The Paladins are a San Diego-based trio formed in the 1980's. The band is … Read Full Bio ↴The Paladins are a San Diego-based trio formed in the 1980's. The band is best known for their high-energy rockabilly sound, but a sound their own, built on country, early rock & roll, blues and jazz. This distinctive sound has earned them shared billing with the likes of Stevie Ray Vaughan, Los Lobos, X, The Blasters and The Fabulous Thunderbirds. The Paladins are: Dave Gonzalez-guitar & vocals, Thomas Yearsley-upright and electric bass, Jeff Donovan/Brian Fahey-drums.

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The Paladins Lyrics

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Some people suffer all their lives never really happy
No matter what they try
I think we're lucky with what we got
It doesn't take much money to have what we got

And I don't believe we're fooling around
I don't believe you're putting me down
I don't believe you mess up our lives

By telling each other lies

This life we're living
It ain't so bad
We never really fight
We just get a little mad
And all these problems
Ain't rough they say
The tough get going
When the going get tough

And I don't believe we're fooling around
I don't believe you're putting me down
I don't believe you mess up our lives
By telling each other lies

I konw you love me
I love you too
There's nothing in this world
I wouldn't do for you
Let's stay together
Through thick and thin

And I don't believe we're fooling around
I don't believe you're putting me down

I don't believe you mess up our lives
By telling each other lies

Overall Meaning

The lyrics to The Paladins' song "I Don't Believe" express gratitude for the simple things in life, and refute the idea that happiness comes from worldly possessions or a particular social status. The singer acknowledges that some people suffer their whole lives despite their efforts to find contentment, whereas the singer feels that they are fortunate to have what they have. The singer believes that they are not deceiving each other, nor are they trying to tear the other down, and rejects the notion that lying to each other could ruin their relationship.

The song suggests that life isn't always easy, but it's not as bad as it seems either. Although there may be some disagreements or conflicts, they aren't insurmountable, and it's possible to work through things together. The singer also looks at love as an essential factor in their life, and states that there's nothing they wouldn't do for their partner. They want to hold on to each other for better or worse, through any rough patches or temporary hardships.

Overall, the song's message is one of appreciation, honesty, and steadfastness in a relationship, renouncing the idea that material possessions or societal status should be looked upon as a defining factor of happiness.

Line by Line Meaning

Some people suffer all their lives never really happy
There are some people who are unhappy for their entire lives despite trying different things to find joy

No matter what they try
Even if they put in a lot of effort to find happiness, they are never successful

I think we're lucky with what we got
We are fortunate to have what we have in our lives

It doesn't take much money to have what we got
We don't need a lot of money to be happy with what we have

And I don't believe we're fooling around
I believe that we are sincere in our relationship and not cheating on each other

I don't believe you're putting me down
I don't think that you are insulting or belittling me

I don't believe you mess up our lives
I don't think that you are causing problems that affect our lives negatively

By telling each other lies
By being dishonest with each other

This life we're living
The life we have together

It ain't so bad
It's not that bad after all

We never really fight
We don't argue much

We just get a little mad
We might get upset with each other briefly, but it's not a big issue

And all these problems
Difficulties we encounter in our lives

Ain't rough they say
They say that the problems we face are not that difficult to overcome

The tough get going
Those who are strong and resilient keep pushing through

When the going get tough
When things get difficult

I know you love me
I'm aware that you have feelings of love for me

I love you too
I also have feelings of love for you

There's nothing in this world
There is nothing that exists

I wouldn't do for you
That I wouldn't do for you

Let's stay together
Let's remain in a committed relationship

Through thick and thin
Through good times and bad times

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Written by: Dave Gonzales

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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

@rompevuevitos222

2y↑106

Paladin is really good, you get a lot of abilities that leave a bit to be desired, but you're still getting a lot of functional features
- Lay on hands is one of the most powerful heals in the game and essentially a better second wind. No dice rolls, you just heal as much as you want or cure conditions
- Paladin spells aren't even necessary, but they give a lot of utility, like detect magic, find steed, shield and zone of truth
- You get proficiency in all the gear because why not
- Immunity to some dangerous status effects in an area AND immunity to diseases (if you DM tends to ignore this then speak up, cuz it's not ok to just invalidate a feature like that, for that they should just tell you they don't run the feature ahead of time)
- A d10 hit dice because yes
- Fighting styles
- And free damage in the form of smites, because they tought the amount of features also needed the ability to deal disgusting hits that ignore most resistances

Sure you have to abide by a tenant, but as a warlock you need to make a pact with an otherwordly being, clerics have to follow their god's alignment, sorcerers need some special background and wizards need to have a certain amount of studies. I like to think of tenets as a balance point for Paladins

@thod_2306

47w↑1

-Lay on hands is the most versatile heal in the game
-Divine sense is great if you’re looking for basically anything
-The spells are mainly support, not damage
-Smites are great
-AC and HP are great
-Fighting style was completely ignored
-You don’t really need to focus Con like the video showed
-The channel divinities are mainly great
-The auras are HUGE
-Frightened can be absolutely crippling
-Wdym “your DM isn’t experienced enough to run enemy spellcasters” but then they are experienced enough to run Tiamat????
-Smites hit Tiamat
-Not reaching the powerful level-20 abilities is by no means paladin-exclusive

All comments from YouTube:

@bobsmith7066

2y↑2.6K

I would just like to note that since divine smite is an ability not a spell, you can still smite Tiamat to your heart’s content.

@warlockfangirl

2y↑253

You can divine smite and eldritch smite on the same attack, in addition to a smite spell. An Important Addition

@SeismicHammer

2y↑92

Also while raging

@respectfulevil9022

2y↑64

You can also smite while raging

@sirnonsense5033

2y↑61

Not to mention that radiant damage almost counters/works on everything in the monster manual.

@killskill9391

2y↑34

@Sir Nonsense And in addition smite is even more effective against certain monster like Undead (so you're a Lich-Killer) and Fiends (oh: look wich random, very powerfull monster falls exactly in this category).

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@wikilast9975

2y↑2K

I hate to be that guy but divine smite is technically not a spell so it will still work against limited magic immunity.

@Dani-ew8fc

2y↑76

Divine smite op. Any nova build worth it's salt will bring it

@joaosoares-rr5mj

2y↑108

i dont hate it, i want to be that guy, he also taught that if you had your charisma below 10 you couldnt use divine sense, but you can kus it has a minimum of 1

@Spiceodog

2y↑4

@Daniel Monroe just with regular casters though, it’s best spells are concentration, so make sure you got enough bless slots before you go blasting

@Meun

2y↑9

Hate to burst his bubble but limited magic immunity isn't in vanilla 5e

@Spiceodog

2y↑31

@Isaah Chretien-Murray actually it is. The rakshasa has it

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@deathkillkong5388

2y↑105

"Your constitution won't be high enough to concentrate on spells"

Laughs in aura of protection

@willlauzon3744

27w

I was wondering about that. I'm building a paladin. I am going for a more Quigon jin approach. He's a lot more flexible I would hope

@J4kuZZi

24w

Exactly.

@CreationsFlare

2y↑1.7K

Instructions unclear: I am now marching off into the sunset reciting my oath loudly and proudly, staying vigilant for any wrongdoers.

@thekiller1296

2y↑39

This is the way

@nathanfivecoate5848

2y↑25

This is the way

@deimos39

2y↑21

This is the way

@bman296

2y↑18

This is the way

@dojolei7159

2y↑17

This is the way

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@justnoob8141

2y↑477

Blaine: If you have minus modifier then no Divine Sense

PHB: Clearly that you hadn’t actually read it

@WhyYouMadBoi

2y↑26

Like who would play bard with a negative mod its stupid, half thought out gimmick

@JQBOOM

2y↑34

Actually he's right, it does not say minimum of 1, which plenty of other class features explicitly state. Though the likelyhood of a charisma caster not having good charisma is pretty low.

@SwordKirby110

2y↑5

@Jacob Brockhaus Tell that to my paladin who's highest stat was 16 in Con with a 14 Str and a 12 in Chr. On a full caster, not a chance but on a half caster or third caster it's very much possible.

@gildedphoenix

2y↑5

@Shivermist110 that's viable until level 6, but after that, your lack of charisma will hurt A LOT MORE than you think.

Your paladin acts like it's a Fighter, not a Paladin.

@SwordKirby110

2y↑2

@Coşkun Akalın Hey, I didn't exactly have much of a choice.

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@RenoKyrie

2y↑566

If a Warlock can have a Gun as their Hexblade Patron

I dont see any problem making a Paladin thats pretty much Doom Slayer from Doom

@TheGreyKami

2y↑24

The Paladin with levels in Artificer

@LucanVaris

2y↑33

To be fair, taking a one-level dip into Hexblade Warlock fixes a number of Pally problems. Your melee attacks are now based on Charisma (meaning less need for Strength), you get a powerful pew-pew cantrip, in the form of Eldritch Blast, and you get a spell slot that can be replenished during short rests, which can be burned on a quick smite, if necessary.

@dovakiin296

2y↑9

As opposed to Doom Slayer from that hit kids show, My Little Pony.

@lavasqrl702

@The8bitRegalis What did you just say? warms up my d̶e̶a̶d̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶u̶r̶o̶t̶o̶x̶i̶n̶ Eldritch Blast

@schizophrenic_rambler

Persona!

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@theforgottenranger

2y↑366

"Did you really think you were going to have enough ability score points to keep your stats strong enough to be viable?"
Hexadin being SAD on CHAR: "Yes"

@TheFoxfool

2y↑31

Taking one level of Hexblade is better than the level 20 of any Paladin subclass. Then you only need 15 Str for Plate and can dump anything that's not Con or Cha...

@aprinnyonbreak1290

2y↑14

@The Foxfool
Or go 13 Str and 14 Dex.
That way you get better initiative, and only lose 1 point of AC.

Also, grabbing Warlock 2 after Paladin 6 is probably a good idea. Invocations are pretty clean. Agonizing Blast alone makes the Paladin a perfectly fine ranged combatant, and the extra pact slot from Warlock 2 is handy.

@TheeOK1

2y↑10

@Kain Tugwell-Fisher or just use a damn finese weapon. Simple as. Now you can dump strength, get high initiative and ac, along with relative dmg numbers on average. Better if you're a warlock, now your burst is more dependable.

@aprinnyonbreak1290

2y↑9

@OkayConstruct
Buuuut then you gotta pump Dex AND Cha, while still needing 13Str, and needing decent con.
This poor Paladin is even more hopping MAD than it was before, and your tears will fall like waterfalls with every +1 Dex that doesn't touch your AC, 'cuz you're still wearing medium armor.

@TheeOK1

2y↑7

@Kain Tugwell-Fisher except that you don't need heavy armor to get comparable AC. Scale mail, a shield, and the dex cap gives you 18 ac level 1. same as chainmail at the start. Cast shield of faith before a fight or as a bonus action, congrats you have 20 ac for both sets of armor. Upgrade to to half plate for ~~no disadvantage on stealth and~~ an extra ac around level 3-4 (should have that much gold by then) and you'll have 19 ac, or 21 with Shield of Faith. Not considering +1 to +3 magic items you'll probably have access by level 5 through 10 and you can have an ac of 22 to 24 with SoF (23 to 25 with defense fighting style)

Now I'm not gonna lie, heavy armor does scale harder than medium, especially considering SoF, but it takes a while for heavy armor to take off due to the price and the power swing is comparable between the two with it being 1 to 2 points between another, especially considering that higher ac gives diminishing returns. Probability and all that.

Basically I made this rant to say heavy armor is kind of a joke w/o the heavy armor master feat and you can easily get into those numbers with items and a single spell slot that's only bonus action; meaning you can still multiattack and smite. Plus you're still relatively tanky healthwise even with a +1 in con at least, you're able to heal yourself without spell slots should you get hit. Not even considering the ability save scores you'll always have at level six due to you protection aura. That's not considering the fact that race score increases or ability improvements exist, you have at least 3 races that are optimally made for paladin and alleviate the allocation of scores.

Can't be good at everything, just how the game is made, but y'all are just giving the class a bad rap for things that aren't as bad as you make it, or that you could work around if it really bothered you that much. MADs especially isn't that bad when you have anything above a 1d8 in health imo. You have SOME health to spare quite simply. At least focusing on dex for damage gives you some space for focus of 3 ability scores instead of 4. Then again this is for optimality sake, just have fun man.

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@Tmanowns

2y↑443

And in this episode, Blaine reveals that he doesn't know how paladins work while acting smarmy about them.

Smite isn't a spell or magic. It's why Barbarians can still smite while raging.

Also, frightened is EXTREMELY common in big boss fights. Like, say, dragons.

@colton3989

2y↑58

I also find it strange he says that your Con isn't high enough to concentrate on spells since most paladins I know have a +2 in Con at least and you add you Cha mod to Con saves as well...

@Tmanowns

2y↑37

@Colton exactly. Paladins make phenomenal support characters, especially when they get their auras. The amount of times I had a party member survive because of a +3 in my charisma is mindblowing, not to mention my own saving throws.

And having lay on hands is great when the party healer gets ambushed and downed, or to fully restore yourself after a huge hit.

But I think they really shine in their synergy with Barbarian multiclassing. Most of their best features are usable even when raging, and free advantage and resistance makes you an utter beast of a damage reducer.

@esgeir9499

2y↑6

He is just trolling on the class it's a joke guys

@Tmanowns

2y↑47

@Esgeir the point of these videos is to point out their weaknesses and downsides. The "don't play one" is the joke, but the details are supposed to be accurate.

@agilemind6241

2y↑43

@Esgeir That doesn't give him license to just lie about what the class can / can't do. If you want to critique paladins you've got their weakness against flying enemies, lack of spell slots, lawful-stupid player style, smite addiction when they get some amazing spells, half the subclasses almost never using their Channel Divinity, Divine Sense, how bad Smite spells are .... none of which requires just being wrong.

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@nlmrpolo

2y↑407

Oh no, Tiamat comes, now I cannot damage her with my spells! Good thing I can use Divine Smite instead, and I can use the rest of my spell slots to play as a support. Oh and also, I now cannot become frightened by Tiamat, who basically makes everyone frightened for about two rounds as a passive.

@TrainHardnett

2y↑128

oh no, my aura of protection also gives my entire party +5 to every single saving through in a 30 feet radius. Whatever shall I do?

@pontoquente1825

2y↑6

hmm seems a lot of fun not doing anything but standing there giving passive stuff to your teammates lol. and what paladin are you playing that have +5 to Charisma?

@idoitforthememes6011

2y↑55

@PontoQuente182 As opposed to only dealing damage or only giving out passive buffs, I'd prefer to do both

@Dawning_Light

2y↑38

@PontoQuente182 +5 modifier is a 20 which by the time you reach someone as strong Tiamat you should have had enough ASIs to hit a 20 in at least one ability score.

@caspian7317

2y↑3

Facts

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@severussnape2917

2y↑427

I think you might have missed the +5 to every save aura

@Quinton151

2y↑82

That wouldn't fit his fox news like narrative

@GonnaDieNever

2y↑67

There is literally no way to make that sound bad, it is so insanely powerful.

@anondabomb

@Quinton Garcia You mean legacy media like narrative, cnn and their kin need to be held responsible for their literal slander.

@huuminbloodborn7570

2y↑1

yeah but that's if you dump into charisma, so now you can cast your like 5 spell slots which probably fail anyway and then resort to swinging your sword that's too heavy for you

@georgepapadopoulos7937

2y↑31

@Huumin Bloodborn you don't have to do that really. +4, heck, even a +3 is amazing. Subclasses like Oath of Devotion even help with that, increasing your to hit modifier by an amount equal to charisma. Sure yeah, you wouldn't go mainly charisma except for specific builds, but +3-4 to EVERY saving throw in an an aura around you is amazing

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@mechanizedMytha

2y↑125

i played a watchers paladin that took the "prepare for extraplanar creatures" tenet and turned it up to 11, being a construct BUILT as essentially a guardian against extraplanar creatures. it worked because the DM's big bad was a shapeshifting body-snatching plane travelling giant

@esgeir9499

2y↑5

I misread giant as goat for a second... I have my new campaign

@mechanizedMytha

@Esgeir oh that sounds incredibly cursed, tell me more

@murpledeer

20w

I saw the Oath of Watchers Paladin and just thought: I can base an entire campaign around this class welp I guess that’s what I’m doin’ now

@Venomtankmod

2y↑835

I remember I had a dm that mistakenly let me use divine smite on ranged attack. I was playing a time traveler vengeance paladin with a powder keg loaded musket. I also took a dip into artificer for free reloading. TLDR-I played halo in dnd.

@shade6001

2y↑95

I'm just imagining the final boss being busy with the rest of the party and then getting shot and instantly killed by some guy with a musket and the power of God.

@Venomtankmod

2y↑64

@shade well the final boss was this necromancer demon who was super into casting mass hold person and monologuing, so I ended up just nat 20ing my save roll then got a passable deception check to act like I was frozen, then I just hit him in the back. At the same time our gloom stalker assassin rouge ranger who had been hiding dashed out and stabbed him in the ribs. We dealt like 200~250 damage each. And yes this demon only had a max of 300 hp. Dm facepalmed hard.

@nameless_milk_1624

2y↑15

@Venomtankmod3 bro how does nobody know how to spell rogue?

@junconglin

2y↑8

@Venomtankmod3 what kinda dm lets the 2 highests bursts get easy damage on their boss

@Venomtankmod

2y↑16

@juncong lin he though his spell and monologue combo would work. Had a spell save of 23. The rouge was his gf so he kinda made a 15 stealth check work even though the boss likely had higher perception. So I was lucky and the dm went soft on the rouge

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@royplatt455

2y↑120

One nitpick: it specifically says in Redemption's Tenets that no, Redeemers are in fact NOT complete morons, and don't need to bother trying to redeem evil-by-nature creatures and any that are beyond Redemption

@holyguardian598

2y↑11

Im playing as a redeemer in a campaign right now. First paladin character i am playing.
He gets upset when he cant convince someone to leave their bad ways (some raiders that the party fought).
But he despises any kind of evil being.
This duality is really fun to rp

@emilianocarnaya1602

2y↑11

When I played one it was like
"Guys we don't have to murder each other"
"Guys we REALLY don't have to murder each other"
"..."
"Aight they ain't listening, time to smite"

@jarrakul

2y↑8

Redemption is basically "don't start shit, but feel free to end it."

@anon2447

@Jarrakul I walk as loudly as possible in the dungeon causing creatures and people to ambush me..one scene later with face covered in other's blood, what?! they ambushed with intent to kill first

@LexiconPunk

2y↑35

Lots of these feel like grasping at straws. Paladin's simply too good. It's offense is good, but it's defensive capability is phenomenal. Fear immunity at lvl 10's good. Dragons can be common. Frightful Presence can outright invalidate martials that dump WIS.

@nephicus339

2y↑3

Also that Tiamat and dragons aren't the only fear inducing encounters you can face. There are spells and items that also do this, and having a caster frighten your party while you full-plate clank stomp your way up to them and cleave them in half is a spectacular visual around the table.

@gemsngold

2y↑2

also i feel like he kinda brushed over the MASSIVE bonus to EVERY save from AoP PLUS you get to share it with your party???

@tjcross2

2y↑41

This feels like someone who's never play with, as or run a paladin trying to make fun of a paladin.

@s4lty523

2y↑534

paladin is the favorite child of a barbarian and cleric

@jennybrown7834

2y↑27

I Prefer the wierd older siblings ranger and druid

@eongaming00001

2y↑8

Your not wrong

@shinobidaniel_12

2y↑30

More like the child of Fighter and Cleric

@blepinator7847

2y↑4

@Shinobi Daniel _12 I agree

@amgry_leaf8546

2y↑4

Who is the least favorite child then?

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@ethanlocke3604

2y↑242

I get that the video is a joke, but paladins are the most powerful class that’s not a full caster. Like mechanically they’re one of the more powerful classes

@pontoquente1825

2y↑4

no. in fact, thats not a joke, only because he spoke sarcastically doesn’t mean that this class doesn’t suck.

@szantaiz333

2y↑32

@PontoQuente182 Sure.

@junconglin

2y↑35

@PontoQuente182 let me guess you were the chaotic "neutral" rogue?

@pontoquente1825

@juncong lin I've never played a non lawful good character :D

@junconglin

2y↑25

@PontoQuente182 (X) doubt

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@nicholasmorgan7609

2y↑137

Have gun, will travel reads the card of a man
A knight without armor in a savage land
His fast gun for hire, heeds the calling wind
A soldier of fortune, is a man called Paladin

@joshuabevins8244

2y↑8

im glad im not the only one that knows that show

@pricelesssword4559

2y↑6

Maverick! I loved that growing up. Gun smoke too

@zach415

2y↑1

Paladin Paladin where do you roam
Paladin Paladin far from home

@ondrejbronec837

2y↑10

The main problem with the Palladin class is the 2d8 of Psychic damage your DM will take trying to balance encounters around you. It is the class with highest risk of dying under a random rockslide.

@StrangeGamer859

2y↑82

Just multiclass into another charisma class and be the anime protagonist you already believe you are

@aprinnyonbreak1290

2y↑21

Hexblade is the standout, of course.

Who needs training when you can just believe in yourself harder?

@aaronhumphrey2009

2y↑1

Warlock..become the Witch Knight..
Teifling Paladin of Conquest x Warlock of the Old Ones = Telepathic Terminator..

@arf101088

2y↑8

sorc-adin is a classic

@kaiserofkush

Me, making an Oath of Ancients paladin who's sworn fealty to Nature. Becomes smitten with the homebrewed Nature deity (who i'm pretty sure is an archfey of some sort). Cue the hexblade pact. I had already written out a full oath for my DM based off the tenets in the PHB, so I just modified that to swear fealty and we flavored it as shifting runes across my characters scales (dragonborn) 21 AC and a +9 to hit feel pretty fucking nice, i tell you what.

@HeabSaysNo

2y↑7

Just gotta point out --- you have to have 13 charisma to even be a paladin, so there's no way you can have a negative charisma modifier for divine sense outside of some kind of poison or curse or something.

@zachjaeger6401

2y↑181

paladin
crown: we will arrest you
conquest: I use summon guillotine

@Fiuza2Layers

2y↑3

plot twist:the conquest paladin is french.

@petrusv8752

Watcher: gives the local human BBEG side-eye before rushing off to slay the celestial unicorn because its not from the material plane

@gildedphoenix

Yep. My Paladin was a follower of Pharasma, (for those who don't know, she's a goddess who judges the dead, and can't judge a dead if they become undead) not really happy with undeads as you might think, whener he saw one, "I will fucking conquer the land your rotten body is layin down!" is likely a sentence he might have yelled

@rompevuevitos222

2y↑106

@PH03NIX96

2y↑16

Lowkey the best feature about Paladin to me is the bonus to saves aura.

Paladins are meant to be Frontline supporters.

Stay next to the barbarian with a shit wisdom/int save and watch him wreck shop when he saves from being polymorphed or doesn't get his brained busted by an intellect devourer.

@JaelinBezel

2y↑13

Like just choose an oath based on your Paladins personality and backstory. It’s not that hard.

@kaiserofkush

2y↑3

@PH03NIX96 I 100% stand next to my barbarian friend every battle. He saved on a charm person last session by ONE thanks to my +5 aura. i thought he was going to kiss me IRL he was so happy.

@morrigankasa570

2y↑2

Technically the Cleric can find ways to still follow their Deity but don't have to blindly obey the alignment of it.
My Drow Feylost Death Domain Cleric follows the Raven Queen but isn't exactly Evil. In fact the Raven Queen isn't fully Evil either she is more Chaotic Neutral if you read the multiple stories about her and average them out. Also it's rather annoying that people think all Death Domain Clerics are Evil. Death is simply a part of Life and so following that Domain is accepting it and can do good by sending Villains, Criminals, and other enemies to the afterlife stops the troubles they cause for Good Law-abiding Citizens

@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015

2y↑97

I know these videos are a joke, but this one is incredibly inaccurate. Paladins are A+ in attack, defense and roleplay, with A in health. There are such things as filler abilities. You'd be surprised how much use I have gotten from those supposedly useless abilities. The ability to detect undead is quite useful when you need to distinguish Strahd von Zerovich from his mirror images and notify your casters. Also, immunity to disease is surprisingly useful against aberrations and some undead. The immunity to frighten effects is really helpful in the late game. When we played Tyranny of Dragons, my paladin was the reason we survived. Tiamat having immunity to spells of 6th level or lower means nothing to paladins, as divine smite isn't a spell and it does extra damage to fiends, which is what Tiamat is. I made a standard human paladin with a well-spread stat line and he is pretty baller. They aren't meant to be the main healer anyway, and their ability to heal without spells is just a bonus.

Barbarian has definite downsides, the biggest ones being that he can't cast spells while raging or do much of anything other than attack. The only real weakness that paladins have is the ability to deal ranged damage, but that's what a dexadin or a well-spread stat line are for. Paladin's weaknesses are few and are easily worked around. But the main thing is that you completely underplayed the paladin's strengths.

@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015

2y↑14

@TophatAndTeacup I guess with a class that is as good as paladin, you gotta either make shit up or pick the low-hanging fruit that are only minor inconveniences at worst.

I just can't wait until he gets to a class with REAL weaknesses, like Warlock and Monk. The only reason people even acknowledge the warlock's existence is for the Hexblade's 1 level multiclass, which is really only helpful for paladins and some bards.

@lyebatenkaitosofgluttony2452

2y↑2

@The Wonderfully Made Jaraid wth you're on something monk and Warlock are both the most fun classes I've ever played

@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015

2y↑2

@TophatAndTeacup I love Warlock, but I just want to cast more than two fireballs before taking a nap. Eldritch blast and invocations can never make up for that lack of spell slots.

@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015

2y↑3

@Juiceman I never said that they aren't fun. I've actually made several warlocks and even a monk that I hope to play some day. I am just saying that they are the mechanically worst classes in 5e bar none.

@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015

@TophatAndTeacup you are extremely limited with how many utility spells you can cast. If you want to cast identify, you have to cough up a high-level spell slot. Even with those invocations that allow you to cast spells that you couldn't before, you can only do it once, where other casters can do it multiple times.

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@elprimo8639

2y↑50

I know this is a joke but I’d like to point out that most paladins will at least have good Strength, and Devine smite isn’t a spell so you could still do big damage to the multi headed dragon queen.

@alxcus2962

2y↑80

Blaine: "Don't be a Paladin."

Me, who's first ever DnD character was a Paladin:

@renelopez3547

2y↑10

I was a Paladin of Vengeance.

@pontoquente1825

im sorry for you guys

@kittyhatmeow

2y↑6

Paladins of glory

@kittyhatmeow

2y↑18

Paladins is best class blane is just wrong

@merenguesaurio

2y↑3

Paladin of vengeance !

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@Thelegendarybros2

2y↑50

Divine Smite isn't a spell, it would work just fine on Tiamat!

@fm_0523

2y↑7

You really shouldn't have used Tianat as an example...divine smite is not a spell, meaning you can deal damage to her easily, and you can use other kind of spells other than damage ones.
Plus her passive is making everyone afraid, being immune to it saves a lot of trouble. Also, +5 to every saving throw!

@olimawu

2y↑58

Man, I don't know what you're talking about, last time we got into a fight with a Adult blue dragon he died at the second my turn ended. Of course everyone were very upset because this big fight ended in me rolling 20 dices, but at least I deleted a Dragon. Definitively a lot of fun for everyone.

@doge8726

2y↑1

That just means that either your DM played him wrong or is very new to the game

@olimawu

2y↑5

@Doge yes like he was in a cave, so he couldn't fly that much, and I only needed 1 turn to do it all. But I was using a very metagamy, asshole one shot build. 8 levels in Paladin and 2 leves in fighter, you can guess were this is going.

@annasolovyeva1013

2y↑1

@Olimawu a cup of dice? Love it!

@zach415

2y↑1

@Olimawu let me guess? 3 levels Champion fighter, vengeance paladin? Elven accuracy? I’m doing that exact thing

@olimawu

2y↑1

@Zach Very close, I was using a level 2 fighter level 8 paladin

@paulmurray3459

2y↑4

Face it. The real reason to be a Paladin is the aura. Everyone immediately loves you.

@GammaWALLE

2y↑4

4:00 Oath of the Watchers are unique in that they're killjoys for the DMs (by copyright lawyering interdimensional cool stuff out of the campaign) instead of for the other players.

@darkencroix6412

2y↑8

Hilariously 5e Paladin is the best it's ever been on it's own. And a single level dip into Hexblade lets you mostly ignore Strength, and care more about other stats just a bit more which is why it's done so often.

@hiryonin

2y↑5

And thats why you take 2 levels of Paladin and then deep dive into the Aberrant mind sorcerer and call yourself a Jedi.

@ThisIsRealFish

2y↑27

I had that issue with Redemption. I tried to convince a goblin to stop being evil or something and my party member just cut it down right in front of me, covering my little kobold in blood!

In the near 6 month campaign I played in, I didn't get to personally redeem one person.

@nephicus339

Redeem your party members! xD
but don't be preachy about it.

@ANDELE3025

2y↑3

Notes: Divine sense requires total cover, total cover requires obscurement, not just a object blocking the direct path to it, so glass is no protection and fear immunity to everyone that is close is, in terms of how common it gets in T3-4 AND how annoying/ball busting it can be to be unable to reposition, 100% worth a level.

@someguy3861

2y↑3

Most high level massive monsters (like dragons) have an Aura of fear type effect. Which is why the aura works.

@zachlewis9751

2y↑20

Don’t play Cleric, it’s A+ at everything
Don’t play Paladin, it’s B+ at everything

@gramfero

Don't play dnd in general.

@tygokoren3085

2y↑20

To me paladins have always been the most viable tanks in 5e, they're outright better than fighters, with a strong heal and don't shrivel up against magic or a large number of weak enemies like a barbarian.

@frungggg

barbarians are the best tank because they tank for the party. sure a 20ac paladin is gonna have a hard time being hit but the solutions. chuck saving throws and dont actually hit the paladin. a barbarian has reckless attack and shit ac to incentivize a dm to hit them. a paladin should frontline but wont do well as a tank

@tygokoren3085

2y↑2

@Fluffle_ Paladins do exceptionally well against saving throws due to their level 6 ability Aura of Protection(adding their charisma mod on top of their normal saving throw) As for not hitting them there's various utility spells depending on the levels of party members that can force the enemy to have to fight the paladin first. But if you have a DM who refuses to engage the high AC paladin get sentinel feat and start using a glaive/halberd. Either the now lowered ac incentivizes them to attack the Paladin, or the crowd control ability will.

@gemsngold

@Fluffle_ “chuck saving throws” Aura of Protection exists…?

@sinistralhydra

2y↑7

As a Paladin main, what I love about the class is it's sheer versatility which rivals that of Bards. They can Heal, Buff, and DPS. Their one and only flaw is a lack of ranged options, but you can use your mount to move 120ft in a turn anyway.

@JaelinBezel

It’s called a javelin, scrub!

@user-vm1nw8jq3s

46w

@Cody Hines ye

@slackingrebelgaming9940

2y↑4

I actually play a crystal dragon born paladin in a decent into Avernus game, I've relied on smite once this far, and as for her oath she's a conquest paladin of bahamut, which plays into her backstory, she vowed to conquer the cult of tiamat to avenge her wife and adopted son who were killed by kobold minions of the cult also giving her a hatred of kobolds, she's pigheaded in her hatred but if it's for the good of people she's willing to put that aside for the greater good because that's what her family would want.

@sammehlberg6664

2y↑3

Even though I've only played d&d a few times and many, many years ago, I still love it to the point that I watch all these videos. Well. There was never a pally in my games but I DID play OG and burning crusade Wow. I had a paladin that was known as a "twink", it means I purposely kept him at a low level but acquired insane gear that normally shouldn't be able to accessible by low levels. So whenever I hear talk about paladins, in my head is my unstoppable Juggernaut of heavy armor and holy magic destruction. Just raid bossing the poor bastards on the other team. Anyways...back to the video!

@animeotaku555

2y↑4

My favorite way to play a paladin is to not play a paladin. My main Dnd character atm is a human paladin, blue eyes and blond hair and always cheery and looking to help people, What she doesnt know though is that shes actually a hexblade warlock whos patron is playing tricks on her, pretending to be a paladin god whos chosen her as their champion.

@daggeranddoctor

2y↑3

That whole thing about tenets ruining personality and causing problems for the party was especially bewildering. That stuff you mentioned only ever happens with the 'lawful stupid' meme.

@andresarancio6696

2y↑17

Okay this does ignore the one thing that makes paladins stupid though: Effing Aura of Protection. Just walk to the GM and say to their face "A Charisma save? Okay. I have a +15 in it. Concentration saves? I add my Charisma to those too. Also my friends do too"

Like, sure, I love the 126 damage bursts of Divine Smite as much as anyone else, but BOY Aura of Protection is truly busted.

@tomc.5704

2y↑3

Oh yeah. Aura of Protection, Bless, and Divine Smite is enough to be a good in combat, with Lay on Hands to heal up after. At level 6, Paladins are top tier

Not sure if they're the best though. Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Sorcerer, and Wizard are all strong and have some kind of powerspike at that level. Anyone who can cast Spirit Guardians or Fireball 3x/day is a force to be reckoned with

@johnkelly8667

2y↑3

My first and only character that I got to play was a dwarf paladin named Nerneath Gravelborn.

Ever since that campaign I've been a forever dm. Paladins will always hold a special place in my heart.

@gabrielarchangel2658

2y↑7

Oath of Vengeance is my favorite subclass so I'm just gonna correct you on the Murderhobo Vengeance Paladin. Vengeance doesn't mean murder, it usually just means enforcing justice. Which could just be doing what the rest of the party agrees is justice.

@JaelinBezel

2y↑1

Two sessions ago was the first time the dm gave my vengeance paladin a reason to go all God’s Fury on someone: the party came across a three headed ogre that had clearly just finished eating a farming couple. And then while fighting it, the tank wizard got blown into many little pieces right next to my paladin.
Cue a Goliath going Super Saiyan.

@luisgaytan2387

2y↑3

Oath of Ancients gets their best feature at only level 6. Also the tennants are closer to guidelines with that oath than with any other making it pretty easy to keep a personality.

@ASadWeeaboo

2y↑4

My new character in my friends campaign is a goblin artificer name Fizroli who essentially makes experimental weapons for a war currently going on, sells it to one side and then sells a counter to the other. Has nothing to do with the video I'm just excited to play them. Have a great day.

@CactusJackIV

2y↑5

I played Pally, once, to be a Wyrm Rider. I had a Golden Dragon Mount, it was too impossible for me to be LG. Made it through a campaign, got a magic lamp with one wish. Have to wish the genie free, right??? Right? Well that’s how you get a wild mage in your party, do you want a wild mage in your party…because that’s how you get them.

@bradshawtroy420

2y↑15

I ran Rime of the Frostmaiden for my group and had them roll on the secrets table for their characters. One of the secrets on that table is that before the campaign, the character was attacked by a Red Slaad and was infected and hosting a Slaad egg. They had about 2 months to figure out how to get rid of it before it hatched all chest-burster style. The player that got this secret was playing a paladin. Slaad eggs can be removed by anything that can cure disease. Not only was my player able to be rid of the Slaad egg at level 1 (which he didn’t know) but at level 3, his holy paladin magic just killed the egg automatically. That is the only time I’ve seen Divine Health do anything.

@kaiserofkush

2y↑1

Well, my oath of ancients paladin was at a whorehouse and my DM asked me to make a CON save. It came in handy then.

@nephicus339

@lev Must be nice the entire table not roaring, "But you're a paladin! No more powers for you!" sadge

@kaiserofkush

@Jamie M There's nothing wrong with whoring, really, according to the tenets or my characters actual "oath" they took in game. all about protecting life, and nature!

@azmiraclegirl441

2y↑7

Paladin is the most classic "fantasy" class for me. A magic swordsman charging on a white horse towards danger is kinda what i imagine when i think "fantasy" lol

@JaelinBezel

The legend of Zelda

@frungggg

@Cody Hines links a fuckin valor bard tho

@the_amalgama

2y↑4

I literally just created an oath of the open sea paladin and found this video after. Still gonna play it as it is my first chatacter and I'm very happy with it

@godminnette2

2y↑1

This video is a joke, as per the disclaimer at the start. Paladin is probably the second strongest class behind wizard.

@torgr01

2y↑8

I don't know, sanctified reverie of arms is a pretty good spell. Especially if you multiclass fighter to get two weapon fighting and the extra action once per rest. Would you like to hit this enemy 8 times in 1? Yes, Yes I would.

@agsilverradio2225

2y↑4

Oath of the Watchers sounds like a true-neutral subclass to me.

@redeye0786

2y↑3

I thought this series had ended. Glad to see it back

@a.gubser6863

2y↑6

the paladin auras are so good tho, +cha to all saving throws within 10 ft, and oath of ancients paladin at lvl 7 has a 10ft bubble resistance to ALL damage from spells

@kaiserofkush

2y↑4

Yeah, when my DM casts fireball at me and the Tiefling and we both save his 30+ damage goes to 7 on me and 3 on my friend. I'm like, bro, you keep telling US to strategize...

@GThe-su9kl

2y↑6

I once played a paladin, and the feature I always used was his ability to summon a mount. It gives a greater movement speed, it can help you when you're in trouble, and since you have a mental link with it, you can use it to distract enemies while going on with your businesses.

@WhyYouMadBoi

2y↑2

Also with this mount can wear armor, you can ride it and it can take the disengage action meaning you can dip in and out of combat. Plus mental link and seamless meaning your DM can't make it freak out.

@kaiserofkush

@John Hasben My DM made me find crawford rulings on Find Steed before he let me use it in combat/talk with him telepathically. Like, it's a fucking Worg bro. It is literally capable of speech and you think it can't tell me what it can see?

@WhyYouMadBoi

@lev You don't even need Crawford it says it in the fucking spell. Literally it says "Communicate with each other" while find familar says "Telepathically issue commands" which means you and your mount are talking to each other.

It also says "Fighting as a seamless unit" as well.

@TheDapperDragon

2y↑3

"And your charisma doesn't matter because she can't be effected by your magic."
But is she immune to my charm?

@smeefman6923

2y↑8

its all fun and games until the paladin crits and uses his divine smite that does 145 damage on his first hit

@wolfpack8450

2y↑3

To be honest, I don't main Paladins but their ability to randomly throw down 2d8's at level 2 plus their weapon's original damage die is insane(even better if you get a crit), and their availability to get one of the cheaper heavy armor's there is plus a shield is hella strong early game. Although mid-game Paladins aren't much to fear since at that point Divine Smite can be easily avoided since it doesn't work with ranged equipment.

@gemsngold

2y↑2

In any tier of the game the Aura of Protection is straight-up overpowered.

@cinnamonroffles

47w↑1

>mid-range paladin with misty step, defense fighting style, a halberd that gives reach, Gem Flight and the ability to lock down anyone with a melee attack/opportunity attack or throw a decently damaging javelin twice if not thrice if they're out of range, and a chance to lock people within a 30 ft range if they fail a 14 dc dex or charisma check once per short rest
All after casting Bless which gives people on average 2.5 points of advantage on attack and save throws for minimal cost, let's not forget passives like a +3 to all saves just by being near me
Hi

@DoctorSoulll

After watching, im rather proud of my Conquest Paladin that I played a couple years back in a CoS campaign and the stuff she accomplished:
- Laying down 149 total damage (3 greatsword attacks, 2 Crits+ Smites) toward Strahd's Chamberlain
- Using Lesser Restoration to release an ally from a Hold Person spell
- Divine Sense to detect a vampire spawn disguised as a Maid
- Succeeding a hit with a crossbow bolt against a wolf that did exactly 0 dmg (-1 Dex Mod)
- Using Conquering Presence + Aura of Conquest against a squad of werewolves that failed most of their WIS saves
- Landing a Crit on a Battle Ready Strahd with Thunderous Smite attached, while invisible.

@curlylook8811

2y↑1

I love the example of Tiamat. My Paladin went 1v1 vs the Tiamat. She wanted to go back to Avernus after the whooping I gave her.

@emeraldcaptain7226

As someone who has a Paladin who’s an entirely new player; I can confirm that they are ADDICTED to Divine Smite. About halfway through the campaign so far, they’ve used their other spells like- 3 times

@otterfire4712

2y↑1

Protection from being frightened is pretty good since adult dragons and bigger let out a roar that forces checks against being frightened.

@cantbelieveimdoingthis7550

2y↑1

Once a paladin hits sixth level, they're a godsend to any party. Aura of protecc

@cantbelieveimdoingthis7550

But also attacc

@Jamstaro1

2y↑12

Paladins healing hand is mostly (in how I run them) a rp tool or a protect the civies and or for a poison interrogation play. You won't let them die... but you're not gonna help them recover unless they talk.

@WhyYouMadBoi

2y↑2

It isn't a RP tool it is a tool to not only heal yourself but buffer allies. Literally if you are 5th level with let's say 50 hp you would have 25 in that pool giving you basically half your own hp in healing back. effectively giving yourself 75 hp

@Jamstaro1

@John Hasben in that same aspect it is how I choose to run my paladins... 1-2 hp is all it takes in some instances and paladins can get information for healing an injured child. Etc etc.

Just because people use a mechanic for combat doesn't mean that's all it's useful for. And vice versa. Yes I use healing hands in combat... but I also do it in a way that fits the Character at the time.

@WhyYouMadBoi

2y↑1

@Jamstaro Honestly pretty subpar unless you got beefy AC or far from any enemies that you could use an action to bolster yourself. Or if you wanna conserve spell slots.

@frungggg

burst heal or out of combat only

@user-vm1nw8jq3s

46w

@WhyYouMadSon I had a ac of 18 1st level

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@thod_2306

47w↑1

@nw42

I find this series really useful. There are tons of videos about various classes—their flavor, strengths, tips for playing them—but surprisingly few which go into detail about their pitfalls.

It’s kind of like when buying something online: always read the 1-star reviews. A lot of the issues described probably won’t come up for you (and many may just be people venting) but they’ll balance out the hype and give you a more realistic picture of what you’re signing up for.

@gemsngold

2y↑5

Unfortunately, this is the most inaccurate rendition in the series. Half of the features are straight up interpreted wrong, some of the more powerful ones are completely ignored, etcetera.

@blackday1013

2y↑2

Every other class was in good fun, but this one, this one hurts.

@taylorman666

I played a paladin with personal devotions, like protecting the innocent and all that, who would side with gods who would help him support his ideals. Really liked the character.

@Rebelcommander6

2y↑3

Playing my Homebrew Oath of Draconic Majesty Paladin.... I can attest its WAY too easy to get addicted to Smites. Especially with a goody my DM gave me that allows for some Massive Radiant and Fire Damage output

@novadrake9232

2y↑3

Blaine all you did was make me laugh (im already playing one)

@GamingMasterAnthony

Taking ancients for the ensnaring strike is a good idea. It gives a guaranteed advantage attack to the party against the ensnared foe as long as they don’t save. They can’t move, sure they can still attack but only if someone is in range. And they take damage every turn they’re ensnared.

That and talk to animals is kinda fun to use against a giant monster from the underdark.

@rotsu6599

2y↑1

Paladin - best martial class in the game, but with the most ribbons, which are the easiest to mock.

Still, the best martial class in the game with the best abilities to support, slap and rp for your whole party, if needed.

@konobuzoggu239

2y↑1

haven't played 5th, or looked at the rules since the playtest version, but if you get an RP rating of B+ for a paladin, there's something you're missing

@dominicstevenson8816

I am generally new to DnD and the first official character I made was a paladin becuase they needed someone who can do melee damage and I didn’t want to be a barbarian and I think they already had a rouge or something. Despite this video being a joke, I can already see the similarities and am now worried about how my character will play out.

@macromondo8026

2y↑28

I thought Oath of Watchers were the MIB of Paladins tho...
Btw I love Paladin...'s spell-list, gonna steal that Find Greater Steed with Magical Secrets as soon as my Bard hits level 10 (infinite flying here I go!)

@CitanulsPumpkin

2y↑6

The Paladin and Ranger spell lists are often the best places to look when picking magical secrets. Their class exclusive 3rd, 4th, and 5th level spells are marginally "balanced" for tier 3 and 4 levels of play because that's when they are supposed to matter. Then Bard has to go and prove that full casters make it so the game will never be "balanced."

@Toolgirl64209

2y↑2

The way I see it, Watchers believe that extraplanar beings like aberrations and celestials are meant to stay where they belong, and not meddle in our affairs. So they're more like demon hunters with a VERY diverse set of targets.

@stefanivanov8754

2y↑3

It's still my favorite class. <3 The holy light is always right guys. Now march forward and SMITE!

@jesseyancy1160

2y↑1

I find paladins to be beautiful tank/dps and an ok backup healer if needed. There are also plenty of good buffs you can use to help your party. But it does feel like it's trying to do too many things

@RedSuitGuy

2y↑2

Paladin was the first class I played, it was way too complicated! I should have played fighter. Now days I'm the sweaty strategic spell caster who always has the PHB on his side... still to complicated. Now that I think of it DND can't not be complicated!

@beaudwayful

2y↑2

Tell me you have never played a Paladin without ever playing a Paladin

@dominicspagnol8765

2y↑1

When you showed that stat spread of 4's I scoffed and said, "heh, my character only has one 3 ha" We decided last minute to roll stats with single d20 rolls per stat (all because of a joke we should do it), and I rolled really well. I think my rolls were; 19, 17, 18, 16, 10, 3. Got a max wis, 19 dex 18 con monk 3 cha shadow monk and I've been thinking all about how this githzerai is goonn get along with the party lmao

@BeholdDog5341

2y↑1

My DM had to come up with a custom rule for my tower shield blocking as well as shield bashing. I originally gained +2AC when blocking (+5 now because better shield)z he also allowed me to run in the way of one of my allies to have the enemy attack me instead. Shield bashing does 1d4+STR modifier and staggers enemy on failed dexterity save. Keep in mind I always have to take an action or reaction to do any of this

@vigilantemike9640

2y↑7

Wait I thought clerics/paladins used incantations not spells? So wouldn't it work against Tiamat?!

@gemsngold

2y↑2

anything marked as a spell IS a spell. divine smite is a feature not a spell tho, so you can still use radiant damage to disintegrate Tiamat into oblivion.

@jackandnatehowe2880

I actually tried to use divine sense because I thought some skeletons would come to life (there was a bunch of skeletons) there were not any skeletons, however the divine sense didn’t tell me about the ghosts hiding in the tree.

@matthewschultz7390

2y↑2

Paladin is my favorite class and you will never change my mind.

@Alex-cq1zr

Oath of Ancients: you wanted to be a bard, but also a ranger, while outliving the druid not getting disease from your high charisma score.

@SirApplesauce

2y↑1

I like that sweet paladin dip then take the other levels in a full caster (my preference is Sword Bards).

@marcusblacknell-andrews1783

20w

On the contrary, I once built an “Oathbreaker” Paladin as a Phantom Rider for a Ravenloft adventure, and I’m proud of it

@silk4710

2y↑13

Wow someone hasn't seen how op this class actually is.

@tomc.5704

Someone missed the disclaimer at the start

@silk4710

2y↑4

Someone hasn't seen him say the same thing about paladins in other videos that weren't satirical.

@frungggg

op is an overstatement but yes paladin does get some good abilities and a couple decent spell

@silk4710

2y↑2

@Fluffle_ Tell me a bad ability the base class gets.

@frungggg

@Silk divine sense tends to be very situational

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@jonahpedersen5429

I just finished playing a Paladin in a mind flayer infiltration campaign and had an absolute blast ending with fighting the avatar of a god where I did 24d8 smite damage in one round.

So long, Anon Von Shart. It was fun.

@agsilverradio2225

2y↑2

I still want to play an oath of glory paladin. The head-on approach was how I wanted to play him anyways, so that dosn't deter me.
...
Also, the way I built him, the multi ability dependence isn't an issue.
At level 1, He has at least +2 to every core abilly except wisdom and intelligence, which I dumped for roleplay reasons.

@Possessed2k9

I played a Paladin when we ran CoS and I very quickly realized that all I was doing was cast bless, 'attack, divine smite' and occasionally drop a cure wounds. So, basically became a summoner. Grabbed Find Steed (my DM let me have a fricking skeletal dinosaur which was cool af), and then accepted the Dark Gift of Seriach from the Amber Temple, and then when searching the crypts in Castle Ravenloft managed to tame 2 Grave Hounds... And I was finally useful in combat 😂

@graftednormalcy1376

so hoping you do an Artificer video in this series. Even if its jokingly critcising the class we artificers keep getting forgotten in "the classes" videos

@nastube4052

These videos are great, can't wait for more. I'd love to see druids and rogues. Also, lol'd when you mentioned options other than smite, because my main paladin I would play if I wasn't DM'ing would be like 5 levels of paladin, then all sorc.. just for more spell slots to smite more often. :D

@nastube4052

Hell, maybe even just get smite then go straight into sorc. lol.

@alessm2206

2y↑11

My favorite paladin is Egbert from the Oxventure Guild (played by Mike from Outside Xbox). He doesn't play like a typical paladin and constantly forgets he has magic because he's a Dragonborn. He also gets a seal sidekick who is great.

@destroyerinazuma96

One could partially solve the Lay-on-hands-is-an-action issue by dipping one level into Divine Soul Sorc or Celestial Lock. That's bonus action ranged healing.

@patches1090

2y↑2

Keep in mind you can really cherry pick features of any class to make it sound bad

@derpybird612

2y↑1

You laugh but when we are fighting Tiamat who's not frightened, but should be? This guy :)

@DoomsdayR3sistance

Divine Sense almost did something once when I was playing Paladin, almost... one point we found a crypt while travelling and the party entered it. The party had snuck some "mushrooms" into the food we ate and so my paladin was not seeing things normally. As the party got into the crypt she was distracted by the party and didn't see the undead while suffering from the drug-induced delirium. If my Paladin had noticed the skeletons, she'd have used Divine Sense and detected they were all undead but instead the party not wanting to rob a grave just led the Paladin out and left it entirely alone, that trap being left for another group of adventurers, presumably. DM did confirm afterwards, that yes, all the skeletons were undead ready to ambush anybody that looted the crypt.

Honestly, Divine Sense needs a minor buff, like just letting you know there are undead, fiends or celestials nearby, even if you can't see them would be a small upgrade.

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