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Battle of Five Studios
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@Brabbel93

I have had this theory for soo long. Then I watched the Appendices where he keeps reiterating that it was HIS idea to make three movies and I just felt a tinfoil hat growing out of my own head as I was like "You're lying! Everyone makes mistakes and yes, some decisions you made on TWO TPOWERS and RETURN OF THE KINGS were dangerously close to becoming dumb epic action fluff that would evolve into the bloated video game stuff from the Hobbits...but you certainy can't be THIS mad!"

Then Lindsay came, made these videos and confirmed my conspiracy theories.


TBH I have similar theories regarding THE LAST AIRBENDER. Admittedly I am biased because I am, like, one of 3 Shyamalan-fanboys but I see that he is not perfect and I can totally understand why many people dislike some of his trademarks.

But even if I keep that in mind, there is stuff in AIRBENDER that doesn't make sense even for Shyamalan. And the most important proof for me is the fact that he was sooo stoked about this project. He loved that show and his first script was basically just a rundown of the whole show with each and every episode.

So yeah...I truly believe that Paramount and Nickelodeon fucked him over. WOuld he have made a LOTR-level masterpiece on his own? Probably not. He is still Shyamalan. My favourite director, but flawed as hell in some regards nonetheless. But he wouldn't have made something THIS bad. So many scenes feel like obvious reshoots. Maybe one day someone will make a similar deepdive into that movie's production like Lindsay did with the Hobbit. Hopefully



@martinzhang5676

In brief the reason is "patriarchy". The power structure in most societies tended to favour men over women. The reasons of this is manifold and hotly debated but some of it had to with food production and childrearing

For most of Western history (as this isn't universal in all societies), political power and wealth were seen as exclusively male things. Women couldn't own property or hold high office (or vote once elections became a thing). They were tied to the home. Therefore men tended to play the active role in stories while women usually took more passive roles, even when they are the protagonist.

Until recently literacy rates were lower among women than men so a lot of classical literature wasn't written by or for them. People tend to like to read and write about people who are like themselves. People also tend to hire people like themselves, which makes it difficult for women or minorities or poor people get a foot in the door in industries dominated by rich white men.

Even when female writers emerged on the scene they were often stigmatized and confined to perceived "female genres" like romance novels. There has been historical exceptions of course and things are improving but the delineation still exist.

Stories told by men, and a small group of men at that, had a disproportionately wider reach than stories told by other groups for thousands of years. It's no wonder that their stories are seen as universal while stories told by women and minority voices are seen as niche.



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@alexmanning9961

God that interview with John Callen broke my heart. That's exactly what the movie should have focused on... The dwarves and the relationship with Bilbo.

@doll_dress_swap1269

I was so confused why, with three movies that were hours long, they apparently didn't have time for any of the core relationships between characters in the book. Like, so much great material just handed to them on a silver platter. But no, we need to focus on video game like battle sequences and random characters who have nothing to do with the primary characters.

@celticandpenobscot3971

This makes me think of that appalling ad bromancing up The LOTR. That was another band of brothers, with a core membership of two. The treatment of gays is an urgent matter now, as it was around the original publication of the LOTR, when the great computer scientist Alan Turing committed suicide. But Tolkien's legacy is no place for these arguments, and sexing up these characters just does the audience a big disservice.

@CabezasDePescado

focus tests are scum, so are test audiences/screenings

@iLuvvYuuMjxXxLia

Alex Manning agreed. This really upset me. What a let down the Studio was to everyone involved in this project.

@davek5027

Fae-Adventures This! Couldn’t have said it better!

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@SovietWomble

24:10 - God damn, if that's true, then that's probably the perfect example of why "tone at the top" (the acquisition of smaller companies by massive ones and then seeing upper management decisions seep down and influence the product) is so detrimental.

The people making the decisions are not always creatives. And storytelling is the arena of creative people.

Therefore, Warner suits entered an environment they were not prepared for, and metaphorically got their asses kicked. In this case, seeing a story that had no love-triangle and shoe horned it in, thinking they knew best.

The worst part is, I doubt any of them will read it as their mistake. They probably looked purely at financials. And lacked the experience to recognise their own inexperience.

@darknight991

I love the part where after a new Womble video drops, you find him commenting on things in his YouTube recommendations he’s been trying to ignore for months.

Shine on you crazy diamond. Shine the fuck on.

@darknight991

(I am also experiencing trepidation about the Rings of Power, Womble. The algorithm led me here too).

@hayberdasher8625

studios don't want creative, they want money

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