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@castoresnegros

1y↑7

What a great sense of humor you your self have.

@iainmelville9411

1y↑8

Thanks for another great instalment of the kids epic tale. Always a pleasure to here your voice. You sure do spin a great yarn.

@WildWestExtravaganza

Thanks for listening

@jonkeathley3772

1y↑3

Josh i can't tell you how much i love getting to hear the story of Billy the Kid in the way only you could tell it!! Your the man so keep em coming and i owe you a coffee or 3

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑2

Thank you Jon!!!

@dannysimmons3167

1y↑3

Thorough and entertaining as we have come to expect.

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑1

Thanks Danny

@dannysimmons3167

1y↑1

@Wild West Extravaganza spoiler alert. In young guns Terence Stamp was 50. John Tunstall would’ve been 25. Quite the age gap

@WildWestExtravaganza

Shhhhh....intro to next episode

@dannysimmons3167

@Wild West Extravaganza oops

@johnnieplageman9145

1y↑6

Excellent as always sir! It always has amazed me how Tunstall always has gotten such a pass, when in fact he was just as much of a crook as Murphy and co were. It’s just that Tunstall wasn’t around long enough to implement his plan.

@laurashropshire57

1y↑1

Right? I'm just a nobody who reads a lot, but imho Tunstall was pathological, fixated on his sister among other things, and his parents probably sent him to Victoria to get him out of the house.

@aricksundberg5546

16w↑1

Thank you fine Sir for yet another amazing production of wild west extravaganza

@WildWestExtravaganza

16w

Thanks for listening

@thebanjooutlaw

1y↑2

Looking forward to the rest of the Kids coverage here! Nice presentation Josh!👍

@wk4max

48w↑1

brilliantly reserched, im a big fan.of the Wild west extravaganza! ,,liked.and subbed mate ,MAX..Liverpool England

@WildWestExtravaganza

48w

Hello England!

@scothammond5736

1y↑1

Another awesome episode

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑1

Thank you, Scott

@scothammond5736

Thank you, dude. I've got a boring job, and your Billy the Kid shows made tonight fly by.

@snappers_antique_firearms

1y↑2

Once again great show Josh

@WildWestExtravaganza

Thank you sir

@johnnapier1892

50w↑1

Love your podcasts! I didn't know they made double action revolvers around Billy the Kid's time

@carywest9256

22w

Yeah, they did!

@Orygunner67

1y↑3

Fun and informative as always! Thank you Josh! 🤠

@WildWestExtravaganza

Glad you enjoyed it!

@McDanielRanch

1y↑3

Glad ur doing one on the kid I live in billy country.fam been here ranching since 1870. I heard that it wasn't a lightning or a thunder but a rainmaker the unicorn of colt double action. But idk highly unlikely.

@wadetaylor1299

Rainmaker ?

@McDanielRanch

1y↑2

@Wade Taylor 32 colt double action around 300 made.

@wadetaylor1299

1y↑1

@Brigand's Barracks o alright I have heard of it didn't know he may used one thanks bud and for refreshing my memory on that piece 👍

@McDanielRanch

1y↑1

@Wade Taylor I know if it did ever show up and could be tied to him it probably be a 2 to 3 million dollar gun. But like I said it highly unlikely.

@wadetaylor1299

@Brigand's Barracks right it would be a big price tag ya never know could show up but doubt it. Thanks for sharing that again I never heard that had heard he had lighting or thunder sum say a peacemaker also.

@ryvisla6827

23w↑1

I love all the “Young Guns” references

@johnbyrd7400

40w↑2

"I'm not sure in what capacity but I'm pretty sure it had something to do with watchin cows sh*t," this is probably my favorite quote from this channel and the funniest way I've ever heard a cowboy occupation described. Stay sober and kudos on the channel. Love your episodes so keep em going. You have a knack for bringing history to life.

@WildWestExtravaganza

40w↑1

Thanks! I stole it from Larry McMurtry

@johnbyrd7400

40w↑2

@@WildWestExtravaganza well, original or not. I'll remember it from you. It's a good one 👍

@nathanielgreer2764

1y↑2

If I ever find myself in a situation where I am going to be hanged I am going to spend the last day drinking as much water as I can. When the time comes I’ll request to not to wear a hood and when the trap is sprung I’ll leap vertically. The extra fall combined with the additional water weight will hopefully be enough to pop my head off and give the crowd a show to remember. Yeah. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this.

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑1

Haha

@jasonpelto1164

35w

Brilliant!

@vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse

1y↑1

Ye-haw!

@andyrewpantah94

40w↑1

i saw a .41 thunderer at the town of lincoln museum. who it belonged to i couldnt say but it was a beautiful piece and i now want one badly

@noirtec9

1y↑1

Oooh yeah.

@rdavid2992

1y↑1

Howdy Josh, great episode. Wasn't there a photo of Billy recently authenticated? He appeared to be at a social function. I'll see if I can find it but I remember there being a big deal about it after it was authenticated.

@WildWestExtravaganza

Howdy RD. Thank you! I emailed you back but just to answer here as well, that croquet photo hasn't actually been authenticated...at least not to the best of my knowledge. I'm going to try to put out a short episode this weekend or maybe on Monday that will explain more.

@SchoolBusTalk

30w↑1

Thanks for the excellent coverage of the Lincoln County NM. Did religious prejudice and hostility between Protestants and Roman Catholics play a factor in the Lincoln County War? Being that many of the players were immigrants or first generation from Ireland and England.

@WildWestExtravaganza

30w↑1

Nothing I found pointed toward this so I'm not sure. Maybe though

@SchoolBusTalk

30w↑1

@@WildWestExtravaganza It seems probable to me since McSween is a Scottish surname and Tunstall was English. Dolan-Murphy gang being Irish might have carried hostilities from the old country. It is interesting that they used the name “Regulators” for their gang’s handle. I believe that title comes from the English Civil War where units of the New Model Army used the same name.

@GG-jw8pt

43w↑1

The people protested so much they hung him! Why am i thinking of Monty Python? 😂👍🇬🇧

@jonahhex8178

1y↑3

Ok, hear me out.
If we're going to entertain the whole vampire thing, I think, considering Billy's close proximity to Roswell we're gonna have to consider whether or not he might have been an ET.
Not saying he was an alien, but it would explain the whole small hands thing. 🤔

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑1

Honestly I thought it was just a given

@jonahhex8178

1y↑2

@@WildWestExtravaganza 😂

@captainsparrow5615

1y↑1

Where can I find the episode on on Old Jim Miller

@WildWestExtravaganza

Patreon

@captainsparrow5615

@Wild West Extravaganza ok

@stephenbutterfield

1y↑1

Do you have any documentaries or podcasts that help me understand the psychology of people at the time?

@WildWestExtravaganza

Hmmm, not off the top of my head

@tims.3950

1y↑1

Bonney means attractive or dashing in Scottish use. Maybe that was appealing to young Billy?

@thegreyrat

1y↑1

its a war of land & egos, have we not learned anything ? in war we all loose, we al loose

@jimmylight4866

36w

Lose. Not loose like a bolt.

@usualsuspect5173

36w↑1

If Billy got that photo taken at the fort there had to be a photographer there right? So it's not unreasonable to think there could have been a photographer there when he was killed? Yes/no? Even Tombstone had a photographer at the time ..

@WildWestExtravaganza

36w↑1

The population of Tombstone was 2000 verses not even 300 in Fort Sumner. Also, Fort Sumner didn't even have a doctor, much less a photographer. Per Paulita Maxwell, it was a traveling photographer and he took Billy's picture in front of Beaver's saloon.

@usualsuspect5173

36w↑1

@@WildWestExtravaganza ok, got it, thanks

@WildWestExtravaganza

36w

No prob

@thegreyrat

that said, enough land

@josefonseca6144

1y↑7

Most people don’t know this but New Mexico is the only state in the US that has a bilingual state constitution and all official state laws and edicts have to bilingual as well.

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑2

I didn't know that, very cool

@bogartoutlawclan9592

1y↑2

OK, you've won me over. I'll subscribe. I'll just have to get over your pronunciation. If you just pronounce Washington correctly I'll be satisfied.

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑1

It has an R in there somewhere

@middleamerican4673

1y↑1

Lol, Owen Wilson

@terrioestreich4007

I always thought that Billy looked like he was a mouth breather, so possibly had a lot of allergies. If you are a mouth breather, you end up getting a very small arc of teeth and your jaw gets long. And there is a popular photo out there with a few men playing cards and some wonder if the young guy with the top hat is Billy the kid, he has a big long jaw also... I have zero opinion on that but I think that it is possible

@2MS47

1y↑1

Robert Casey is my grandfather

@noirtec9

1y↑2

As much as I want it to be, its not a thunderer in the picture. It's definitely some type of old army style grip. Billy supposedly had a thunderer when or around the time he was killed and I went and found one just to have the same gun as Billy. Had 50rds of 41 colt brass made so I could load some bkackpowder cartridges and shoot it. Anyway the birds head grip drops away at a pretty fast curve, that gun is way too straight and looks much larger than a thunderer. Also the cartridges in the belt look a little skinny and long for .41colt. But maybe those are for the rifle I guess.

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑1

Ah thanks!

@noirtec9

1y↑1

@Wild West Extravaganza anytime. So there were 3 more tin types out there somewhere or they came in 4 packs so to speak? Time to hit the garage sales!

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑1

There were 4. One is owned by a collector, one destroyed (I think in a fire?) and no idea about the other two. Good luck! $$$$

@thebanjooutlaw

1y↑1

I’ve read that one of them Garrett had acquired for his book to use to present a likeness of him… seems the thinking was that Garrett threw it away afterwards. Can’t remember who’s copy that was supposed to be… Deluvina, and Dan Dedrick, were also who I’m aware through my research that got copies… also have read that one was destroyed in a house fire as well. The world may never know for sure!😁

@tecumsehcristero

14w

Billy the Kid was an Irish Roman Catholic from 5 points NYC so I highly doubt he had an Protestant ancestry

@WildWestExtravaganza

14w

Actually the idea that he was born or even from NYC is unproven. It's a decent guess but nobody truly knows where Billy lived prior to Indianapolis in the late 1860s. Interestingly enough, when Billy first officially pops up on the radar it's in a protestant church. The First Presbyterian Church in Santa Fe, New Mexico to be exact where his mother, Catherine, married his stepfather William Antrim. This is the fist time Billy's name is found in print - Henry McCarty. He and his brother are listed as witnesses to the wedding.

@tecumsehcristero

14w

@@WildWestExtravaganza really? You have just blown my mind sir.
I have always heard him and his brother’s names were found in a baptismal registry in a NYC Catholic Cathedral.

@davidrudd9846

1y↑1

I dont know if its true or not but some years ago I read that the kid was goofing off when the tin type was taken

@WildWestExtravaganza

1y↑2

Nobody knows but he probably was. Or the flash caught him off guard.

@coffeeNTrees

19w↑1

billy broke bad. happens to many good men.

@blackheartkoda2269

1y↑2

@colleenbonniwell4226

Oh found Bonnie surname

@colleenbonniwell4226

Good one... some called him Billie we called him Bonnie

@colleenbonniwell4226

Missouri family ....theater people

@juanantonioleal5371

Belle Star gave Bonnie that nickname

@stevep4574

Does anyone know what Billy ate?

@mysteriousdave9257

1y↑1

Lead, Pat Garrett fed it to him.

@stevewheatley243

Food.

@soulrebel6309

1y↑1

I would guess Mexican food..he loved the Latinas so I'm sure they were cooking for him

@El-American-USA

50w

very likely he ate huevos rancheros for breakfast with flour tortillas and beef or chicken tacos for snacks , for sure he ate lots of beans at every meal

@stevep4574

50w

@Francisco Salinas I don't think tacos were around yet

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@JohnSmith-gb5vg

26w

Interesting “Billy” in the picture is not wearing spurs, boots don’t seem dusty either, face does not seem sunburn as would if he wore that hat riding.

@WildWestExtravaganza

26w

By your quotation marks I would assume you don't believe that it's "Billy" in the photo?

@JohnSmith-gb5vg

26w

@@WildWestExtravaganzawell per your superbly investigated post has detailed, he’s in Las Vegas, a minor celebrity, in a town that had photographers as early as the 1820’s, in a jail, totally open to questioning and photographing by the press. Yet in a smaller town, he, just on a whim, poses for a photo. As well, you’ve found out, the photo does not match descriptions in dress or physical stature. But, as you’ve pointed out repeatedly with this young gun, “the truth is as murky as the red river during spring thaw” . Don’t think you actually said per sec, but I could hear saying that. Cause your in Texas…. A Texan… I think…. 🙄. And you like tacos…. But who doesn’t…. And who the fuc waits for Tuesday?! 🧐

@WildWestExtravaganza

26w

@@JohnSmith-gb5vg So because there's no known photo of him from Las Vegas the one from Fort Sumner is fake?

@bobbiburger4015

51w

Program j listened to said McSween
Used the $10000 to build his house

@WildWestExtravaganza

51w

What was the program?

@bobbiburger4015

51w

@Wild West Extravaganza if I remember it was on one of All Things Billy The Kid.

@WildWestExtravaganza

51w

I'd love to know their source

@shock_n_Aweful

he prob liked a sugar loaf because he was small. It would make you look taller.

@WildWestExtravaganza

According to the records he wasn't that short for the time. 5'7 or 5'8 if I recall. He may have picked it up from his old friend Sombrero Jack

@stevewheatley243

1y↑1

Latina chicks like lottsa thing's.😁

@grayman556

37w↑1

But Josh Sam Jackson has a stutter and he is as cool as cool gets.

@scothammond5736

1y↑1

Another awesome episode

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