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Prague (プラハ Puraha) is a Japanese three-piece rock band formed in 2006. In September 2009, they signed with Sony Music Japan's Ki/oon Records and made their major-label debut.

Band Members:
鈴木雄太/Yuta Suzuki (Vocals & Guitar)
伊藤賢佑/Kensuke Ito (Drums)
金野倫仁/Tsuguhito Konno (Bass)

The band first formed when all three members were attending the same music college. Suzuki and Ito -classmates since high school- were introduced to bassist Konno through a mutual friend, and in 2006 they began playing around Tokyo under the name: Sound Coordination. In 2009, they signed with Ki/oon Records and released their first major-label single 'Slow Down'. The band's second single 'Light Infection' was featured as the opening theme during Season 4 of the anime series Gintama. Later, the band's fourth single 'バランスドール'/Balance Doll, was used for the same series again. This time as the eighteenth ending theme.

Official website: http://www.praguemusic.jp

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Band Members:
Lee Zafka (Guitar, Synthesizer)
Lisa Li (Keyboard),
5355 (Bass, Synthesizer)
Mobby Shizi (Drums)

Prague(formerly known as: Surging Prague, Spring of Prague or Prague Spring) was founded in the summer of 1998 in Shanghai. They are a experimental rock or post-punk band with avant-garde elements. They are always breaking the rules of performing, producing, rhythm, and editing. In 2002, Prague finally makes it sure that they are an instrumental band. The peaceful melody accompanied with noise makes them different.

Prague are at the same time playing as the Lowest Summer and The Wedding Beast.

The Wedding Beast is the new band founded by Zafka, 5355 and Shizi on March 2008. They use guitar, drums and synthesizers as well, as their traditional musical instruments. They try to enlarge the possibility between the improvisatory sound and the instrumental music.

The Lowest Summer is about city-sound, slow rhythm, and guitar noise. In 2006, they performed in ShuiLuGuanYin and D-22 and redid the incidental music of Sátántangó on the stage.

Impudent -Interlude-
Prague Lyrics

We have lyrics for these tracks by Prague:

For The Lost One If I should stay Well, I would only be in your…
Light Infection どうしようもなく長い未来知りたいしたい事邪魔させやしない受け売りの答えなどいらない砕いたドアの向こうが見たい守…
Makurakaze すました空に悩みを浮かべて眺めていてはこぼれた思いを緩んだ風に流してみる春を込めた冬を引きずった朝に淡い心に溶…
Negai 輝いた今日が滲む夕日と共にビルの隙間に吸い込まれてゆく暗いのは怖いから「消えてしまうよ」と告げてるみたいだな…
Sai 1.2.3と転がす釆を 2つ折りの盤面の上で進んでく程降り注いでくる問題点遊びなんだよ適当に誤魔化し合って拙…
Slow Down 望んだはずの前進が浸っていたい安心感を奪ってゆくまだ飽き足りないもんで過保護な弱い心のためにワンシーン残しといて…
Stance 浮世は正解が無いんだ枠が無いほうが楽しめるそうで踊れない場所なんてないんだ縛りのない夜に騒ぎ出す本能味気ない現…
Stay Seize upon that moment long ago One breath away and there…
サイ 1.2.3と転がす釆を 2つ折りの盤面の上で進んでく程降り注いでくる問題点遊びなんだよ適当に誤魔化し合って拙…

バランスドールゆっくりと目を覚ました狂おしい程変わらぬ世界で感覚が麻痺してるから落ちる空と輝く雲を見てバランスとっても崩れゆ…
枕風すました空に悩みを浮かべて眺めていてはこぼれた思いを緩んだ風に流してみる春を込めた冬を引きずった朝に淡い心…
流転溜め息ついた蛍は夢を見るまとわりつく陽炎に夢を見る飛び回っては水草の匂いしてさ川の向こうに積もる雪を見てるた…

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Leszek Kadelski

4y↑128

There could be a price on your head now. In Swiss francs, obviously ;)

Jochem

4y↑1

Don’t worry, I live in watch central, Biel. The Swiss are pussies.

SG 88

Ha ha ha

Leszek Kadelski

@jfdomega Thanks, corrected :)

jfdomega

4y↑1

Leszek Kadelski francs. 🙃

bob christopher

4y↑1

Swiss francs.

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DG B

4y↑139

My dad got an Omega in the early 70’s, never sent it to service, still on his wrist and keeping perfect time.
Of course not good for Omega finance team but great for Omega reputation.

ابن الحجاز العظيم

My relative has been having a datejust watch for 55 years never sent to service !!

Vog Dos

I have a working Seamaster from my Great-Grand Father. Same here never has been serviced. Runs perfectly. Though Crown is broken, had it replaced.

starfthegreat

3y↑1

My Dad bought a vintage Omega from the mid 60's in the early 2000's. He wears it everyday regardless of what he does and only serviced it once (he went for an independent watch shop, an Omega service centre would have probably given him a huge bill).

Mr P

4y↑2

DG B I have a 1970 Speedy that still runs if your wear it everyday. It was my father in laws and I’m positive he never serviced it .

C C

4y↑9

Yea A Seiko SKX can go 20 years. I think its redicolus. Ok so after 5 years intead of the watch keeping +/- 1 second a day if keeps +/-3 seconds a day. No big deal. If the watch is keeping within +/- 30 seconds a day Im happy. Not worth $500 - $1000

Mark

3y↑9

One more thing. To make this work you have to make sure the customer comes to you for the service and doesn't use his local watchmaker.

So don't forget to make sure that they can't buy parts!

(I asked a well known UK watchmaker's supplier which manufacturer they'd recommend based on them selling parts to non contracted watchmakers. They said that none did.)

S Wilson

4y↑2

Based on my reading through the years, this debate about servicing applies to all mechanical watches, not just Zenith and Omega. The alleged issue pertains to degradation of the lubricating oils and wear of the engineered parts. If the watch has a mechanical movement, the manufacturer will recommend periodic servicing.

Dan Tung

4y↑42

My friend David Yang has been wearing a Rolex Datejust for 57 years. Although the watch has never been opened for any service, it still runs normally and accurately. Also, I know an old jewelry salesman who has been wearing a Hamilton for 36+ years. The watch has never been opened yet still runs well. Two gentlemen have the same saying, “Nothing wrong, why fix?”

ابن الحجاز العظيم

You are right , my relative wears datjust for 55 years , never been serviced

Ben Whittard

4y↑2

That Certina is an absolute classic 👍

Leszek Kadelski

4y↑7

I have my father's Certina Argonaut 280 from ca. 1968. I bet that watch wasn't opened from mid 80' till last year. I've decided to give it to local watchmaker. It turned out it was dirty inside, the gasket was gone, the crown was worn out and one of the bridges - broken. It took 6 weeks, required sourcing parts from Australia (and I'm in Poland), because there were no new parts available, but all together... 25 euro. Works like a charm.

starfthegreat

3y↑3

I once gave my 90's Breitling Navitimer to an authorised service center, a week later they called me telling me that they need to replace the whole movement (even tho the watch still works) and that it will cost me 2600$. I kindly told them no thank you

Kuddlesworth NA

4y↑10

My father owns a Citizen that's over 20 years old and it's never been serviced. Still runs as accurate as it did when new. I find it unlikely you ever need to service a watch unless it's noticeably running inaccurate or not working properly.

Thomas Higgins

3y↑4

Well, yes Tim. My 1970s rectangular Omega de ville (one of rather too many Omegas in my possession, I'm afraid) stopped working. I took it to Omega in Geneva (where I have already taken rather too many vintage Omegas, I am also afraid), and they quoted me CHF550 for the revision (quite "reasonable", but the movement is simple, just a sweep second hand, no date), but said that the face must be restored (CHF935). Why? The dial looks perfect to me, even under magnification, beautiful even, very dark blue. Omega say that they cannot guarantee the revision for the two-year period they propose, because micro-particles from the hands or face will get into the movement and make it go wrong. In the case of this particular watch, I don't believe them (though, after mutliple trips to the shop with multiple watches, I have got to know the manager pretty well). So, the watch is languising in a drawer - and I hate things that don't work. Almost enough to swallow my pride and go back to Omega, rue du Rhône, Geneva. But not quite. The watch in working condition would only be worth about CHF500 (I think). But resale value is not what collecting vintage watches is about really, is it? Thanks for the videos - always interesting and amusing in equal doses.

kaunas888

2y↑2

That nonsense about having to change the dial sounds like a complete scam.

Wolfman

4y↑8

My first ever automatic watch, which my mother bought me when I was 15, a Sekio 5, operated perfectly for 23 years before it needed a service. If this budget automatic movement can do fine for so long, so can the much better built Swiss movements.

Nick Martin

@Wolfman thanks for the answer..

Wolfman

3y↑2

@Nick Martin in the UK at least, the service is very expensive, slow (3 months+ with very loose timescales for completion) and customer service in particular is terrible - you are just a ticket number and they ask you not to contact them about progress as they don't have an internal tracking system to let you know when you could get your watch back or if there are delays. Would have been a much cheaper and better experience to go to a local watchmaker.

Nick Martin

@Wolfman why was it a mistake?

Wolfman

4y↑1

@B Simpson Yep. For sentimental reasons I wanted to send it to Seiko for a full service. On reflection that was a mistake.

B Simpson

It would probably be just as cheap to have your watch man drop a new movment in as service the original

smr144

3y↑5

So, the problem with Zenith are the costly service intervals. With Omega, the problem is the price increase for what they call the abstracts, right? Because Omega's coaxial is supposed to be more durable, and require less maintenance than usual automatic movements.

Scotty in Ohio

4y↑4

Not 100% sure why I found this channel (other than the fact I like wrist watches) but glad I did (find this channel). It very much appeals to my German sensibilities and the internal conflict between "keeping up on maintenance" and saving on service monies. Brilliant!

Georgie Bungle

Ok Goebels

13noman1

4y↑4

A wonderful argument for the second "quartz crisis": just buy a nice (or even less nice) quartz from Seiko, Citizen, Timex etc for under $200, replace the battery every so often (if you didn't go Eco-Drive) and then replace it after 10 years if you wish....

MrVaeron

4y↑1

AD said once, never open as long as it holds time for as long as it should. Within a big service, usually everything that can wear of in that time is replaced anyway (at the same cost) and even if you have 1-2 parts that need to be replaced cause of longer wear and tear, you usually save that by having a service less in the end.

Rusty Shackleford

4y↑4

I actually like that idea of a certificate of authenticity from the maker, although they want way too much for the darn thing.
Unfortunately, the watch industry is a shystie business in general...due to the low standard to qualify for "made in Switzerland." They also know their customer are very fickle people who'll lose their marbles over something as simple as a single red line of text...

markcoveryourassets

Rusty Shackleford , yup. I recently purchased a low end Swiss Made brand which needed a new movement, and omg!, the stamp on the inside of the case-back said "Made in China". You need your own attorney to figure out how many sweatshop parts can make it into your "Swiss Made" watch. I get excited today when I see stuff made in Taiwan. That's high-end sh--!

Liping Lin

3y↑3

I just got my EL Primero serviced. It was filled with grease, debris. etc The watchmaker took care of it and made sure nothing gets fucked up. Cost me $440 to get it all fixed up. No parts replaced, everything was good. If it was at Zenith they'll probably charge a big service and have the original parts replaced, which is a big no-no.

Tim

4y↑4

Ferrari did the same thing in the early 1980s. The belt service for 308s was every 5 years. After a while dealers complained they weren't making enough money on service SO Ferrari changed the service interval to every 3 years.

Rob Dove

2y↑1

I recently bought 2 new Omega's & was thoroughly dissapointed with them. The quality just isn't there anymore, despite the much lauded Metas certification. Ended up selling both at a hefty loss. Now I have a pair of vintage (Omega Serviced) Seamaster's, manufactured when the Brand was at its peak & I'm happy. Both have Service Paperwork, period correct Boxes & "extract(s) from the archives". £90 an Extract just to confirm the production date, destination country & general specification, isn't cheap but was worth it. Also, servicing cost was reasonable for the amount of work done & I dont anticipate repeating the process for another 5-7 years.
As for new watches, I've invested Grand Seiko. 100% In-House, unrivalled quality, bulletproof reliability and long real-world service intervals. In many ways just like a Rolex, except they're readily available and you're not likely to get robbed for wearing them.

Z Z.

4y↑6

I hope this go viral!I had an Omega for 20 years, bought used, no box, no papers, I wear it everyday and i never sent it for maintenance and works very well!Omega not taking one cent from my wallet !!😂😂😎

E VH

4y↑14

I absolutely love Omega, but I hate all their limited editions.

philips defreville

4y↑23

And maybe, "Thank you for sending us your vintage 321 Omega Speedmaster for service. We have changed the dial and bezel, so your watch looks new." Omega now thinks, "Great we have a genuine vintage Speedmaster 321 dial and bezel we can sell on ebay under our phantom account."

LosCabos

@D William absolutly true

D William

4y↑6

Always ask for your original parts back. Omega will do this, Rolex won’t.

Trev Barlow

@philips defreville ah, that's a relief!

philips defreville

4y↑1

@Trev Barlow lol, my comment was more in jest.

Trev Barlow

4y↑1

Tin foil hat time!

Scott825

4y↑4

Still wearing my uncle’s 1964 Time Marlin. Never been serviced and running great 55 years on the wrist

April Cain

4y↑3

Very true. I've got some pieces from cheap brands from the 40s that have never been serviced and they work just fine after all these years. It's a racket!

Bing Crosby

4y↑4

Service is a very controversial subjects, it comes down to two main factors: 1. how much you use the watch 2. what is the beat ratio of the watch; if your watch has an hi-beat movement like some Zenith do, a service every 5 years make sense, but generally 10 years is fine.

T D

I have a Zenith el Primero (so it is a high beat. Bought it ten years ago, use it every single day. Not once I have taken it for a service. Runs fine.
I see opening a watch is a risk a human makes a mistake, or during maintenance dust or human particles get inside, etc.

So I hang on the wise words; when not broken, why fix it?

Tom Scott

3y↑1

The recommended service levels are of course absurd, but it's not limited to Zenith and Omega. Every brand does some version of this and Rolex is actually the worst, replacing parts that don't need replacing so as to keep them in house and unavailable for counterfeiting.

Gentleman of the Pen

4y↑4

I don't know about Kiwi, but shoe cream jars from Saphir tend to last very long as well. I don't think it's a rip-off : cream for hydration and re-pigmentation of the entire shoe and wax for mirror polishing of the toe box.

Stuart York

4y↑2

An excellent thought provoking video.
Thank you.

John Barclay

3y↑1

A lawyer friend of mine was given a Patek (pronounced "paddock" by ArchieLuxury!) by his client and lamented for years how much it costs him to keep servicing it.

Martin Tanz

4y↑1

We are in a funny place with watch collecting. I am more in the use the watch until it stops keeping good time camp. Even some of my really old watches have only been serviced once in 20 or 25 years and still run fine. I had a vintage Omega that I inherited from my Grandmother's estate that might never have been serviced when I got it in 2001. I had that watch repaired locally and 18 years later, it still runs fine and keeps good time. Another vintage Omega I bought was a bit misrepresented as keeping good time. It didn't. But, the service, again local, only cost about $200 and 8 years later, still keeps good time. Finally, I had a modern Omega serviced last year for the first time after owning it for 15 years. It was starting to lose about 1 minute a day, so I figured it was time. Just a small servicing and it is back up and running.

None of my watches are museum pieces, of course, and none cost me more than $1,000, so maybe that is the difference.

Shaver Ray

4y↑2

Tim, I’m not sure it’s entirely fair to say Omega are part of the “service racket”. They recommend a full service between 5 to 8 years, which is more extended than most other brands. Also, if you check out the prices on their website they range from £430 to £570 which is pretty good when you consider what one of their full services comprises.

Bonhzeppelin

4y↑1

Not only this the labor to full service just one of these timepieces is painstaking and exhausting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8LzKljGh9g&feature=youtu.be
I'd go permanently blind servicing these minature, mechanincal wonders!

Caseback Watches

4y↑2

Actually I've mixed the two companies to one. And the service intervals of Zenith are exactly as I've described them. All on their homepage. And this certificate crap is the new idea of Omega. Also on their website.

Shaver Ray

Caseback Watches Just a bit odd, because you’re usually very fair and factual. Never mind.

Caseback Watches

4y↑3

Yes, my presentation might be a little exaggerated in this aspect.

J H

4y↑17

Cheers Tim definitely an amusing way to say don't believe everything watch companies say

Pancake

4y↑29

As a watchmaker i can tell you that even older Rolex models can break down after 5 years on some parts in the movement. And you don't send the watch to switzerland, you look for an authorized dealer with a certificated workshop. Shorter waiting time, you have someone to talk to if problems arrive and the costs are at least cut in half if not more. I work with ETA movements and after 4-6 years the movement CAN show signs of wear and tear. It can keep ticking, but it will only get worse from that point on. If you send in your modern Omega or Rolex after 7-10 years, it should come back just as new, as they change out most gears, wear and tear parts even when they seem fine, just to make sure. In the end they replace all the sealings, regulate your watch back to the original precision if something has changed, test it for weeks so it still has the COSC certified accuracy. Waterproofing included. This all takes time, skill and money - so it will cost money. An average watchmaker in his workshop will not have the certification, so he will not get the parts (easily or officially) lets say from Omega or Rolex, so he will just reuse the parts found in the movement, clean it, oil it up (if he even knows how to do it correctly according to the manufacturer) and put it back in. This is also much cheaper, but sometimes they charge as much as the manufacturer, just to make some extra cash. (Hey, they need to survive, the watch industry is killing them) Also don't forget you are getting a renewed warranty for said service from the manufacturer, at least two years if i remember correctly. But always remember: Oil and parts break down, so they form a nice sludge of metal and smear, wearing down parts around them and jizzing all the crap around in the movement. Have a nice day

Jean Roch

4y↑7

Yeah... but this is kind of bullshit. Humans have made plenty of watches that do not require any maintenance for very long periods of time. I've always known Rolex to not only be failure-prone (dare I say planned for obsolescence ?) but they are also known for shitty business practices like claiming their watches are jewelry and therefore it's not a problem if they break. They have become a gaudy status symbol.

Rubin Begeja

3y↑1

My first and lecture about watch service was given to me by someone who repair them in the form: You know how seconds + or - run your watch. If that difference change than you need a repair. There is no given time to service a watch.

obwanusa

4y↑30

I bought a Rolex DJ back in the late 90’s and I’ve never had it serviced and don’t plan to until it stops working properly...because THEN it will actually NEED a service. I think some people confuse watches with cars LOL.

Dufus Finder

@Marin Ciobanu um, no its not.

Avg. Joe Watch Reviews

Exactly the way I think sir. They replace parts with service. Great, when/if my watch breaks, it can be fixed by replacing damaged parts.

Marin Ciobanu

4y↑1

@Connor Dooley cost is the same, wether its broken or not

Tree Dillinger

4y↑2

Connor Dooley sure, but there would be absolutely no benefit. It’s not like a car that needs regular maintenance. When a watch gets serviced it gets taken apart and completely rebuilt, then it’s a matter of time until it needs to be completely rebuilt. Servicing it before it needs it won’t help the watch in any way, you’ll just need service again sooner. Any reputable watchmaker will tell you the same. The exceptions would be of the watch becomes magnetized, which can be easily remedied (you’ll know because it’s running really fast all of a sudden) or if there’s a defect. That could include a manufacturing defect in a new watch or a defect from service caused by the watchmaker. Either one of those would be covered by warranty, either by the manufacturer or watchmaker who serviced it.

Connor Dooley

Well if you care enough about it you can have it serviced before something breaks, whether the cost is worth it is up to the buyer.

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Jason Wilson

4y↑2

Omega told me every 3-5 years, I've owned my watch from new for 7 years, still running perfectly and I've not serviced it . Service it when it needs it people

Stephen Millar

2y↑1

You're not wrong! Best bet is to buy lots of different watches, wear them on a rotation (and not on a winder) and the service intervals extend indefinitely.

Robert Waffel

4y↑25

If a high end watch doesn't run perfectly after 10 years it is crap and should be get rid of.
I have a King Seiko that hasn't been serviced in 50 years and it still ran strong.
Bottom line: Don't service your watch unless there is something wrong with it.

Hugedickerino Kripperino

4y↑1

D William you dont NEED to. I dont dive so as long as my divers are at least splash resistant im fine

Glen Net

I bought my Seiko divers quartz in 1983, when the battery dies every five years or so the Seiko dealer changes the battery and does a pressure test whilst I wait, about fifty bucks from memory, it was a while ago. Keeps perfect time, only adjust it when the clocks change.

D William

4y↑1

Hugedickerino Kripperino Didn’t day full service but you need to change them out

Hugedickerino Kripperino

4y↑1

D William thats is true but did say unless there is something wrong with it. Hard to determine but u probably dont need a full service for the gaskets

D William

4y↑4

Disagree. If you have a dive watch that you use for diving you need to make sure the gaskets are not dried out and it’s watertight.

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The Rancher

4y↑164

Rip off customers? How about unlimited limited editions?

DLH

@Dufus Finder whatever helps you sleep at night you little insecure boy

Dufus Finder

@DLH Why, when you speak so wonderfully dufus! That’s how I found you! Don’t forget your Timex.

DLH

@Dufus Finder speak for yourself dufus

Dufus Finder

3y↑1

@DLH You tell me. Your home is probably full of them.

DLH

@Dufus Finder wtf are they?

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M.d streets

4y↑6

I've been wearing my Oris divers which I was bought for my 30th... I'm now 46 and it's still running perfectly 😂😂

Glen Net

Excellent. A little while ago I was thinking of buying an expensive watch but abandoned the idea when when I read the brochures and found it needs servicing about as often as my car.

Vintage Watch Guy

4y↑5

Tim, you hit the nail on the head right there. Such a scam

Chris B

2y↑1

I love when common sense wins! LoL
Great to see you again Tim…

Jay Sikes

4y↑7

I took my Zenith El Primero to my AD for a clasp issue. They sent the whole watch to Zenith. I got a new clasp, a service and it cost me nothing. I didn't ask for the service, BTW. Watch was running just a bit fast, and was over 5 years old. My AD told me if the watch is running fine, then to leave it alone. I realise every situation is unique, but Zenith hooked me up.

Shaver Ray

4y↑1

They’re a classy company.

The British Indian

4y↑1

Very interesting, I never knew that these companies do this! Thanks for the education

Pierre Mullin

This video made my day. Your brutal honesty is such a refreshing alternative to the sheep and sheep herders :-)

Heiko Wallauer

4y↑2

Great video, Tim! Spot on, as always.

Yehoshua Cirt

4y↑1

Dried up gaskets, moisture invasion. Dried up oils, increased friction. These things exist and have to be dealt with. I don't want to wait for the signs of corrosion and wear. I'm not sure it makes sense to wait until the watch shows signs.

Bees of St. Ambrose

4y↑18

Corporates need to be creative:) unlimited growth is reaching its limits...

Roman Michael Hamilton

4y↑3

+1,000 upvotes if I could.

Richard Bartram

4y↑1

Always a pleasure . I am slowly gathering the confidence to do ( not services ) but say swapping out a case. Richard

Toddy Rocks

4y↑1

i have a seiko 5 bought in 1996, the same year, i believe, that the 7S26 movement was released. it has had the crystal replaced 4-5 times but never a service, not much wrist time now but it still keeps great time

D William

4y↑1

I own a Seamaster bought new in 1999 and had it serviced once. Works great.

Chris M

2y↑1

I only sent my Omega seamaster for service after 11 years on the wrist when it started to gain approx 25 seconds a day 🙃

👀 jeeperspeepers

4y↑1

Very informative and entertaining. Thanks!

William Miller

4y↑2

I like how you mentioned the psychological aspect of the service, if it makes me feel good...then why not?

ekapris7880

2y↑1

Watches with ETA based or other common movements are the easiest to maintain, having minimal costs. The more complicate the higher the costs. Same goes with fancy material wheels. Another factor are the use of the watch, are you using it for swimming / diving / on a dusty environment with thin dust / extreme cold or heat / is it sitting on box idle for long time / living in a high humidity place etc etc , I am not saying that you need to follow the maintenance instructions but be aware that it may need… bottom line everything eventually will need maintenance and based on your watch collection it is always a good idea to save few $ /€ /£ every year for that purpose. My practice here is to put on the side the same amount as for the servicing costs.

My plan is to have my watches serviced every 8-10 years, and for the ones that got serviced I am keeping the service papers / history. The money I am putting on the side for this purpose goes into stocks so won’t stay idle :)

The one test I am doing though way more regularly is for waterproofing, especially for the watches that I am using when traveling.

john adams

4y↑6

I have an 15 year old Parnis with a Seagull auto, and has it has been flawless. No servicing. Titanium case $68 !

chris penn

4y↑4

Haha - love it! You could substitute 'watch' with 'car/automobile' too! By the way, don't tell Omega, but I have some of their watches and I'm the stingy bastard.... :-)

numberstation

The best watch channel on YouTube by a million miles.

Nick S

4y↑20

You get a watch serviced if it starts to misbehave, otherwise it's not usually necessary. A good quality watch can run 20+ years between services.

z00h

4y↑1

@Laurens Leurs two failed analogies in a row, this must be some sort of a record.

Mohamed Hussain Rasheed

4y↑2

@Laurens Leurs Exactly. But only if something is feeling weird or off. Or you see its not working as good. Otherwise hold on to your money

Laurens Leurs

@M. Kohlhaas I was thinking of maintenance as a way of saving money by avoiding or postponing costly repairs. Car maintenance can indeed save lives so I should maybe have used another comparison, like a coffee maker. I don't wait until that breaks down because of calcium buildup. It gets descaled and cleaned from time to time.

M. Kohlhaas

4y↑1

@Laurens Leurs What a stupid comparison... Name the watch that causes people to die if it breaks, so I don't buy it. Thank you.

Tippy Kaffu

@Laurens Leurs Not until it breaks, until it actually feels off.

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iDid

4y↑1

Yeah...I saw that, when I had my A.T....sold it as fast as I could! Omega, really wants you to buy a new watch...hell, most of them do!

David S

4y↑8

They are now working on a way of remotely making your watch stop running if it is overdue its service.

NEC

4y↑3

Tim you are an honest and straightforward person, thanks for made the figures .
I never service a watch no matter the brand and the value meanwhile keeps the time.

Russell Harris

4y↑3

Delightful Tim,to add to that i have a O&W M5 with an ETA2824-2 movement that just died after 25 years with no service from new.Will i get it serviced?Probably not when i can purchase a chinese clone movement for $90 and that clone has been tested by mark lovick and found to be as good as the original.Thankyou for all the laughs your review gave me.(tee hee)

David Coleman

4y↑3

Ha ha ha . Always funny . I have a vintage Bulova ( 1950 ) that runs 2 min fast a day . I may wear it once a day every few weeks. Maybe I will take it in to get serviced . Maybe I will regulate it myself . If I mess it up I can still take it in . Same money right ? Lol

Steve Wilson

4y↑1

Brilliant! You could win an oscar with that performance. 👍

Alexey Barkovskiy

4y↑3

I have Molnia pocket watch from 60s and it still runs, but oils dried out and you can feel it.

icychap

2y↑1

Love this video, thank you. And that word! Fantastic! I will use it.

Mr Andersson

4y↑2

This is gold. Thanks!

H Jones

4y↑3

When did Omega and Zenith become the Ferrari of the watch industry — buying the item, and then constantly driving it to the shop for upkeeps?

Abhinay Raikar

Rolex is the Ferrari of Horology, Omega is the Porsche

TopSecretVid

3y↑3

Bottom line the whole watch industry is sketchy at best!

Bob Richards

4y↑20

That’s an evil little chuckle you have there Tim 😂

peterC12221

4y↑1

Great video, really enjoyed it 👍

B Simpson

4y↑1

My watch man services a basic watch for £50, £60 with a new glass.
I hesitate to call my watch man a 'watch maker', none of them make a watch from scratch, they repair and service.
I suppose you could call him a watch mechanic?

james nash

4y↑1

...there is a time and place to be cynical and this is it ! while i resisted a new el primero, this makes me less proud to own an Omega...

Mark Time

In the light of ever increasing warranties (JLC 8 years, Rolex 5 (+5 from some UK ADs) then I guess that loss of revenue will encourage alternatives like Authentication etc..

Recycled 🇨🇦

Becouse of videos like this I have subscribed to your channel. Excellent service 😂😂😂😂. All the best!! 😍
Greetings from Canada 🍁

E D

4y↑37

this guy can't be german - he is too funny!

whatever04811

He is half Brazilian

David Coleman

4y↑1

In Russia you do not make a joke , the joke is on you !

Anonymous

4y↑1

@E D still

E D

4y↑3

Annex those sunloungers!

Anonymous

4y↑1

@E D your still not funny

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Russell Harris

4y↑9

With regard to the servicing,if their watches are that good why the frequent servicing?

Roman Michael Hamilton

@ekim andersom MB comes with a bumper-to-bumper 4 year warranty and a 5-year on the powertrain and something like 100,000 for corrosion.

I need to look at my MB service manual. ;-)

Russell Harris

4y↑2

That is why i have so many Chinese watches.....................

Roman Michael Hamilton

4y↑2

That's what I've been thinking ever since I bought my first expensive watch. :-)

Geo Vargas

4y↑3

Wow, never thought about this aspect with Omega watches. I had my eye on the new Omega Seamaster 300. Might have to rethink things. Thanks 👍🏼

Geo Vargas

Al Mc That’s good to know. Thanks.

Al Mc

My Seamaster Chrono is 8 years old and running just as good as it did when new. No service needed yet...

Joe Lombardi

4y↑3

Dude, just because they recommend you service your watch every 3 or 5 years doesn't mean you have to. Buy whatever makes you happy......and when the time comes and the watch is malfunctioning in some way, take it to an independent watch maker....i'm sure you will get better service and it will be cheaper as well.

Caseback Watches

4y↑1

Yes, but keep in mind that ive mixed the two companies in one. The service schedule is by Zenith, the certificate by Omega.

Eugene Nakamura

4y↑1

Yeah, there are fools with money who are happy to part with their money for piece of mind. I have a friend who is a Rolex fanboy who just has serious anxiety about used watches that doesn't have "papers".

Andrew Watson

Damn!...... I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Last year I had my 20+ year old Rolex serviced and I've now discovered I could have saved a few £....

Adam

Yeah, that's expensive, but the watches are called luxury for a reason. I'd expect this from a luxury watchmaker.

Que Horas Sao

4y↑1

very educated video,thank you

Svetoslav Popov

4y↑5

Vostok watches list 10 years as a service interval :) That is high standard.

Pramod Karanth

4y↑2

Yes brother.....those watches are extremely inexpensive and are built like a tank....very Soviet in it's POU(Philosophy Of Use)....does the job.... unapologetic, unabashedly Russian....

Beck Stein

4y↑3

My dads Rolex had NO services since bought new in 1962 is within cosc specs per my time grapher.

Much like oil changes for the auto. Consumer reports proved a oil change not required every 5k miles.

Luis Padilla

3y↑1

Rolex,Patek and every other major brand do the same thing why blame Omega and Zenith only. If you buy new and save your papers you don't need a certificate.

Galen Marek

2y↑1

Liked and subscribed! Thanks for opening my eyes, dankeschön!

Caseback Watches

Thanks for the subscription!

Achmea Eureko

2y↑1

I have about 25 watches most of them Zenith some of them 100 years old. They all work well! Just check my collection all work well without servicing. Just let them go, use watch winder for automatic ones.

Sam

4y↑1

Vostok. Same accuracy specs as Seiko NH35. Service interval, 10 years. Total replacement of Komandirskie mechanisms, $23. Time required, 10 minutes.

superfast30

4y↑2

I turned my back on the swiss watches altogether!

LosCabos

i just bought the smp and im
mad, running like all other seiko wtaches and will cost me like 5 seiko watches in 5 years haha

Mister B Watches

4y↑1

Chapeau Tim, unterhaltsam und schön dargelegter Inhalt. Guter Filmtip on top, ist neben Casino mit Robert De Niro einer meiner Lieblingsfilme 👍🏻

Mister Five

4y↑1

Guten tag schmetterlinge 😃🦋

Caseback Watches

Danke schön, freut mich, dass dir das Video gefällt.

Dimitrios Athanasiou

4y↑15

Amazing, that makes every Rolex looks cheap

Dimitrios Athanasiou

4y↑1

@Caseback Watches Tim is it true that the silicium parts of Ω watches, like anchor and Ballance wheel need to be changed by every service because of low fatigue?

Caseback Watches

4y↑5

Well, actually I've mixed the two companies to one. And the service intervals of Zenith are exactly as I've described them. All on their homepage. And this certificate crap is the new idea of Omega. Also on their website.

Shaver Ray

4y↑1

Dimitrios Athanasiou Only if you buy the Zenith. Tim’s exaggerated the Omega numbers a bit, and also the service intervals.

Dimitrios Athanasiou

@J Johnson only if they selling numbers drop

J Johnson

4y↑4

That is, until one figures in elite Rolex service plans.

ابن الحجاز العظيم

2y↑1

Rolex recommends service every 10 years , and I won't service any watch before it past 10 years , main thing you need to take in your consideration is to change your watch gasket every 5 years to ensure there is no water or dust get inside the movement

Markus Vlasits

4y↑1

A Rolex Submariner 116610 retails for around USD 8,5k, I guess. That is, if you can get it for retail. Now, let's speculate for a moment about the actual manufacturing cost of the watch, COGS as accountants like to call it. I have not run the numbers, but I find it hard to believe that it's more than USD 1,5-2,0k. Add amortization, depreciation, SG&A and what will you most likely get ... for a sure a number that is SIGNIFICANTLY less than 8,5k. That's what is Rip off to me ...

Mattimos

4y↑1

The whole watch insustry is designed to shave off cream from wealthy people.... It 's the part of deal. Wealthy have extra mony the want to spend. Watch industry just facilitates demand.. 💁🏻‍♂️

Lynette Nusbacher

4y↑2

Pity my nephew: one day he will inherit the Patriarch's 1959 gold Seamaster automatic, will sadly thank his grandfather for the honour which he will have earned as eldest grandson, and then he will find out why it has been in a drawer since 1998.

Blair Calvin

4y↑1

Great stuff Tim. 😂😂😂👌

Lars A G

4y↑1

Ditto with car services. With synthetic oils you should be able to prolong the intervals. Instead they want you to come in every year. Some even claim twice a year. I call BS!

Paul Jackman

4y↑23

My watchmaker tells me to leave my watches alone unless they are not working properly. He's a really thorough guy, but recently I bought a lovely old watch from the 1950s and I took it to the watchmaker to show him and maybe get it serviced. He said: "Does it work alright? If yes, leave it alone." So that's the advice I am following.

Rusty Shackleford

4y↑1

@Elijah Schnake If you're in business long enough and have a reputation for integrity and fair pricing, you build up quite a customer base.

Elijah Schnake

4y↑1

My watchmaker is the same. Such an honest man, I don't know how he makes a living. I hope he never retires.

Blue 3rd

Paul Jackman My local watch maker said exactly the same. 👍

Tim W

4y↑2

He clearly doesn't understand why a service is necessary. Watches, like any machine with moving parts, needs to be cleaned and lubricated to prevent permanent wear and damage. Leaving a watch run regularly past its service date is like running a car beyond its oil life. Sure you can do it but at some point it will wear out and be beyond repair. This man is not your friend, and NOT a true watch enthusiast or expert on the subject.

Glen Net

4y↑1

But why spend many thousands of dollars on a watch when a hundred dollar watch is just as reliable and just as accurate, or more accurate if it’s quartz?

oscar gustavo arcos ruiz

4y↑8

When do I send my Rolex Submariner to service?
When he broke down ... 30 years after my grandfather bought it ... second-hand.
Service every 5 years? My balls!