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@wilfredpadilla6685

45w↑96

The TV writers strike in 2007-2008, often referred to as the Writers Guild of America (WGA) strike, was primarily caused by issues related to compensation and residuals in the era of digital media and streaming platforms. While streaming itself did not directly cause the strike, it played a significant role in the disputes between the writers and the studios.

At the heart of the conflict was the writers' demand for fair compensation for their work when it was distributed through new digital platforms such as streaming services, downloads, and online platforms. The writers argued that their residuals and compensation structures were not adequately updated to account for the growing digital market and the potential for increased profits.

The emergence of streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime Video disrupted the traditional television landscape, leading to changes in how content was consumed and monetized. The writers believed that their compensation should reflect the value of their work in the digital realm, which was rapidly gaining popularity.

The studios and networks, however, maintained that the existing contracts and compensation models were sufficient and resisted making significant changes to the writers' terms. The Writers Guild of America went on strike on November 5, 2007, with thousands of TV and film writers participating, demanding a fair share of revenue from digital distribution.

The strike lasted for 100 days, significantly impacting the television industry. Many scripted TV shows went on hiatus or had shortened seasons, resulting in a decline in viewership and revenue for networks. The strike also affected the production schedules of movies and late-night talk shows, causing disruptions across the entertainment industry.

Ultimately, after months of negotiations, the WGA and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) reached a tentative agreement in February 2008. The agreement included some concessions from the studios, providing writers with increased compensation for digital media and a share of revenue from streaming and downloads.

While streaming itself was not the direct cause of the strike, it was a catalyst for the writers' demands for fair compensation in the changing landscape of media consumption. The strike brought attention to the evolving nature of the industry and the need to address compensation and residuals in the digital age. It marked an important moment in the ongoing discussions and negotiations surrounding the impact of streaming on the entertainment industry.

@LucasPenido

33w↑1

1. Typewriter repair
2. Film developing and processing
3. Switchboard operators
4. VCR repair
5. Fax machine repair
6. Travel agents
7. Video rental stores
8. Encyclopedia salespeople
9. Photo lab technicians
10. Toll booth operators
11. Telemarketers
12. Newspaper delivery personnel
13. Film projectionists
14. CD/DVD manufacturing
15. Pager sales and service
16. Film camera manufacturers
17. Phone book publishers
18. Film editors (with the shift to digital editing)
19. Tape recorder manufacturers
20. Typists

What is the common denominator between all of them? They all got replaced by technology sooner or later! I was once a writer (3.000+ posts on a very successful Brazilian Lifestyle website) but I knew that sooner or later, instagram would replace blogs and even websites, just as websites replaces magazines. So I had to reinvent myself, and that’s what I did. Trying to atop technology doesn’t work.

Love or hate, but as AI evolves, it’ll make most writers a retrograde profession. Even though it’s such a noble one.

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@Vox

46w↑4.9K

Disclosure: Vox Media’s editorial team is also unionized with the Writers Guild of America, East. But its members are not part of the strike covered in this video, nor are they part of the contract negotiations with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers.

@dunk.

46w↑111

aight

@HaarmannE

46w

SCABS

@ThatOneGuy7550

46w↑75

🤨🤨

@Marina-vu2vi

46w↑232

She said nobody is asking for 22 eps back , thats not true!!! I want it back!!!

@DePirre

46w↑149

@@Marina-vu2viyeah me too! Because you had the time for character development. Okay you had some filler episodes but still. Nowadays some seasons feel rushed or you don't understand the doing of a character. I need the 20-25 episodes a season to be brought back 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

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@user-jp7tw3sd3x

46w↑5.8K

I've seen writers also complain that not only are writing periods smaller, they are contractually forbidden to work for another show in the mean time.

@stev6963

46w↑597

That is downright disgusting.

@GordonRamseyIsMyLifestyle

46w↑139

WHAT

@Malloubyn

46w↑357

BRO that's legit evil. That forces them to suffer through stress and make compromises without a sliver of agency in the matter.

@fanstop456

46w↑21

OMG ! Is it real reason?

@thewatcherinthecloud

46w↑72

Did you guys watch the video? Have any of you worked full time jobs? Even if they could work two projects at once, that would mean being on call for both projects.

Anyone who has worked at shoots in productions with hectic schedules and at locations that are available for a limited time would know working at one project is already hard enough. Unless you're an executive of BOTH productions, you don't have the have the luxury of coordinating the logistics of the productions to your favor.

Focus on the problem they're actually discussing, which is the lower work periods per production and the lowe compensation per viewing of products.

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@RobbieChance

44w↑3.8K

Streaming didn't cause the writer's strike - greedy companies and people did. I support the writers and hope they get everything and more.

@ElverGalargaChupas

41w

WE LIVE IN A DIFFERENT WOLRD NOW!!! These cry babies want things to be as they were in 1990 hahahahaa IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN L0SERS!!!

@prabhdeepdhahan1147

41w↑25

I support the writers as well.

@scruffd0g193

41w↑47

That’s what I’m saying. Canceling Netflix or HBO leads to literally nothing.

@leftifornian2066

41w

@@scruffd0g193this job is on its way out
If you can’t write better than a brainless ai you’re not needed

@d.b.cooper1

40w↑27

@@scruffd0g193 They all have a seat at the table which signs off on these deals to end the strike. They can be hurt more so than traditional old school cable as people can cancel with a few clicks right away. A trend in cancellations can have huge impacts if it catches on even for few months.

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@SMtWalkerS

45w↑1.3K

This really explains how vastly changed the business is. Someone is making plenty of money from the creative work of these writers. Management needs to share, I support the writers.

@E_D___

42w↑33

The funny thing is that the streaming services are not making money.
They are all losing money, and are all vetting on the other streaming services to give up first.
(You can check, the yearly earnings are public information. Netflix had never had a positive year)

@kevindao1103

42w↑45

@@E_D___ Most of the major media companies can make up the difference in other ways. Disney might lose $659 million in the 2nd Quarter this year from their streaming division, but their parks division created $2.2 Billion in profit for example this quarter. Disney overall had a $28.7 Billion profit from their 2022 Balance sheet across all their assets.

They have the money. They're just not willing to share that piece of the pie.

This is also why Apple can take a loss on Apple Music and Google with YouTube/Music since they can make up the difference by selling iPhones/hardware and selling Google Ads respectively.

Yes, Netflix and Spotify for instance have no choice but to take a loss and figure out how to recuperate that with means they have to figure out, yet for these major media conglomerates they already do.

@blessedkangara858

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@@kevindao1103facts

@seranibitanta5774

40w↑10

No one is making money from streaming. It’s not profitable, what might eventually happen is cable all over again because that actually made money.

@RajDeelish

39w↑6

@@kevindao1103 Disney has debt. It's not like they're swimming in dollar bill swimming pools. Cash in the bank (with debt still floating out there) is 11 billion.

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@crystalpritchard5065

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This video is so interesting because you realize how similar this issue is to what most people are experiencing in the workforce. Way back in the day, people used to spend their entire careers working at one company, they could start in the mailroom and make their way up the ladder to the executive suite. Nowadays the mailroom jobs are often contracted out so you don’t build seniority and you don’t get benefits and so career growth is that much harder and there’s no company loyalty. At the end of the day, it’s all about maximizing profits to the detriment of workers everywhere.

@deadlee0b1

34w

Also to the long term detriment of the company. When I worked at RadioShack (I know, I'm old), the CEO had started as a cashier in a local store. You had a guy running the company who had worked at almost every level. Someone who knew what it was like to work on the shop floor, to manage a store, to manage a district of stores. CEO's these days are just glorified accountants that have no idea how the company actually functions.

@bed-bugg

32w↑5

I was just having this thought the other day as I was talking to my partner. We both have relatively stable jobs, but it's not what either of us would call a "career". In our jobs there's really only so far that you can really move up before you're just stuck there, whereas in the past you might be able to move up higher and have better pay for doing so with incentives to stay at companies for longer. Now, the pay raise for a promotion is minimal, the bonuses for staying 10+ years with a company are almost non-existent and there's little chance to move up.

It seems these days that it's almost better to stay at a job for a few years and then move onto another if there's a hiring bonus with a pay raise (compared to your current job).

@kimberliesharp3042

41w↑448

Netflix is a prime example of this. Wednesday did as well as Stranger Things. They didn’t retain any of there writers bc of this streaming structure. Not one writer from the first season was signed on for the second season. It’s 100% a different show by that alone.

@rockstar-kp2jy

39w↑6

🥺 oh no

@marlak4203

39w↑9

Is the show even still on? Used to hear about it quite a bit now nothing

@waltblackadar4690

38w↑15

Actually, this doesn't help the argument. Stranger Things has had couple of the same writers the entire time but there has been a lot of turnover. But if there is that much turnover of the lower-level writers and the show itself continues to be a critical and commercial hit then those lower-level writers were easily replaceable and not critical to the success of the show. It really doesn't matter how successful a show is in terms of compensation if a role's contribution to that success is so minor that having a revolving door in that role doesn't alter the quality of the product. That's not to say they shouldn't be compensated or that this strike isn't justified - but it does go to show that the success or failure of the product isn't reliant upon those writers but instead that success is on people like the Duffer Bros who ARE the ones who are making the big bucks.

@Tangie.098

35w↑2

@@waltblackadar4690BS, what about GoT? What happened there, he?

@CamJames

32w

so what you're saying is only Showrunners should get paid fairly. Lot of words to make that point.@@waltblackadar4690

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@thegreydruid

44w↑99

Post Productionist here, we've felt the lack of work and as the years have gone on less and less pay. I used to get paid $30 an hour now its $19 and I've been doing it for 10+ years. This is needed for the whole industry.

@quenchboi

45w↑117

We live in an age where tv shows, movies, make a LOT of money. I’m sure streaming has a small impact on the strike, but overall I think it boils down to the top dogs making the money and them not wanting to pay people for their talent. We see it on every profession, and should be calling out the failed system for what it is. Trickle down economics have never, and will never work. Everyone should be paid at the VERY least, enough to live on, not just barely “survive”

@FlabbyTabby

37w↑7

Yeah, this is the crux of the problem. French Revolution looking real good right now.

@GabeNsApostle

35w↑2

@@FlabbyTabbyKilling hundreds of thousands for trumped up charges, enabling anarchy in the countryside and installing a Corsican emperor, I think, won’t solve your problems.

@NikkiBWithTheAdHd

38w↑314

I really appreciated this break down. Definitely helped me to understand this strike and how important it truly is to entertainment.

@siddhantsingh3411

39w↑232

Bad writing surfaces upfront but good writing goes unnoticed by majority of the audience. These writers should be leading the line.

@siddhantsingh3411

38w↑1

@@fdaa3154 Read my statement again. I never said bad writers should get paid more did I?

@MCKidProducer

38w↑10

@@fdaa3154that’s what happens when you kick writers out instead of training them

@richardsejour7731

38w↑8

@@MCKidProduceryou can't train writers to be more effective at creating engaging stories. I would understand if these writers were regularly creating shows with the quality of writing seen in the write, but they are creating generic stories. These writers are overpaid and its ridiculous for them to demand more money.

@melissagreye8445

37w↑5

@richardsejour The writers should demand more money because the studios are still making a large amount of money off of the writers creative work.

@rickmorty5215

34w

@@melissagreye8445 Well, to be fair, Disney has been losing a lot of money lately. They lost $900 million in the quarter ending 1 July.
This explains the frantic reshuffling that has been going on at executive level, but even that isn't helping.

The writing stinks. It's horrible. I put most of the blame on the executives, but also on the writers and actors as well for agreeing to participate in atrocious productions.

No one writes anything original anymore. There has to be a generic political script; no imagination or effort put into thinking about coherent narratives.

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@The_Beard

45w↑319

Can't stop thinking about how people tend to complain most about the writers when a show does not meet their expectations but it seems those complaints need to be directed towards the executives making bad decisions about how long they actually need to employ them.

@The_Beard

36w↑2

@@evilcookie123 I think the Witcher is a good example of what I was talking about - an executive and non writer (in the Witchers case the showrunner) is the one making the poor decision, from what I can tell at least.

@ShoeibShargo

39w↑294

I am all for more episodes. Imagine the writers who wrote Prison Break and kept you hooked all through 24 episodes in every season. Mad respect. I don't enjoy shorter episode series, it's like you are busting my bubble that I like too early.

@Hiah.l

38w↑6

or could be even in the way how the German thriller series Dark premised, shorter episodes per season but written in a way the plot is spread across 3 seasons, while retaining a major hook by the last ep of each season.

@usul573

38w↑4

I guess it depends on the style and pace of the storytelling or characters. I could imagine relaxing into longer seasons on some shows but sometimes they can just tell a focused story without wasting time.

@naisyjohns

37w↑1

Nah, I hated longer seasons. Far too repetitive, and the production values were awful.

@Supherodude

37w↑3

I think the solution to getting writers who work on streaming shows better pay is to create shows with more longevity. Most of the stuff on Netflix doesn’t last beyond 2 seasons. You have some rare exceptions like Stranger Things but it seems to me like these streaming services would rather just keep pumping out new content than create shows that can go on for multiple seasons.

@naisyjohns

37w

@@Supherodude The issue there is that episodes of television cost more time and money to produce these days, as they don't have advertised money like they did in the past. Because of this, they rely on subcribers paying every month, so they have to find other ways to entice them to pay. This includes having stars on their shows and increasing production values, etc, which further increases the costs.

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@puja_228

46w↑10K

Its sad how writers are considered bottom in the hierarchy when they are the ones who are creating the entire world.

@brianjohnson6053

46w↑179

The entire entertainment business is irrelevant. Rather watch 70s and 80s reruns than this tripe. There hasn't been anything decent in the last 30 years

@soyokou.2810

46w↑335

@@brianjohnson6053 What are three good shows you recommend from that era that are beyond what today's writers can come up with?

@littleraeofsunshine

46w↑140

Actors who aren't A-list are in a worse situation because they don't even have as much security as a writer does.

@johntnguyen1976

46w↑381

VFX artist here...we're even further down the ladder than writers. We don't even have a union. 😭 We're literally the only hollywood tradeskill that doesn't.

@radguurl

46w↑124

@@johntnguyen1976 I hope you all get a union soon! I know VfX artist and yes, it's a grueling job.

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@immealldayeveryday9425

38w↑31

Honestly they just need to make streaming shows longer, very often I’m upset with the fact that there is only 6 to 8 episodes per season

@shantelane2553

32w↑2

Me too!!
I use to watch a show called Insecure. The audiences begged for MORE episodes or at least longer show times.

@wilfredpadilla6685

45w↑96

@kgr04

39w↑2

Great explanation!

@connorjohnston6238

44w↑20

As a set carpenter for hollywood films this strike has had detrimental effects to the construction side of our industry as we have no work due to no available scripts. Hope something comes soon.

@k8r2r68

32w↑7

OMG! The writers are the heart of the show. Without them, there will be no beautiful stories to watch.😢

@GaidenDS10

45w↑99

Writing is just suparbly underrated that it's been the one who can absolutely carry the show, your artworks and the story themselves! except even some people just ignore them or never gave them status the same as the directors do.

@nobodyspecial4702

44w↑2

They are also the ones who can ruin a show with horrible writing, poor plot development, weak characters, etc. How many amazing streaming shows are there compared to absolute trash or more often, remakes of already written shows?

@tuffnerd1881

40w↑12

@@nobodyspecial4702 They give you that duality. Without writers, there wouldn't be shows or movies period. Nothing. With writers sure you may get 'bad' movies or shows, but without them there is literally nothing. And consider why they 'ruin' shows. Hmm. Maybe because they aren't being paid enough and therefore they do not care?

@guidosaur7506

46w↑17.5K

Reject streaming, embrace piracy

@A93ken

46w↑1.1K

I LOVE Pirates of the Caribbean

@wallacerigby4393

46w↑742

Lol if they don’t make money they’ll stop making shows. How about everyone go touch grass!

@PirateNikki

46w↑50

Here here!! lol

@KarlJames1

46w↑286

I used to pay for Netflix and hbo. But after a while I cancelled my subscription. I believe you can find anything online for free if you have the time and I think piracy isn’t a big problem the industry makes billions and isn’t a problem for the big studios

@tomlockwoodbartlett

46w↑232

er, how are the show's gonna get made then?

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@DevBob-yi7jl

41w↑20

The last season of Game of Thrones is proof why you need good writers

@adrianjlive4922

42w↑25

It’s incredible how streaming services affects so many in the entertainment industry, and even worst how many people care.

Yes, the writers strike is still ON.

@andreakhaid

40w↑25

The crunching down of TV and film is affecting more than just the writers. It's affecting everyone in that entertainment pipeline. I can totally relate this this as an animator. I want the writers to get a fair deal. Corporations employing these writers have money.... they just don't want to pay people properly.

@JB-ti7bl

40w↑1

"properly" is not a thing in economics.

@anthea6669

32w↑1

*affecting

@tommasobasili5078

39w↑11

Loved this. Thank you for clarifying what’s happening.

@GranTyrant

38w↑166

The biggest problem for these writers and this 24 episode philosophy is that the audience seems to prefer shorter seasons, especially when streaming.

@Reque92

38w↑5

Don't know about that... It is hard actually for them to land more gigs

@SDKSeizO

38w↑23

It really depends on the show. If it is like a good book, I want as many episodes as possible. Meanwhile Netflix and Disney are allowing the alphabet warriors to produce garbage after garbage. The whole streaming fad needs to be reorganized, remove the woke warriors and start producing what the viewers want instead of writer's wet dreams. Making product that does not bomb can be a good start in negotiating residuals.

@rinmartell2678

38w↑6

Nope, ever since the golden age of TV big a listers who would only appear on the big screen are part of tv shows. Those actors don’t want to commit for more than 10 episodes. They used to shoot 1 or 2 movies a year and they were good. Also tv shows with 24 episodes have many filler episodes. The audience wants high quality story telling. I mean game of thorns, house of cards, breaking bad were ground baking because of the way they were telling stories. This was something totally new to the audience. And it is more fun for writers because they can go all out. Also before Streaming you would have more case of the week tv shows, which are super easy to follow. Big complex stories don’t need 24 episodes.

@MrMark1

38w↑11

Much prefer quality over quantity. Many streaming shows go over 1 hour an episode sometimes. Look at stranger things 4, the 9 episodes were over 13 hours long.

@Supherodude

37w↑7

I agree. The 24 episode seasons don’t work well for streaming shows because of they way they are structured. Most of the shows on streaming are basically long movies that have been divided into several chapters whereas with network tv you got a lot of filler and self contained episodes.

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@sahitanand

46w↑3K

That last line is the most powerful statement I've heard so far. "I think we want to make sure that, art isn't coming from only voices who can afford to do this job"

@Defort-jd8xe

45w

For every writer on strike there are 9 more that will take any job. Its just the media that is making a huge deal out of it, because they have nothing else to talk about.

@sherila4834

45w↑80

This is a big problem in the theater world, too.

@PrincessOfTheYew

44w↑6

YESSSS

@astroch

44w↑10

Luckily, AI is coming

@marantz1

44w↑22

Music has been like that for decades

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@DoingStuffAF

38w↑101

I love explanatory journalism ❤ kudos to the Vox team!

@Apple2-ux8uo

37w

Vox is now owned by Comcast too.

@asankajayaweera7212

45w↑7

This is very relatable to me. I was always asked to do video scripts for very low price. I do understand these writers' pain.

@queenofthesalt5199

43w↑3

While I have 0 experience as a show writer- from what this talks about, it sounds very much different from what I do for a living- there are a few things about writers BEING ON SET that should be crucial. As previously mentioned, the actor is trying to conjure up the IDEA of what a character is in the head of the writer. They have their own agency, but the writer absolutely helps with that. If the actor doesn’t know what to do, it sounds like they go to the writers for help on that, which is crucial. In long-form story, one thing you go through is redrafting- when the entire story is written out, for the first time, you go back through, effectively rewriting the book, and refine the story down to its crucial points. You cut what isn’t necessary, you add what makes things hit harder later, and you make it all cohesive. This sounds similar to what a show writer does during production, and I just want to say that if doing that refinement is anywhere near similar to what a writer on set is doing, then not hiring them during those weeks, as the FOREMOST EXPERTS ON THE STORY BEING TOLD, is moronic at the very best.

@rinowx5

40w↑7

This is honestly just a great time for all American workers to fight back against greed and the class war

@loversonly

39w

Literally, this thing they’re describing exists in every single industry but writers are obviously the only group willing to fight back

@1029blue

38w↑2

I've been a fan of The X-Files since the '90s, and I'm so grateful for the show's writers. When you saw a name like Frank Spotnitz or Vince Gilligan in the credits, you knew it was going to be a good one. I don't know if writers are still recognized as much with these new TV show formats. Breaks between the (long) seasons were torture but built up excitement for what was to come next. I'm sure being able to binge everything right away takes away from the excitement of desperately waiting for the next season and makes people less emotionally involved with a show.

@redflamelcd

46w↑5.7K

Studios and streaming platforms are nothing without the writers. Pay them fairly.

@randell9667

46w↑152

To be honest, I'd care more if they were putting out quality writing before they went on strike. But the writing that go into most series and movies these days(10-15 years or more) has been excremental, and that's putting it mildly.

@LuanSalama

46w↑193

@@randell9667 What you are saying is that you would do a great job at something while being paid much less than you deserve. And this isn't something that is new now. Before streaming there were horrendous writing as well as great ones, the same way it is today. I don't think your personal experience is enough to make a good point in this case.

@TheShapingSickness

46w↑93

@@randell9667I disagree completely.

There are way more shows being made now and so many stand out, the content has evolved a lot in maturity and content and creativity and effects, etc.

Saying old shows were better quality makes no sense at all.

@CJ-dy8lb

46w↑48

Thry ARE paid fairly! The minimum salary for a writer is 125k and they only work 26 weeks per year!

@seankelly4988

46w↑38

@@randell9667 The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire, Succession, Better Call Saul, Utopia, Ozark, Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire, Fleabag, Barry are just some of the series that have come out in the past 10-15 years. Excremental? Really?

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@JessSwnd

45w↑3

Thank you for this. Very informative. Much respect to writers.

@shane1279

38w↑2

I hope y'all get everything you want and need. and I hope to join you in a writers room one day as an aspiring television writer myself

@nottodayisay

36w

Fantastic editing! Great video 👏🏼👏🏼

@curtis2299

45w↑11

I always felt that writers got short changed.
When I found out years ago that blockbuster billion dollar movies paid the writer 100 k (because they were new)
I was like “WHAT? HOW?
THE GUY THAT ACTUALLY WROTE THE THING GOT PENNIES?”
I didn’t get it.
Then I moved to Hollywood and it all came into focus.
Everybody craps on the person under them.

@ipekkomurcu

41w↑1

This explains a lot, thank you for this video. I hope things can change in a positive way soon.

@Aisenheim

46w↑1.1K

Strikes are the way to show that CEOs don't create your Entertainment

@TheCabledawg1

46w↑6

Writers make plenty of money. You never see bricklayers go on strike. Writers wine too much about making over 100K a year.

@gaswe9236

46w↑76

@@TheCabledawg1 did you watch the video? People can't send their children to school.

@radhikapatil1986

46w↑50

@@TheCabledawg1 someone needs to learn about unions

@jessmelgar219

46w↑11

$100,000 in 2000 when adjusted for inflation is the equivalent of ~$175,000 today. The 6-figure income talking point needs to stop

@jessmelgar219

46w↑25

In the inverse $100,000 today is the equivalent of of ~$57,000 in 2000. Still good money, but not enough to cover cost of living in areas that house these jobs. This is why remote work is such a push as well. People are trying to stretch incomes that are not even remotely keeping up with inflation

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@JamesWayabilatv

45w↑21

I want to truly appreciate the great work these writers are doing,may they get the pay they deserve

@MsFruittwist

40w↑1

shouldn't we as consumers pay more too? I feel like something is missing in this discussion: the ridiculously cheap costs of watching a billion movies and series whereas I used to pay good money for just one dvd... this is why the studios don't grow anymore. The amount of subscribers has reached the limit. OR we just start to pay more and accept advertisement.

@JB-ti7bl

40w

"deserve" is not a word in economics. Social Science is down the hall to the left.

@heyguyslolGAMING

39w↑5

Ive often found it disgusting how much actors would make over writers and while I'm no expert on the film industry economics it's a no brainer that writers are very much under appreciated and under paid. Without them we have nothing.

@jae6506

40w↑6

The writers and actors need to get what they’re entitled to. This is a clear injustice! How can the same studios who claim to not have enough money to pay the backbone of their industry then turn around and tell their shareholders that they’re raking in record-breaking profits. Both can’t be true…

@Grayson4795

45w↑1

This was so interesting and very informative thank you👏🏻👏🏻

@originstory-earth

38w

Thank you so much for this episode

@Wanderlauch

46w↑4.1K

Good on them for striking.
A lot of professions should go on strike, but can't.

@xabrias

46w↑62

Doctors probably should strike too

@Zak.Sparrow

46w

For the rest of us it's called job abandonment. Unions are obsolete institutions from a bygone era of inefficient markets. They should get back to work before someone or something steals their job

@g_y.rtz420

46w↑156

Yea thats what im thinking, theres always a writers strike but ive never heard of one for animators, vfx artists, game devs, yet their situations are usually MUCH WORSE. Not saying writers should be content, rather, the entertainment industry is rotten to the core. Source: im a former animator

@carolitoffana

46w↑89

Every job should have stability, It baffles me that 2023 we still have to fight for basic human rights, like afford housing and eating 🙃

@andrewfarrell6120

46w↑6

One Big Union!

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@tobiotusemade9052

45w↑11

Wow... learned a lot from this, I agree that writers should be paid fairly. Thank you vox.

@sherylcrowe3255

43w

Thank you for a clearer understanding of the issues.

@josegabrielortizrojas3669

39w

THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING IT!

@JMarylin88

38w

That's very interesting video. I now understand much better their situation and I definitely stand by it.

@mateoneedham6807

40w

Thanks for your work, Vox. I appreciate your in-depth reporting.

@nathantilly3539

46w↑3.6K

Strikes are vital for workers rights, so workers can be heard and as a blunt reminder to management that sometimes the lowest paid people are the most important.

@wallacerigby4393

46w↑45

They make 6 figures on the low end. They used to make high 6 figures with 22 shows. This isn’t the steel worker or labourer working in a restaurant.

@scottmcfarlane7524

46w↑9

or just have a fair wage in the US lol

@lonestarr1490

46w↑43

@@wallacerigby4393 Please provide evidence to back up your claims. Thank you.

@Obez45

46w↑2

It will fuel more investment into AI

@extonjonas6820

46w↑38

@@wallacerigby4393 Even if what you are saying was true, people should be paid for the work they do. That money is still being made but instead of it being divided between all of the parties who helped make it, it is being excluded from some people who play an important part in making them that money

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@atakkuuuuu

41w↑7

Sounds exactly like the animation industry and what animators have to go through. Makes me wonder why animators dont get paid residuals either? They act out the characters but on paper/digital media.

@ianhomerpura8937

41w

They're the next ones to go on strike. It will only be a matter of time.

@pepperpattynaise

44w

This is besides the point, but its amazing that this has spanish audio too! Now I can share this video with so many people that dont speak English, this is awesome! Thank you so much!

@ishaltimelapse6190

39w

I didn't understand in the beginning but now i do, and we are with you

@arichison

39w↑2

Eye opening. Wow! There would be no great shows without great writing. Like Frasier, West Wing, Beef, etc.

@NymeriaDT

39w

Excellent video. Learned alot.

@alimuh007

46w↑1.7K

"Art isn't coming from only voices that can afford to do this job." This quote had a big impact on me. Hopefully, this gets figured out, and these writers find a situation that is a better fit for the talent and effort that they bring to the production.

@buckbuckleyson2259

46w↑1

Who would write at a loss 🤣

@Antoinetheman

46w↑24

@@buckbuckleyson2259 wealthy kids who want to work their way up the cultural ladder.

@buckbuckleyson2259

46w

@@Antoinetheman classic

@anthonypareigis6188

45w↑1

Bro, the average income for a writer is between 80-150k. Theyre making good money.

@alimuh007

45w↑6

@@anthonypareigis6188 says who?

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@javianjohnson8746

45w↑1

Aha! So this 2:45 - 3:01 explains why Netflix series are usually between 8 - 12 episodes nowadays! All about the commercial (or lack thereof). Thank you for this explanation

@kyhung2070

44w↑4

I would have liked to have people from productions and producers give their take. Because I have been working with smaller projects where of course the writing is still at the bottom of the things we would spent on, because nowadays good story only take 20% of what keeps the viewers' attention especially the attention span is getting shorter and shorter, there is editing, acting, and the actual productions. While everything gets paid less than TV times, the barrier to entry is MUCH MUCH lower, so unless you want to limit newer writers from having shows then yeah raise the price and produce less. It's a double edge knife, only more experienced writers understand their value and can stand up to it but for newer talents more opportunity is better in my opinion.

@marcymarc1981

13w

Fascinating, thank you.

@thembelandesi4741

40w

This was well explained, thx!

@Garland67

41w

Great video and very informative.

@EvilChicken25

46w↑2K

I was already on the “give the writers guild everything they are demanding” camp, but after watching this I’m thinking whatever they are demanding is just the BEGINNING of what needs to happen. Wow

@roseband6028

46w↑83

This is the same in the animation industry too. Plus a ton of the animation jobs aren't done by studios in the animators guild (under iatse). Only two of the nyc studios are under the guild (titmouse and late night cartoons and they only unionized last year/6 months ago) and a lot of major broadcast companies will subcontract to non-union studios.

It's why I moved from animation to apparel graphics production, and my non-union apparel contract is better than my friends' union animation jobs are. (not a knock on the unions, it's how bad the animation industry is that those are considered the "good" contracts).

@newflower8974

39w

@@timetobenotdo😮

@covfefe1787

39w↑3

who cares these a rich people complaining about changing times. these are no different to the people whining in 1970s for losing manufacturing jobs. maybe these people should have chosen fields that actually make you money.

@-bugbite

39w↑8

@@covfefe1787why are you calling them rich while also saying they should of chose a job that makes money

@sulaimanhusainful

38w↑2

I understand that their situations are difficult, today. I've been in that similar situations, too, many years ago. Television production business is always tough since long time ago. That's why I changed my career in book publishing industry. The challenges are not as hard as in the TV show business. I hope all problems are solved and many people are happy. Insya Allah!

@justinheister7949

39w↑3

@Vox thanks for the clarification. If I’m being honest I hate commercials and love streaming. There is no question these huge companies need to be checked. There is no Hollywood without the writers and actors. How do we help? Because without us there is no Hollywood either.

@pookahdragon5850

33w

I agree. I hated paying for cable AND having to watch commercials.

@hach2023

38w

Good explanation.

@TranNguyen9

45w

This was very educational. Thank you!

@danielda5499

41w

Vamos, que antes era una mina de oro y ahora es un trabajo más.

@posthocprior

46w↑3.2K

What was missing: the difference in mean salary at a network show versus the mean salary at a streaming show.

@Xob_Driesestig

46w↑169

I tried googling it but couldn't find anything. My guess is that even if the salary is nominally higher, the increase in cost of living (especially in places where shows are made) will mean that the purchasing power of writers is lower.
One thing they might want to add to their strike agenda is a Land Value Tax, to make the rent go down.

@d0cf0x4

46w↑53

@@Xob_Driesestig I think it depends. Many shows are filmed in locations other than New York and LA now. Atlanta for instance. COL is high and a barrier, but it's not something exclusively experienced by writers.

@dontknowdocare

46w↑210

I don't think they mention it because writers make a hellavu lot more money than minimum wage or your average Joe. And if people heard the numbers they'd be less willing to emphasise with the writers which is the goal of this story.

@lonestarr1490

46w↑44

@@dontknowdocare It's good that you don't think that. Nobody should think something like that as long as there's no evidence provided to back it up.

@colecraggs8147

46w↑12

@@lonestarr1490 What? Talk to literally every person who has had a theory ever.

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@shockingheaven

40w↑11

Seeing this, as well as that interview with former cast members of Orange Is The New Black is wild. It's well known by now that writers in Hollywood really struggle, but I never thought the actors that appeared in one of the most important shows of the decade had to keep their part time jobs to make ends meet. All for greed.

@reginayfavors

39w

This is really educational. Thank you.

@ghanyathomas9538

41w↑6

“While women and BIPOC writers have made significant hiring progress over the last decade, men, and white men in particular, remain predominant in both the higher levels of TV employment and in features.” Source: WG Equity Report 2022

@allivatehope2855

40w↑1

Stay strong and continue your fight. Fight for your rights and your future. ❤️

@FairBeautyEssentials

25w↑3

The one thing that is constant in life is change. What is wrong with the writers adapting to changing with the way the world (of streaming) is moving in? If we are now streaming, how can the writers get together, put their thinking caps on, and adapt to this new change with their skills put towards for streaming?

@thedavidakoh

46w↑1.7K

These studios have to stop taking writers for granted. You have nothing to direct, perform, produce, market, edit, or profit from without writers. Hoping the storytellers win.

@TheCabledawg1

46w↑25

Writers make plenty of money. You never see bricklayers go on strike. Writers wine too much about making over 100K a year.

@iamwhatyouseeinyournightma708

46w↑99

@@TheCabledawg1 probably because brick layers can’t afford to go on strike. if writers never striked like they are now, they might become like bricklayers in the future due to lack of income.

bricklayers should absolutely strike, however they cant even afford it, living paycheck to paycheck

@bloodwargaming3662

46w

@@TheCabledawg1 brain dead comment, if tommorow you slash the average doctors pay by half the net wage after the slash is still going to be a lot of money but is it justified to cut the wage ? NO . Writters making 100k make the actors tens of millions essentially writing down all those dialogues and scenes and they make the film company billions some times if not 100 + million

@TheRockerX

46w↑79

@@TheCabledawg1 you're absolutely delusional if you think the majority of writers are making anything close to that figure

(while also being forced to live in two of the most expensive cities on the planet)

@KaritKtana

46w↑1

✊🔥🔥🔥

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@shoujofanatic

44w↑1

It sounds like a new platform has to be created that all the writers go to work for in order to have their needs met. When that platform succeeds, the other companies will take notice and will have to improve in order to compete.

@DEFIRYAN

39w↑1

I love how profits and pay increase for the top and the bottom is squeezed dry no matter what industry you go to as years go by.

@iceman18211

39w↑33

I hope the strike never ends. No more actors or writers, no more silly movies or TV shows. I prefer this.

@tiawilliams5690

39w↑10

No one's forcing you to watch TV or movies. Your distaste for the medium doesn't mean that people should starve.

@iceman18211

39w↑4

@@tiawilliams5690 No one is going to starve there are plenty of other jobs you can get, especially with unemployment in the US at a 60 year low. Heck even great writing is in demand for social media, marketing and sales roles. I'm just annoyed at the decreasing quality and repetitive content of mainstream movies and tv. Don't be melodramatic.

@CarlosJuarez-eb5gx

39w↑2

@@iceman18211I agree with you 100%.

@iceman18211

39w↑1

@@CarlosJuarez-eb5gx I appreciate it :)

@aaindtharivalan8720

34w

Heartbreaking💔

@vinimatheus7634

38w↑1

i find this sad because i write and eventually i want to write movies and tv shows but seeing all this happen it makes me want to cry and go a different direction with my life

@Halo4beatsB02

36w↑2

lol

@mariaboylan3083

46w↑1K

Writers should not be the bottom of the ladder. Without their thoughts, creativity and words THERE IS NO SHOW! Put the writers in the place they belong and pay for for what they are, the CREATORS.

@matthewlivingston3168

44w↑9

IATSE members, the actual crew people are at the bottom of the pay scale and do far more manual labor than the writers. A gaffer will make far less than a staff writer.

@benwatterson851

41w↑27

@@nelcomargaming6612that is almost entirely the producers problem not the writers

@patriciorodriguez1020

41w↑6

They are not… production assistants are and they get treated like 💩

@westernartifact4163

41w↑2

The they need to perform better storylines to justify the better pay.

@eyeana_1529

40w↑2

It is what it is. There's always A+ people working and under some C- talentless people.

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@user-mj2lm5fh1j

45w↑2

The solution is all writers should come together build an agency that offers stories to these companies. A group of writers working on any story will be able to charge the amount they are looking for, and studio can send their requirements and get into contract if needed.

@umbrellawaifu

35w

That’s what a union is

@user-mj2lm5fh1j

35w

@@umbrellawaifu Nope.

@PM-zw9xz

41w

Los apoyamos en todo el mundo!
Su lucha tendrá repercusiones en el futuro laboral a nivel global.
Buena suerte! La justicia está de su parte!

@det4ever94

34w↑3

I seem like the Movie industry is going through what the Music industry when through 20 years ago with streaming. Now music artists have to tour just to make a living because you don't make it out of records sales anymore.

@phoebeel

45w↑1

I hope they can achieve what they want/need to live a nice life. We all need stories, its in our human genes to love stories. Those who tell them heal our souls and help us find comfort in another persons journey or words.
We need to pay these people accordingly

@5050songs

42w↑2

This sounds a lot like the music industry. I get this is a sea change for tv writers, but it’s old news for songwriters and plenty of other media creators. This is a natural trajectory of our entire economy. It’s also fair to acknowledge that most tv shows are not “specifically too good”. Perhaps this is a fair market response to the quality of their output?

@zongmuas

46w↑381

I love movies and TV Shows and that's why I decided to go into the creative industry. For a period of time, I wanted to break into "Hollywood". Go the traditional route. I worked on a few film/tv/commercial sets at lower-level positions and got to see what the reality of "Hollywood" was. It broke my heart to see how people were treated. I understand that I was in a lower-level position but I think basic human decency is not a lot to ask for. After my last set, back in 2021, I decided to find another path that wasn't the "traditional" filmmaking path. I never wanted fame or wealth, I just wanted to make a living and be happy doing the thing that I love. This strike is long overdue because these writers deserve better.

@koljatomisch9428

46w↑13

so what do you do then, what alternative path have you found for you? :)

@matthewk4912

45w

@@koljatomisch9428 I would also like to know

@LutraLovegood

45w

You shouldn't have to ask for basic human decency in the first place.

@nathanaelidundun

34w

This is such a good video

@sweetjanejonez

37w

This has been really informative. I love a good show, movie and it never crossed my mind that they werent being paid fairly. They should! There would be no shows wothout them! How is this even a debate? Pay these people for their talents! Who are the top dogs? Why are they silent and hidden? Put them on blast.

@beyzabulut7119

37w

Thank you a lot, I understand way better than

@stevel7782

30w

Solidarity Forever! ✊🏼

@thaexception3406

39w

Very informative regarding strike or not.

@lzmunch

46w↑813

I work in animation and if you have the privilege to work in a union job at a large company, the company will usually try to find a spot on a new show when your contract ends, rather than you having to search around every several months. It seems like writers could benefit from a similar thing

@Paytonwh

45w↑23

Oh wow didn't know that existed, I think thats a wonderful idea! Hopefully something like that is created but I can see the industry resisting it because a writer has so much control over the actual story that execs are more likely to gatekeep writing positions to ensure the writers will create what they want since its their money. People really want control in the industry and will go to great lengths to maintain it.

@Burning0NIc3

45w↑1

Ooooo i love that.

@r3drift

44w↑13

Writing is very different from animating brother. Animation is art but animation has become less about individual output but moreso about technicality and computers whereas writing still depends solely on what your brain comes up with. Yes they are both collaborative but writing and animation are not even close to being the same.

@nobodyspecial4702

44w

You mean, like if they were members of a guild? Something like that?

@BlueAo99

42w↑1

@@r3drift Do you know animation works are submitted to the same writing process, right?

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@SingKiaMuze

45w↑1

Standing with the writers. Hold the line.

@Hollowdude15

43w↑1

I feel like the writer strike is gonna win this one and nice video man :]

@LucasPenido

33w↑1

@marcial.1636

39w

I miss that shows used to be 22 episodes. Having waiting week to week watching show months on end seems unheard of now.

@dayofthelords8371

39w

Solidarity with workers always

@harin1892

46w↑626

I was in Visual Effects ( VFX ) industry before, similar situation there too. I used to work 80-90 hours a week in a LA studio, after hiring full time they refused to sponsor visa. Artists had gone on strike ( around the time Life of Pi got Oscars ) and nothing changed. Thankfully i had computer engineering degree as fall back and been working as software engineer since. I miss working in the movies, but without stability and pay I cant survive in the US.

@hemslonnigum

46w↑49

I worked as a composer in LA during the ‘08 recession. No one I knew could find work. Like you, I went into software engineering just to stay alive!

@harin1892

45w↑14

@@hemslonnigum I’m glad we had something to fall back to. Did you think about going back at some point ?

@hemslonnigum

45w↑32

@@harin1892 Sometimes I wonder what could have become of my filmscoring career if I had suffered through it, but it wasn't until I left the film industry that I sensed my life really began to flourish. In my experience working in entertainment takes a needlessly brutal toll on one's mental health. I empathize with my friends still in it who feel trapped because they've been in it so long they feel it's too late to start over in something else.

@alexesjohnson4229

45w↑19

This makes me think Americans need to have each others backs more bc I would give up TV if the people making it aren’t making enough money to live.

@alexesjohnson4229

45w↑2

I’m so sorry you had to go through this

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@joseabraham777

35w

Very interesting, this must change for a model where actores, writers and clients win

@ShaneHarderPhoto

39w↑1

Great explanation. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the writers though. This is the same problem in a lot of the business world. The only thing constant is change, as a business owner if you can’t adapt to that change then you go out of business. The streaming platforms are trying to adapt to this changing world. It doesn’t sound like they’re being paid any less for their work, instead that there’s less work per show. So it sounds like the writers are mostly complaining that they have to go find more jobs. To me this is not the studios problem. Yes it’s harder but if you can’t adapt to the changing world, you only have a few options. Change the world or change industries. Changing industries is a lot easier.
It honestly sounds like they need a leader who has some money and entrepreneur skills. Someone who can grab some good writers, actors, directors…etc who are in a similar position, and go rewrite the rule book. Come up with your own pay structure together and create something amazing that the creators have ownership in. If the show is good enough it will be picked up and because you had a part in rewriting the rules in your favor, you’ll be paid more fairly. Word will get out among talent and crew and everyone will want to work on the next one, and before you know it you have the studio all the best people want to work for.

@kirapastirik7483

38w↑1

I'm so very disappointed that streaming services have removed some shows and movies and I wish they were back or re added it next year, let's hope. 😞🤞

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