happiness
Rachèl Louise Lyrics

@Susanrogers-pt9mf6hx1w

Common sense not so common

@Tate525

​@@milkshrekpastaHow about not sleeping with straight up criminals?

@taragonleaf8005

A very recent UK study showed that the #2 thing that cured female anxiety/depression was quitting full time work. For men the #1 thing that cured anxiety/depression was finding full time work.

@PatrikLooft

citation? very interesting!

@130rne

Citation is all of human history.

@jayl9729

Meaningful work. My work is meaningless and makes me anxious and depressed. And I feel like a significant portion of white collar jobs provide very little meaning.

@taragonleaf8005

@@jayl9729 For me, meaningful work is the type that allows me to provide for my family. The job itself doesn't NEED meaning in and of itself, for me anyway. but it the job itself has its own meaning, that's good too.

There will always be monotony in daily life, but if you assign a meaning to it, it will become meaningful. My wife went from hating cooking to enjoying it because instead of a laborious chore, it because providing warmth, welcome, and nutrition of her children and husband.

@marcusramirez3436

man doing his tradtional role,, women doing their traditional role.. wow groundbreaking. so add one more acceptable option woman wants to pay for her own stuff not have a man pay for her stuff..thats ok too. they used to cal them lesbians and thats ok too.

@rakastellar8955

I stopped hormonal birth control after 4 years and the only thing I have noticed is the depression went away immediately. No more suicidal thoughts. Other than that, nothing changed. But I am glad I am no longer chronically depressed.

@stevecooper7883

That's a pretty big "only thing" 😅

@theshwomp625

That's a HUGE thing. You could have just as easily not be alive.

@Pcastagnaro

I am happy for you, thanks for sharing

@Tight--LiNeZ

There's a price to pay for everything. There are no free lunches anywhere in the universe. So there's bound to be a large price to pay for subverting something as fundamental as one's reproductivity and getting to have unprotected sex to your heart's content.

@leochen887

As an 85 year old retired aerospace engineer, I was brought up with "traditional family values". That is to say, I expected to one day marry a girl, we would start a family, she would stay at home and take care of the children and the housekeeping, and I would go out and work to support our family.

I do believe that in today's world, that has become increasingly difficult to do, what with the rise in the cost of living. Of course, back then we lived in a modest old house which had only one bathroom, no a/c, etc. Property taxes and utilities on our first house were also low/affordable. And we had only one car that was quite old.

Women didn't have oral contraceptives. So we were careful. OTOH, my children got married later than I did. But their standard of living is much higher than what I first experienced, what with multiple cars, larger and much more modern houses, children who have to be driven to their after-school activities, etc. So it's all much more expensive now.

Are they happier now? That's the question, isn't it.

@georgeyoung92

Yes, the quantity and quality of relationships has decreased greatly. Neighbors dont talk or visit, strangers are feared, very few conversations or actual teaching of one's kids, etc.

@TheFriendlyPsychopath.

As a gainfully employed Aerospace engineer A.E.E.M. Degree employed as a Aerodynamics analyst CFD level 2,what does stating your occupation have anything to do with what you said?!

@jasonriek1986

@@TheFriendlyPsychopath.
It’s showing status and what the person was happy with despite their relatively prestigious role. It adds weight to the person’s words.

Why did you feel the need to highlight this?

@TheFriendlyPsychopath.

@@jasonriek1986 I’m an aerospace engineer as well, aerodynamic CFD level 2. A 85 year old man stating a job title from 20 years ago has nothing to do with the video.

@shadowsketch926

@@TheFriendlyPsychopath. to a degree it does:
it shows perspective, to a degree, level of intelligence, and they finish it off with a good question,
after mentioning the level of standard they saw in their own life and then the one from their children.

maybe it was to stroke their own ego a bit, but let someone have their little moment would you,
it's not like it hurt the overal point.

@ptw7665

I feel the negative role of social media was overlooked as a contributing factor to young people having less desire to see romance in films. Social media has been and is a large contributor to the problems we're seeing in relationships between men and women. Our youth are well aware of this and don't want to be bombarded with another unrealistic representation that few of them will experience in their lives. They know it's fiction, yet they don't want to be slapped in the face with another unachievable expectation as they see on their social media everyday. I don't claim any expertise, yet this is the first thing that came to mind when this question was raised and I felt it was relevant to mention. The negative impacts of social media on all parts of society never fail to amaze me. Food for thought.

@TheFriendlyPsychopath.

What does that actually feel like?!🤔

@CosmicAeon

Take any social issue and it's a pretty safe bet that social media is a major contributing factor in fucking it up. Their algorithms actively promote the most toxic, hateful, idiotic comments and viewpoints and are spreading division and hate completely unchecked, and nobody in society seems to care.

@user-hd8sz5wv4h

I'm of the strong belief that social media is the #1 cause of the destruction of the fabric of society! The reason romance and small gestures like giving A girl flowers are now topics of resentment among the younger generations! Is t social media and dating apps have essentially turned everyone into legal stockers! Someone's profile can summarize information on them. That used to take 2-3 dates A handful of late-night phone calls to gather. That would either make you more interested or less interested in your dating interest! So now all the work of getting to know someone , the time dedicated to finding out if your compatible. Has been widdeled down to A few minutes. Essentially as corporate America would put it is that they've made dating more Efficient. What we've learned about efficiency is that yes it seems to be more productive in one sense. But quality always seems to go down, and the value of human workers being now expendable/replaceable are becoming less and less necessary! Looking at it in those terms. We've taken something that's supposed to be hard work and time dedicated to finding achieving and keeping A relationship. Has become an inefficient waste of our time! Time we should be dedicating to fattening the pockets of corporation's instead. Corporation's who created these apps and every other kind of sexually pleasurable toys etc etc... So you no longer need human to human intimate relationships. Cause they're to time consuming, and time your spending on trying to find and keep A loving relationship with someone. Is time your not spending being A cog in the in America's corporate system of consumerism. So unbeknownst to everyone these corporation's design and develop more "Efficient" I.E. less time consuming, less expensive, cost effective way for you to find your special someone! Basically dating these days is like shopping for A new pair of shoes. You don't like one pair? Well that's OK cause there's A see of millions of other shoes/women/men for the user to choose from at the swipe of A finger! Making dating this transactual thing that dehumanizes the opposite sex into replaceable products. That's why the majority of profile pictures you see on dating and social media. Are of people posing in the most revealing provocatively suggestive ways! Showing themselves in ways that aren't normal for them. Cause subconsciously everyone knows that that picture is the introduction to their profile. So if they want people to visit their profile they've gotta be sexualy alluring. Even though this picture is one of 100 others taken and photoshopped to completely manipulate your appearance. Just to beetout the profile pics on either side of yours to hopefully enhance your chances of finding love! So by making you insecure, and less confident in yourself. That your own self respect diminishes to the point that you become so desperate for someone to validate your sexuality. That you'll display yourself like meat! Hoping that that is going to be what brings you any kind of meaningful relationship. Then months later wonder why the relationship didn't work! Well it didn't work because there's no time energy and work put into building A relationship. Exploiting yourself sexually for the world to see and judge every lil character flaw. Picking apart not just your appearance but you as A person. I think we can all agree that, Every person male or female knows when someone is checking them out! Who doesn't like feeling attractive? Now consider that you don't know what kinds of people are being sexually attracted you. I know when someones looking at me because they think im pretty. I also know when someone whos looking at me is undresing me with their eyes and imagining all the pervy sick sadistic things they want to do to me! We al know that uncomfortable feeling. That feeling that makes us look for recording devices when in public restrooms! Out of fear of being violated and humiliated for somebodies sick voyeuristic pleasures! Yet we'll then post these sexualy suggestive provocative photos of ourselves in hopes of attracting anyone but A sexual deviant! The logic behind it all is fucking ridiculously unrealistic! Like Porn star's expecting to be treated like anything other than A sexual toy for other peoples pleasure! You chose your profession, now you wana wonder why your being followed home by pervs expecting you to be who you portray yourself as in your movies! Or you wonder why the other parents at your kids school never invite you to helpout with afterschool functions. No matter how conservative you dress and portray yourself to be outside of the movie set! Your always going to be seen as A sex worker and A threat to their marriages and to the sexual innocence of their children! If you want something of substance in your life. Modesty is sexier than A naked body that everyone/anybody can see. Relationships are two sided. They dont revolve entirely around you and what you think they should be. Just because you don't always agree doesn't mean it has to end in A power struggle fight with one person eventually submitting to the other in an never ending I'm right your wrong dynamic! And you can't expect that someone's going to check all your expectation boxes! Cause news flash you won't check all there's either! Intact having A checklist of people's characteristics is not only demeaning to your partner. Putting pressure on them to somehow live upto some ridiculously unrealistic standard of expectations. Instead of allowing them to just be themselves. Is only going to create for you A fake superficial relationship that's more for show than anything cause it's based on lies! Go out into the world and meet someone in person. It's literally the only way of knowing if your truly compatible. Profiles lie to make themselves seem like better candidates. But most importantly you cannot sense somebody's pheromones through an electronic device. Pheromones are biologically what relationships really boil down to. You can have all the chemistry in the world online. Talk for hours and actually develope an emotional heartfelt loving connection to someone. Be completely sexually attracted and turned on by this person. All the way up to the point of finally meeting in person. Then for reasons you can't identify be completely ad utterly turned off by them! It's not they're fault they've done nothing wrong. But you just are not attracted to their biological makeup, and really there's nothing you can do to change that. But its something that we as A species have no control over! Long story not so short ditch the apps, devices, and any other form of dehumanizing displays of yourself for others to vote on. As viable ways to find that special someone! All this technology is only driving us farther and farther apart. And creating new opportunities for corporate America to create even more products, solutions, medications, professions etc etc to supposedly help others fill that void! It's A viciously Neverending cycle of situations and solutions that only ever seem to make problems worse In the long-run or creat even more issues. So they can then create more ineffective solutions! The only common factor is that the 1% are always profiting off us! Wether we die or live and especially our happiness mean absolutely nothing to them......

@charlespancamo9771

If they see it on their social media everyday then clearly it is quite acheivable

@ZetaNeonFox

​@@charlespancamo9771 it would be if it were true. Social media is filled to the brim with fake people showing the best parts of their life, the highlights, which are also often manipulated to look like good things. People on social media don't show when they're down or the ugly side of their life unless they are searching for pity points.
Social media leads you to believe beauty in all "body types" (from being fat to being morbidly obese being seen as beautiful) yet they won't show you how some of the major influencers of the movement have died at a very young age because of their lifestyle.
Social media will show you girl boss queens who don't need no man, but won't show you the ones who regret buying into the lie.
It will show you trans and non binary in such a positive light, but won't show you why they came to that and what they suffer on a daily basis, as they are worshipped for being mentally ill instead of having them face reality. It won't show you all the ones regretting their transition and suffering or killing themselves over not being able to undo.

@stephenryan7698

I have 40 years with my wife three great kids never much money partly because went self-employed to deliberately be able to pick up and take kids to school, swimming, basketball, gymnastics, netball, days out. Best days of my life still have great relationships with wife and kids and I thank God for all of it.

@Mandragara

If you hadn't married, but still done all of those other things, what would have been different?

@sUmEgIaMbRuS

​@@MandragaraIf they hadn't married, they probably wouldn't have done all those things. I'm in the 5th year of my marriage and we have a 6 month old baby. Let me tell you, if we hadn't deliberately made it difficult for us to break up, we would've done it multiple times, and for really stupid reasons at that. I'm grateful to my past self for making that decision, for without it I wouldn't know the sheer euphoria of looking into my son's eyes and seeing his face turn into a wide grin. The emotional depth of my relationship with my wife also grew with each low point that we managed to get over.

@stephenryan7698

If you mean if I was in a partnership instead of marriage then nothing. But a marriage in England still gives more security by law for a woman. A committed partnership in principle is no different to a marriage.@@Mandragara

@Desheep

This 1h40m interview was uploaded 7 minutes ago, and already there are people posting that are either strongly agreeing or disagreeing with it.

@scottydoesntknow6901

You don’t watch things at 1000x speed? Pfft. Pleb.

@Testikles-mx6zj

Good observation, no one is listening or thinking, just conclusions and clapping with seal noises.

@Testikles-mx6zj

Or maybe bots

@euphegenia

naturally

@KM-hk8tc

Probably because they know their comments are most likely to be viewed now or never.

Hi everyone happy holidays from my wife and I!

“Use the witch clairvoyance, tap in to the astral realm” 😂😂😂😂 on point!

@daketh4572

As a person who works dept of corrections, most of the people in prison come from single parent families. ITs very telling

@joannetilly4586

and?

@daketh4572

@@joannetilly4586 i said it... most of the people in prison are form single oarent families. mostly women. So therefore single parent families are an issue. I didint think it was a tough to correlate

@sonderexpeditions

That's more a correlation to poverty. Wealthier single parent homes or lesbian couples both raise well adapted children in terms off college educated and successful on average or above average.

@duarteestelita7257

Brilliant. :)
What a joy to listen to/watch.

You guys' chemistry is great.
I think.. you having Louise more frequently...in some sort of 'series' would be really really good for all parts.

Thanks so much for this,
Kudos

@jonbutton3259

These conversations are just on another level. Well done!

@jasonstevens3071

This was a PHENOMENAL discussion. I will definitely give it a second and third watch. There were so many excellent talking points and they were very well thought out. BRAVO. 💯🔥

@forman208

Anyone who's THIS enthusiastic, with multiple platitudes in their post is highly suspect.

@jasonstevens3071

Define platitude, and show me where mine are.

@Certago

Ignore the troll, agree with you, lots of well worded points, all needing lots of thought and worthy of further investigation.

@specialpeopleable

men don't want to fight and die for a country that hates them

@lonewolf18650

Nope

@DrewPicklesTheDark

People realize all modern wars (and even many past ones) are to protect the financial interests of an international clique, not freedom and democracy, or whatever other excuse of choice a regime uses.

@elgenerico6263

Nope. Everyday, working class men are more willing to die for their country in countries that are dictatorial and oppressive towards them.

@rogerramjet6429

Same applies to the men vs women chemistry and the level of entitlement women make, while claiming that they "deserve" everything on an impossible list
What they have want, DOES NOT EQUAL, what they deserve.

@laudydaudy7173

This is the first time I have heard of Louise; she is very articulate and intelligent. Watching her explain some of these issues that I was completely oblivious to was a pleasure. I wholeheartedly agree with her take and am lucky to be the very last generation to grow up before smartphones became mainstream for teenagers. I am also lucky to be happily married for about 16 years to a woman who is definitely more traditional.

@elgenerico6263

This channel is my best random subscription in the 2020s yet.

@vanessajanik4623

Great convo! I’ve never heard of Louise but I’m a fan after this. I’m an elder Millennial & I’m so sick of the over sexual, feminist bullshit. The lack of value placed on marriage & family is so counterproductive to humanity. I think the younger generations are going to flip this culture back to some normalcy. I’m hoping anyway.

@ronyeahwiggie729

I really enjoyed this conversation. Lots of great insights on both sides. I must get Louise's book!

@ThreadBareHope1234

1:06:30 "The blast radius of that signal"😂😂 Perfect way of putting it

@prahyectzeh7031

True story in my family. My grandma was known to be the most beautiful woman who also had the prettiest hair in the village. Her friends essentially convinced her to bleach her hair because it would've made her look better. This resulted in her having to cut off most of her hair...They then laughed at her and called her stupid for falling for it.

@_zantetsuken_

"friends"

@ryanfairfoot263

I can believe that. She was a threat so they sought to bring her attractiveness down. This is also happening in entertainment.

Anecdotally, I was invited to bring gifts to a baby shower. Problem being I'm male. I pointed this out and was rounded on. As it being female only is not a thing anymore.

I brought said gift and was repaid with mockery and laughter and had it pointed out that baby showers are a female affair.

Lesson learnt. Trust your life experience, what your eyes see and your ears hear. Beware of gas lighting

@D3sdinova

​@@ryanfairfoot263those people sound cruel and mildly evil.

@Colton-wz5sh

@@ryanfairfoot263literally delete them

@choppergirl

@@D3sdinova You just described most of humanity.

@Dmitrihson

In society of overly competitive individuals, there is no room for love and compassion.

@fairbanj

What a fantastic interview. It was long enough I almost didn't play it but I enjoyed every second of it and it was SO worth it. Definitely a like and a sub for this!

@moundshroud800

I have to say that listening this woman speak is so refreshing, even men disagree with me when I say: "Live in the world as it is, not as it should be."

@SteamedToast

Loved this conversation, many points resonated with observations I've made and feelings I've had over the past 20 years growing up through these times.

@christoph3187

Wonderful, intelligent and insightful discussion, love it!

@hobgoblin9339

Honestly, in order to have a stable and thriving culture, you need men and women who are actually strong willed, responsible, and self accountable. If society destroys those pillars then it all collapses

@BB-xx3dv

It's over.

@stevec3526

Men and women have to be able to work together. This isn’t happening.

@larkop6504

The destruction of traditional society in the UK has been by design since WW2. You are absolutely correct about responsibility and accountability, there is very little of both in Western society. I moved to Asia were its against the law to damage someone's public image, the young have huge respect for their elders and the majority have families in there early 20s. Society is booming and full of life. It's truly sad to see my home been turned on it's head and people still not seeing or acting upon how much we are being manipulated by government.

@Aerdellosi

(((all according to plan)))

@TheDionysianFields

Why strong willed?

@esparker23

I love this conversation. Thank you❤

@ginny798x5

Great interview and topic - thank you for bringing this topic to us

@matthewbrook7683

I once met a male CEO of a major mining company. After pleasantries I asked him what it was like. He said he worked 80 to 90 hour weeks. Spends about 90% of his time away from his family. Doesnt know his kids and is responsible for about 12000 workers and $10billion dollars a year. I looked at him and said, wow. Is it worth it ? He looked at me and froze and said well. I worked hard all my life to get here. But you could tell apart from the ruthless ambition he really wanted to be with his wife and kids. Female CEOS have at it ladies. If you really want to know what a completely hollowed out vacuous life is like work that hard for 30 years to get there.

@georgeyoung92

Female executives have written about the necessary path and it does not include children or extra time spent with spouses. Choose the goal and pay the price.

@georgeyoung92

Yes, but men are more adaptable to it then are women, regardless of success. Women still need relationships more than work.@@derrick2181

@crosstudio

@@georgeyoung92and pass your fortune on to your nieces and nephews... if you have any. otherwise, all that you worked for just gets auctioned off by the Government.

Oprah Winfrey is worth 2.8 billion and has no kids.
Steven Spielberg is worth 5 billion and has 7 kids.
Al Pacino is worth 120 million and has 4 kids. His oldest is 34. His youngest is an infant.

@randomnyss2011

You are not problem solving in the right way, and you need to think outside the box. The problem isn't ambition, the problem is hyper competitive capitalism that robs people of their lives. I worked at a major mining company at an entry level job, everyone was over worked there from top to bottom because of poor management which kept human well-being at the lowest priority. And no not every woman wants to be a CEO, but want to feel that she does not have to beg money from her husband .

@georgeyoung92

Bad management has always existed; many companies have high turnover and dont care. Regarding begging, if a couple does not agree on how income is allocated before marriage, they have a serious problem and probably should not marry; making a good budget is not complicated. I agree that a good work environment is important but dont blame capitalism if it is not. Top management should know and care about how the lower management performs, other than the bottom line, but the linear bureaucratic system is inherently unproductive. Supervisors simply dont supervise and react only to crisis situations. Some highly competitive jobs and job sectors are inherently not pleasant, create negativie environments.@@randomnyss2011

@Tusitala1967

Louis' intelligence is only matched by her ability to convey her knowledge and thoughts in easily comprehensible speech. She exemplifies the title of the show: Modern Wisdom. This was a great conversation. Thanks Chris!

@samsamtls1218

I love the people you choose to interview. Always balanced and interesting viewpoints.

@WarrantChen

Wow, what a breathe of fresh air when a women talks about modern dating in a logical and statistical approach with zero intent of throwing either groups under the bus. We need more of these women in the front lines talking about societal issues.

@Saberdud

Those women who do not tow the sisterhood line will get slandered and labeled pick me, you can't deviate from the hive mind without consequences.

@amandaforrester7636

​@@Saberdudif you're not called a pick me, you're called "unhealthy" or a "prude". I've said many of the things she's said.

@Feraeond

She's definitely still selling men short though. Even if selective correlations of low testosterone and low crime at certain times in certain areas wasn't falsely seen as causative, as opposed to something like low self-control from bad upbringings for example, it still shouldn't even be a question that reducing society to complacency through the destruction of male ambition and innovation is not a worthwhile tradeoff.

@hyperteleXii

Deviating from a self-destructive hivemind has constructive consequences.
Yes, there will be pain in the short-term. But at least you'll survive EXTINCTION.
Might be worth considering.

@amandaforrester7636

@@hyperteleXii extinction? Interesting choice of words.. I'm 36, single, childless. I want a family but can't get past a 1st or, at best, 2nd date anymore, because men have the same expectations as women, that you will throw yourself at them quickly "if you really like them." Sir, how can I know you after only two dinners that only lasted a few hours??? No, I should've been a single mother. At least I'd have a child.

@peternewman7940

Yeah another magic interview from this series! Louise Perry is great!

@KK-rj7ij

She makes so many good points. Loved this interview

@Neuroszima

and how can you understand her speed and mumbled talk?

@KK-rj7ij

@@Neuroszima She is Bri-ish. I do not agree with everything she is saying, she is not speaking for me, but she makes good points.

@jfenton61

Loved this! Have just ordered your new book

@danphillips3730

She's got such a nice voice

@Kubaaano

You two have GREAT chemistry. Such a good interview

@AudreyWineland

The reason for drop in lgbt acceptance is that messaging went from live and let live to being endlessly pushed and shoved onto people. And the line kept being pushed into ever more ludicrous territory. Plus No tolerance or grace in the other direction. Even kids and teenagers got sick of it.

@hieug.rection1920

It followed the exact trajectory the Christians said it would. Live and let live turned into trans and pedophilia real quick and eroded the family and societal morality. Almost like it’s happened before in Greece and Rome! Weird that!

@transitionsnc

Completely agree.

@MC-dn8if

Being straight is now an act of teenage rebellion

@gumdeo

The true nature of the movement is being revealed.

@grannyannie2948

I agree. Homosexuals are 3% of the population. And yet today they make up 30% of every movie, novel or TV series. There's nothing left for heterosexuals. I think if the same sex marriage vote was repeated in my country, knowing what we know now, it would be overwhelmingly rejected.

@peterchandler9014

For me this was full of a wide range of great insights put forward and in most cases discussed in a healthy in depth way which is literally stacked with golden nuggets of wisdom and awareness to allow us to understand how the social and society understands or reflects and lives within todays society. I particularly enjoyed the way louse Perry has a wonderful way with her authentic genuine and warm personality which adds to the enjoyment of learning. Thank you for this and will absolutely watch again to pick out more of what is included which as we all know we can miss . Top video

@ivangutowski

Stunningly engaging and well informed interview, absolutely fascinating !

@simonjohansson1497

Something i observe in day to day life, we get more selfish day by day.
Social media and how we work and think, is making us more the same but at the same time dividing us.
Its scary

@joshbriggs8803

This was a delightful and informative discussion. Thank you!

@andyevans8585

The idea that women make better employees in the office is interesting. I'd love to see the study that shows this as in my experience this is largely not the case. When a company has an equality target (which many do nowadays) I often see women promoted simply on the basis that they can do the job to a basic level, and will help the company hit their target, rather than them being the best candidate for the role.

@georgeyoung92

Affirmative action in government agencies is mandatory quotas now; the incompetent advance way beyond their level of competence while quality men eventually leave.

@SeveredLegs

Or maybe it's that women tend to be more agreeable, or that they're attractive to be around.

@andyevans8585

@SeveredLegs  I would argue that women in the workplace are not more agreeable then men, in fact quite the opposite. You see men's disagreeability is tempered in the workplace by how competent and commited they are. If as a man you are highly competent then part of that (in managment at least) is being able to communicate effectively and therefore this is a natural barrier for those men that are essentially incapable of being agreeable. However when your main drive is to hire a woman because of equality requirements it becomes a basic standard of competence and then about the fact that they are a woman. The sad fact is that the sex of the applicant should have no bearing at all on whether they are consider the best candidate but is often the definitive factor.
I say this as someone who has worked in senior management for over a decade and had to deal with these rules. It's not just sex, it's ethnicity as well, but sex is far more "important" when considering these factors from a company perspective.
I should add that it was a female manager that started me in my professional development towards management and some of the best employees I've had were women, however those women earnt their place and worked hard for it. I'm not saying women "cant" do the job, but I'm saying that when a company HAS to promote a woman, then it diminishes the value of the work that woman put into her career as well as the men who were passed up on. And sadly the woman will never know whether she was the best person for the job or just the right sex

@UltraChongkak

I would even argue that, in the workplace, women are being subsidized by men. When a male employee grinds out a multimillion dollar contract he doesn't get a penny over his wage. When a DEI HR woman drives away five high performing men, she loses not even a penny of her wage.

That having been said, women dominating HR is more likely to be the driver of female success in the workplace.

@larsvegas1505

@@UltraChongkak Woman dont want to see other woman succeed though so i dont mind it being all pretty girls in HR working parttime.. I like talking to them as a man. Having a woman manager is another thing.

@steveouk90126

500 men can tell a woman exactly the same story on why they're not marrying. And 500 times that woman will cry, "That's not true!"

@Arven8

How dare you! 😆

@zackjones5942

Excellent episode - one of the best I have watched from Chris.

Enjoyed the discussion around chaos and societal acceptance from 1:21:00 and onwards. Adam Curtis tackles this issue in his documentary Hypernormalisation. "Chaos" is much more prevalent than many people would like to accept, hence ludicrous conspiracy theories and the "It's God's will" or "the devil is responsible" thinking being so prevalent in society today. We should be more accepting of the fact that we are in an unimaginably huge and complex world (and universe) and some things just happen with no explanation or greater director/actor at play.

@brandonguzman2757

good coolaide!

@patrickgrolemund545

I think this may be the best/male female podcast ever. Really fascinating. Dan Quayle was correct when he said family values was important.

@batinsse

Really insightful and useful episode. I watched it a second time with my wife and it triggered a deep conversation that lead us to take the decision to have a third child. Thank you Chris!

@randomaccessfemale

Great news! At least you are contributing.

@anthonyhowrard526

I`m adopted and my Mum and Dad had already 5 girls and 1 boy!
We have lots of Nieces , Nephews, great Nieces etc. big families are great apart from the cost of Christmas presents.
My Mums attitude was/is is that you always find food for an extra mouth.
Good luck to you ALL!

@markb2478

Louise Perry is brilliant. 👍

@Ra18To

That X-Box part got me crying xD
Not to smaller the intellect of that awesome conversation, but that just caught me of guard...
AMAZING talk! Fair and square, met on eye level which is rather rare on "spicy topics". Love it!
BTW: 1:15:40 I'm from Germany and I've never heard about this before. I'm pretty positive that this is wrong information!

@mkbanks73a

I find it interesting that we blame the institution of marriage and not the people married. Marriage requires those in it assume maturity, selflessness, and regard for the other which are traits not seen in our society at present. So what we really have are people who cannot rise to the standards of marriage, not that marriage is outdated or no longer necessary.

@Andrea-zm1nl

Thank you! This is what I've been saying for twenty years. The people who are eighteen to twenty-five, are less and less mentally and emotionally mature than ever before in human history. This is why marriage fails so frequently and why there are so many children in single parent homes. So thank you.

@xazarl3381

@@Andrea-zm1nl nah up to 35 or 40 not 25 lol.

@moldyzucchinis3251

Very well said and sums up an inkling I’ve had for a while. My wife and I never stop evolving to be better for each other. Marriage is about effort, responsibility, accountability, reliability, and selflessness. I’ll be the first to say I fall short in all of these regards, but I will never stop growing and becoming better. From what I see in the world today, others don’t want to do that reflection but rather be accepted however flawed and rigid they are.

@ronfalk1175

Well said!

@jelkel25

I think because of the reasons you gave marriage needs to be changed from it's current form. Something needs to be done to reemphasize the seriousness of the course of action being taken before, not after. Perhaps both parties sit down with separate lawyers and negotiate the contract with real consequences for breaking it? Do the hard-nosed real world stuff first and then get married in the eyes of God or however suits both of you. This would at least wheedle out a few bad actors and those who don't really have a clue what they are doing.

@DingoAteMeBaby

I like how this almost feels like a serious conversation at a coffee shop. Incredibly deep topics, occasional whispers

@redjacc7581

Fascinating stuff, seasons greetings to you both.

@paulpallante3394

This was a great conversation. Thanks!

@ajtaylor8750

The reality is that marriage is still useful in modern society, but we as people have made it seem less meaningful and valuable. Some couples rarely ever take their vows seriously, we are easily influenced by agendas of independence being pushed on us, and the rise of OF, sex having low market value, and the promotion of polygamy and polyamory has made monogamy look like a joke.

@LarsBjerregaard

This was brilliant!

@SirShiv7

Women acknowledging we've gone too far and women actually actively doing something about it are two very different things. I think most women (over the age of 25ish, i.e. not a current brainwashed college kid and approaching/ past the wall) acknowledge our society has gone overboard with sex positivity, but aren't willing to shoulder the responsibilities and self control that come along with changing it. In short they demand they get to have their cake and eat it, too.

@asdfasdf-te8oc

Yes. The 🧱 is an excellent teacher...

@Aerdellosi

Or it just makes them bitter and they go and ruin other, younger women. I think for the millenials that'll probably be the case.@@asdfasdf-te8oc

@chipsteve

Of course - they're FUBAR for relationships. You can't unsleep with people. For women, it's irreversible damage to their pair bond capacity. So of course they "won't take responsibility" for something that has damaged them forever.

@murat9268

@@chipsteve They live today. They will endure pain future. They won't take responsibility, they will feel the consequences in the future. Women do not look for good men for anything, will look for them in desperation after her 30's. Problem of this paradigm is loneliness is more painful to women than men.

@famov666

The women that marry, have kids, and have a generally positive outlook on life are "doing something about it" in exactly the way that should be expected of them. As are the men that marry them, of course. It's a two way street, because men also need to take responsibility for their role in the modern dating landscape. If you want quality, be quality. Those men that aspire to decency are likely to find a similarly decent woman that's worth their time and effort. Those that don't inevitably pollute comment sections and message boards with assorted bro-science about "pair bonding" and "hypergamy" in between 15 minute sessions of hardcore porn, all the while thinking that the women of the world collectively owe them something because all that swiping on Bumble hasn't quite worked out the way that they thought it would.

Between the dusty cat ladies and the untouchable pornfiends, the solution to our dating woes necessitates far less resentment and finger pointing. It requires we take responsibility for ourselves, build ourselves up, and make an honest attempt at meeting the sort of people that we want to spend our lives with.

@L.A.W.Studios

Bravo! ...for both of them knowing & repeating the essential message of 1 towering intellect, Thomas Sowell
*There are no true solutions, only trade-offs"

@devonpendergast6803

I cannot stop listening to her voice and her logic and they are both excellent.

@jacobgardner4793

This conversation depresses me. I have tried really hard to start a family for 7 years. Hasn’t quite worked yet, and it is so scary and I feel extremely disposable. Even if it were to work…I am not sure that would be a good thing at this point.

@CloudyWolf713

Everything alright?

@NoahBird-rs7fq

you're not disposable, keep your head up i hope everything is okay

@mfanakithi2002

Love these conversations man. We are waking up it seems

@Steveuser-fv1wt2cb3u

Great fact based interview. Well done.

@zutty69

1:04:58 As a man who chronically assumes women aren't interested in me, it's disheartening to hear I've actually been overestimating their interest this whole time.

@Pezerinno

😂😂

@WomenKilledChivalry

We're in this boat together buddy. And I actually believed when a few have said they thought I was cute or charming. Its all just niceties to avoid hurting feelings, doing us a disservice more than anything else.

@Randomlad56

Amen brudda 🫡🤧🥂

@SaggyGerbils

Great discussion, very insightful

@TheDevilK

That description of all the conflicting marriage and relationship styles was very interesting because I feel the same way. Never heard It described that way before.

@sophia-logos5348

Good interview thanks Chris. A suggestion for a topic to include on female (and male) beauty: To what degree is physical beauty about your physical body (esp for women), and to what extent is it a person's use of their face. Thinking of a favourite male actor of mine & contemplating what makes him particularly attractive is how he uses his eyes - he really seduces the camera with them, his great variety of gorgeous smiles and half-smiles, his terrific range of other facial expressions (very animated, very expressive). I teach at a girls' secondary school and notice what difference certain smiles can make to a girl's attractiveness. So perhaps - having talked about men and women not reading each others' social signals very well, could you explore this topic soon? Of course there's also that stuff of university studies on which male faces appeared to be more attractive to women, esp the less angular, traditional male facial structures....... A further comment: I'm sure that a sizable enough proportion of women do not fit into this silly "manicured nails; fake eyelashes; botoxed; designer bags" etc etc, vapid female type. When I was at university, no woman studying Science I ever met wore makeup (think late 80's to late 90's). This even continued into the research PhD, or female academics in Science. The Humanities may be the same.... I was/am often proud of us that we saw no need for such fussy feminine practices. The only time I wore makeup was the odd occasion I was going out, but not plastered on. Thanks again! :)

@mienmiennn

wonderful interview thank you

@MoivinSulunker

This is so informative.

@DarthRadical

My sister (a Catholic) has told me that there's a word for women who use cycle tracking as birth control. That word is "Mom".

@ChickFenwick

We need to keep birth control. And improve upon it.

@glassjester

My (Catholic) response: That's supposed to be the goal.

@gasma113

😂😂😂

@Jikrin

​@@ChickFenwickNo one will ever improve it because big pharma benefits from all of the medical detriments.

@DarthRadical

@@glassjester As she has 7 kids, she'd likely agree. (She's a doctor - so she knows the math. And they can afford 7 kids.)

@rcurriden2

Excellent talk; fwiw, in teaching my own daughters, what I've always told them is to not advertise services they are not selling, a group is only as strong as it's weakest member, and assume the message sent is not necessarily the message received. Maybe not the most pc teaching, but it kept them sent.

@ambermedl6212

I think her book is great and I am a fan of her. So, I'm not totally objective. 😅 Anyway, thanks for this interesting conversation and having her on the podcast.

@eduardandar7705

I found this discussion interesting, imbued with a kind of compromise you can rarely see, but sometimes the arguments seem to overly rely on current data rather than consider the problems in a way that allows for progressive thinking and societal change. The arguments are fairly articulate, though, and their position seemed quite open to the possible counterarguments, so I enjoyed all of it.

@sUmEgIaMbRuS

Such a wonderfully civil and intelligent conversation. A glimmer of hope in the general darkening of public discourse. Please never stop making these!

@Krichnu

Yeah because they are not zoomers you will see how bad it is in the future

@sUmEgIaMbRuS

@@Krichnu Oh, come on! I've heard plenty of boomers and gen X-ers, and millennials perpetuating toxic discourse. Assigning all the blame to zoomers is exactly the kind of thinking that I mean by "the general darkening of public discourse" and what I praised Chris & Louise for not taking part in.

@joshanonline

It sounds intelligent, but anyone that has knowledge into this can see all the bs being spew. That woman, for example, is Projecting a LOT of things she believes or feels onto what other people might be thinking or believing. Things she doesn't know, things she has no data on and things she is completely incorrect. And she's supposed to be an expert.
I bet there are some videos debunking this around. I rather watch those. They might actually have data to back claims and not just biased interpretations.

@Krichnu

​@@joshanonline Dude you really are making a fool of yourself. You assume without evidence that she has no data and then you proceed to say that you "believe there is a debunking video" so that means you don't know anything about the subject since you need a debunking video that doesn't even exist.

@doctorspook4414

Really good talk!

@ariesstage2188

There are no solutions, just trade offs.
Sounds like life in a nutshell. Great conversation!

@greg.ocallaghan

Thomas Sowell

@kathycoleman4648

@@greg.ocallaghan Yep. You beat me to it. :)

@ericjames7819

Women expect to choose what they want without there being any consequences. Not trade offs.

@abaddon1371

It is just a rephrasing of "when you choose one thing, there is another thing you didn't choose" And of course there are solutions. It depends on the situation and the question. It is by no means a catch all phrase.

@emperorsean1

So what exactly is the trade off for men who can't get laid or meet partners?

@FreddieFirth

This is so cool, she seems so smart and well spoken and I'm learning a lot!

@FreddieFirth

But your ad breaks are always so jarring, I always feel like I'm being screamed at and have to skip haha

@darkaction123

amazing woman , wish her all the success

@chippychick6261

I love the breadth and depth of this conversation. Just so much. Such insight and mutual respect. The one topic that totally surprised me, however, was that of pedophilia. This will be on the front pages of all forms of news and opinion pieces fairly soon. I don’t think the general population will be as kind as these presenters were here.

@user-pu2yy8xd9x

I do agree though, even (of course) though I find pedophilia disgusting. Who would choose that? It's like choosing to be gay 20-50 years ago, when the world was against you. No one would choose that.

@nikolaypetrov9789

@@user-pu2yy8xd9x
even community of pedos is divided.
when most people think about pedophilia, they think about horrible rape cases. and rape is bad regardless of age, so it has nothing to do with only children.
most of pedos want to love, not to hurt children.
most of the pedo forums are actively banning hurtcore(rape stuff) and even helping to take down such stuff. but nobody gonna talk about that, society only acknowledge worst parts of that community.

@robreid6195

Fascinating discussion! I love how Louise visibly takes about 3 steps back sometimes before framing an answer.
Louise' point about technology being the main engine of change is a conclusion I reached some years ago. The social stuff follows.

@lordjaraxxus3864

As a man, I can confirm that hints do not work on me. All of my relationships have started with the girl or her friend telling me they are interested. I have never approached a stranger in a bar either.

@anthonylulham3473

Oh I don't see subtlety either.

She's smiling at me, guess I'll smile back. I'm glad she's having a nice day. leaves

@noazucar519

I’ve never been a fan of dating on the apps, but it’s become so prevalent. I was literally on Tinder for a week and then uninstalled the app. I didn’t like the feelings I got from it. I’m glad I was able to meet my partner organically.

@ronnie5329

Is it because you are unable to see the intention of ppl that you match/write with. As me, as a man, dating apps left me feeling invisible, so I am most likely average looking. I am however very good at making women interested in me, if I meet them in real life.

@kintsugi571

I left dating apps because even though they damaged my self-esteem and even though they wasted my time, I became a little addicted to them, they created desperation in me and that desperation attached me to them. In apps, what most women do is collect attention either from those who really want to know them or from those who want to have sex with them, sometimes the women find a guy they are very interested in there, this women think they can create reciprocated love between them through sex, it doesn't work and this women get frustrated. Outside of apps, these toxic behaviors are not so common.

@jayjaydubful

If used well, dating apps are a wonderful development. Meeting people organically simply doesn't happen for most people, especially once you are passed peak dating/meeting age or are widowed/separated/divorced and perhaps are more limited in your social life through having children.

@ronnie5329

@@jayjaydubful Depending on the dating app, its almost mostly good for women in their 20s and early 30s and good looking men, at least in terms of opportunities. The data will show you that.

For women it can be hard to filter and see who is serious, so its not all sunshine and rainbows. And it can give them an urealistic idea of who their match is, when there are some of the biggest horndogs who is good looking, who is dipping in to avg looking women pool to have easy sex. Around 20% of population have this extreme sex drive, so they are on there for that.

@kintsugi571

@@jayjaydubful Many users are toxic and on the other hand I have almost no matches because I guess I don't attract attention, it does not seem that I have the option to use the app well or badly, for me it is simply a waste of my time. So I guess some people can know people on dating apps and some people don't. I know many men with an experience like mine on those apps, those apps are a waste of time for the average man, the average man hardly gets a conversation and if you do it will most likely end in ghosting. It's no one's fault, it's just that in those apps most women receive too much attention and most men are invisible, I understand that reality works like that, but it's more exaggerated there... so for the average man those apps are just as useful as having 24/7 audio telling you "You are invisible, it is not worth it for anyone to know you, you are an average man and therefore you will be just as visible as a homeless: invisible" @jayjaydubful Enjoy that you can achieve something positive with those apps, but don't say that everyone can do it because it is simply not true because many of us do not have that possibility. I understand that many people are worse in life (like homeless people) off so why complain, I will live my life as I can and of course stay away from those apps

@RageKroc888

This was great, even though you and Louise are of similar mindsets and educational/political leaning, it is good to see people (any people at all) having these discussions and realising we're all just big ole dumb hairless apes trying to get by. Thanks for helping folks of opposite genders see some common ground Chris and Louise.

@davdep

We talk our selves in circles , it's very simple. TV and social media are the biggest factors in influencing young people especially young women

@happytime2781

1:23:15 his theory about body positivity is on point ! It's especially makes sense when You think that woman often avoid saying or doing things directly instead prefer pulling strings, giving hints, making plots...

@Cookies205

Louise is a great guest

@maximilianstauder6408

Thank you for this truly open constructive conversation. As a german (male) student this feels like someone opening a window and letting fresh air in my mind, when so many students and professors are slowly digging their own wholes with their constructs and rules for moral behavior and thinking.

@captainobvious-CH

I actually listened to the entire interview. Yes, I’m very familiar with the material, but some of the points were developed in interesting ways and I did learn some new things. e.g. about the female sexual competition and haircuts. Overall, it comes down to the fact that if the world had really been designed and hadn’t blindly evolved, I’d vers much like to have a word with the designer 😂
As a society, we really can’t have our cake and eat it, too. One of the most baffling things are the choices women make now that they seem to have achieved so much - choices which entirely undermine all this new-found freedom and influence they enjoy. Such as supporting the import of millions of men from patriarchal societies where women don’t have any rights at all…

@lordvader6378

Yeah that's a good point

@chrismount8793

overly collaborative natures

@markeasley6149

The section on mating ideologies is quite profound. Mismatch of our expectations on love marriages, economic partnerships, and value add of a partner and how it can grow or diminish over time is causing a ton of hesitantcy for this generation to understand and commit to what they are seeking. Many of us have been programmed / brainwashed with Disney fairytales, hollywood, MTV and many other media on how it is supposed to be (unattainable perfection) but deeply conflicts with the modern paradigms.

@markeasley6149

Her anecdote on pickup culture being a GenX thing that was popularized in a pre-internet age and very abnormal behavior for humans is also good commentary.

@georgeyoung92

And the deliberate failure to discuss personal goals and expectations leads to failure. Weddings are the symbol of dishonesty.

@Henrybailliebrown

Very interesting interview and arguments!

@Djwhynotlove

I got veneers and hair implants the last few years for my 40th birthday. Dude BEST DECISION EVER! Bitch all you want, I am so glad I did it. No more receding hair line! I have hair down to my shoulder, the way I would have had it if I wasn't loosing the front line of my 5head.
Veneers. I had buck teeth with shorter teeth beside it. I finally have a good job and I researched the pros and cons of veneers. I got 6 across the top front and I can finally smile genuinely. That's all I'm doing and I'm thankful i took the opportunity when it came ❤

@ahtoshkaa

This is a fantastic podcast

@donovandunlap8560

I never thought about it that way. If you have one woman who is of normal weight and fitness (in shape) and you have her best friend (female) who is overweight, technically both females are in competition for men. If the fit woman encourages her best friend to embrace her weight, that then pushes most men towards the woman who is in shape and eliminates her friend from taking the men in their community.

@knightheaven8992

Perhaps but i think those weight body "positive" movements, exists more to placate women insecurities then anything else.
(basically cope)

I mean i never seen nothing of that in relation to men, last time i checked there wasnt male plus sized models for magazines... but there is no shortage of female plus sized models for magazines.. which are changing their tune because they lost tons of money trying to push for those body positive agendas.

@esterhudson5104

Yup. Women area woman’s worst enemy. Always thought so. I choose female friends very carefully.

@daikatarokamegawa542

Why, yes, that's how it should work in THEORY. But in practice, what with Lizzo being a role model, nowadays, the "body positivity" movement actively glorifies obesity, and claims being fit and taking care of yourself is an act of hate and discrimination, because "you hate fat people so much you actively work to not look like them".

So in reality, the obese friend will just resent her fit one, for not wanting to let herself go.

@hd-xc2lz

@@daikatarokamegawa542 Doesn't alter the scenario of the obese friend's self-satisfaction with extra weight leading more men to seek out fit girlfriend.

@samanthahenshaw9434

It's interesting to hear of another perspective of the impacts of modern birth control. Though I would still say there are many benefits to it to. Found this to be a really interesting video, often on both sides of the fence these convos end up ludicrous, it's refreshing to see a more reasonable take

@ravenXO

1st time watcher. this was absolutely fantastic discussion. I enjoyed the truths the perspective and the accuracy on so many points made. More ppl need to have these talks.

@witoldschwenke9492

That part about 1:18:00 about hormonal birth control is so important! I never thought about that. Who knows what this did to our society

@billywillyjilly

Pretty cute when Chris didn’t know what “Goop” is and she didn’t quite catch that he was lost.

@sparty837

The massive expense to men of getting married is crazy, the ring, paying for the wedding, the honeymoon etc. Then in a few years the women just divorces them. The cost benefit is no longer there.

@joeadler5379

I agree but the good thing is that most men only about 10% will have a prospect of ever being married..

@AtheismF7W

It's a bad deal period and common sense. Over the last 300 years, men have gotten more or less of the same, or LESS from marriage. Whereas women are getting more, in the form of legal rights (specifically in relation to marriage) and general opportunities.

@nattypatty3667

Don't forget women expect you to contribute more financially even though they work to so they can spend the money they earn on material things like clothes, hand bags, makeup, nice cars, etc. Marriage in the west is a joke.

@sumairshirazi

exactly 💯

@brent4073

If you are a man, seriously, do not pay for anything for the wedding. Just tell your gf to get off birth control and move in.

@motohead9266

This was great. Subscribed.

@mr.grimms4645

This woman's voice is so soothing

@esterhudson5104

Perry’s comment about the trans person being dependent on the kindness of others is very interesting. Being cared for either by the state or other, via the self imposed victimization and chronic need for attention that attends it, (of transitioners in this case) is the really the motivating factor to be different. It puts in you in a minority bracket which, in America, entitles you to extra protections under the law. The victim mentally eventually segues into an “exclusivity”, and thus rare, and then…finally, SPECIAL.

@MoivinSulunker

The owner of the musical store told, to me, that folks no longer buy many guitars. Music of the sign Libra. Planets were passing through Libra through Gen X. From Gen Y onward, planets were passing through Saturn's signs Capricorn and Aquarius.

Saturn is associated with the spectrum involving chastity. Libra and the sign after it are both signs of sexual relationships. Through gen X. Now playing of music and sexual intercourse are out, while chastity is in.