is that they were placed between the officers and the rest of the crew on the ship. This is because the Marines joined at their own free will where as the seamen were forced to join.

Ian moseley

Methylparaben some seamen were volunteers

joseph langan

That's interesting the term waster or "waister" is still used in Ireland as a derogatory term for a useless person, great video besides, those old ship's must have been pretty crowded

KuraIthys

Yeah, the whole time I was watching this I was wondering what the actual dimensions and layout of a ship like this look like.
Sure must've been cramped, and where does everyone sleep?

knotkool1

278 was the optimum number. it would have been a lucky captain that sailed with a full crew.

Tom Servo

7y↑3

Being the ship's surgeon had to have required more nerve than any combat role.

BraveSirRobin

It takes but a quick glance on your earlier posts to get your mettle, boy...

First Last

7y↑1

@MichaelKingsfordGray
Thats my plan.Goodbye rude person.

hairyneil

7y↑1

Be better than being a patient...

"I stubbed me toe, doc!"

reaches for amputation saw

First Last

7y↑3

I dont believe you because in the military people are taught to be respectful and would never hurl insults over a simple question.

First Last

MichaelKingsfordGray Have you ever been a navy surgeon?

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R Fletch

7y↑1

Outstanding job!

Jordan Hankison

7y↑139

I've worked on replica ships of this type (though much smaller). This video is spectacularly done! Thank you for the time you took to make this a visually stimulating and historically accurate representation of a man of war. Thoroughly impressed!

Ewan Marshall

@Nick Thornton I know, but that was also square rigged on those masts :D

Nick Thornton

@Uhlan schooners are DEFO 2 masters with the taller one aft in order to differentiate from ketches and yawls

Nick Thornton

@Ewan Marshall a three master was in fact called "ship rigged" as opposed to a poleacre or bark or whatever

Roger Marsh

Schooners in the 18th - early 19th centuries were almost exclusively 2-masted vessels with square topsails on the foremast and sometimes on the mainmast too. As merchant schooners developed during the 19th century, larger multi-masted schooners evolved, often without square topsails on any mast. 3-masters became very common; many larger schooners were built with more than 3 masts.The largest of all schooners, the American 'Thomas W Lawson', launched in 1902, sported 7 fore-and-aft rigged masts. Man-of-war cutters and man-of-war schooners of the 18th - early 19th century period were of similar hull size and armament and could be rigged either way; occasionally the same hull was re-rigged from one to the other configuration.

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Capt Bumbler

HMS Trincomalee a frigate of this period built 1816 is now a museum ship stationed in Hartlepool UK, she is the second oldest ship still a float. USS Constitution is the oldest. A strange thing is the Constitution sank the ship carrying the original drawing plan and order for the Trincomalee to be built. Which caused her build to be delayed