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cortical1

2y↑5

Hey man, I really like this series! I'm fortunate to be in a position in life where I can blow more cash than I deserve on hardware, but I'm riveted to these comparisons out of intellectual (and musical) curiosity. I also think you're providing a real service to younger people, artists, and engineers about how and whether the trade-offs relate to the differing costs for individuals. I always say it: You're doing musical science. Cheers.

MixbusTv

2y↑1

🙏🙏

Kaiser Soze

2y↑2

This plugin is freaking amazing when you do a stereo bounce with the SSL Six super analog mixer then blending that stereo signal in parrallel with the SSL stereo image plugin to get that huge sound using the CH OUTSIDE THE SPEAKERS preset to get that SSL Fusion color is very subtle but it works perfectly when you have a good mix and looking for that extra humph

Daniel Tufano

1y↑1

In AirPods the plugin was actually amazing on the vox I can’t hear what your hearing on the speakers with the drums but to me on the vox the plugin is killing the hardware,pretty incredible tbh, im gonna get the plugin just for the vocals I wouldn’t want to spread the kick and sub anyways doing this over a whole mix seems a bit strange to me ✌️ thanks for the vid

Ricky Spanish

2y↑8

Didn't like what I heard when I demoed the plugin when it was released and still don't like it now. sounds above the head and artificial. I prefer Mathew Lane DrMS or Leapwing Stage One by a long shot. The hardware sound way more natural and elegant. Thanks for the comparison David ! 🤘🏻

Wilson

Great Comparison! Thanks DAVID :) If I listen in Mono it seems that the hardware boost the lows in the Mid signal a little bit and compensate the Side spread (higher frequencies) to sound more natural or like you said more 3D but actually the Mid signal with the plugin is more like the original Mid signal of the track (in Mono).
Overall its pretty close and I guess recreadable with other plugins as well. For me personally not a reason to spend 2 grands but the Vintage Drive is definitely something to think about :)
I hope the next comparison is the SSL Bus Comp Plugin :) cheers

Source Compile Studios

Pretty big difference, but sounded pretty good distinct which would be great on some tracks. Listening on Genelec 8351B's and its night and day. More top sheen on the plugin, hardware has a more natural width to it. I like the Ozone Imaging plugin myself with different bands, and use the Neve MBP Portico II to add a little stereo widening and depth also. Thanks for the vid.

Thomas Tran Dinh

2y↑10

If you take every separate module "small" difference but add in series like they're supposed to be.. and put them up against the HW, it will make a huge difference ! And if you buy all the Fusion plugins, it's already 1000$ only half way to the HW... The conclusion of this series (really cool btw) will probably save up for the HW 🙂

Target

Great to have before purchasing the HW.

Gives you this workflow and flavour directly from the source.

Also, if you are lucky (like me) you’d notice each of these plugins have been on sale for $34.99 USD each week. This is on sale now. EQ

massivebeatzz

2y↑1

yea, and also expensive.... 1000 bucks for all these plugins - SSL trying to outsmart customers...Just release ONE plugin, the mimmicks the ONE Hardware....wtf! Might as well spend 2K for the box.

Reinaldo Herrera

a couple of them are on sale right now! 50 usd each. let's hope the other one will be on sale too in the near future!

MixbusTv

2y↑4

Yep

cortical1

2y↑1

I have and love the Neve Master Bus Processor, and I've seen your videos on it, which were really informative. Perhaps it's too much like comparing apples and oranges, but I'd love to see a comparison of different hardware on these kinds of stereo field effects. They really seem to have broadly differing colors and capabilities.

cortical1

2y↑1

@massivebeatzz I'd still argue that a comparison of two different brand hardware units for stereo field effects, which is what I suggested, is apples and oranges, but could still be interesting. I'm personally not as interested in the hardware to software comparisons from the same company (like David did so nicely here), but I know this is quite useful for many people.👍🏻

massivebeatzz

Shouldn't be Apples and Oranges. Should be Apples and Apples. SSL makes the box and the plugin series. No excuses. They know what they are creating. It's a money grab, nothing more.

cortical1

@MixbusTv Oh right, I recall now that I think you got it around the time you got the Fusion and decided to keep the Fusion. I know you already have Neve color from other units. Cheers.

MixbusTv

2y↑2

I don't have the MBP, i tried it, off camera, cool unit but not for me.

Zen

2y↑3

Would love to see a Distressor comparison, maybe against the slate or softube version :) nice peace of gear for sure

Jay

There's already a Distressor by Softube review from David. I think it's called Softube Empirical Labs collection or something

Bon Tempo

2y↑1

Yea, only works at some settings. There are a few plugins out there that could do this job as good as this hardware and go further with added features. From what we've heard so far, the SSL plugs being sold individually is a bit of a rip-off. They would be better off selling one plugin that is the entire unit, and at a 'normal' plugin price.

Donna S

1y↑1

Yeah solid state are greedy bastards no doubt

Patricio O

Hello, very good series of videos. I wish you could make one of the SSL Fusion Transformer and the compressors, I love your opinions, they are sincere and professional. Thank you,

Renaxelo

the conclusion is when it comes to plugin it will be more exaggerated, less center and flat. when it comes to hardware, it will be more centered focus while still maintaining the wide effect, also the front and back more properly placed.

Prod By ThatGuyFace

Great video. The EQ and Image is on sale right now so im gonna grab em. Thatd be dope to see all the plugins compared to the HW in totality.

Andy Eirich

2y↑1

Genre to Genre the plugin didn't do everything I expected, the hardware did a better job, I'm surprised

Rob

2y↑1

thanks David for comparison-I still happy with my analog Fusion . and if we talk analog I have a hardware question as usual :) - if u looking for a mb compressor which one will be ur pick and also on digital side ? Take care and see u soon . Best |R|

MixbusTv

2y↑2

If I was to get a hardware mb that would 100% be the tubetech, software I wanna say McDSP

Peter Bond

2y↑1

Good comparison! For sure the plugin sounds... much more phasey

P Cru

Clear difference. But the plug-ins have there purposes. I can appreciate the budget of the SSL plugins if it’s a financial situation I would say it’s good practice for the real thing. SSL has a monthly situation and although the HW clearly is the winner. The ability to practice and take gigs to work your way to the real thing I think is a good start for the engineer working hard towards that goal. Good video as always!

Bimas Jr.

I was still undecided if buy it or not the plug (even cause discount in these days) but after your test probably I won't take it. It's really audible the difference between them especially how the hardware keeps the mono in front, more presence. Its' not what I'm looking for I'd say. Ciao ;-)

Patrick Alphenaar

2y↑1

Hmmm the Focus on the HW is awesome! Dont need to concentrate were the sounds are located, while the plugin gets a bit blurred because of phasing i guess. So its not a simple “Gain” of sides, as there are loads of plugins can do that. To me something interesting also happening with the HW. Not on all demos that obvious but on some its pretty nice tho. Cheers

Vagenda

2y↑1

at 5:40 listen to the snare. When you switch from the plugin over to the hardware - I feel like the snare suddenly sounds like it is in a bigger room, and is a little warmer. Anyone else hearing that too?

Red Spark

plugin sounds wider but also less natural. I expect other plugins probably do the job better. I don't think I'm ever going to get sick of 'no sunshine' though :D

Clinton Maher

Hi David, just finishing mixing my band's album and would like to try a small amount of stereo width adjustment... Minimal. Can you recommend a good simple plugin for this? Ozone imager? I don't like how this fusion one sounds. Thanks.

Clinton Maher

@MixbusTv Great thanks

MixbusTv

2y↑1

I like ozone yes

Alan Dović

Great channel! Please do video with all the modules engaged. I'm this close to buy hw Fusion, this would be helpfull :)

Gerardo Merino

Hi David, Thanks for the video! How does this plugin compares to the Ozone 9 Stereo Imager? Which one would you choose at the same price? Tks in advance!

Gerardo Merino

@MixbusTv That one. Thanks!

MixbusTv

2y↑3

If you're talking about the multiband, ozone all day

Wolffish

Hi David, Im going to buy my first hardware box for my master bus. Im torn between a Ssl fusion, Tegeler Creme or The 5254 from Neve. Been ITB now for many years so where do you think i should start? Thanks a lot for your videos, they help me big time ❤ br
Rune

Wolffish

@MixbusTv thanx

MixbusTv

2y↑1

Start with the Creme

Jay Rosé

The hardware unit sonically sounds better. Seems like it does a 3D lift

BassElectronicTV

2y↑1

David you need to compare the new lindell sbc vs the api 2500 hardware, seems like it's the closest ever made

MixbusTv

I don't have the 2500 anymore, I sold it years ago. Compressors are still big wall for plug-ins tho, I'll release a video on the actual science behind why it is

Herbiarz

What do you think about API Channel strip for vocals? I mean mainly for rap.
I think API can give so much natural air for vocals and un-mud them on recording stage.
On internet It's so poor tests about this one

MixbusTv

2y↑1

It's great

RobMitshi

I'm liking the plugin... I feel the hardware is more sensitive, and subtle, it's hard to choose...

troeteimarsch

11:45 I love this crumbling sound after the clap so much

Dino's Channel

I am loving it :)

EnervatedSociety

The HW is obviously superior but only audio nerds care. For the average listener with in ears/mp3s you can just use a Target toaster. Probably run you about 12$ on sale. 😁

MixbusTv

2y↑6

I'm sure you didn't see my video explaining in how many ways what you just said is so wrong. The only people who don't care are actually those who want to believe the audience won't hear the difference, the same people coming to my channel asking why their mixes and masters don't sound like they want or like the commercial products

Under Pressure

Great content

Mic Delgado

We're getting near to the conclusion that the Hardware is worth every single penny and investment. But you know of course we already know that! 🙂

Gaudinni

Thanks David!

Eric Torres

2y↑1

First one ! I’m sure the hardware is going to be my choice again lol great videos though .

Live To Sing Music

I trust your videos

Lorenzo Vidali

Yes I’m liking the series

Ras T Dubflex

13:08 song fire

Zyx Yuv

The hardware is useless for this.

MixbusTv

2y↑1

@Zyx Yuv I'm not sure I follow you 😄 you said the hardware is useless, now you're saying the plug-in

Eric Torres

@MixbusTv 🤣🤣

Eric Torres

2y↑1

@Zyx Yuv the whole point of the video series is to compare the hardware to the plugin version of the unit . Where you been ?

Zyx Yuv

@MixbusTv The problem is with this specific plugin, not all imaging plugins. There's other stereo imaging plugins better than this one.

MixbusTv

2y↑3

🤦😂

Precision Sound Works

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Алексей Вискалов

OK Video !!!

Bō

Should we use it so ? You said previously whe should not to much use mid/side stuff, I 'm LOSTTT !!

Bō

@MixbusTv thanks for the answer ! Ok i see ! What I have to do is to recognize situation where this is needed, so train my hear to understand a context when this type of tool can solve the problem but not added it by default because in my brain i say to myself, that's always better with it ! Really thanks for you're time !

MixbusTv

2y↑1

Too much water will kill you. If you're looking for absolutes in this field you're always gonna get the wrong answers from people who don't know better. Context is everything and so is details because this IS what audio is. I said don't use mid side processing by default in mastering. Context (mastering) and action (by default or too much) I didn't say don't use it. Understand what a tool does, understand that nothing is inherently good or bad it all depends on context and amount, when, how and why

Delian ron

Ssl plugins are suscks

Oscar Fisher

Hear no difference from my cell phone tho

MetalSuicide

For what it’s worth, the difference he was speaking of in the center channel
Being less dense and focused is apparent even in a cell phone if you are listening
Carefully :) but yea…. Stop listening on a cell phone