Liar
O.D.D Lyrics

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这是个瞎掰的时代
女大生兼差作外卖
诈骗专找老太太
不加防腐剂东西不会坏
学演戏请看世足赛
学唬烂请转购物台
乡土剧当科幻片拍
广告夸大强迫你买

女孩们垫了两颗假奶
玩咖都强调自己多宅
大人都说不在乎钱财
大家骑马在找着备胎
听说2012世界末日准备去投胎
外星人不存在尼斯湖有水怪
听说正妹嫁入豪门全部都为了真爱
台商没有二奶当屁说自己帅
大家都在掰整个世界超级掰
你被掰我被掰有多掰超级掰
我们都在掰男女老少超级掰
你在掰我在掰有多掰超级掰
老师说念书才有未来
总统说经济会好起来
名嘴说拎北就是明牌
名模说整形我才不爱
乡民说硬盘没存自拍
小偷说下次一定会改
女生说从来都不耍赖
男生说尬过的妹破百
开房间还说很清白
出事了就换部长下台
有钱人用仿的名牌
没钱的出门装成小开
童话用来哄哄小孩
节目作假叫作常态
偶像包袱完美姿态
炒个绯闻拜托狗仔
大家都在掰整个世界超级掰
你被掰我被掰有多掰超级掰
我们都在掰男女老少超级掰
你在掰我在掰有多掰超级掰
听说2012世界末日准备去投胎
外星人不存在尼斯湖有水怪
听说正妹嫁入豪门全部都为了真爱
台商没有二奶当屁说自己帅
大家都在掰整个世界超级掰
你被掰我被掰有多掰超级掰
我们都在掰男女老少超级掰
你在掰我在掰有多掰超级掰
大家都在掰整个世界超级掰
你被掰我被掰有多掰超级掰

我们都在掰男女老少超级掰
你在掰我在掰有多掰超级掰

Overall Meaning

The lyrics of O.D.D’s song “Liar” highlight the fact that society is filled with hypocrisy and deception. The song takes a satirical approach in highlighting the various aspects of society where people pretend to be something they are not just for validation and acceptance. The lyrics cover a range of topics from fake news, fraud, plastic surgery, and fake brands to relationships where people keep backup partners and lie about their real intentions.

The song also highlights the pressure from society to conform and contort to certain images of beauty, wealth, and success. The phrase “我们都在掰” (we are all lying) is repeated in the song to emphasize that everyone is caught up in the lie, and the world is filled with lies. Overall, the song serves as a social commentary on the world we live in, and how easy it is to become a part of its illusions.

Line by Line Meaning

这是个瞎掰的时代
This is an era where everyone is lying and making things up

女大生兼差作外卖
Female college students have to work as delivery drivers to make ends meet

诈骗专找老太太
Fraudsters specifically target elderly women

不加防腐剂东西不会坏
Things won't spoil if they don't have preservatives added to them

学演戏请看世足赛
To learn acting, watch the World Cup

学唬烂请转购物台
To learn how to deceive people, watch shopping channels

乡土剧当科幻片拍
Rural TV dramas are being made into science fiction films

广告夸大强迫你买
Exaggerated advertisements push you to buy things

女孩们垫了两颗假奶
Girls are getting two fake breasts implanted

玩咖都强调自己多宅
Trendsetters emphasize that they are homebodies

大人都说不在乎钱财
Adults all say they don't care about money

大家骑马在找着备胎
Everyone is looking for a backup lover while in a relationship

听说2012世界末日准备去投胎
I heard that people were preparing to be reincarnated for the 2012 apocalypse

外星人不存在尼斯湖有水怪
Aliens don't exist, but Nessie monster in Loch Ness does

听说正妹嫁入豪门全部都为了真爱
I heard that beautiful girls only marry into wealthy families for true love

台商没有二奶当屁说自己帅
Taiwanese businessmen claim to have no mistresses, but it's as fake as saying their fart is pretty

老师说念书才有未来
Teachers say that studying will lead to a better future

总统说经济会好起来
Presidents say that the economy will improve

名嘴说拎北就是明牌
Celebrities say that 'Leng Ba' is a genuine brand

名模说整形我才不爱
Top models say that they don't like getting plastic surgery

乡民说硬盘没存自拍
Rural people say that they don't have any intimate pictures on their hard drives

小偷说下次一定会改
Thieves say that they will turn a new leaf after getting caught

女生说从来都不耍赖
Girls say that they never lie or cheat

男生说尬过的妹破百
Guys brag about how many girls they've successfully picked up

开房间还说很清白
People who book hotel rooms for trysts pretend that they are innocent

出事了就换部长下台
Government officials get replaced when something goes wrong

有钱人用仿的名牌
Wealthy people wear fake brand-name products

没钱的出门装成小开
People who don't have money dress up like rich kids

童话用来哄哄小孩
Fairy tales are used to trick children

节目作假叫作常态
Fake TV shows are considered normal

偶像包袱完美姿态
Idols maintain a perfect image

炒个绯闻拜托狗仔
Creating scandalous rumors hoping that paparazzi will pick it up

大家都在掰整个世界超级掰
Everyone is lying and exaggerating in this messed up world

你被掰我被掰有多掰超级掰
You're lying, I'm lying, and it's extremely messed up

我们都在掰男女老少超级掰
We're all lying, regardless of gender, age, or social status

你在掰我在掰有多掰超级掰
You're lying, I'm lying, and it's extremely messed up

Lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group
Written by: JIAN JUN HONG, WEI KAI CUI

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Comments from YouTube:

@jubilee

2y↑107

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@Johan590

2y↑10

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@dea9457

2y↑9

8 likes
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@joshgranger3378

1y↑48

have you heard a definition of queerness?

@loopeterno

1y↑20

Have you heard about queer?

@mikitea68

1y↑15

Re do this episode and use an actual straight person. Make them actually lie and not have to explain their identity and sexualities as not queer. Whether or not he identifies as straight there are those who feel that the representation is considered queer. Anything that's not heterosexual and monogamous (with the exception of polygamy as that can lead to abuse) is queer but not necessarily a part of the LGBTQIA+ community. Queer or strange is by definition something that isn't the norm. Queer in regards to people and sexualities as well as gender identity can be any identity that's not monogamous and heterosexual.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

@elmoismybf

2y↑4.8K

Travis: "That is no way to defend yourself. List every gay bar you know?"
Also Travis: Shows his tattoos to prove he is gay

@prince_nox

1y↑241

exactly, I can list off 12 straight girls I know with Winnie the Pooh and Totoro tattoos, you're not special hun

@zero-zb1mm

1y↑204

he was so hypocritical and annoying

@ediblexxslay444

1y↑14

FRR

@gracem6709

he's annoying af

@prince_nox

1y↑19

@And so it begins does that even matter?? Regardless of gender a tattoo does not signify your queerness : /

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@sadielewis376

2y↑4.1K

Travis literally asked how gay everyone was, and then gave Deven a hard time just because they were also interested in women

@janettechampion4554

1y↑49

Exactly

@skytakami101

1y↑152

Yeah that irked me

@yoongiluvr93

1y↑249

Travis was just snappy in general it was a bit irritating

@joshregitz

1y↑2

@@andsoitbegins_ wow yeah you got us all figured out. We're snappy and we love shopping yas kween werk. ....

@est6420

1y↑15

hate travis sm

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@brainjuice34

2y↑5.1K

i knew this was gonna be bad when i heard “golden gay”.. the biphobia and the weird comments about trans people.. this was awful

@aarohipahurkar5041

2y↑146

LITERALLY LIKE WTF IS THAT

@princeastrid1200

2y↑316

“i dont date cis men” um…

@arthur6191

2y↑235

agree 100%, i commented about the comment someone made ab cis men, they were trying to be woke but separated trans men from cis men and infantilised us whilst doing so

@fluffy_

2y↑4

Frr!

@reyphobic

2y↑43

@@princeastrid1200 ?? so? if she doesn't date cis men that's her thing and i agree. what's pissing you off huh

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@limitless4375

2y↑837

"Non-binary doesnt necessarily make you queer"... I am speechless. Queer means you aren't cis-het.

@struthythestruthiomimus8832

37w↑43

i know idk how they thought that was okay to say

@leopardsun

33w↑21

Queer doesn't have a rigid definition. It's a term people use to describe themselves, not one that you get to push onto others.

@ellieahearn4055

32w↑32

@@leopardsunI think of it that it depends if you identify with the term. But when the person says “non-binary doesn’t inherently mean queer” that hits different than a non-binary person themselves saying they don’t identify with the word.

@andi8852

20w↑2

literally omfg

@cyberzk.

12w

stfu don’t say cis

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@TheNightmareKidZzz

2y↑7.2K

Travis is one of those gays that give our community a bad name. Snippy, rude, abrasive and judgmental. He seems like a mean girl 100%.

@user-xd3sx3nc6z

2y↑52

He's not a mean girl. People ignore him cuz he's a 3. No one cares if he's rude.

@sophiasuh9644

2y↑219

Omg he's the type to bully someone

@ItzMalick

2y↑1

Yo fam I make a variety of short entertaining reactions, and a variety of other content on YouTube as well, I’m still working on quality, but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy!💛💛💛

@Ayveh

2y↑172

You forgot "Insecure" 100% insecure, like no need to snap on someone JUST because you feel so insecure around them. He must have felt like a potato sack and it shows by how rude they acted to that person and only that person.

@Random-sk6hm

2y↑52

literally he makes me not even wanna be part of the community

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@mylescreed6512

2y↑2.4K

How rude and invalidating of Travis do immediately ask “Which one do you like more?” Isn’t that like textbook biphohia?

@ItzMalick

2y↑1

Yo Fam I make a variety of short entertaining reactions, and a variety of other content on YouTube As well, I’m still working on quality, but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy!💛💛💛

@sola_a

2y↑56

Is it? I'm bi and I think it's a fair question. Some don't have a preference but otherd do.

@MMOfreakOUT1

2y↑23

@@sola_a thank you.. I really didn't understand how that was rude either. Many do have a preference. It's like with straight people. Just because you're a straight male don't mean you can't have a preference in girls either.

@coopergates9680

2y↑88

@@sola_a Normally it's an honest and respectful question but the investigation in this video has a bias that queer =\\= straight, so they were trying to gauge 'suspicion' by how much someone leaned toward homosexuality.

@karahoglund

2y↑7

@@sola_a idk i think a preference is weird. I like a person based on who i meet. not by gender. so to say one or the other is really weird. it's like having a preference of race. there are so many people in whatever "category" is mentioned, it's unfair to really put those boxes up

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@casey5055

2y↑3.8K

I’m so glad the comments are with me on this video being extremely invalidating. As a bisexual non-binary person I’m not only extremely upset about the biphobia but also the fact that people think non-binary people aren’t queer

@casey5055

2y↑328

And the transphobia coming from the bi people… just yikes all around

@thecommenter9267

2y↑78

What about the quadriphobia coming from non-trinary dilapidated octiphilus people?

@shoutmon1337

1y↑186

@@thecommenter9267 That's a funny comment, commentor. You understand and engage with discource. Haha yes.

@kitkat8208

1y↑73

@@thecommenter9267 i thought you were being serious with a ton of terms i didnt know LMAO

@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072

1y↑3

@@casey5055 transphobia? What are you talking about?
I can see how NB might not be “quεεr” per se. But in this “game” they were kinda cheating

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@haydnsayshi

2y↑1.7K

I’m nonbinary and for that reason I identify as queer. The term “queer” includes everything under the trans umbrella, including nonbinary. It’s disheartening that the person who’s “not queer” is who I relate to the most. I feel invalidated. Trans and enby people built the queer community, don’t kick them out.

@coopergates9680

2y↑122

This video struck me as a bad stereotype that straight and queer are mutually exclusive. "Straight" can also lose meaning for enby people if there isn't really an 'opposite' gender

@vintereventyr_

2y↑52

This! I’m not nonbinary, i am however a trans demi guy(with a touch if kingender) and my gender is LITTERALY the most queer part of my identity. I am panromantic and asexual too… and gender nonconforming, but my gender is without doubt the thing i feel is most queer. I joke that i’m the embodiment of queer.

@AubreyFaye

1y↑10

@@vintereventyr_ Hi, genuine question. What is Kingender?

@nicokelly6453

1y↑19

Yes, I've been using "queer" to describe my gender and sexuality for years. Genderqueer has been a word in the LGBTQ+ community since at least 1995!

@sassberrysnap

@@coopergates9680 This

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@saff1257

2y↑8.7K

travis gave me the ick with that ‘what do you prefer’ question. as a bi person it’s so annoying because it’s like they’re trying to see how ‘out there’ you are, to see if they believe in your queerness, if you’re gay enough etc and making a judgement based off that. they also always expect me (a bi woman) to say i prefer men so they can discredit me but i MUCH prefer women. i hate the question so much

@Random-sk6hm

2y↑404

its classic biphobia

@manialord1699

2y↑270

To me its classic bigoted uncle and he is hiding under the term sassy but its actually called rude asf

@taylorelizabeth9018

2y↑258

i also hate that question. i'm also a bi woman and i prefer men, but that doesn't mean i don't like woman. i feel like in the online community there's always so big competition to see who's the "most gay" or "most oppressed" and it's so annoying and invalidating

@Death-999

2y↑87

Every bi person has experienced this. I remember talking about this when I was a youngling, that was decades ago and it's still happening.

I know people think it's an innocent question, but it's not.

@Death-999

2y↑13

@@taylorelizabeth9018 "or "most oppressed" and it's so annoying and invalidating"
That happened when victim hood became a form of currency. It's the same reason why people list their self diagnosed mental disorders in their profile and go around saying how depressed they are like it makes them more attractive.

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@scrungozeclown836

2y↑10.2K

"Are you an ally"
No to stereotype but like, someone who is in a polyam relationship with bisexual partners, and is they/them, you can safely guess they are an ally.

@AznYunHou

2y↑264

Well I know a lot of cis white men who are extremely racist and have Asian girlfriends. So I don't the partner they have necessarily means they are allies to their partner

@cmbsr4851

2y↑132

@@AznYunHou and I know a lot of asian people who don't like Black or Brown people too and act just as racist

@AznYunHou

2y↑88

@@cmbsr4851 ok but does that relate to the ally part for the community? If the black or brown person is dating a racist Asian, then that's awful and is similar to what I said, but if just saying it to insult Asians then I don't see why you think it's necessary

@cmbsr4851

2y↑19

@@AznYunHou that's like saying what you said was insult cis white men? Like how can you say something about about people then try and make someone else seem like theyre "making fun" . Racism isn't funny ?

@oheunice

2y↑1

i mean ik a bi girl who’s against trans people, she literally goes around saying it’s not “natural” and that she supports the LGBQ community 💀

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@alyssas4609

2y↑1.4K

Wow! This video managed to smash through every bad LGBTQ take in under 10 mins! That’s practically a record!

@Fenteous

1y↑14

Underrated comment honestly

@SimonBellaMondo

9w↑2

Nobody even mentions the fact that Kacie says, “I hate cis men” and then laughs about it. They literally hated on every sexuality in this episode.

@everybodywoo

1y↑138

"So I am in a poly relationship with 2 bi women."
Her: But are you an ally?
Me: 👁👄👁

@babiegat

26w↑6

My thoughts exactly 😭

@vos7619

2y↑11.6K

This episode was a mess: The Biphobia, Travis, what they're considering queerness, and what they aren't...like wow.

@sophiasuh9644

2y↑226

Literally😭

@feiti5879

2y↑664

FRRR the biphobia in this video is just rampant

@chicken6727

2y↑32

Biphobia?

@nataliefraioli7201

2y↑360

BRO THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT, I’m bi and the entire video I just felt uncomfy😵‍💫

@ramonsanders651

2y↑171

@@nataliefraioli7201 ong as a GENDERQUEER BISEXUAL this video triggered me several times lol

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@flowers4madi

2y↑4.6K

"just because theyre nonbinary doesnt mean theyre queer" ? define queer for me...

@user-pc3sf9tb9q

2y↑337

LMAO LITERALLY

@ivyannlitton

2y↑961

literally like they should have gotten a straight person, not a nonbinary polyamorous person. like even if you don't identify as "queer" that's not a clear line. you could be a lesbian and not identify as "queer"

@karl6647

2y↑9

Também tô tentando entender o que rolou Kkkkk

@thatonerazormain8223

2y↑6

@@ivyannlitton fr

@pancakes0886

2y↑74

i’ve always thought queer can be whatever you want it to be lmao idk.. thats what i identify as because i feel like its such an open label

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@payt00n

2y↑466

So much of this video ticked me off. Travis invalidating others, the biphobia and the mole being part of the LGBT anyway. As a gay person (bi in questioning) biphobia is a HUGE problem in our community and it's sad this amount of toxicity exists in our community.

@anisah8546

40w↑2

THIS!

@moonknightress5059

1y↑197

The blatant Bi - and Transphobia is just mind-blowing. I don't even want to think of how they would have treated an asexual person

@ast3ri4._.

36w↑10

As an aroace enby I'm scared toeven think about it

@silverofthesunbears

28w↑7

@@ast3ri4._.they’d probably be like “Oh you’re asexual? So like, you like no one? That must be pretty weird” and they are talking to an asexual alloromantic person 💀💀💀

@jcchao9

2y↑10.7K

Travis feels like the typical person who would put UNAPOLOGETICALLY QUEER in their instagram bio and literally doesn’t apologize for calling someone a horse girl

@FakYuhGoogel

2y↑79

What is a horse girl?

@ejuwera9110

2y↑31

What's a horse girl

@winnieoliver3530

2y↑210

it’s a girl that’s obsessed with horses. A.K.A me…

@jeremysmith9694

2y↑673

@@FakYuhGoogel it's basically derogatory term for girls who love horses. Typically a girl who wears jeans, a belt buckle, plaid shirt and long hair that looks like a horse tail. Just describing the stereotype. To call someone a horse girl to their face is pretty rude.

@sophielem59

2y↑58

@@jeremysmith9694 thank you for the explanation!

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@elienasr7290

2y↑8.6K

Travis gives Erin “That’s not vegan” vibes

@coffeewithapop

2y↑118

literally omg

@nysanayeem4106

2y↑208

Honestly, Travis wasn't as annoying as Erin

@juliasardipenha

2y↑31

Hahahah omg i miss that episode

@evothenew3333

2y↑106

@@nysanayeem4106 Yes, he was more annoying and rude.

@jinhub2175

2y↑79

THIS omg. He was so annoying I absolutely disliked that guy

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@caroleem1015

2y↑210

As a bi women, I HATE the “who do you perfer” question, like if I answer a certain way does it make my queerness more valid? Also why do I have to have a preference, can’t I just state my sexuality and you respect it?

@ShesquatchPiney

49w

VerilyBitchie has an excellent 8 minute video on the "bi-cycle" which should be required reading.

@crazydragy4233

46w↑1

I got whiplash listening. The blatant biphobia was so uncalled for

@stripedonyx

1y↑560

As an ace, I can't even imagine how invalidated I would be in that room

@xxxxx5797

being asexual does not make you gay

@_smartie_

1y↑78

Fellow Ace here.
Same. When I heard them say that nonbinary wasnt queer, my mouth fell open in shock. And the reveal made me so mad.

@charziebear333

1y↑11

maybe bc ace doesn't automatically equal queer lmfao

@pavgarbis888

ace people aren't automatically queer

@dazzly6109

50w↑46

@@charziebear333it does? what are you on about? Queer, these days, is a term for someone who’s LGBTQ+ (aka not straight and/or not cis)

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@Whitemenhavelittledicks

2y↑11.1K

I felt so bad for Deven. The way everyone, especially Travis, treated them, it must’ve felt so invalidating. You can clearly see they were uncomfortable the entire video.

@kierstynsaoirse

2y↑146

Yes :(

@thatcitrusfriend6234

2y↑400

Yeah, especially with all the comments calling them queer when they've explicitly stated that they're not 💀

@flynched1011

2y↑138

he? they were very clear that they were non-binary i thought.

@Whitemenhavelittledicks

2y↑162

@@flynched1011 Okay, I have dyslexia so some things slip my mind without noticing. It was a simple mistake. Thanks for the correction, tho.

@user-xd3sx3nc6z

2y↑144

It's jealousy. Completely obvious. Travis and Zach are hateful people.

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@EnzoDraws

2y↑8.2K

This episode is like if they made a "6 catholics vs 1 non catholic episode" and instead of atheist the mole was, like, christian or something.

@SimSamBertin

2y↑716

more like if the mole had been raised catholic, gone through confirmation, and no longer practiced catholicism.

@Alessandro-rn8tp

2y↑2

... catholics are christian, Enzo

@itsmj3103

2y↑62

orthodox christian, or jewish, but within religion I think they will definitely have an easy time spotting each other lol

@artunkircali7446

2y↑237

@@SimSamBertin or raised catholic, gone through confirmation, and just never goes to Wednesday mass while still attending Sunday mass every week

@zambella4143

2y↑110

They do that all the time in these videos, it’s really frustrating

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@barphh

2y↑138

they came for devens way too much 😭 they did not deserve that at all, they were so sweet the whole time

@beluwuart

1y↑84

i didn't think this video would have as much homophobia, transphobia and biphobia as it has

@luigilove254

2y↑2.8K

That Travis guy was so rude and annoying like.. I hope he is embarrassed of himself while watching this video

@YuhasLol

2y↑11

Well, damn. Lol

@quackson7532

2y↑6

He was very sweet ure the one being rude but ok

@beltboyz4

2y↑270

@@quackson7532 no he was not he was so pushy

@jinhub2175

2y↑45

I completely agree

@grahammaio9801

2y↑79

Agree. Didn't like him.

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@saturnyy

2y↑4.5K

just a friendly reminder that bisexuality DOES include trans people!

@user-fp4pm4ey6c

2y↑123

Ain't that pansexual..

@ItzMalick

2y↑2

@saturnyy

2y↑451

@@user-fp4pm4ey6c with comparing bisexuality and pansexuality based only off trans people is transphobic itself. trans women ARE women (vise versa with men) so why would anyone want to a label that separates that.

@sola_a

2y↑226

@@user-fp4pm4ey6c no. I'm sure you didn't mean it in a bad way but that is an extreme bi and transphobic thing to even imply.
Bi - attraction to more than 1 gender. Can be only 2 or even more.

Pan - attraction regardless of gender.

Sexuality is a fluid thing, definitions are not set in stone and people will feel comfortable with different labels. Sure, there are bi people who will onlt date cis people but that is their own preferences and has nothing to do with bisexuality. In general however, bi includes trans people and has ALWAYS done so

@aeongies

2y↑84

@@user-fp4pm4ey6c that’s a misconception

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@dingdongspaghetti

2y↑96

amazing, they've learned how to monetize gatekeeping and literal bullying, bravo 👏

@burra941

2y↑90

I kinda hate that they think being attracted to trans people means you are no longer gay or straight, or even bi... That's really problematic

@pinkpowercoin3341

2y↑5.1K

To me Devens is definitely in the queer community for just the fact that they are non-binary. So, this episode definitely felt..idk. Felt like they should have just gotten a straight cis person to be the mole.

@thatcitrusfriend6234

2y↑137

Well Devens said they aren't queer, so, no they're not. Regardless of your personal definitions, simply being LGBT+ doesn't necessarily mean everyone views things the same way; and I feel like it's disingenuous to loop everyone into a category they're not comfortable in just because it's easier.

This comment, to me, felt very invalidating so maybe think on that a bit more.

@lydialord1810

2y↑527

@@thatcitrusfriend6234 okay, so then they're in the lgbtq community. queer is a blanket term which is the context this was used in, but for the sake of ur argument, devens is in the lgbtq community. the implication here was that the mole would be an allocishet person, which devens was not.

@ItzMalick

@niklas5771

2y↑85

@@thatcitrusfriend6234 your argumentation makes zero sense since it is exactly the "personal definition" that you are referring to that makes them say they are not queer when in reality the definition with the general consens is that everyone who is not hetero cis is queer. everything else makes no sense. i can't say i am a woodchopper just because my definition is different from the one in the dictionary

@fos1451

2y↑86

@@thatcitrusfriend6234 this might sounds rude but the truth is, queer and sexuality has objective definition, it’s not really something that you identify and change the definition as you like. You can’t identify as straight but date and have sex with someone who has the same sex and gender as you, not how it works.

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@roxymorris8683

2y↑5.8K

"just because they're nonbinary doesn't mean they're queer" IM SORRY WHAT YES IT DOES!! Queer is anyone not cis/het

@mlee-w664

2y↑386

That's what I thought too😩

@thatonerazormain8223

2y↑440

literally i was getting kinda annoyed

@brittwilliams2757

2y↑151

i thought queer mean anyone not het, cause you be trans and be straight so that’s not really queer

@mirayoon1992

2y↑11

yeah, that's what I learned from a staff I know who is nonbinary

@GardenArcade

2y↑5

PREACH 😭♥️

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@joseignacioalonso9454

2y↑36

One honest question - in 4:27 , Elizabeth talks about her reservations on calling herself bi because she dated trans ppl, but isn’t bisexuality supposed to mean that you are attracted to all genders? Or even if we were to define it as strict attraction to men and women (which is not the definition but some ppl do) wouldn’t trans people also be included in that definition?

@gtpang3077

1y↑9

EXACTLY! Bi - sex - uality means you're attracted to both sexes . By that definition, Trans individuals are also included!!

@rel_bis

1y↑46

This video feels like 10 different hate crimes

@davidkraehmer2999

2y↑2.2K

the amount of biphobia in this video is astounding

@lolajuliet2662

2y↑25

can you elaborate? what specifically? the gold star stuff?

@ikuyazaii5877

2y↑60

I found some transphobia but didn’t find biphobia Can you elaborate ?

@hotgirljasmine

2y↑3

LITERALLY

@hotgirljasmine

2y↑383

@@ikuyazaii5877 personally i felt like when travis was attacking devens abt which gender do they like more to see if they were any less bisexual was definitely biphobia. if devens is bisexual… why does it matter which gender they like more… they’re still bi at the end of the day???😭😭

@Guarlaon

2y↑3

@@ikuyazaii5877 0:27

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@conangraystan

2y↑3.8K

I'd really like to know what Jubilee's definition of queer is after this video

@alaurahyde4652

2y↑110

Same lmao I feel like Idek the definition now

@cristian-bull

2y↑144

After this I feel the definition is whatever the contestant says it is for them.
It's like that episode where the "straight person" was still LGBTQ. Technically correct, but kinda putting off 😒

@pierresimonian1961

The actual definition of queer is anyone who is gender dysphoric or same-sex attracted. Today, that, unfortunately, has changed. Gen Z has taken it way too far. They have created new words like non-binary, demisexual, pansexual, etc., allowing for literally anyone to be a part of the community. They are asking pronouns, all of that dumbshit. This did not exist ten years ago, and now it is OVERBLOWN.

@ItzMalick

@Random-sk6hm

2y↑4

Hi, I study Media BA (Hons) and one of the main areas I've focused on is Queer Theory. To answer your question, in regards to queer, 'there is nothing in particular to which it refers' (FORGOT REFERENCE). You can be queer and not be LGBT and you can be LGBT and not be queer. I'm a gay guy and I'm not queer

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@michelebellaveduta242

2y↑40

The biphobia in this video actually triggered me and Travis got me all kinds of mad

@theo-be2dy

1y↑59

I've never felt more disgusted, invalidated, confused and.. flabbergasted while watching a jubilee video

@delvyntrinidad7131

2y↑2.9K

“It’s such a beautiful community where everyone is accepting” this couldn’t be more false haha lol

@ItzMalick

@user-sy5bj5nd6x

2y↑8

that what happens when the foundation is false to begin with 🤔

@surveyorsairinc2166

lol exactly. what asshats.

@romanemartinerie9352

2y↑51

fr i was like uuuh do you know racism and transphobia in the community babe

@surveyorsairinc2166

2y↑20

@@romanemartinerie9352 not only that but discrimination and hate overall.

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@ducky7jas

2y↑3.9K

Travis should be lucky this video is not longer because Erin vibes are strong with this one

@brief402

2y↑43

I was def feeling that too XD
But what would the tagline be this time?

@osokid9751

2y↑148

Lmao I love it when people reference Erin

@101spacemonkey

2y↑6

Erin?

@osokid9751

2y↑125

@@101spacemonkey Erin is from a previous video. 6 vegans and 1 secret meat eater. She is the most hated person on this channel. Check it out 🤣

@ea1622

2y↑37

@@brief402 "Are you an ally?"

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@pawtatuh

1y↑15

The root problem with these videos is that instead of trying to find THE LIAR they turn it into a competition and try to find the lesser - whatever the prompt is (less vegan, less gay, etc.) And while doing that they start being offensive

@batz_jbl

2y↑12

This video made me super uncomfy, the mistreatment, biphobia, the stereotypes, the rude questions, ugh. This video should not have been made as it is all about determining if someone “seems queer enough.” It’s so judgemental and relies on harmful stereotypes.

@eduardowolf8890

2y↑2.4K

Can we get a redo of this episode with the mole actually being straight and only sticking to there assigned gender at birth.
Cause this was hard they are someone who uses they them pronouns so it was difficult to find the mole cause they are a part of the community to some degree.
They just don’t use queer as a term

@mglps6316

2y↑36

They still got voted out first, idk about hard

@torycrosgrove2542

2y↑4

They probably defined queer in the context of this episode before it started.

@eduardowolf8890

2y↑13

@@mglps6316 yeah cause saying a bunch of queer places wasn’t gonna get them very far but they didn’t know they

@ItzMalick

@Ayveh

2y↑13

Exactly, I feel like they didn't get the definition of what the word Queer means...

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@SmoshLover3

2y↑809

Travis comes across as entitled and someone who has a superiority complex.

@ItzMalick

@Ayveh

2y↑27

I would say more of a "Insecure mindset" notice how he was only rude to the extremely attractive person. No hate to the others everyone seemed nice but the person he snapped at, would literally make you turn back twice because of how attractive they are. He definitely felt insecure around them.

@Random-sk6hm

ikr

@vulcanhumor

2y↑9

Well, he is a "golden gay" after all. Because obviously if you're a gay person who's been in a het relationship in the past, you're not "as gay" as a gay person who never has. Bisexuals similarly get their queerness measured by how much same-sex experience they have vs opposite-sex experience. He definitely comes across as a gatekeeper.

@Random-sk6hm

@@vulcanhumor fr he makes me embarrassed to be gay

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@federica9194

1y↑7

don't even start me on how invalidated I'd feel in that room as an ace person, gosh

@tenard_2725

1y↑10

imagine being an a-spec person in this group. it would be terrible

@intensehummingofevil

2y↑1K

this shouldn’t have pissed me off so much but it did

@karan_karan_karan

2y↑73

ikr? what a weird video... why not just gett the mole to be a straight guy 😭

@ItzMalick

@intensehummingofevil

2y↑29

@@karan_karan_karan literally- i also got mad at them saying people “don’t look gay enough”….

@Random-sk6hm

2y↑16

@@intensehummingofevil Exactly its so disrespectful and people like that make me not wanna be part of the community. I'm a gay guy but cos I don't 'dress gay' and don't 'act gay' I'd probably get voted off immediately

@trev6751

Fr he is non binary he is queer if he dosnt want to accept it he should be here…

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@Annie-qm5kz

2y↑515

When travis asked devens which one they liked more...sorry but that wasn't it
What's that supposed to prove lol

@pablo.4011

2y↑2

Drag him, that question made me so uncomfy.

@AndrewJamesCosgrove

2y↑2

Well they said 7 on the queer scale so they’d need to like one more.. Travis was just seeing which they liked more

@brief402

I thought he just asked "what do you like about her"?
I didn't hear the which one is better question

@Whitemenhavelittledicks

2y↑54

He was literally just projecting his biphobia

@ItzMalick

Yo fam I make a variety of short entertaining reactions, and a variety of other content on YouTube As well, I’m still working on quality, but I guarantee you will find something you will enjoy!💛💛💛

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@romijordan9404

1y↑24

this video is proof how prominent biphobia is in the community.

@rebeccasheerin150

52w↑14

Thumbnail : who’s secretly straight?

Mole : “I’m bisexual”

Definition of biphobia !!

@rainbospud4316

2y↑277

Just a reminder to everyone; You never have to "prove" your queerness. "Looking/acting gay" does not make you gay or queer, in the same way not "looking/acting gay" doesn't make you not queer. You don't have to sound or dress like you think gay people do or should, because what makes somebody queer has absolutely nothing to do with how they present and everything to do with how they feel inside. You should never feel like you aren't queer enough, just because you aren't a "golden gay" or you don't relate to the majority of those under the queer label. You should never feel like a stranger in your own community.

@naymurphy5217

2y↑1.2K

Some feedback for Jubilee as a trans person who enjoys all their videos: The comment about being attracted to trans people as separate to being attracted to men and women was made by two people in the video, which is not great trans rep for a queer video, and there should have been a trans person in the cast, the only non-cis person was the mole, which I find quite odd.

@princ3ssc0wboy

2y↑31

exactly my thoughts!

@mariagonzalez7612

2y↑16

thiss

@blowbunny

2y↑43

I thought those comments were super weird too. I'm glad someone brought it up

@emmylouane2202

2y↑8

THANK YOU

@mishka_bear

2y↑4

yes, thank you!

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@planetmars456

1y↑16

This should've stayed in the drafts bestie

@707chloe

2y↑8

travis was wrong asking the “which one do u prefer” cuz since they said girls he gave like a “disgusting” look like he was expecting the other one to say “boys” since they were “queer”

@padrakia7770

2y↑178

I absolutely hated how Travis treated people in this video, he has a horrible personality.

@ItzMalick

@BlueHat1

2y↑646

Wow, most of them are so judgy and just plain terrible people. Especially Travis. For a community that claims to hate judgement, they were so rude.

@MiLlamoName

2y↑35

For real, Travis gave me horrible vibes lol

@ItzMalick

@Death-999

"For a community that claims to hate judgement"
Ahahaha, I don't think the LGBT community even says that lie anymore, even they don't believe it. This is a video where someone says she hates cis men and they all laughed. The community is very hateful and judgemental. It will eventually implode and it'll result in us going back in time to where gay people are targeted, harassed, hated and assaulted. And as someone who grew up through a time close to that and tried to help gay people be accepted, that really angers me.

I remember when straight people also wanted to be able to be proud of who they are, and gay people acted like children snapping a toy away and said "no, you can't have that". I didn't fight for that, I fought for all people to be proud of who they are. No requirements necessary. Especially considering barely any gay people have gone through any hardships in their lives these days, they're all privileged with a wanna be victim complex.

@anerd14

2y↑9

travis is really giving us a bad rep

@DeanfromJapan

2y↑4

Aside from the gay community being notoriously racist, community and people are two different things. These people are people and not a community. Is there a "heterosexual" community?

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@missmochiicecream

2y↑6

Counting Devens as the mole because they don't identify as queer is TECHNICALLY correct, but also I think it opens up a really messy discussion about what queer means and how it applies to people as a whole, whether they feel they are a part of the community or not. Hmm. I would definitely say Devens is queer, but I respect that Devens doesn't identify with the label. I just also think there's a better way to have this discussion (maybe a middle ground episode?) and to keep "odd one out" (ironic title for this) as the typical "cis straight person pretending to be queer". It's hard for me to put into words. Devens, you are welcome to identify however you want! You're valid, you do you, and just know that there is always a place for you in the queer community if you ever need or want it.

@WolframRY

2y↑85

Can we just take a second to acknowledge that "gold star gay/lesbian" or "golden gay/lesbian" are not terms that are okay. They are very derogatory towards people who hadn't figured out their sexuality until later or for other reasons have been in non-gay relationships. The term holds a superiority complex and should be completely removed from our dictionaries

@krimchicheese4683

i was so bothered by this thank you. its fucked up to see queer people practically saying theyre better than other queer people because they havent slept with the opposite sex?? super outdated

@bavillalexander9983

2y↑1

Well im a platinum star gay. 😂

@thecommenter9267

2y↑4

I have no idea what's going on. All I see are random terms being thrown around. I think I found myself in the wrong video.

@jatdaman

2y↑1

Get over it

@viniciusgrassi7544

2y↑338

This whole video made no sense wth
- "just because they're nonbinary doesn't mean they're queer" (????)
- a whole lgbt person being considered the "mole" just because they don't like the term Queer
- travis being a weirdo

@Raven_RVN

2y↑2

What's the issue with point 2? Are you saying they are something that they clearly don't identify with?

@viniciusgrassi7544

2y↑17

@@Raven_RVN No, absolutely not. I meant that, to me, personally, it is not fair that they can play the game as "the mole" when they clearly are part of the community, just not comfortable with the label itself.

@ItzMalick

@oh_omo7989

2y↑5

@@viniciusgrassi7544 not only that, some young audiences who may think they are non binary could be misinformed about how they do not belong in the queer term

@Random-sk6hm

Hi, I study Media BA (Hons) and one of the main areas I've focused on is Queer Theory. To answer your question, in regards to queer, 'there is nothing in particular to which it refers' (N.R.). You can be queer and not be LGBT and you can be LGBT and not be queer. I'm a gay guy and I'm not queer. So they're part of the LGBT community but not part of the queer community

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@serenediipity

2y↑493

its interesting to see how different ppl define the word queer. automatically, devens was targeted for dating a woman when they could've just been bi/pan, and as a nonbinary person i certainly did a double take at the idea of nonbinary not equalling queer as if queerness doesn't also involve gender. i think the misconstrued episode title makes the reveal fall flat because genderwise devens literally counts as queer. should've done "6 gay people vs 1 liar" if they weren't gonna use the full definition of the word queer.

@thatcitrusfriend6234

2y↑1

Except the word queer doesn't always apply to everyone, and Devens doesn't count as that if he doesn't use it? As I understand it's an umbrella term, so I don't see it as being a big deal. I'm also personally taken aback by the amount of LGBT+ ppl in this comment section not understanding or accepting this.

@maycarmel8416

2y↑52

@ThatCitrusFriend Making the mole an lgbtq person perpetuates a harmful stereotype that non binary and poly individuals are either invalid, or not really part of the lgbtq community, since "queer" is an umbrella term applied to the lgbtq community, so it just seems really insensitive on Jubilee's part that they did not specify that this would be about the individals use of the label "Queer" and not lgbtq people versus a cishet mole.

@ItzMalick

@Random-sk6hm

Hi, I study Media BA (Hons) and one of the main areas I've focused on is Queer Theory. To answer your question, in regards to queer, 'there is nothing in particular to which it refers' (N.R.). You can be queer and not be LGBT and you can be LGBT and not be queer. I'm a gay guy and I'm not queer

@maapauu4282

2y↑8

@@thatcitrusfriend6234 The main problem is how the mole was someone that most would define as Queer, meaning that it would be hard/unfair for people to find the mole.

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@alexidk4527

1y↑29

transphobia was wilding 💀💀 the biphobia wildin aswell damn and travis giving Deven a hard time cus they are mostly interested in women damn.

@earthmane

1y↑8

This video makes me reach new levels of anger I never thought were possible.

@kammore6209

2y↑318

They should’ve got a cis gender straight person to be the mole

@wendymacy5084

2y↑22

Yes. Now I just feel like I don’t know the meaning of Queer anymore

@ItzMalick

@Random-sk6hm

2y↑8

Exactly, they're messing with the intracies of identity and its confusing cos people have different definitions of the word queer

@joeyshears1483

2y↑13

Which it's fine that language is flexible but they should have made it clear to the participants and the audience at the beginning of the video what definition they were running with.

@Random-sk6hm

2y↑2

@@wendymacy5084 Queer officially has no definition other than 'strange/odd'. In terms of anything beyond that 'there is nothing in particular to which it refers' (Halperin, 1995). Queer and LGBT are two separate terms which some people consider as being the same even though officially they aren't. This was the issue as there's no agreed definition so jubilee should've just used a cis straight person

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@kirstyferguson7194

2y↑982

“just bc they’re non-binary doesn’t mean they’re queer” ok sis

@kirstyferguson7194

2y↑153

and THEN gets mad for not respecting her “gender-identity” like just say you don’t accept everyone and move on sis

@Catfue12316

2y↑39

YEAH HONESTLY that pissed me off so much

@lilsmolcrow

2y↑98

Queer literally means "non straight and/or non-cis" isn't it??

@DanDCool

? Yeah

@jomangeee9180

@@kirstyferguson7194 I have no idea what you are talking about, would you care to explain the difference in terminology

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@-LamiaSage-

1y↑4

"even though they are non-binary, that doesn't automatically make you queer" feels very invalidating

@Handy_Manny-lw1ub

1y↑5

The person that said being nonbinary doesn’t count as queer is so ridiculous, and Travis’s endless targeting towards Devens is disgusting🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@aaryalouise6391

2y↑378

Even if I had to look up if there's a special meaning for horse girl (more than just the obvious), I instantly knew it wasn't MEANT to be nice or even non-judgemental just by the way he said it

@ItzMalick

@vishisht4224

2y↑4

What does horse girl mean?

@aaryalouise6391

2y↑30

@@vishisht4224 apparently it's "A crazy, middle class, white girl who is obsessed with horses" in a very annoying kinda sense. They also write about them being basic but kinky or seeing people as less worthy/interesting/lovable than horses

@sabrinalim3333

2y↑518

As much as I love the premise of this, the mole should have definitely been a monogamous, cis het person. Jubilee is messing with the intricacies of identity and I don’t love that this invalidates nb’s and polysexuals by saying that they aren’t queer by extension because devens isn’t. They’re comfortable in their identity, but younger viewers watching this may think that if they’re non-binary, they’re not queer or part of the community. This feels like a missed opportunity for queers to show off their superior gaydars and the ending made me frustrated.

with love,
Sabrina

@Raven_RVN

2y↑7

This isn't saying being NB means you cant be queer, it just (rightfully) points out that being LGBT and queer are two separate, albeit often overlapping things.

@nataliefraioli7201

2y↑41

It literally felt like they only got deven based off biphobia tbhh

@ItzMalick

@Random-sk6hm

2y↑2

Hi Sabrina this is misleading from you. I study Media BA (Hons) and one of the main areas I've focused on is Queer Theory. To answer your question, in regards to queer, 'there is nothing in particular to which it refers' (N.R.). You can be queer and not be LGBT and you can be LGBT and not be queer. I'm a gay guy and I'm not queer

@Random-sk6hm

@@Raven_RVN exactly

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@eloglowxx

2y↑3

This episode literally makes 0 sense
The mole is literally a Queer

@l0veswitch

1y↑10

the biphobia in this video is so sad :[ fellow bisexual folks i love you it doesnt matter “what you like better” or what kind of relationship youre in

@theBabyDead

2y↑266

"Are you an ally though?"

That question is so annoying, I would've taken that chance to jokingly say "Nope, I'm here to identify you all so I can hunt you down later". Not because I ever would, just because the question is very clearly redundant.

@ItzMalick

@sola_a

2y↑4

How is it redundant? You have plenty of gay people who aren't even allies. It is a completely fair question to ask

@theBabyDead

2y↑13

@@sola_a well, because first off; You don't need to be an ally. This is cult-like behaviour. "You are either one of us or you are the enemy".

Secondly, because he's literally there pretending to be one of them for fun. It's highly, HIGHLY unlikely that someone who hates them, would be up for that. Considering they hate gays out of shame, and they'd literally be filmed posing as gay. They would literally never live that down.

So yes, it's 100% redundant. It's like being on a children's playground. Grow up.

@sola_a

2y↑8

@@theBabyDead

The least you could do is respect THEIR pronouns.

well she wasn't asking them to be an ally she was asking them if they are one, so not sure what you're getting at in the first part there.
And second, again it is pretty fair to not assume. As mentioned in my first comment, there are more than enough weird combinations of homophobic gay people and what not, the world is wild.

@theBabyDead

2y↑2

@@sola_a I don't remember hearing anything about pronouns.

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@aspens3842

2y↑784

I get that you can choose not to identify with the word "queer" itself, but I thought this was going to be about who is not LGBTQ+ aka Queer Community. My non-binary partner and I (cis woman) are also poly and we both identify as queer for many reasons. I am so confused by this episode. If it was just about finding the person that does not like to use the word queer to identify themself, it didn't seem like the participants even knew. Lol. Have we just been using this word wrong?

@azuradawn5683

@@Smiley957 You must be lost. Go find some empathy and stop pretending you know anything about the LGBT+ community.

@saras5823

2y↑53

no, you arent using the word wrong this video is just wack

@ItzMalick

@Random-sk6hm

2y↑6

This is why we shouldn't use the word queer. I'm a gay guy and not queer. They should've used LGBT+ vs non LGBT+

@Crow23346

2y↑1

@@Smiley957 true

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@EgoisticPerson

2y↑14

Travis is basically "Thats not gay" version of Erin the vegan 💀

@JessiJoy

2y↑7

As a queer, this episode made me SOOOO uncomfortable for so many reason.

@kenziep1025

2y↑500

youre non binary in a polycule and not queer? i don’t understand anything anymore

@chichi5985

2y↑9

😭😭😭😭

@MORNINGSTAR827

2y↑10

Queer doesn't have a single defination, For some people it's being in the LGBT community and for others it's having a sexuality othar than straight.

@tyreerkkk8404

2y↑1

Technically he still likes girls

@edwink1467

2y↑39

@@MORNINGSTAR827 Exactly, which is why this episode doesn't make any sense. "Queer" is such a broad term, but not everyone who is LGBTQ+ identifies as queer. Without a uniformed definition (for the purpose of this video), this game is just a mess.

@bambi1468

@@edwink1467 deven is part of a group that fetishises young asian women. build your castle without spaces on twitter for the thread.

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@EpicEthra

2y↑360

To clarify
- Queer is anything not cisgender/heterosexual
- Being non-binary is queer, as it’s not cisgender
- It’s okay if someone doesn’t use that term to describe themselves personally
- But when talking about groups of people and their identities queer is the most generic umbrella term
- Yes queer in the past was used in a derogatory was (BUT SO WAS GAY WHEN I WAS GAY AND GROWING UP). We can reclaim words and queer is more popular now.
- This episode is like the disney fan/hater one where the premise delivered isn’t what was actually promised by the title

@SN-vn6wb

2y↑11

The Disney one was super annoying

@dhdh2918

2y↑1

I think they’re using a different definition of queer, although I feel like its kind of an outdated one

@isimpledontcare2646

2y↑1

Hiii! I want to learn as much as I can about the LGBT+ community, can any one explain what it means to be Non-binary and whats cisgender? So far, I've seen different definitions of it.

@Ray03595

@@isimpledontcare2646 and you'll keep getting different definitions.

@thatcitrusfriend6234

2y↑6

Being non-binary is not inherently queer. Being apart of the community is also not inherently queer. Assuming someone is something, but just doesn't use the label is ridiculous because why else would they not use it? It doesn't apply to them.

Simply put: You don't get to decide someone's identities for them regardless of your personal definitions. It's invalidating and disrespectful, so maybe stop it?

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@paulinap6516

2y↑2

Idk if Travis is trying to be overly sassy for this video, but he’s very rude & it really rubbed me the wrong way. I’m glad the comments are showing me I’m not the only one.

@flyynn913

2y↑5

How is Travis gonna be in a wheelchair w this much attitude, like c’mon stand up and say somethin if ur gonna act like that smh

@ihaveasmallpenisbut8413

2y↑1

LMFAO

@digitalbercy

2y↑674

4:39 bisexual has always and WILL ALWAYS include trans people, you should in no way feel limited by it if that's how you always thought of it....why would they say something as biphobic as that and then continue to separate trans ppl as if they were an entirely different category, you can be straight and date someone trans bc trans ppl are always included in any sexuality.

bisexual literally means attracted to two or more genders, so it can include up to all genders and even outside the gender spectrum(non-binary, genderfluid, etc), stop the biphobia

@spookygreg

2y↑116

Literally! So many of them have so much internalized biphobia and transphobia

@hotgirljasmine

2y↑28

SPEAK ON IT

@moo3970

2y↑59

YES thank you for saying this! As a bi person, I feel like we get told that our label is not inclusive because people think it just includes men and women when in reality it can be anyone and everyone of all identities

@TheCarlScharnberg

2y↑40

No, BIsexual quite literally means - by the very definition of the word - being attracted to both sexes, meaning TWO (as there are only two sexes). Polysexual is really a misnomer, but is meant to encompass people who are trans-identified. Stop the ignorance.

@shasiarangel

@@spookygreg literallyyyyy

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@toetail8665

2y↑66

I love how absolutely everyone in this comment section Knows who Erin is despite it being several years since her little break down.

@ItzMalick

2y↑1

@kiarara7014

???

@MiriWhoCares

2y↑2

ugh i hate the term „golden gay“ so much. it’s so invalidating to people who discovered their sexuality later in life, wanted to experiment AND bi people

@Kinetochore-ti5hk

2y↑6

Fun fact: This episode currently has 19,189 Dislikes to 17,743 Likes (according to my browser extension that returns YouTube dislikes), making it one of the few Jubilee videos that net favors Dislikes.

@hell0daisy193

2y↑1

as it should honestly

@jademarie5605

2y↑147

I WISH i was in this vid cuz i would absolutely shut them down on their biphobia.. you can be bi and still like men more, you can be bi and like trans people, you can be bi and like whatever gender you like. Almost everything these ppl said were bad takes imo

@Jeseabell

2y↑212

I'm Bi and that does not exclude trans people nor has it ever in history. Even if you think Bi means 2 genders umm Trans people would fit into that, as I see them as the gender they identify as. But also that's not what Bi means anyway. It's basically saying I like people of my own gender and theirs's. I personally do not like Pansexual cause it's not more inclusive and many claim its basically not seeing gender. When it comes to just attraction I definitely find men, women and nonbinary folks attractive for different reasons.

@mediocreclownery6333

2y↑11

Pansexual is not more inclusive than bisexual but you don’t have to hate on the label to validate your bisexuality.

@Kitty4u

2y↑12

Pansexual:1.) Attraction to all gender identities, gender expression and sexes. 2.) Attraction to people regardless of gender or sex

Bisexual: attraction to more than one gender.

Yes pansexual has two definitions , which has caused confusion. The label pansexual was actually created by bi people. The bi community at large accepts pansexuality, and considers it as under the bi umbrella. Yes some pansexuals disagree with this- kinda like how not all LGBT+ people ID as queer.

- I am bisexual and pansexual

@Its_tiy

2y↑1

@@Kitty4u Thank you for commenting the definitions!!! As a pansexual woman, I persoanlly always felt like pansexual IS more inclusive and just less boxy. But that has to do with that fact that only in recent years bisexual has become defined as attraction to more than 1 gender vs. when it used to be known as attraction to "both" genders.

@Kitty4u

2y↑2

@@Its_tiy bisexual has had several definitions some inclusive others not. But bisexuals have been being inclusive for a long time, it's not new. Bi community at large defines at with the more than one gender way. With that said many people can feel attraction to nonbinary people, including straight and gay people.

@mojojojo8631

as a bi myself i wouldn't date someone who is trans cause the images i have of them they are not that so it is weird

@jessewalter3332

2y↑2

As a non binary person having someone who is queer say I am not queer was so invalidating.
And the the biphobia of "what do you prefer?" Like come on be better.

@josie474

2y↑3

I dispise the internal homophobia and transphobia within the whole community itself. The fact that Devens immediately got dismissed solely due to the fact that they're non-binary (which is a valid queer identity) and they have a preference for women. Devens' preference for women gave the group a "straight lense" that invalidated them immediately. You could tell they did not want to answer that Bi question.

@springfrog8624

2y↑86

travis was so aggressive and irritating

@ItzMalick

@Random-sk6hm

2y↑1

ikr

@luciia6631

2y↑39

“I’m a golden gay”

Erin: that’s not vegan

@shawncook323

2y↑2

Are u that desperate for likes 🤣

@ItzMalick

@kelamine183

2y↑7

i really hope travis reads these comments. He is so easily dis likable it’s insane. He’s one of those people that are automatically annoying asf. I wish they voted him off first round but something tells me they would feel bad to make him wheel himself out of the set lol. Just a horrible, snippy, rude, attitude. If he wants to attack others i’ll come for him easy. That girl he claimed as a "horse girl" should’ve gone off on him fr. I know i would’ve. He seemed to immediately invalidate Deven and everyone here was a mess tbh. Being a pansexual woman, i did not like the representation here at all.

@una6702

1y↑3

even tho devon was the only one who doesnt identify as queer, they are still being the most respectful

@tpwk_amelie3600

2y↑73

travis made me kinda mad i'm sorry

@slaaaaay2536

2y↑5

same-

@lela2911

2y↑4

I mean he is so rude it's not even funny

@cleetus_

2y↑3

Ikr i hate him

@lenaschuhmacher8311

2y↑3

Yes he was so rude

@ItzMalick

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@disappearingcat

2y↑411

i feel weird because queer now is not just a label, is also when you want to say you're apart of the lgbt community. so if you're non-binary, you're queer, because you're in the community, no?

@FakYuhGoogel

2y↑3

do people decide if they're part of "the community"?

@clemence4103

2y↑6

@@FakYuhGoogel yeah, you can choose to label yourself as queer or not to, it's really all about how you feel about yourself and how you relate to a the label, as for any lgbt+ label

@FakYuhGoogel

2y↑2

@@clemence4103 Isn't using different pronouns enough to be queer?

@babydoll2k5

2y↑4

@Thea M wait what do you mean pronouns dont equal gender i am highly confused im sorry

@FakYuhGoogel

2y↑4

@Thea M Wait, isn't pronoun all about defining gender?

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@edenbeden5791

2y↑4

“Just because they are non-binary that doesn’t make u queer” yes it does???

@hell0daisy193

that literally makes me wanna to scream like queer means so many different things, it’s a freaking umbrella term. like why do ppl gatekeep???

@edenbeden5791

2y↑1

@@hell0daisy193 LITERALLY like was screaming my brain off when I watched this

@zanaisu

2y↑4

Travis did not slay

@idonnow2

2y↑120

bruh i love how aboslutely everyone was offended by this video, both the participants and the audience alike lmao

(i'm not dunking on anyone i also felt uneasy to say the least)

@ItzMalick

2y↑1

@lindabog1407

2y↑99

I actually really liked Devens they were so sweet😊

@ItzMalick

@rosetroon2740

2y↑5

the way i wanted travis to be voted out just bc they were so inconsiderate and rude

@gtcrgt

2y↑5

Jubilee should do an episode with the most hated contestants from previous episodes, we have two already, Erin and Travis.

@baakojernigan7095

2y↑182

I'm as gay as they come but almost every one of them was weirdly irritating? Maybe I'm just in a bad mood...

@ikuyazaii5877

2y↑48

Everyone but devens was somewhat annoying besides the white guy

@The.internet_guy

2y↑8

Because they are 😭😭

@Onnarashi

2y↑22

I didn't like Kacie especially. It was the misandry for me.

@Ray03595

2y↑4

The Mormon wasn’t. The rest to varying degrees. Weird video

@oakhoax168

2y↑7

I found two of them to be pretty annoying.

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@rockyember

2y↑1.5K

this was a really fun episode and fun group but some of the definitions of “queer” seem to differ among the viewers, producers, and people in the video :)

@cmbsr4851

2y↑13

It was happens when a term starts an insult to homosexuals and people try to claim it as a "gender identification, sexuality, etc" these videos make me wanna start my own lol they seem interesting

@jeremysmith9694

2y↑8

That's because it's a made up term that means whatever the user wants. It's not real vocabulary.

@FakYuhGoogel

2y↑6

This! Everyone is confused about the terms.

@aya_amoreee

2y↑31

@@jeremysmith9694 Aren’t all terms made up?

@jeremysmith9694

2y↑4

@@aya_amoreee yes. But they mean something that everyone agrees upon. If the community itself doesn't even agree on the words then it's a made up word that doesn't mean anything.

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