There are two bands called "The Romans":

(1) The Romans were one of … Read Full Bio ↴There are two bands called "The Romans":

(1) The Romans were one of Los Angeles' first super-groups with members of the budding art/punk scene sweeping Southern California in the early 80's. With members from Human Hands, Monitor, BPeople, The Deadbeats, 45 Grave, Consumers, Tikis, the LAFMS and Green On Red, The Romans added a unique voice to the "LA Punk" movement. While the explosive chemistry of The Romans was short lived, with only 2 full-length LPs ever recorded (their second LP produced by Steve Wynn of Dream Syndicate), band members went on to make rock history with Mazzy Star and Opal. On the debut release, The Romans were Mikey Borens, Pat Delaney, Juan Gomez, Keith Mitchell, and Michael Uhlenkott, and was engineered by the legendary Paul Cutler. Their debut 1983 LP, YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE was released on cd with 8 bonus tracks by Warning Label Records.

(2) Powerful and very talented band from Maaseik, Belgium, which make music in the best tradition of Hüsker Dü, the Lemonheads, the Posies and Therapy!.

The two brothers Laurens & Chris Leurs and their friend Frank Coonen become runners-up in the 1988 final of Belgians biggest talent contest, Humo's Rock Rally. After the mini-album Ball & Chain (Produced by Kloot Per W) and the full album Trigger Happy, they take a retreat. They perform as backing vocals for other Belgian Artists like De Mens, Ze Noiz and The Paranoiacs.

In 1993 they hit back real hard with "Major Panic". Not less than four singles are released from this album : "Down down underground", "Fire Brigade" (a Move cover), "Minneapolis" and "My friend Stan" (a Slade cover), all of which got raving critics and wide airplay. They tour the country extensively (e.g. as the opener for Iggy Pop).

Or as Knack put it in a review of the album "the Romans have plotted their revenge together with producer Paul Despiegelaere (see Machines). "Major Panic" plays in the first league of the best Belgians of all time and is miles ahead of almost everything that went through our hands in the last half year. That much praise is due to six songs of outstanding quality and their fine harmony in singing and living. They had it already and they found it again."

In an article in Humo, the band is introduced as follows : "After the very good album"Trigger Happy" The Romans have been without a record contract for two years , so with less gigs, so with less airplay, so with less screaming teenagers in skintight jeans, because that's how it goes. That is incomprehensible because (1) the new Major Panic is an excellent rock album and we wish the nitwit in the record company who caused the break a lot of itch and a short arm, and (2) in the meantime countless other groups in the world have had the opportunity to dump countless tons of shitty records on the world."

1996 sees the release of another good album "Be my star" with the brilliant single "Someday Cindy" and "How slow" and "I am the liar". Jacky Huys said about this record "We've always liked the chaps from the Romans, even though the guitar-rock on Be my Star isn't really up-to-date and it begins to appear they've definitively missed their train to Top-ville".

1998 has the next Romans album and a move to a new record company : Oyster Records. El Diablo was received well by the press, but apart from the curious single ""Space Girl", which faired very well in De Afrekening, the album didn't cause much of a stir. As the bio says : "But The Romans don't let it go to their heart, as their primary concern is not 'becoming famous' but writing songs with a capital 'S'."

Although their talent is well-appreciated by the alternative rock-audience and recognized by the critics, they haven't managed to produce a breakthrough to the general audience or markets abroad. But as Laurens Leurs said in 1993 "I am glad with our position as underdogs. It is the most comfortable position to be in as a musician. I don't want to have to prove myself constantly. ... The Romans will never be the next big thing.".

In april 2000 The Romans compiled the best of their material they have recorded in the period from 1989 until 2000 on acompilation album, called "So Far". There even is the release of a single, "Burn 2000", a new version of the song that appeared on the mini-album "Ball & Chain", got a lot of airplay but never got out on single-format.

In his latest newsletter to the fans, Laurens Leurs said "After 12 years of sweating, labouring, amusing us, rehearsing, manifesting us, we make a round-up of what the Romans have done to this day. This brings to an end an important period of the Romans. What now?! With this, the pages of the nineties' book is definitely turned over. New ambitions need to found, new goals to be set. "You gotta walk and don't look back".

Only a few weeks later, the decision was made : The Romans split. The reason are no "artistic differences", "ego-clashes" or solo-plans, but a feeling that everything has been done.

Members :
- Laurens Leurs (vocals, guitars)
- Chris Leurs (vocals, bass)
- Frank Coonen (drums)

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The Romans Lyrics

We have lyrics for these tracks by The Romans:

Black Floating free suspended aimlessly Emptiness, but I don't fee…
Happy Who else is sick and tired of all these fucking…
I Will Call Mindless. This mindless flesh that devours, it keeps me boun…
Moonlight I don't need your help I don't need your love I don't…
Searching I always knew I'd never reach perfection, and if I ever…
Tequila Cuando tuve uso de razón Me llamaron la atención La cerveza …
This Is Real I give you my love but you won't take it I…
Those Oldies but Goodies Those oldies but goodies reminds me of you The songs of…
To Those Who Know I'm checking off the list Of what could be done Was there…

Uh Huh Gotta take the shame from my back It's a hard enough…
What Gives What you give to me Give to me What you give to…
What Gives? What you give to me Give to me What you give to…
Wild Wild Party D Spent a little time in the 208 G Growing…

You Do Something to Me You do something to me Something that simply mystifies me …

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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

Tyler Durden

2y↑1

@Hugh C Yap, the Romans had steel, but they didn't have cheap plentiful steel.

Their steel was wrought iron produced in bloomaries.
These bloomaries weren't hot enough to melt steel and produced a mix of slag and iron called sponge iron.
Impurities had to be painstakingly hammered out (this is called forging).

What made the industrial revolution possible, was the invention of large blast furnaces that were hot enough to melt steel. This only really happened in the 17th century. (others have melted steel before but only in cruibles in small amounts).

This made steel cheap and plintiful...and because it now be melted, that allowed casing iron (which can achieve complicated shapesl.

Shane Jones

@RandomlyGeneratedName im not exactly sure what you mean. What do you mean by if "the money source gets corupted"? Do you mean the issuers of money becoming corupted? Like people being corupt because of their role in the economic activity of society is so great?

Or do you mean an economic system has a sort of essence or natural state which is corupted?

I dont think coruption of individuals adjacent to money in Rome caused a non-application of machinery. Nor do I think some natural economic system broke down internally.

Its just that the contingent factors of industrial capitalism are peculiar to that epoch. Rome had its own state of affairs which can be explained in contrast to industrial society.

But each society has its own historical contingent features. Not that there is some universal economic ethos which is right for all time.

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Maiorianus

2y↑49

Thanks for watching this video! We are planning on doing more in depth videos about roman technologies. Please let us know in which technology you are most interested in! Please comment below!
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Iam Germane

Scientists have now figured out how Roman concrete worked! The volcanic ash ingredient was overblown. Search for the element that was truly revolutionary and something we can use TODAY!

Andrew the chipmunk.

They were in handsome pain

thecursed01

2y↑2

please use your normal voice.

Bender

2y↑2

We are not copying Roman concrete. If we were, we would be using it already. They know how to make it. They know there is no money in it.

00Billy

taxi meters

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uChakide

2y↑252

I find people's incredulity to ancient accomplishments funny. They were just as smart as we are, had a different relationship to how much time things took to do, and just because we don't know exactly how something was done doesn't mean it is impossible.

Vanha Sydan

52w

Kittos

Stephen Black

I'd say SmartER

Smoothie4653

I don’t agree

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Kimberly Perrotis

2y↑94

Roman engineering is absolutely amazing. They did borrow architectural aesthetics from the Greeks, directly or via the Etruscans, along with many other aspects of culture, but Roman engineering was largely home-grown, and very impressive!

Oscar Prendergast

I find their mastery of concrete
And especially marine applications of specialised underwater concrete - building edifices and docks etc. All home grown - yes concrete as we
Know it Was Born in BEAUTIFUL 😍 ROMA!
Roma Volis
Propit!

Malfattio

2y↑103

Roman water clocks were also very impressive. They were effectively mechanical clocks, just powered by water. I wonder if any were hooked up to viaducts.

Jeffrey314159

2y↑15

Exactly, Greeks and Romans had mechanical clocks before the Chinese

Yora

2y↑176

Lead contamination in Roman drinking water seems rather unlikely. The Roman plumbing system didn't have taps, so water was constantly running through the pipes. There wasn't water standing in pipes for days or weeks to potentially soak up lead particles. Most of the lead that ends up in the water would be flushed out with the constant water flow and not end with the water that was actually drunk by people.

Kenneth Lodwig

@Steven Edwards you are absolutely correct!

Steven Edwards

1y↑1

@Kenneth Lodwig everyone is debating about the pipes and totally forgets about the pottery and it's mineral content and what it leeched as well as metal plates and silverware which could be lead as well.

Kenneth Lodwig

2y↑1

the lead poison came from cooking with lead pots, not the water.

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Hop On pop

2y↑73

Years ago we had a massive flood which either wiped out or rendered unsafe almost every bridge in the area except one .
My cousin pointed out that bridge was concrete with two arches very similar to a Roman bridge .
Coincidence maybe or superior design .

Bruh Mania

@ vitiated vagabond we know how to build like that if not better, hell we can just copy them. we just choose to build quick and cheap and with 50 year lifespan in mind roughly.

vitiated vagabond

2y↑2

romans knew more then, than we do now. show me one concrete structure that has lasted half as long if you want to prove me otherwise.

Alberto DV

2y↑6

Still standing roman bridges generally last more than the others for three reasons:
- they are completely compressed structures, while nowadays we massively use bending (so tension)
- rocks and concrete have high resistance to compression
- most of the bridges were over-dimensioned for their purpose

Dawson Davis

2y↑5

@Nick Tamer maybe it's because their built out of more durable concrete? On fairly stable rivers? Or are high arches?
I live in a wet country and thnx to higher than usual waters over recent years a stone arch bridge by my home has been decommissioned. Its centuries old, but the higher waters means the arch sections start to catch debris wich backs up the rivers flow while in flood, making the pressure rise. This kinda situation can make arch bridges slide, like ours did. Let's see how many arch bridges servive the next few decades..
My counsil is gonna replace it with somthing hidious though, I know it... After its been left there, sealed for 5 years ofcourse..

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Catonzo

2y↑92

It is my greatest sorrow that I will never be able to experience such architecture and engineering. If it was even half as beautiful as it looks in our recreations it would be a staggeringly amazing thing to behold. To just walk the streets of Rome in that time.. if only for a day. I never am able to rid myself of the thoughts of what would have happened to history had the Roman Empire never fallen. What would it look like today? Would it be better? Worse? Would we have been to the moon centuries earlier? All speculation, but it just thoughts I can't shake.

Markxyz

2y↑6

As an architect from the reinassance wrote "Roma quanta fuit ipsa ruina docet" which means "How grand was Rome is shown by its own ruins"

curiousbynature1968

2y↑3

Not all was lost: some years ago, in Germany was recreated a giant wooden crane that the Romans used for heavy lifting.

Catonzo

2y↑1

@Sugondese What an odd thing to feel the need to say. Completely besides the point in every way possible.

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Fabricio - Agrippa - Zárate

1y↑4

A funny thing about the Cloaca Maxima is that, even though Romans did amazing deeds of engineering, oddly enough the design of this sewage is not that efficient, but there's a reason for that: ancient Romans were highly superstitious, and any type of body of water was considered somewhat sacred, so they thought they needed to make the Cloaca flow like a river. They went as far as worshipping a deity with its name (Cloacina) and erecting a temple in its honour.

tammo100

2y↑19

What about Roman city planning? Like the Cardo and Decumanus, the organization of the city, standardization of city streets, shopping streets, centralization of services around the Forum, but also things like sanitation, apartment building (Insulae) and pedestrian crossings?

Alexander I

2y↑291

An industrial revolution in the Roman Empire would have been so cool but by the time we got to our current age we would be like a galactic civilisation and everything would be push forward into the future by like 2000 years. Very interesting alright

Oliver Briody

@alan rickett ý7

Elizabeth Hurley

Adam

And think how much time we are about to lose so we can babysit the diverse people of the world

Daniel

2y↑1

@rick ross Well slaves arent all that productive. Thats one of the reasons why slavery was replaced by a system based on intrests. A worker is much more productive if it has the illusion that it can dig itself out of debt. The Romans already had made the first steps into an industrial age. They already had manufactures running that were based on breaking down a production process into simple tasks the workers could specialized in. So for example, instead of one blcksmith producing a full piece of chainmail armor, they had workers who smelted the material, workers who made the rings and workers who put them together. Even globalization was already a thing back then. Goods were produced where it was cheapest (like ceramics). At the end of the day, all that was needed for a fully blown industrial age was the steam engine and someone realizing its potential.

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Scott Field

2y↑108

In the case of Roman concrete, it was an act of genius mixed with blind luck.
The Romans found themselves on top of stores of the volcanic ash. An individual or collection of individuals figured out how the ash would go well in mortar.
The genius was what Roman engineers used it for.

DISTurbedwaffle918

1y↑1

Recent study discovered that it was actually the lime granules within the concrete that gave it a regenerative property and made it so strong.

Daniel

2y↑5

@Oliver Sometimes try and error is your best choice, even today. A friend of mine studies chemestry (doing her phd right now) and for her degree thesis she spend most of her time in the labratory, testing different materials as catalysts for a certain reaction under different conditions of temperature and pressure. Can be mindnumbing work but sometimes you get lucky and the work pays off.

MK ULTRA

2y↑1

@Nukular, das Wort heißt Nukular Oy vey such antisemitism!

~~It's not like the Romans noticed how annoying it was trying to clean away volcanic ash using water.~~

Nukular, das Wort heißt Nukular

2y↑8

Hohooo! Blind luck because something happened and the romans used it!
I can feel your seething, moshe.

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David Nagore

2y↑60

I've always wondered if, assuming it's true, that flexible glass might be some sort of synthetic plastic or rubber. Perhaps it was called glass because it was the closest thing to which they could correlate.

colinmcom14

1y↑3

I saw that there was a scientific paper published indicating a glass with flexible properties would have been possible with the techniques and materials available at the time.

I may be a Roman fanboy but I’m inclined to think it’s possible, all the stories about it agree that it was one person who made it so it’s not really likely we would have any physical remains like with mass produced items like clay containers.

The Romans were known for their glass of course, it was exported as far as China, and if they could make glass that glows different colors using nanoparticles like the Lycurgus Cup, well a glass that is somewhat flexible also seems to be within the realm of possibility.

David Nagore

2y↑4

@zoompt 1975 True, but by "rubber" I was referring more to its physical properties than its source materials.

zoompt 1975

2y↑1

Maybe but rubber comes from an American plant. I'm more inclined to a form of plastic

Mr.Shisko A

2y↑66

Roman concrete structures last longer because they didn't use rebar.
Rebar makes concrete structures stronger if maintained.
But if water gets to the rebar, it rusts and then things start to fall apart.

Sonia Gheza

1y↑1

What if the rebar is oiled or greased before being encased in concrete ?

NELA

2y↑5

@Kevin how long did it take before the Hoover dam finished setting?

Kevin

2y↑5

I'm pretty sure that another problem with Roman concrete is that it's really slow to set. It can be useful and strong, but the real problem is more that the time that their concrete takes to set is just too slow for modern construction timelines.

musashidanmcgrath

2y↑22

Most rebar is rusted before the concrete is even poured. 😂😂

Guinness

2y↑7

It’s never maintained

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TNS

2y↑10

Ok, this is my first video watched on this channel. I am definitely subscribing. Great job. Very interesting. If History was taught like this in schools it would be much more interesting to students.

Vicki Lindberg

2y↑5

It's a good thing stones were massive so they couldn't be recycled, as so many smaller ones were. Again, Love your physical descriptions along with the history. Thanks.

Jeffrey Butts

2y↑5

Really great video! You channel is becoming one of my favorites. You do a superior job at covering the details of the late Roman Empire - something I didn't even know I was interested in until you announced you were making this on your old space channel.

Christian Scharlau

2y↑2

Great video, thank you very much for your work! Special thanks for including the Pantheon, which is my favourite feat of Roman ingenuity. When you stand inside the building, look up at the massive concrete dome and realize it's been there for something like 1,900 years, it's simply mind-boggling.

Karen Blackburn

2y↑40

You have a new subscriber. I also remember, must have been between 1977-83, when there was a river broke it's banks somewhere in Italy and a torrent ensued. The modern bridge was swept away in the flood, the Roman bridge stood it's ground and survived. That is engineering (my father was a structural and civil engineer and always had a great admiration for the engineering works of the Romans). Also their aquaducts were very carefully calculated to have a drop of something like 2.5cm over .5 of a Roman mile or a mile (sorry can't remember the exact distance off hand). Something they would have problems achieving today even with modern technology.

Jerald Macachor

2y↑3

They weren't ahead of their time, but rather we are behind what could have been ours.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

2y↑5

11:24 Totally granted for once.

Roman roads are great for the feet, and when they remained in use, that was the best part of the Medieval road system.

I walked some stretches on the Camino de Santiago, for instance near Astorga or León (Asturicam or Legionem).

Hans-Georg Lundahl

11:39 All if it did not fall, it survived in patches.

Lockerd

2y↑3

worth noting that roman concrete was better in SALT water, not just water, and really only after a long period of time. The porous nature of it, allowed salt in as the waves crashed into it, and over time the salt built up and up, adding to the strength.

V. G. R. L.

2y↑49

I share the zest of this brilliant historian for the Roman civilization. I wonder if he has some published works on the subject.

Subhro Roy

2y↑4

Romans understood the fact that investing in infrastructure can help in making their empires stronger..Many people ignore this but they pushed engineering to such an extent that it helped in the subsequent developments in science in 16th-17th century as strong math and science is very necessary for engineering..

Paul Redinger

2y↑5

I reckon they didn’t really have problems with the lead pipes because the water didn’t really “sit” in the pipes. The water was always moving. It didn’t sit in the “tap” until you turn it on like we do. I also think that the pipes were probably coated in calcium over time too. That might be one reason they used natural springs for a water source. They’re usually heavy with minerals, especially calcium. But it’s just a educated guess on my part.

Dan Kanerva

that is so cool , damn... i have always beleived that water should just flow and never stop when it comes to metropolitan pipe systems , but i understand skyscrapers wouldnt be possible

JeffTownUSA

2y↑12

Thank you for another fascinating, informative and entertaining video. You are a credit to the memory of the Roman Empire!

e-herm

2y↑29

What an incredible beautiful video again Maiorianus‼️♓️♏️
and not to forget the Roman law that I was allowed to study for a whole year in my law degree. The Roman influence and culture has never left me. So impressive.
One language and one currency as well as architecture and art.
You can see this today in important buildings such as the Capitol, Wall Street, Palaces of Justice, the parliament building in Berlin, theaters and football stadiums etc etc. Nice to connect the past with the present!!👍

Daniel

2y↑2

@Maiorianus It goes down to details almost no one even thinks about anymore. My latin teacher (many years back by now) once asked us if we knew, where the "v" comes from you use, when you check something off. No one knew. Turns out, that Roman teachers and civil servants used to write "videri" on documents they had checked, which means "i have seen". And since people back then were as lazy as people today, they shorted it to just "v", which we use still :-)

Allie53

2y↑2

@Maiorianus I look forward to a video on this, the Roman influence on later architecture.

Maiorianus

2y↑6

Thanks a lot !

Yes indeed, it is fascinating to think about how strongly ancient roman culture still influences us today. This is a topic certainly worth exploring in a separate video, because the list is so incredibly long :) Thanks for the comment!

Emil Nilsson

2y↑8

The thing is that we only know about the things that have been preserved through time to this day, either by accident, coincidence or pure luck... Imagine all the things created by the romans of which not a single specimen has survived to this day! Just look at the "computer", an intricate machine with lots of fragile components. For something like that to survive the fall of an empire and hundreds (possible a thousand?) of years seems unlikely... The one we have survived beacuse the ship carrying went under in a storm...

De Brickashaw

2y↑4

Fun fact, the exit/entry passages in amphitheatres were called "Vomitoriums" in ancient Rome

Junmian Zhu

2y↑171

It is worth commenting the opinion that "Roman is one step away from Industrial Revolution" from an economic perspective: In the age of slavery, it more profitable to use cheap slave labor to move the mill than to invest in expensive machines.

Investment in capital (machines) is only profitable when the capital to labor cost ratio is very low (when the machines and raw materials are cheap, and labor cost is very high). It is not profitable to spend lots of money in water mills if your competitor uses plenty of cheap labor instead to move it 24/7 nonstop.

Modern industrial revolution originated in Britain because the labor cost was very high, and the coal price was low. At the same time in Japan, because of the population boom, many business discarded water mills and uses human labor instead. Once Britain build factories at massive cost, it is able to produce massive amount of textiles at much lower cost than Japan, but only after large investment in machines.

So in conclusion, the Romans were technologically advanced to proceed to industrial revolution, but the system of slavery prevents it from adopting those technologies.

🏺Claudia Mariani D’Amato🏺

@Tyler Durden thank you for sharing that great read. I truly enjoyed it 👍

Paul Fri

@Lachlan Granger thankyou. Abundance of people and no need to innovate as much..

Lachlan Granger

@Paul Fri actually, this is probably the best comparison to make

Paul Fri

2y↑1

Like China?

Tyler Durden

2y↑1

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Mariah Avraham

2y↑2

Did you forget to mention the sewer system of Rome, constructed about 500 bce? And still extant today . A very informed programme, thank-you.

Lukas Reynolds

2y↑90

They were closer to steam punk nearly dawning on an industrial revolution and pressing forward. Imagine if they had a rail system..

Kosta Borojevic

No there weren't bro...

Claudio Silva

2y↑1

There is a video around here explaining that ancient societies did not fully industrialized because they relied on cheaper slave labor and later on serfdom. Modern industry took off where machines allowed to save on more expensive human labor.

Paul Redinger

2y↑4

They had a “paved” road system that was almost as good. The could move, supplies, troops and just about everything by wagon. To all points of the empire. It’s pretty impressive. The Roman engineers were incredible! Cesars engineers built a bridge over the Rhine river in 10 days. Catching the enemy unawares, because they thought it would take much longer. After the returned from that campaign. The dismantled the bridge so it couldn’t be used by their enemies.

P F

@Kevin Crady 😄

Kevin Crady

2y↑16

All railroads lead to Rome! 😄

MerlinCH

2y↑14

My opinion is there are two main differences between roman "concrete" and modern ones:
- they used lime, as we use cement. Lime never really dries and so remains (a little) flexible, as cement dries harder and becomes brittle.
- Romans didn't use steel bars in their concrete. Steel will rust and thus expand, which in turn will break the hard concrete.
Great video, thanks!

Matthew Marden

2y↑2

Roman had lots of technology, but like many large empires, it grew stagnant.

Kimberly Perrotis

2y↑3

I only found your channel today, subscribed and joined (sadly, I can only afford the lowest-cost level right now). It’s a wonderful channel!

Maiorianus

2y↑1

Thanks so much for your extremely kind words Kimberly :) They really motivate me a lot! And no worry about joining the Tribunus level, because your support itself means the world to me, and tells me that I should continue making videos on Roman history. I am so glad that you liked the videos on this channel, and hopefully you will also enjoy my future uploads :)

ChapterGrim

2y↑5

There are a number of civilisations in Europe, the Mediterranean, and Near/Middle East that have shaped humanity in incredible ways: Celtic and Phoenician contributions for instance are often forgotten - but what the Romans and Parthians did with their knowledge was utterly astounding!

ChapterGrim

@UberAlles what?

UberAlles

Aryan genious

noah fecks

2y↑17

About the possibility of lead poisoning in the water: in ancient times the water usually ran consistently through pipes all day long. In modern times, lead poisoning can be due the water in lead pipes remaining still until someone turns the water on. (That's why they say it's best to let water run for a moment and then use it.) I'm not saying that's 100% fact, but I do see that pop up from time to time when learning about these times.

Neutral Fellow

also modern pipes are pressurized

Comment Freely

get a water filter. usually modern pipes would only have lead from solder or from some solder in a hot water system.

Lord Roetcisoender

2y↑18

Another great video Dominus.
I hope you cover the roads and aqueducts after the fall of the West🤔
I know a few roads were repaired such as in Italy by the Ostrogoths but I was under the impression that they began to degrade quickly with no Imperial Government overseeing them. Also could you cover the naval changes with the fall of the West? Roman naval dominance hadn’t been challenged until the Vandals and new pirates rose in the West. The Eastern Roman navies suffered massive defeats first to the Vandals/traitors or the Arabs when they tried their hand at the Seas.👌

Lord Roetcisoender

@Maiorianus gratias amicus. Greatly appreciated🙏

Maiorianus

2y↑2

Salve Amicus !
Thanks and you make some really good video topic suggestions. Excellent stuff, I have noted it down immediately to the insanely long list of future video topics :)

iGolf J Tweetler

2y↑14

The glory that was Rome.

Angelo Argentieri

2y↑1

Il più grande e glorioso impero della storia, Roma ha conquistato, dominato, costruito e civilizzato; la grandezza, la potenza e la gloria di Roma è aeterna, Roma invicta et lux mundi 💪💪

Øyvind Holmstad

2y↑23

That water mill complex is the coolest thing I've ever seen! Too Roman knowledge from Toledo in Spain helped sparkle the Renaissance, brought there by the Moors and translated into Latin by the Jews.

Øyvind Holmstad

@Riccardo deCecco Hey, did you see the last video of K&G: "Why and How Feudalism Declined in Europe - Medieval History DOCUMENTARY"

It was the Crusades which made the late Medieval city states so glorious and helped ending feudalism, I had no idea of this:-)

Øyvind Holmstad

@Riccardo deCecco I don't need to, as I've seen all episodes of Waldemar Januszczak's documentaries of the Dark Ages. And I see the late Medieval market towns as some of the best urbanism that has ever been, free of feudalism and the citizens managing their own affairs, probably to a larger degree than Roman towns.

Riccardo deCecco

2y↑2

@Øyvind Holmstad I guess you simply have no idea - maybe you should do some research on medieval literature, art, crafts and technology. The medieval cathedrals do not have to shy away from ANY comparison with Roman or Greek architecture

Øyvind Holmstad

2y↑1

@Riccardo deCecco By the way, I think the modern writing style invented by the Carolingians was rediscovered at the Renascence, as they during the Dark Ages even forgot this invention during the small pre-Renascence of Charlemagne. So it seems like people forgot about everything during the Dark Ages.

Øyvind Holmstad

@Riccardo deCecco Yes, first, and in Toledo these Arabic translations were translated back to modern Latin, as Latin writing was advanced during Charlemagne the Great, who invented modern writing style, although he was an analfabet. See " When the Moors Ruled in Europe | Bettany Hughes | When The Muslims Ruled in Europe".

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DeSlatt

2y↑12

I feel like if the empire never fell, architecture today would be much better and more appeasing

Kimberly Perrotis

2y↑5

Metals content in liquid is primarily a function of the chemistry and the residence time. If a liquid is in contact with a liquid for a long time, it will pick up more dissolved metals, especially in an acidic solution, like wine or vinegar, which increases the solubility if the metals. It’s safe to drink wine from a leaded-crystal carafe, for example, if just poured into it, but not if stored in it for a long period of time.

sarcasmo57

2y↑7

I would love to go back and see some of these things.

Oliver

Hey, there are still a lot of things to see. Where are you from?

Mickey D

2y↑3

I remember when we started to work on a couple of these projects like it was just yesterday. Good times we had. Good times indeed... 🙂

Patricia Palmer

2y↑17

11) Fast Food. Up at dawn, kitchens were non existent in most of Roman society and after brief morning ablutions, they headed out to grab food on the fly from the tens of thousands of kiosks and vendors both permanent and movable, some with a few tables for seating, most eaten standing, then a shave haircut as needed, and home to receive visitors as patron or on to other labors, women to have their hair dressed, and on to their daily rounds, business was concluded by 2, on to the baths and food eaten there. Wives and slaves purchased food daily for family libations, afternoon main meals and evening entertainments.

Edweln Diobel

2y↑5

By seeing what remains makes me wonder what technologies were lost.

Paul Kent

2y↑3

I'd like to point out that the high quality of Roman concrete compared to modern concrete has to do with the expense. Modern concrete is cheap. When engineers demand really high quality stuff, they can get stuff of such high quality and durability it would make a Roman engineer cry.

What really makes the Florence Cathedrals' dome truly impressive is the fact that it is a self supporting brick structure. It did not need a wooden scaffolding to support it during its construction.

benjamin franzuela

2y↑1

Thank you for such an interesting, educational and informative experience. Your manner of presentation is also very calming yet engaging. Please keep the videos coming. ❤️👏🏻❤️

David Davitti

2y↑30

the greatest roman invention was the idea of Civitas, a political system able to include and organize all the local tribes and cities and make them work better with a common purpose

garrock uthgar

2y↑6

The extremely tall water wheels where not the same as a small wheel. They did not provide power. They lifted water. Then it would go into an aqua duct or canals

Luciano Leonetti

2y↑4

The presentation to the emperor of an artifact made of "flexible" or, better, plastic glass (i.e. that can be modeled with a tool without breaking, in particular "with a little hammer" tells "Satyricon"; plastic here is used in the original meaning, "something that can be modeled") and the decision of the emperor to to execute the inventor is also described in Satyricon, believed to be written around 60 C.E.; it is therefore much likely that both Satyricon and Plinius refer to the same event.
However, it is also possible that Plinius refers, as the Satyricon explicitely does, a kind of gossip originated in the Imperial court. In fact, Satyricon tells that the emperor asked to the inventor if he was the only one to know the secret of plastic glass and only after confirmation ordered the execution of the inventor. In other words, both Plinius and Satyricon say that there was a single plastic glass artifact ever made and the inventor was promptly executed. They never saw the artifact and when they wrote Tiberius was already dead as well as any other witness of the event.
"Fuit tamen faber qui fecit phialam vitream, quae non frangebatur [...] Postquam negavit, iussit illum Caesar decollari [...] . Satyricon (2, 51)

Oliver

Thank you for your addition to the flexible glass!

M S

Thanks for this. Incredible to think what could have happened if the Romans had taken that next step & initiated the Industrial Revolution. They had all of the ingredients.

Frank Joseph

Many Roman ideas were really accidents. The arch was developed to save material. The concrete material was pozzolith a nearby volcanic ash with extreme durability and self repairing properties when wet.😊

Richard Smith

2y↑6

Fascinating, and yet calming. Your images are brilliant. I know a lot of work went into this.

Mediolanon

2y↑3

Steam power entertainment was used in the late empire in temples and to attract visitors, in Eastern Roman empire there where applications which lifted the Emperors throne with a music accompanying this effect through birds automatons.

Kay Harker

2y↑9

Fascinating - I have never heard of Las Medulas. That really surprised me what went on there.
Great show Maioranus. Bravo !

flamencoprof

2y↑26

In 1996 I drove around Europe: France, Spain, Italy, Austria, Hungary, Switzerland, and Britain. IMO the best Roman engineered "ruins" were in Spain, but the best social "ruins" were Pompeii & Herculaneum. Rome is a plundered wasteland, barring the Pantheon, which is awesome, impressive, and now Catholic, LOL.

Jileel McDaniels

I personally think the foundation at balbek is from the time of Atlantis. Romans typically don't bother in megaliths that large, they were pragmatic. The Romans saw the ruins there, and realized it was an ancient place, so they built a temple to their highest god there. Just my opinion.

Marcos Toledo

2y↑22

My I recommend a book I have read IF ROME HADN'T FALLEN by TIMOTHY VENNING, I think it would give you a lot of ideas for videos on what if you are planning for the future on this channel.

Jamie McIntosh

2y↑1

@Marcos Toledo I've heard of it too and read it. Fascinating.

Marcos Toledo

2y↑1

@Jamie McIntosh I keep my eye out for that book I was inspired to read up of the history of the Eastern Roman Empire by the Syfy novel Less Darkness Fall by L. Sprague Decamp

Jamie McIntosh

2y↑2

Alexander Rooksmoor has written and published a book called "Byzantium Express", witherin the Byzantines win the Battle of Manzikert 1071.

Jamie McIntosh

2y↑1

He goes on the alternative history forum Sea Lion Press.

Jamie McIntosh

2y↑2

I know him, he's written and published books of essays on alternative outcomes of Roman history (Republic, Pan-Mediterranean Empire, and Byzantine).

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Shane Jones

2y↑8

The Roman socio-economic system had a near limitless pool of labor at its disposal, and the skilled craft labor had a social nexus tied into the political process then and there. The industrial revolution in UK/Europe was contingent on lots of historical events. Labor shortages at various times fueled the socio-economic development of labor-saving tech. It’s definitely possible the machine tech could have been seen as a way to expand wealth in Rome, but wealth in its context then probably didn’t seem that difficult for slave owners or adjacent classes. Perhaps future generations will look back at planned obsolescence, or war tech and think why didn’t they use their scientific knowledge solve x y z problems or live in x y z ways

Shane Jones

RandomlyGeneratedName

2y↑2

Money is the reason. If the money source gets corrupted then technology and resources will be used in the dumbest of ways possible to just stay in business. Rome has the same financial system.

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Albin Lindmark

2y↑3

Great content! Different from your usual style, but still great!

Hop On pop

2y↑8

The role of the Cistercian order in contribution to European technological advancements that lead to the industrial Revolution.
Their advantage even though they encompasses many countries and their Abbots meet annually to discuss advancements .They spoke a common language
Latin. Despite bad press from latter years Europe was the most advanced civilization agricultural, use of water power, and metals.

Danesovic

Somebody mentioned that Cisternians originally inspired work ethic that later became associated with Protestant churches.

TrangDB9

In the Convent of Loccum they also figured out a measurement that is a 100'000th of the worlds circumference, precisely.
Bernhard von Clervo was their founder and leader plus they cooperated closely with the Templar knights.

Orkimedes.

2y↑3

13:41
Commander: miner you see that mountain over there?
Miner: Yes sir.
Commander: I dont want to.
Miner: Yes sir. Ave caesar.

Naughtius Maximus

2y↑1

great vid! a little correction "Decapolis" was not a city but an alliance of cities in what is now israel and jordan

Tweety Kid

Those cities must have been beautiful in their day.

BBQDad463

2y↑1

The achievements of the Romans extended from the miniature to the gigantic. If you could have but one vacation, you could do far worse than to spend that vacation in Rome.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

24:24 If we find no round table anywhere near Somerset, it is possible the Arthurian round table was transferred from Nero's ... like his victory over Licinius and conquest of Constantinople may have been so from Constantine.

You know how oral legend sometimes does quirks to chronology and identity, like when Ermaneric and Theoderic meet "at THE Rabenschlacht" while each participated in two different battles of Ravenna in the real facts, and Dietrich never saw Etzel ...

MajTom22 Pflash

One path for the indestructible glass is case hardening. I saw an example of this with a gallon glass bottle getting kicked around like a soccer ball. Then, you drop a coin inside the bottle and it shattered to dust.

Kanal LoucoMania

2y↑12

The roman empire it’s one great civilizacion of humanity

Claudio Ferraro

@Jose Mendoza every civilization of the past had slaves. USA even in modern times

Jose Mendoza

As long as you were no slave!

D Mimz

Just imagine what they would have been able to accomplish if they had electricity!

DeSlatt

2y↑2

As always a beautiful video, thank you Maiorianus

S L

2y↑1

The Roman’s were amazing!

Bobby Tumbleweed

2y↑24

The Roman Empire 'fell' over the course of 400 years, even then, it transformed into the Byzantine and the Holy Roman Empire. Often, 'the fall' of the Roman Empire is presented as happening in a matter of weeks or months. The empire simply became an empire under Christianity instead of centralized governance...sadly.

unu alin

@Sim Sim We can speak about English culture after Shakespeare. The Romans were doing that 1500 years before. Even the Germans had their epics much earlier. The Greeks were building complex machines and writing epics 2000 years before Shakespeare.

unu alin

2y↑7

the Holy Roman Empire was smart and complex, the Germans learned a lot from the Romans and became themselves a great culture. They wanted the legitimacy to rule over ex- Roman lands, so they called themselves Roman. They were as Roman as the Greeks in the Eastern Empire. Even the United States were built on the foundations of the Republic. The whole Western World is Roman in spirit. and Greek, of course.

MK ULTRA

2y↑3

@Patrick Bateman Holy Roman Empire inventions: Printing press, Gothic platemail armor.

Ottoman Empire inventions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

Patrick Bateman

2y↑8

The HRE was a bunch of Germans larping as the Roman empire lmao. It wasn't holy, roman or an empire. The ottoman empire was technically the last of the Roman empire to fall in 1918

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EU Citizen

2y↑7

The romans knew very well that lad is poisoned. They also knew that the lime in the water sealed the pipes very fast so that there was no poisoning for the user.

Parabellum Invicta

2y↑14

Roman civilization was truly ahead of its time even too much. The Greatest Civilization of antiquity.

The_Endgame

1y↑1

@Marin egyptian art and culture was the main impetus and inspiration for the Greeks to emerge out of a dark age and usher in the Hellenic age. early greek Koros statuary is a crude rip off of Egyptian aesthetics. Hellenism influenced the eastern cultures so much that before the Greeks hellenized them buddha wasn't even depicted in human form. the cultural lineage from egypt to greece to the far east is diverse, multifaceted, and mutually influental.

PTREK BOX BREAKS

What if the Roman's never existed??

Da ny

2y↑1

@Marin knowing that Plato traveled to Egipt to learn ancient mysteries, and admired their civilization as many other greeks, and the fact that the library was in Egipt, is hard to admit they didn't have influenced the other mediterranean civilizations...

Marin

@Da ny The library is based exclusively on Greek writers, they drew books mainly from book fairs in Athens and Rhodes, and collected other knowledge from all over the Hellenic world, which then stretched to India.

Apart from its geographical position, the library had little connection with Egypt and should be viewed exclusively as part of the Hellenic world.
Egypt at that time was a strong trading hub between India and the rest of the Mediterranean, which brought the Greeks large incomes with which they could finance such large endeavors as the library.

Egypt undoubtedly had a great civilization and one of the earliest civilizations, but it left little to no influence on the surrounding countries, and on the modern world in general.

Da ny

2y↑1

@Marin dear Marin, we're getting off the thread of the conversation...

But according to what I understand by human civilization, what they can develop of internal knowledge of the human being, defines their degree of internal alienation, therefore I understand that civilizations oriented towards internal consciousness are superior to technical/materialistic ones. For example, the Egyptians wrote the Book of the Dead, where they accurately describe all the steps of consciousness during the dissolution of its link with the body, imagine that we as modern Westerners barely developed internal consciousness, and they dominated total consciousness in life and death...

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Tactical Yeti

2y↑1

awesome and informative, thanks for making this one!

musashidanmcgrath

Fun fact: the word stadium comes from the Roman measurement 'Stade' - which is 625 feet.

Alan Wilkinson

Very interesting,really enjoyed it....I'm a bit of a roman nurd. To think they achieved all this while we brits were painting our faces...

Armani

2y↑3

Excellent documentary 👏👏👏

Saddamo De Beers

I was in Las Medulas in 2019, just unbelievable.

Martin Hertog

2y↑2

To make gold nano particles they could have made an alloy of gold and mercury. By mixing it with molten glass the mercury would evaporate which is very poisenous of course.

Bob Jackson

2y↑2

Very interesting well researched and presented subject.

Paul Capaccio

2y↑2

Another incredible video ! Bravo again !👍

Agent Hunk

can you describe which Regions/Provinces of the Western Roman Empire had buildings/infrastructure that contributed to everyday life like that angles downhill waterwheel trough???

and how many things like it or others in Gaul or Hispania had things that made those regions looked civilized.
or can you psot a list of provinces that may have records indicating what was mostly urban and industrial???

Brian Fitch

I saw a tv documentary on a wheel for measuring distance. The design was difficult to replicate but genius in the design.

nor 08

2y↑5

Ah, the Romans….What have they ever done for us? 😉

Hans-Georg Lundahl

18:32 Hippocrates and Celsus were not lost in the Middle Ages, at least not everywhere (I think Salerno was the big Mediaeval med school that became a university faculty of medicine, and by then Avicenna had added to the knowledge).

Mike Cummings

1y↑1

I read that as of 2023 they figured out the trick of Roman concrete I believe they added quicklime which was a self-healing ingredient

Adolf van Coller

Fantastic video, well done!

Raymond Seger

19:53 oh, a new one! damn, that's one hardcore mechanical engineering, kinda like the trebuchets. Hard to believe they can do that but didn't figure out dipping letter shaped metals to an ink and then press it on paper until Gutenberg did it in 17th century.

Mohi

2y↑8

Now make what if Maxentius won at Milvian Bridge.

Maiorianus

2y↑19

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SeaJay Oceans

2y↑2

@Peter Mages The char coal played a vital roal in refining metals... higher temperatures than a plain wood fire...
Allowing early people's creating of metal tools, weapons, jewlery, and the like...

Peter Mages

2y↑2

Have you heard of the industrious style char coal making they discovered in today Germany? Ground penetrating radar found it...

Maiorianus

2y↑3

@Lukas Reynolds Thanks so much for your kind words Lukas :)

Lukas Reynolds

2y↑2

Loved todays video.

SeaJay Oceans

Well, the fall of the Roman Empire - hits home the need to make thousands of redundant backups. Libraries, Universities, Schools, and Temples replicating all basic culture, writing, learning, technology, agriculture, music, and the Arts. Solid Education of as many people as possible spreads language, culture, religions, arts, music, engineering and technology. Learn from history's mistakes ! :-)

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SolarWyndows

I enjoytd the video it was the first one ive seen.It had alot of info and was well layed out. Hopefully you will return TO THE FUTURE some day Ive missed you videos.

nadiahope11

Your video is amazing, so informative and a p!easure to !listen to.... I wish all narrators would use their language skills as you do. Sorry to say, but English language has suffered greatly in this day and time, and it seemed that the ones whose native language isn't English speak it far better....Thank you for this great video.👍😊

chrishoo2

2y↑2

Thank you for such a great video!

John Concerto

Incredible video. Thanks for making it.

Brutus

2y↑1

Well done !

Lorenzo Von Matterhorn

2y↑3

Bricks made in 1870s are 3 times more durable than 2020 ones... Everything we do is just to get more money... lighbulbs were actually things that last for 20 years. Now they last for 2 weeks.

Gabe Shaw

I wanna live in the timeline where the Roman Empire never fell, and ended up undergoing an industrial revolution in the 11th century, and we ended up having the space race in the 1400s instead of the 1900s.