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The Kindled Flame
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The one who Is Many
@Nemo Error Here you have the proof that Gwyn didn't banish the Firstborn:
The events in the Artorias Of The Abyss dic take place 300 years before the main story(Myizaki interview)
Gwyn sacrified himself to the first flame 1.000 years ago (dialogue with Frampt), and Quelanna also says that her mother and sisters have attoned in pained for the creation of chaos for 1,000 years. The Japanese even implies that the birth of chaos,and Gwyn's war against the Chaos Demons were after the war against the dragons,very early in the age of fire so Gwyn was already dead in the events of the dic
There is a broken statue of the Firstborn in the undead burg, and thanks to the
"Oolacile is Darkroot in the past [Dark Souls DLC time-travel shown side-by-side]"
video by Illusory Wall,we learn that the Undead Burg was build after Gwyn's death and the Artorias Of The Abyss DLC, and you don't build a statue of a person who has been exiled and his name has been erased from history just to destroy it a few seconds later, the Firstborn wasn't yet exiled at the time of the DLC
So, if Gwyn didn't banish the firstborn, who did it? I think one candidate is Lloyd, Gwyn's uncle, and there is why:
He was the only person with enough power to do such a thing (he was the head of the Way of White, the main religion of dark souls world, he was like the pope)
After Gwyn's death the Firstborn became King of the Gods: in japanese is more clear that the "inherited the sunlight" part in the sun's firstborn ring description means "inherited his father powers and title because Gwyn died" (check Hawkshaw's video on japanese translation). And the lightning storm miracle description in ds3 reads "the former KING and War God tamed a Storm Drake"
_In japanese Lloyd's title is not Allfather but King of the Gods, so he banished the Firstborn and then he took the throne for himself, that's why the description of Lloyd's sword ring says "Lloyd was a derivative fraud, and the Allfather (King of the gods) title was self-proclaimed.
TM3000
The lore in these games is incredibly circular. Hence the name, Elden Ring, or the iconic ring the knights have in Ringed City, or the dark
sign etc.
Anyways, it started off with archdragons and archtrees, and it looks like it will end that way. Because even though Lothric has many connections to Gwyn, and even though the royalty was meant to link the flame, they spend their time instead either resisting the linking of the fire, or else allying with the dragons and trying to turn into dragons. After all, the king of lothric has a dragon child and is basically turning into a dragon. There are so many knights making the path of dragon gesture and meditating on Archdragon peak.
I think that after living for centuries or millenia as undead, they're looking for some means of escape. So some of the undead in Londor are seeking some type of salvation in awaiting a hollowed ashen. The people of Lothric are being devoured by the heritical teachings of Aldrich and Sullyvan, or otherwise turning into trees themselves. And the knights and royalty of Lothric are seeking a return to the old age as being reborn as a dragon.
So no doubt with the dark returning, those people who grew into trees from old age will develop into arch trees... And those knights will finally complete their transformation into dragons, eventually.
And them dark souls 1 will restart :)
Ali Youssef
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The Worst Catholic
People love to rag on Gwyn, but he was actually a very benevolent king. Instead of wiping out humanity(And let's be real, he could of in his prime.), he gave them a sort of purgatory. Instead of killing Seath after the war, he not only rewarded him, but did so with the highest of honors. He repeatedly gave his power to others even when it wasn't necessary, like the four kings. How often do you hear about the man with absolute power, sharing that power? He made Gough one of the four knights, showing he was really racist towards the giants like many of lord's race were. Not only that but he was more than willing to sacrifice anything for his people, his kingdom.
He sacrificed not only his nigh absolute power, but his life for it. One doubts he knew what the age of dark would entail, I mean, not even the pygmy's did. It could be all sunshine and rainbows for humanity like the Darkstalker says(Though I would doubt this as Dark Souls is rarely that black and white), it could be like the abyss where even humans are consumed and corrupted, or it could be something else entirely. After all, remember what happens when the flame starts to fade? The world literally seems to implode in on itself, so the age of dark may just be that, literal nothingness. He was the ruler and protector of his people, wouldn't you do anything to keep your poeple alive and safe? Rather than give up for the uncertainty of nature.
People love to state that nature is strictly good, but it's really not. You know what else is natural? Super Volcanoes, Tsunamis and Earth Quakes, rampant diseases and more. Just because it's the way of nature's chaos, doesn't mean it'll be a good thing.
Now I'm not saying he was right, nor am I saying he was a saint. But he's not some evil asshole like many seem to try to paint him. He was a great king, a noble warrior and marytr for his people, until the very end.
SS
That’s not what being benevolent means….
Seath betrayed his own kind and helped Gwyn annihilate his own race; it’d be almost like Moses helping the pharaoh destroy the hebrews, so why wouldn’t Gwynn choose to reward Seath’s act of service? If Gwyn did not reward Seath, he would’ve made Seath his enemy. Who then, would ever choose to support or aid Gwyn knowing that this great lord punished the scaleless dragon after helping him depose the previous overlords of the world?
Seath, traitor to his own kind, was rewarded for his service to Gwyn. The same applies to humans, for the knights of the ringed city served alongside Gwyn to destroy the dragon. Would it have been wise of Gwyn to start another war of destroying a threat to his regime after fighting the dragons, and having to marshal his forces to fight Chaos? He chose to reward the humans for their service, and then backstabbed them by making sure that they would be chattel for ensuring the continuation of his and his family’s rule. That is not benevolence, that is called being pragmatic.
Gwyn gave some of his power to the four kings the same way a southern plantation owner might delegate the oversight of all housekeeping responsibilities to one of his black slaves; “sharing of power”- what is this? We’re giving him a gold star for learning how to share? There is nothing to be said about the presumed righteousness of a lord, who endows some of his powers to just 4 select members of the human race who have chosen to collude with Gwyn and his regime in order to further cement their own status as lords amongst their own kind.
And Gough? Again, Gwyn rewards people who SERVE him well. Such is the nature of a lord and a king. A king who won his position by bloodshed and conquest, and then secured it by making intelligent political decisions. His act of self sacrifice in the end was to preserve his FAMILY’S seat at the foremost position of the paradigm he had created, and whether other species such as the humans or giants benefitted was of an absolutely secondary nature to preserving the age of light / the age of lords.
Gwyn was a menace and demagogue. He likely had no idea of the entire consequences of his actions, but he knew what he was doing when he decided humans would be the primary source of kindle to keep his race’s era going.
Gwyn was a good king, but a good king does not make for a good man, and a good king does not mean he was good to others; for example, the Mongolians look to Ghengis Khan as a national hero, but the Chinese, Tibetans, Persians, etc. for obvious reasons do not celebrate him as such.
And yes, while “natural” does not inherently mean that it is “good”, it’s important to remember that Gwynn’s decision to shackle humanity to his age of fire is the exact same thing as slavery. Slaves aren’t all miserable, but are we going to argue that the institution of slavery is not morally wrong? Gwynn forgot to ask the humans if they wanted to continue his age of fire and be the sacrificial fuel for its maintenance. Instead, he imposed it on them. Such is a lord-
A lord who created a cycle of untold suffering to ensure that his children would be lords over men..
Carl John Gallardo
@The Worst Catholic To ensure that HIS will and HIS alone, will be remembered by the masses, a few nitch here and there, you know, like how a politician nowadays make their names to be known through projects and the like with their names plastered all over the place,
"slavery" didn't exist in their medieval concept, and yes they themselves, the "gods" did acquire power of the first lord souls it did made them the one that leads, that kind of thing, but no, the slavery didn't exist on their world/universe whatever you want to call it, Gwyn plastered the concept and was like "oh we are greater beings, whether you like it or not you will serve us."
Oh and yeah about death? It seems that you didn't get the message, I even placed parentheses in there to emphasize my point,
before Gwyn's time, people die normally, without the curse of the undead and all that shit, until he got the idea that heroes and like that have braved countless battles (murdered creatures that may, or may have not interfere with their business) can be used as a good fuel source, along with his "I am the way, through me you can be saved" shit, self sacrifice and all that so HE WOULD BE REMEMBERED AND ALL HIS WORKS WILL BE NAMED AS LEGACY.
don't be to emotionally attached to his dramatic boss fight ost, go past that, and you'll see he's the same as every politician that went "for the good of the people and all that shit."
Imagine having people that do die normally, be raised again as undead just to satisfy his "PRAISE ME IM A GOD" ego.
benevolent huh?
heh
fourth knower
Something that occurred to me just now; in Dark Souls 2, the Old Iron king is said to have inherited Gwyn's soul.
HIs kingdom is established with the aid of a trusted individual.
But the king is short-sighted, and becomes focused on ensuring his own continued reign.
In time, the one who helped the king establish his rule turns on him, and leaves. Some of the king's own knights go with him.
Another part of the cycles of Dark Souls, or coincidence?
Lupes
Love all your videos! You've helped me understand what's going on in all of the seki-blood-souls games. I don't think I would have enjoyed multiple playthroughs as much without your "insight".
I've been playing The Surge 2 recently and was curious if you had a chance to try out the series. It builds off of the souls formula with just enough different to keep it feeling fresh. Has a large focus on gear and leveling that continues through multiple playthroughs. Set in a gritty more industrial type apocalypse.
I would love to see your take on The world, and what hidden information you can find in all the item(mostly weapons and armor) descriptions since I don't have time to read everything myself. The game is fairly short compared to any of the souls games, but replayability is high.
Just thought you might be interested if you're looking for something to do before Elden Ring comes out.
P.S. Can't wait for Elden Ring. The Hype is real!
Frenchy
Gwyn to the Nameless King : U N A C C E P T A B L E
Also Gwyn to his daughter Gwynevere : Here, fuck this dragon.
Rusty Chan
not canon btw
Blue Wind
@elevate07 father i freaking told you to do that and you broke a great sword on my head for this .. TwT
David Borcea
@Bob Bobsen it does
Bob Bobsen
@David Borcea nothing changed so it didn't age at all
PurPurSpyro Homer
@Lye Batenkaitos, of Gluttony completely agree with you
NicolasM
" The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown."
Gwyn was rather human it seems...
dificulttocure
As the gods always are.
An enemy stand
Not just fear of the unknown fear of being forgotten. Gwyn would rather burn himself to ash than let the world forget him and his age.
Éfar Isti
@The one who Is Many that doesn't sound like a enviable existence. And the First Flame jjust burst out of nowhere?