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I Could Save The Day
The Vanguard Villains Lyrics

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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

John Odd

2y↑322

14:25 - Comments on the stage being very dark
23:35 - No points when you prone at a perk machine
28:30 - First impressions on the machine gun zombie.
1:03:19 Right before he throws it put the video speed at 0.25x you can see the monkey flying long before the character's arm throws it.
1:04:10 - Roffle impressions so far on the first Vanguard zombie map.
1:06:20 - The menacing minigun zombie not so intimidating (storm trooper aim)
1:08:13 - Opinion on the objective-based gameplay.
1:11:14 - (Cont) Objective-based gameplay.
1:24:40 - Dialogue repeating
1:33:37 - Points per kill is reduced like how it was in Outbreak.
1:38:40 - Can't use anything once teleport initiated.
1:42:00 - Thoughts after a match

Cyan Slush

2y↑7

The sound design is so wonderful IMO. the sound of the weapons and the elder god voices are *chef's kiss*.
The level design is also another high marker for me. Like graphics are definitely not everything but it's so nice when it's there. The map is beautiful.

Unfortunately there are too many downsides right now. I always try my best to stay positive and I'll be doing so by not commenting on the negatives.

All I'm saying is that since Treyarch has to help Sledgehammer AND work on their next game, ACTIVISION BETTER MAKE THE OTHER STUDIOS HELP TREYARCH WITH THEIR NEW GAME. Or at least give them the man power they deserve.
Last time I remember you being truly upset with Zombies was with BO4. And at least that was with the crashes + stability and not the gameplay.

I can not believe I am not picking up a Treyarch Zombies game at launch. It's heartbreaking man.
(These opinions are reserved for Zombies only as I have not seen any multiplayer or campaign)

Brady Pahl

2y↑42

Things I enjoy about Vanguard zombies:

--The vibe of the zombies mode
--Operators seem to have more quips & personality then just flat blankets like in cold war
--The gods interacting with us constantly giving us more information & them having a personality as well.
--Unified salvage & simplified pack a punch system
--The hearts allowing for synergy of loadouts

Things I dont enjoy (Besides no standard round based map I'm talking specifically about this experience)
--Lack of pack a punch camo
--A lot of "Doing nothing moments" where simply no enemies are spawning or are very slow makes the gameplay feel disconnected
--Randomized objective locations having certain perks locked to them with no wonderfizz machine, meaning if you go down your not getting that perk back until you get back to the square.
--Perk "upgrades" not upgrading the perk simply increasing the effect it has.

All comments from YouTube:

A W

2y↑1.4K

Pat said it best: what makes zombies zombies is that you start as this little scared weak guy with a pistol and steadily progress to become stronger as the game goes on. I know how much time and effort the devs put into these games so I feel terrible when I have to say that what I’m seeing here isn’t that great. Zombies is slowly turning into a objective based spec ops mode where the enemies can’t shoot. I encourage people to go back and play older zombies games like BO2, BO3, and even IW to see how far we have come from what was once such an incredible and unique game mode.

Judeox

@ryan weston Cold War is boring and easy af

BILLY JENNER

Wtf, u were right until the end. World at war, bo1, bo2, bo3, bo4, Cold War, n if u want to AW, IW, WW2.

NBA

Nope I prefer choosing a weapon before the game starts than starting with a pistol

Mob Network

The pieces of crap are a thing? ! God how stupid people are nowadays

Nolan VanBro

@Spas64 they were trying to get warzone players into zombies, which worked really well before with outbreak. Numbers wise zombies is doing fine, Cold War zombies had more players total than Bo3. Give them time lol, they’ll ease the new players into traditional zombies (which we can see them doing by adding round based into vanguard) and the next treyarch release will be a return to form. Hardcore zombies fanatics don’t understand they’re only a fraction of the people playing these games.

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tom beans

2y↑931

Milo. We'll watch you play anything. dont put yourself through more of this, we love you and want you happy and sane.
Sincerely, all of your viewers.

tom beans

Boys im just gonna say i love Milo with all my heart hey. He's like a brother.

ROAD2HOKAGE

Seriously Milo please play another game... Back 4 blood?? Try that I think you would make big bank

ESP Gaming TTVv

Well said

Shane Yearby

@Santiago Larios well I didn't ask about anyone else bud. I will be here, didn't say you would. That's up to you. I'll watch and see what's going on with the game and watch every other vid he puts up. If Milo decides to do other games, great, if not, I'll still watch them. He's almost like an old friend at this point and generally pretty good at what he does. I don't abandon people just because they don't do exactly what I want. Mentally unstable people do.

Rollermaster064

2y↑3

Agreed

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Jose G

2y↑1.4K

Bruh watching this makes me appreciate die machine even more 😭

murdoxvsp

@Ollie grigg no

John M

Die machine sucks.. and so does this..🤢🤮🤮🤮

Shane Yearby

@Deathmare I disagree but I'm glad you like it bub.

Deathmare

@Shane Yearby Cold War has the best system the only thing holding it back are the maps itself

Joen

@The3rd Splashbrother die maschine was good what u on

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John Odd

2y↑322

PapaAquchala

@Mr. MR what's the timestamp

Blob

@iamlithyo nice 👌

iamlithyo

2y↑33

You forgot 1:10:44

R.E.X

2y↑1

Thanks 🙏

Mr. MR

2y↑17

you should have time stamped when he made the face. lol

Archetype

2y↑461

You know it's a bad sign when having character quotes is the most exciting thing about the game

Isaiah Stewart

2y↑2

@Sasuke Uchiha tbh it’s a big ass downgrade from cw zombies 💀 like the perk system and everything

TheWarD0ctor

2y↑2

@XxStephxX Ratio'd

Deadhead 9351

2y↑1

And there all low budget versions of the og zombies crew

Archetype

2y↑1

@K Kabaam the entire gameplay experience boils down to a reduction of gameplay features from outbreak with minimal innovation and massive steps back in terms of gameplay mechanics in comparison to cold war. Absolutely nothing within this entire stream excites me, it's almost like a beta build of cold war. If you're fine with wasting 60 dollars on what amounts to a half- baked hodgepodge of reused mechanics and assets, then knock yourself out.

Archetype

2y↑4

@XxStephxX I'm not gonna play it, lol. Enjoy your $60 outbreak-lite

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Sports Master

2y↑31

You know playing cold war zombies for another year don't sound like a bad idea, or at least until this game gets good halfway through 2022.

In any case I'll just continue to support you Milo thank you
Greetings from 🇵🇹

BILLY JENNER

Beast not whining n crying just playing 🤙🏻

Jacob Casey

2y↑384

I miss when we got good and challenging round based maps

Charles Nyahay

This map is challenging tho. For my mental state at least. XD

Jacob Casey

2y↑1

@tajeq even casual players don’t like it so that just leaves me wondering who this is made for.

tajeq

@Jacob Casey exactly, zombies was always meant to be an arcade styled game mode. High rounders are sick to their stomachs with the new objective style of zombies.

Shalom Gentiles

@pietro0games Yeah, that's the entire reason we have been stuck on Bo1 for 11 years, it is too easy

pietro0games

@Shalom Gentiles ? It is compared to cold war because the main issue in that game is that. MOst of the content of that game has 0 impact on gameplay because it is too easy to matter

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James Perrott

2y↑852

That look in your face when you said you’ll be covering this game all year long lol

ESP Gaming TTVv

Job loss 😅😆🤣💯sick last year all year

MaticSiiX

2y↑1

This game is terrible

ChonkyChookie

2y↑3

Oh no poor Milo he hearted it. :'( honestly I want to let Milo know I'll keep watching even if he changes content mediums. I.e. playing more different stuff like halo or farcry or honestly whatever. I've been cracking up watching the halo streams and I absolutely love them. Especially listening to the hilarious tangents about primary school and prom. Love you Milo keep it up.

James Perrott

2y↑3

@HaloLife are you trying to make yourself look stupid intentionally

The thing he said is the literal last seconds of the video.

Good job.

Devon with an i

2y↑22

@Le zombie 1:42:27

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ToProForuGames

2y↑478

Everyone: we love perks and rounds. Nobody: let's have outbreak portals only

Tyler

@ThisErwin wrong. Read the replies....

ThisErwin

2y↑1

@Tyler you have to go on a drug test because everybody who replied to this comments says that round based is better you are the only one disagreeing

Tyler

@ThisErwin dude learn that the world doesn’t revolve around you. I’m sorry that me pointing out a fact that outbreak was more popular than round based hurts your feelings buddy 😢

ThisErwin

2y↑1

@Tyler dude get anger management please, you need help.

Tyler

@SecuroServ I’m sorry that facts hurt your feelings so much

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meep

2y↑71

I miss the personality zombies used to have. Even the little things like cracking your knuckles when pack-a-punching, the characters, reloading before a max ammo, and most importantly the round based system ):

Deathmare

2y↑6

Tbf it’s much better not reloading before a max ammo

Lotusstar

2y↑3

As long as it's in the old games its justified

Lotusstar

2y↑5

If reloading before a max ammo gives personality, I'd dont know what to say.

Edwin Flores

2y↑328

Aesthetically it looks amazing. Gameplay wise….. gonna give it a chance but something tells me this won’t hold me down until we get the first round based map.

dubdew

@Thomas they are going to scrap it, they had to apologize for it. I feel bad for the dev's tho

Thomas

@dubdew If it's a test map "to see if people like it" then they are 100% going to scrap the rest :/ and if they're yet to start working on anything then it's guaranteed to be shit.

dubdew

@Julian ok first of all, they had to apologize because people complain do much, there is almost no glitches or anything buggy. All they wanted to do was change the way of playing the game. Obviously the game didnt work out. Multiplayer is the best it's been in YEARS the graphics are amazing as well as movement. If you only focus on zombies it's kinda sad to thing you played the old games. Obviously zombies is a huge part of cod but do you see anyone hating on modern warfare for costing the same amount and having less? No, but instead of letting the dev's fix their game people like you hate on them for trying something new. Granted the zombies wasnt the best and I agree, but that doesnt give you the right to call a game shit even though the multiplayer was amazing as well as campaign

Julian

@dubdew just cuz they are making round based maps doesn’t mean shit, first of all u bought a incomplete game and treyarch themselfs even had to apologize on how bad zombies is, second zombies is still gonna suck ass cuz the maps r gonna suck, they completely changed how zombies works it plays like a multiplayer action zombie shooter, there’s nothing good about it, zombies used to be simple back in bo3 I thought der eisendrache was complicated its just a mess, zombies will never be nearly as good as before unless they go back to how they did it for years when cod still had a community its all casuals now who buy these games not knowing what they’re getting them self into, it’s called marketing, that’s the only reason it sells so well, community dead

dubdew

@Julian and I never said b02 was I was stating b01 and 2 are made by different teams

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Derek Watkins

2y↑331

Don’t you miss when there were no objectives… just rounds and Easter eggs

J l

@Orochimaru bo3 zombies is better than bo2 and bo1, especially bo2

J l

@Lolcow 666 bo3 has the best zombies, what are you talking about

Exclaim

@Lolcow 666 ur opinion is officially invalid. Congratulations

BigDaddyStumps

@Lolcow 666 literally everyone knows BO3 was the best zombies we’ve had💀🤡

Luka Z

@Lolcow 666 BO3 all around is easily the best cod zombies experience when you include chronicles.

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MrsSnipez69

2y↑23

I was one of those few who was looking forward to Vanguard Zombies, keen to give it a chance with a change from traditional round based style gameplay, with seemingly more things to do, a hybrid of sorts between all the modes from cold war with the best parts mashed into one... But I can help but feel disappointed, it falls really flat.. after an hour of watching Milo play I felt there was hardly any progression, nor did it seem like it scaled in difficulty either, alot of slow paced action where I feel by that point it would begin to be a little more challenging, Even Outbreak and onslaught flowed alot better then this, granted Milo was taking his time trying to explore.

On the topic of exploration... There seemed to be nothing to interact with besides the one or two radios.. you are also locked behind barriers so you don't even get to look around each map of its entirety, nor can even stay in those areas and potentially train zombies without the game forcing you out.. I get they are objective based areas and your essentially revisiting as soon as another objective in a different starting area so 'Not one game is the same' but I feel you have no freedom to do as you wish before the game takes control.

I definitely think some of the new features are cool, Big fan of the alter and the Ingame upgradable perk system seems like a cool idea if its noticeable.. I think I preferred the weapon upgrades and pack a punch system better in cold war, the scale of weapon power was very noticeable between rarity and pap, just an even flow of progression.

I think Treyarch have produced a half cooked game, granted this was planned very last minute and probably had no say in the matter.. But a Cold war season 2 would have been the best outcome. Looking at this game coming from Cold war, you can't help but feel like we've taken a step back. When you look at all the field upgrades and the new perks in cold war and now where back to square one, and essentially receiving them through seasonal updates, just a rinse and repeat. I'm sure by the end of Vanguard Zombies we will have a fully fledged game worth playing, but at the moment it feels dull and not worth buying. Treyarch definetly deserve to have the time to create a brilliant Zombies experience, they shouldn't have to be forced to push out a Zombies mode in order to boost a games popularity. I feel I have a sour taste towards this as it feels like a re-skinned cold war, with seasonal updates most likely giving us what we already have established in cold war... All things considered as a big time Zombies fan, I do wish this mode success, more Zombies the better? Goodluck Treyarch!

Nepid

2y↑3

On topic of exploration the maps that were used opened up in hub after completion which means you can fully explore it when you complete the objective. This is kinda odd for me and makes me wonder why the teleport is even necessary. Open a door/get sealed in wouldve accomplished same thing and is more thematical

PhillyDaK1d

2y↑4

What made zombies so good was its feel. The music, the characters, I can’t even focus on what’s going on because there is so much dialogue and objectives. I really hope they give the community what they deserve because this just feels rushed .

Cyan Slush

2y↑7

Arthys

2y↑102

I'm living to see Milo like all of the heavy criticism comments haha. Glad that it seems most people aren't going to let these wealthy companies get away with such a lackluster and poor experience like this.

Jaymz Keane

PorcuDuckSlug Paid $150 rip

PorcuDuckSlug

2y↑3

$70 game. Like what

TheSlayer8504

2y↑226

Game: The World Grows Harder.

Milo: And so do I.

Silox

@AirLight not a real thing

AirLight

2y↑14

Dude it’s NNN and you’re making me act up

GG

2y↑17

Graphics look awesome and the atmosphere is decent but overall just looks over the top complicated and way too objective focussed. Zombies peaked at b03 and it’s been up and down since then. Bring back old school survival round based zombies like b01 and waw

$tirFry

2y↑1

I personally like the objective based play style. It helps me to follow the story a little bit better.

Deadhead 9351

2y↑50

I feel like these small areas could of been implemented as small round base maps like what tranzit was

NeXoNGT

2y↑3

TRANZIT MAP BEATS THIS ENTIRE GAME MODE.

Bart Simpson NFT

2y↑2

NO THAT MAKES OUR CONSUMERS SATISFIED

Karol Clark

2y↑1

Yeah, then it would have saved us somewhat just like the survival maps did when tranzit released

pietro0games

yeah, but they made the connections through portals

Adz

Agreed

gaz mate

lmao bruh i’ve been watching you for years now came for the zombies stayed for the personality, you’re honestly such a great and bright light in the community and i can tell that zombies is acc hurting your soul rn man. i think i can speak for everyone when i say we would literally watch you play anything as long as you say ‘hi guys’ at the beginning of every it’s all i ask mate. much love gamer ❤️

Brady Pahl

2y↑42

SntazSwtyBlz

Hey waffles! Love your content been watching you forever! Awesome first run! Keep killing it

MasterVaderOG

2y↑1

Honestly i think the best direction for zombies would be a game mode similar to rush. Use the verdansk map and every 5 rounds or so theres some objective to call in a bombing strke and call in a escape vehicle. Start off at dam and turn on the hydoelectric power for the rest of the map andmove from there. Imagine crashed plane on fire in the open fields with zombies wandering around. But cod doesnt have that kind of creativity anymore

chris muskett

2y↑373

Personally I think zombies has been going more and more downhill since it peaked in bo3, I don’t think it will ever be as good again.

TripleJ

@R.E.X BO3 was undoubtedly the best COD for zombies and BO2 was kinda eh. We got 2 of the best maps MOTD and Origins but also got awful and just terrible maps like Tranzit Die Rise Farm Bus Depot. BO3 we got not only chronicles, Shadows and DE, which are both frequently ranked in the top 5 and many say SOE is the best map of all time, we also got zetsubou which is easy b tier atleast, GK without a doubt is a top 10 map, and rev was average. The average for bo3 maps was just light years ahead of BO2 where we got a few good and lots of trash.

TripleJ

@Marco LopezBO3 was undoubtedly the best COD for zombies and BO2 was kinda eh. We got 2 of the best maps MOTD and Origins but also got awful and just terrible maps like Tranzit Die Rise Farm Bus Depot. BO3 we got not only chronicles, Shadows and DE, which are both frequently ranked in the top 5 and many say SOE is the best map of all time, we also got zetsubou which is easy b tier atleast, GK without a doubt is a top 10 map, and rev was average. The average for bo3 maps was just light years ahead of BO2 where we got a few good and lots of trash.

TripleJ

@Chill BO3 was undoubtedly the best COD for zombies and BO2 was kinda eh. We got 2 of the best maps MOTD and Origins but also got awful and just terrible maps like Tranzit Die Rise Farm Bus Depot. BO3 we got not only chronicles, Shadows and DE, which are both frequently ranked in the top 5 and many say SOE is the best map of all time, we also got zetsubou which is easy b tier atleast, GK without a doubt is a top 10 map, and rev was average. The average for bo3 maps was just light years ahead of BO2 where we got a few good and lots of trash.

Alpa

@Chill Bo3 Had The Giant, SoE, DE, and Gorod and I personally really enjoyed Revelations. PLUS Chronicals, mod support and custom maps. The HUD, movement, mechanics, were all super clean. I also really liked the gobblegum system, it was very fun to use. I only capped myself to the non megas to keep it fair since admittedly the megas were insanely OP. Sure, Bo2 had good maps as well, but the full game itself doesn't compare to Bo3

meme man

Bo3 and cold war were the last 2 good zombie experiences

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ChonkyChookie

2y↑456

Dev: What if we just make the new zombies onslaught AND outbreak?

CEO: spits out coffee MY GOD give that man a raise.

ChonkyChookie

2y↑3

@HARD PLAYS cold war was pushing it for me but even though it was too easy the mechanics were really fun. Vanguard seems like a devolution and it's kinda poopoo imo

HARD PLAYS

2y↑4

@epepis black ops cold war and vanguard might as well be called fortnite

iSquirti

2y↑3

@epepis Tf you smoking.

iSquirti

2y↑3

@David Capps You did you just say bo3 is bad? Wtf are you smoking?

HARD PLAYS

2y↑3

Ceo: make the whole map glowing like your dancing through a field of flowers

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T-Ice Phoenix

2y↑3

The reason you're gaining very few points, is that it is the canonical equivalent to the CW's OUTBREAK mode.

Outbreak gives you far fewer points, but you can kill more than usual each map.

The regular round-based maps would 100% give you a lot more points. : p

A Hasidic

2y↑16

Watch now people gonna finally realize Cold War is a master piece from the multiplayer to the zombies to the everything, yes not better than any of the classics, but since BO3 it’s the best hands down

Blehh

2y↑109

Damn I was really hoping for a return to form but it doesn't look that way, I guess zombies really did peak at BO2 and BO3.

SecuroServ

@AhZora I think is guy is mad at people probably because he was part of the development team for this dumpster game mode

Burning Sorrows

@Lolcow 666 are you on some fucking crack? Both BO2 and BO3 we're THE BEST DURING THOSE YEARS! good lord

NeXoNGT

2y↑1

World At War Zombies was where it really was at. It had everything you wanted from a zombie game.

TheGreatElv

@CynicalMemester BRO LMAO so true

Antonio

@AhZora more than agreed. Or at least make an update soon to give it something better.

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SpaceVortex

2y↑1

I like how zombies look so far, nice job bro, also I definitely agree with what you said on hating when zombies shoot, because yea it’s not that fun when ur just dodging a billion things being shot at u on high rounds

kj

2y↑165

Been watching this for 28 minutes and can say imo I'm not hyped at all for this. Outbreak was a nice change of pace bc of objectives and the huge maps but this is lacking the map size and there's no rbz to go play to change up the feel. Not mad just disappointing 😕

Kino Glaz

@Artorias The problem with this game is that it seems to lack enough meaningful zombies content TO try. There's no distinct zombies map just reworked MP ones with a central hub. That's not a valid thing to bitch about?

Justin

@Artorias Oh it's not a bandwagon my friend, and I funnily think that if you look at Vanguard this way you'll understand why this game as a starting point looks horrific: Q. If Outbreak was a failure for Activision and Treyarch, what would have we received instead? A. Predictively a round-based map.

If you take Cold War as it was and look at it from a comparative standpoint to this game so far what stands out? Cold War is better in every aspect and Vanguard has changed basically everything that made Cold War enjoyable for a short term and the main zombies formula with no presence of why we're even able to have Outbreak in the first place: Round-Based maps. (Coming from a veteran)

I don't fully grip until I see how DLC content will be presented how this game will thrive if making such a risky decision at the start of a new COD game lifecycle and not granting The 1ST round-based content until a month later as a possible "DLC" is beyond belief.

To come back to your main point, this is no bandwagon that is being jumped on, this is people, like myself, stating points that after years of playing the same mode and seeing at least 1 failure at a COD launch (Like B04) that we know if certain proportions are not ticked off then the chances are the game will be visibly unlikeable. And don't take this like every COD released has had perfect Zombies (apart from B02 and B03), it hasn't so expecting 1 game to fail badly is normal in how the Zombies Formula was and still is.

The Seer

@GamingwithSteve I actually did. Lol. I just really like exploring.

GamingwithSteve

Tell me how much of outbreak did you explore bet 90 percent of people didn’t look at more then half of the map not including it had vehicles to go with how big the map was

TheGreatElv

@Artorias oh I know personally I'm going off of game play I have seen. Not blindly hating. Also if it looked better than this i would careless about a round based map, i personally enjoyed Outbreak.

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Chrispy

2y↑22

man it hurts, it really does. When a game makes me actually miss when BO4 was active and in it’s prime, you know it’s fucked. CW story wasn’t interesting to me but at least the gameplay seemed fine, but holy shit. I miss bo3-4 man. I miss using your tutorials, this kinda hurts to see, it definitely does. Treyarch needs to be able to do their own thing, own zombie game. Everything in bo3 is memorized now, i miss the mystery, suspense, comedy, the interactions with Blundell. Milo if you see this i hope you understand, and if I’m reading you correctly through this video, man am i sorry you gotta go through this… again. shit sucks, at least bo3 mod tools will have it’s billionth year of being awesome and a fallback for actually enjoying cod

Hannibal Lecter

2y↑1

@Chrispy Glad that you still have something to enjoy! If you ever feel burnt out in the future, give some singleplayer games a try too! I miss BO3, i'm glad that there are people around who go out of their way to create maps.

Chrispy

2y↑1

@Hannibal Lecter my enjoyment comes from building maps in mod tools, so bo3 is my prime for entertainment. been meaning to look into bf2042 for multiplayer tho, looks pretty fun!

Hannibal Lecter

2y↑1

This is why i'd recommend you don't buy this one if you haven't already. Try new games to fall in love with, so many great games to look forward to next year. Zombies is a shell of its former self and it's not returning unfortunately, the passion is completely gone. Sadly, all things must come to an end.

The Warrchitect

2y↑2

Zombies has gotten progressively worse with each title

XxStephxX

2y↑60

The fact Milo doesn't use monkey bombs in situations where he's swarmed triggers me so badly

Jaymz Keane

2y↑10

It takes so long to get through the monkey bomb animation you’d die before you threw it lol

Cid1

IF this is what they wanna stick with I'm a bit concerned. I REALLY hope they are cooking up some round based map.
People can complain about CW. But at least with CW we had so much variety with RBZ,Outbreak,Cranked,Zombies Arcade, Arcade First Person,and Onslaught (for the PS the 1st year).
Vanguard better step it up in the coming season.

Vivi

I loved the permanent upgrades in cold war with the crystals and being able to pick an AAT, the game felt like a true step up from BO3. After just playing this with my BF we are thoroughly not impressed. This is a step back into a broken elevator shaft. Like I'm so disappointed.

Squirtified Gape

2y↑2

Your positive energy for every video makes my days so much better

NotJustStreamsTV

This map and mode would have been incredible to introduce VR capability into Call of Duty.

jbailey14

2y↑1

It's different but I kinda like it. I'm expecting the full Egg on this to be pretty involved and should be a lot of fun. Give it time, it's early days yet.

Bill Banell

2y↑1

I dont know if someone else has mentioned it but i think the real purpose in the gunner zombie isnt to do massive damage but to prevent health regen.

MidMOGrower

Super different then Cold War… seems super nerfed … but guess I’ll get used to it. I do like the mix if Outbreak and Zombies but make the rooms little bigger even if the zombies are made stronger. Hope the next map is brighter and more open. Man but map and missions seems too repetitive and will get boring by Round 10.

Raymond

2y↑1

Man, this really disintegrated my interest in Vanguard, so I'm sticking with Cold War and Black Ops III. Hell, Cold War may not have been the best, but at least it doesn't repeat the same three objectives in the same map in a loop that makes the Mobius Strip feel like a one-minute drive down the road!

Snake Unity

2y↑6

Pros of this mode I can see so far is, the perk system for sure. I like how you have tiers of the perk to unlock in the game so you choose how or when you choose which perk to level up. Cons, cannot explore anywhere besides red star, meleeing giving 25 points, small objective areas.

Antonio

Pros: good perk system not OP, not insanly overpowered equipment, fair damage, and nice aesthetic.
Cons: can stay on any round in redstar without increasing and just rack up points to get top tiers almost instantly and not really a point to the objectives meaning they are just there to be there

Shane Yearby

Pros... thankfully I didn't buy it. Cons... this one sucks

MattGames

2y↑41

I love Milo's content as always, but this really doesn't look great at all. I didn't like outbreak to begin with and honestly, this looks worse. I'd have been happier with remasters, or even basic round-based maps. WaW had maps based on multi and campaign, even that would have been better. Damn, that sucks.

MattGames

@Red RuM There’s literally no information suggesting that. There is no reason to believe we will have a proper map at any point, as the developers have swerved every question asked about it.

Red RuM

Well regular zombie maps will out in December this is the replacement for onslaught

TheGreatElv

2y↑3

Yea I think it is worse than Outbreak.

James Perrott

2y↑63

As someone who loved outbreak

This doesn’t appeal to me in any way, i can’t see a single thing here that even competes with outbreak let alone other maps

Leon Vargas

2y↑2

outbreak is absolutely terrible

The Seer

2y↑2

@Logan no. The bad parts of outbreak and onslaught.

Logan

2y↑7

Yeah they took all the bad parts from outbreak and combined them with all the bad parts from round based

TGS Rhoy

2y↑50

In all honesty, I think the studio needs to take a few steps back and go with the old system just to get a breath of fresh air for the community and devs. All these ideas and concepts really undermine the mode, which makes it less fun and less engaging. I am willing to try out the mode once I get it. But observing and examining the gameplay without even playing it similarly plays out like Cold War.

EBA

2y↑1

It's too late... after this game fails activision is prolly gonna stop funding zombies

AhZora

2y↑4

@Lolcow 666 why are you all over this comment section arguing against people that say this game plays like cw are you that butthurt of peoples opinions not the same as yours

Shane Yearby

2y↑2

@Lolcow 666 doesn't play like cold war? Not sure what you're on but you might want to lay it down. This one looks and plays even more terrible than cold war.

TGS Rhoy

2y↑5

@Lolcow 666 I’m not saying it’s bad. What I am saying is at first intentions from observing is that it looks like a cop out from Cold War just slightly adjusted to its aspects. Cold War is not bad it’s good, but just acceptable. But when you observe the gameplay and the overall setup what is different? The setting? I can only tell that the story is going a different route and it might persuade more people to invest than what it did in Cold War and the atmosphere within the map has a nice touch of being dark and grim but not depressing there is implementation of color. But that’s it. Again its not bad, but you can kinda of expect the same in terms of gameplay. The reason I suggest the studio to take a few steps back to run the old system is to take a breath of fresh air and relaxation on both sides for the community and devs and take time brainstorming within the season to really flesh out something that has endless grind and interest in rewards. And I have the right to put out my opinion so don’t bother responding if it bugs you.

Lolcow 666

2y↑1

It does not even play like cold war and why complain if it does to you? When zombies is a literal copy and paste every single year.

Its Maso

I feel like the crit dmg up perk was really carrying like pack 1 isn't enough on round 7. I think the zombie with the gun was program to miss shooting you.

Univon

I want to start a petition to have a round base mode added to vanguard zombies, with a wonder weapon and Easter egg!

N Moran

I’m kind of new to this zombies thing you spend so little time on game mechanics and so much on the story it’s refreshing

Philipp Engel

2y↑62

How many assets do you want to reuse?
Vanguard: Yes.

John Green

@WwwWario I think he means buying perks 5 times a piece to just get good game play, it’s obvious the mystery box is a bunch of crap and it will not give anything good at all (how many times do you have to hit it to get a decent gun), there are only 3 objectives that you have to go back and forth with. Man this game just has too much repetitive gameplay. It’s boring to look at and boring to play after a while

WwwWario

2y↑1

@SUPA SKILTZ Good points indeed

WwwWario

2y↑4

I dont like what I see either. But to be fair, Zombies has always reused assets. No one has complained when the PaP machine model, Perk Machone models, etc. were reused since WaW

Glooby

2y↑1.5K

So they made the new zombies mode similar to onslaught, when 2 thirds of the player base has been locked out of playing onslaught for the past year.
What a brilliant idea..

Colonel A. Vargas, Mexican Special Forces

@Werewolf this aged well

Big Chungus

2y↑1

It's not anything like onslaught tbh, onslaught is more like a survival mode with the orb moving every round. This is just random pieces of maps held together by tape, bits of string even

The traveling monke

2y↑1

@Dan Jim they probably realized it isn’t worth being an exclusive so they gave it to everyone

Shane Yearby

2y↑1

@Antonio exactly, let us all know when you've grown up and realized the err of your ways. Gotta take mom's teet away some time boy.

Antonio

@Shane Yearby and writing? What the hell are you on?

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Florida Jordan

2y↑64

only watched about 30 minutes so far and I gotta say it's looking like a MP year for me lol I've always been more of a MP guy anyways but I enjoy grinding zombie camos and playing with friends but this looks so bad I really don't even think I'm gonna bother loading up the mode until some of those "things round-based fans will enjoy" (whatever that means) gets added

JonesFTW93

@eats hit It’s literally common sense lmfao

eats hit

@Pieck seems like a good deal to me. Pretty cheap for 6 months of entertainment

Pieck

Personally wouldn't pay 60$ for 6 months of mp but that's why cod gets worse every year

GhostlyBlue

The mp is really good in my op

eats hit

2y↑2

@Florida Jordan if you get that upset over 60 bucks or a game there is a lot more wrong in your life. 60 dollars ain't shit.

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Coffee Stained Moon

I've been a fan of zombies since WaW, I also happen to really enjoy Cold War zombies, but this.....this just ain't it

space

2y↑3

I can understand the frustration. I think that for the time frame that treyarch had, I think they did a good job. Just looking back on the video about vanguard zombies where they talk about what's "new", it just looks extremely dishonest on their end.

Nathan Pray

2y↑2

To be honest I wont be getting this game but I will watch your videos Milo cause your content makes the game interesting

The traveling monke

I like the new games but I like the old zombies more than the new outbreak style where you have to start off with a pistol getting amazing progression and you become really powerful as many people have said the new games are much more multiplayer friendly but it depends on which is your type a multiplayer like zombies experience with interacting story good weapons and you feel really powerful or a game with amazing progression and just getting to accidentally stumble on easter eggs

Dirty Dom

2y↑2

Maybe I’m being nitpicky but who else misses when packing a gun actually had you putting it in the machine and waiting…I didn’t like how Cold War changed that and now so did this game 🙁

Not Alfred

2y↑26

I'm glad Milo's reaction is genuine and not artificial. The hype's there for the lore, but the gameplay just isn't scratching it. I'd rather wait longer to buy Zombies done right than buy into yearly crunch that's starting to show cracks...

Jacob Casey

@Jman72898 Hahaha ya bo4 is looking good rn (except that titanic map) and ya I despised outbreak so this just looks terrible to me

Jman72898

@Jacob Casey well that’s because BO4 has the quality of black ops 3 maps with just as much effort and care put into them (yes even the remakes imo) but is just scuffed as fuck in the gameplay department. I’d much rather play a cool map with passable gameplay then Outbreak 2.

Jacob Casey

@Not Alfred ya this is a huge disappointment. This and cold war makes bo4 look good which is shocking

Nipxy

2y↑1

you can see he’s trying to be positive but after 5 minutes there was really nothing to do

Not Alfred

@Jacob Casey True. 4 repurposed BOCW campaign maps vs 6 original maps (14 if you include chronicles) is a hell of a downgrade. Still though, that's better than no RBZ maps, and from what we've heard it's gonna stay that way.

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Tiberius Le Vasco

I would love to play a remastered Bo3 w/ dlc of every map from bo1&2

Mr Gadd

2y↑3

Glad I watched this video, made me realise I was right to not buy cod this year. First cod I’ve passed on since waw. Sigh. Zombies might actually be dead

JJindo99

2y↑1

Dear Cod, we dont want weird gamemodes, we want lots of maps and cool wonderweapons.
Sincerely, every sane person on the earth

Sirlemon

2y↑1

So that innovation thing…pretty neat right? But can we all agree that ripping away the foundation of zombies (rbz) and then replacing it with a muddy one (outbreak/onslaught) is objectively a horrible idea?

This could have worked if it was an ease of a transition from classic to this so the dev team could see what did and did not work but I guess not. I’m a huuuuge zombie fan and don’t want to be so early into the negativity but what good is a house without it’s stable foundation?

Benjerman Horkulic

Well this sold me on battlefield to be completely honest. I was waiting to buy vanguard because I was expecting them to drop the ball a bit, but I didnt expect them to shatter the ball too.

Trevor Hadley

2y↑412

It's making me miss the old style of zombies and how it all flowed the flow really does seem off, just gotta wait to see how I feel about when I get the chance

Dewey Gibson

@Super Dark Halo nah I think it’s twice. The first time you play it and you’re like “what the fuck is this” and the second time you play it to confirm that you just wasted over an hour of your time on a worthless game

getshrekt69

@AhZora yes I realize that

AhZora

@getshrekt69 then thats what i mean by "other modes" you do realize those are there own modes beside der anfang right

getshrekt69

@AhZora as in people are not only hating on zombies but multiplayer and (im only guessing) campain

AhZora

@getshrekt69 then what are talking about then by "hate the entire game"

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MajorLeagueGains

2y↑11

Was really going back and forth on whether or not to pre-order Vanguard but now I'm glad I didn't. This does not look like something I'd have fun with after the first couple games. Feels weird to not get a game with Treyarch zombies. I've bought every Treyarch game since BO1 but this just isn't it chief.

Jesse James

2y↑1

If you're doing it for zombies, don't get vanguard. Lol as for multiplayer, it's one of my favorites in a long time. There isn't really a single map I despise and it's back to old school fire fights

Skilor Springer

2y↑5

"Is this budget richtofen?!" This had me laughing so hard!!

TheAdypoker

2y↑9

Honestly, This Zombies looks like a headshots only kind of gamemode, seeing as no headshots does practically no damage, and you need an entire clip of a Tier 2 Reaper just to kill 2 zombies without headshots...

AtomicPuma9

2y↑1

Imma be honest, this looks fun for the first few times to play, but that’s about it. I would’ve rather had a round based map that you teleport between the different maps, included in this map. There doesn’t seem to be very much content here whatsoever ever, and that’s just sad say, since cold war in my eyes was kinda starting to turn the mode back into the right direction. This just doesn’t feel like the zombies we want.

Jackson Smith

2y↑1

For the first time ever I think Milo looks genuinely disappointed with zombies ☹️

Electricgamer115

2y↑1

Thank you, Mr.Waffles for the content. Not a big fan of any of the new zombie modes (Cold War, Vanguard and WW2 zombies) but i may be slowly warming up to it. Also, i have to say this. WW2 zombies called, they want their starting area back.

KABAR1943

I knew this was going to be a step back as soon as I heard zombies was on the MW engine

That's fine for MP and literally everything else but zombies needed what CW did in terms of movement and gameplay

Discount_Lube

2y↑59

Is there seriously not even a pap camo? Why? Because we can put camos on weapons so they decided we didn't want some awesome camo? That was always one of the little things that got me excited when new maps drop.

x1sirius

@TripleJ bros really replying to a 9 month old comment

TripleJ

@x1sirius How is it even close to the worst? It has by far the best mechanics and hud design, and if the maps were better it would be top 3, even lex, pat and noahj all agreed on that and those guys have 10s of thousands of hours playing zombies

thatsthe true

@Shalom Gentiles i agree and i did play all of those.. i never said the artstyle wasnt alleways dark. The gameplay and design if cw sucks.

Shalom Gentiles

@thatsthe true While it is true that Cold War is the worst zombies mode, the artstyle has nothing to do with it, whereas the main issues are the gameplay. If you think the artstyle was always dark, you never played Shangri-la, Moon, Origins, Shi No Numa, or Five.

Pieck

In cold war you can combine them

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EonOfTheNeon

2y↑3

Milo's gonna need another break after another year of this, hahaha

AirLight

Looking forward to trying it, if it’s good that’s great. If it’s bad at least it’s not a BO4 situation where we waited 3 years for it.

Kevin Martin

2y↑1

I have been very skeptical of this game and I feel my skepticism is warranted I don't see myself leaving cold war to play a mode modeled after aspects of cw I didn't click with

SmokeyOwOs

2y↑26

I swear to God if they pull another "The gods helping you are actually just as evi as the main antagonist" again later on im gonna scream.

Dice

We literally already know that's going to happen since this is a prequel, and that the treyarch them selves in the reveal said they may have other motives

Lotusstar

Clique

The Seer

2y↑3

Well then be ready because that's what most likely is going to happen.

乇ᗪㄩ乃

2y↑1

Thanks for the insight, the game has a good dark setting which makes zombies modes good but I'm not a Easter egg type of player so the way the gameplay is abit repetitively setout taking you nearly 2hours messing about a little to get to round fifteen is very off putting to have the energy to play in the future but them re- using using 3 maps shi no numa, a lookalike map from WW2 tortured path (Bodega Cervantes) & red star I think I will wait till the game is a full package and dropped to like £20, especially if we ain't getting a true fast round based map in a few months.

Jed Bibby

I miss when Easter eggs were optional fun little puzzles, now they’re objectives you’re forced to play through and are spoonfed the whole way through the game

Daniel Mansur

the problem with this mode is its a worse version of outbreak. Wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't the only mode in the game. The reason outbreak worked was because it and the 4 round based maps compliment each pther by adding to the story. This is a spec ops objective based outbreak mode without different regions and no real story

Dillan Sappington

Awesome gameplay! I’m so excited to play it for the first time tonight! 🧟‍♂️

Handsome Man

Ha! Hahaha!

SecuroServ

2y↑4

How many shekels did they pay you for this comment?

Kolin Blake

2y↑8

I loved outbreak because of the bright open maps and vehicles but this jus don't seem like it 😔 seems like a downgrade

Bálint Szél

2y↑1

Milo shortly after buying tier 3 of critical damage up:
- Huh, he took a lot of damage from criticals, interesting.

I know, it's hard to focus on different things, I just found it funny :D

javier rodriguez lopez

My thought watching this whole thing: Zombies Health needs to be tweaked or weapons damage needs to be increased. New Perk system looks interesting. This new mode looks slow. It takes too long for the game to get chaotic fun. Example Cold war you play 1 hour and bum round 20 zombies spawning and trying to kill you everywhere. Vanguard 1 hour level 9 Zombies feel slow in blitz mode. Zombie kills need to give more points IMO or objectives need to give more points. Also no PAP Camo. Lets hope this zombies mode gets better but for now not buying the game for what I have seen.

Avoid At All Costs

2y↑6

Look at Milo at 0:50 and 1:40:50, day and night lmao

ZonianNitrate

2y↑63

never seen milo so unenthusiastic, if you see milo of all people dooming while playing you know that it is a failure of a game/map

Nathan Ping

Looks good but not sure I'm interested until eggs come out but enjoy watching u run it

Pwiffle

2y↑5

In all honesty its just onslaught at the end of the day, meaning there's no exact goal to achieve and that the game is going to get incredibly repetitive really quick.

If I'm being honest, if you combined vanguard and cold war, I'd say that they'd actually make quite a good game. Considering cold war was lacking in personality, vanguard seems to have that part in the bag, the aesthetics and themes, as well as the story and use of the old ones is great but the gameplay in vanguard really leaves a lot to be desired in terms of FUN and challenging as opposed to just 'follow the head' and 'don't die before the timer runs out' etc, and not to mention the incredibly dull boss zombies aka 'mini gun lad' and 'creepers'.

In general I think vanguard is the beginning nail in the coffin for the zombies mode, which isn't easy to say because I love zombies to death but I feel like this game is really lacking in passion when it comes to gameplay.

P.S. Milo, whatever content you do, we're still going to stick with you so don't force yourself to make as much content on this game if you feel you need to

pingeee

2y↑1

ikr they fucked up the atmosphere and personality of the maps in cold war and now they fucked up the gameplay again in this shitshow of a game

yo mama

I mean the gamemode/map isnt bad, the problem are some of the main core mechanics like the perk system and the covenant system. If the perk system went up to 5 tiers and each tier would award you the same tier abilities as cold war the only difference being that you upgrade it in-game would be fine, but at this stage this is just a downgrade. The covenant system needs to be removed or either provide different abilities than just re-used perk abilities, which you would have gotten when you upgrade the perks. Idk maybe one of the covenants could be more points for killing zombies etc etc. I hope they fix it, be it in season 1 or in later seasons, but i highly doubt they will fix core mechanics unfortunately.

Jordy Sanchez

You know it's not good when the first attempt video isn't very long

M Media

2y↑2

In how zombies has gone, I think Milo and a lot of us will take a Black Ops 4 😂

Logan Jones

2y↑1

Hot take: Cod WW2 (2017) had the best zombies experience that actually felt somewhat like the original zombies modes.

Giles Teagan

I love that game

KaldrsFury

Honestly the only thing that looks interesting from this gameplay is the difficulty scaling. I felt like Cold War was super easy to get to high rounds and it made it feel not worth it. Other then that it looks like the objectives are going to get boring after doing them once. Not being able to choose when you leave a certain area also makes Including a map from World at War worthless because you can’t explore it after completing the objective.

Peter Ackerman

I really don't understand how zombies devs have not learned. The fun part of zombies was it being hard and challenging, letting the players figure out what to do on their own. Now there are exclamation points on everything, mini maps, health bars starting with machine guns and much more.. Don't get me wrong, Cold war zombies was pretty fun, but will never compare to bo1/bo2/bo2. Zombies is getting too easy. They need to learn that sometimes more is less

Elijah

Need more CW content to keep my fav YouTuber's going till 2022

Ovusly

Love when you escort the aether orb sounds like Buried

GamingwithSteve

I think the main reason it’s getting hate because of how the round are but the map looks great definitely different

Kyle Stinson

2y↑392

Public- We like OG round based zombies with the OG perks
.
COD- So you want everything different then?

TripleJ

@X X Dude SOE is arguably the best map of all time, it certainly innovated

Robo1290

@MadMac "new ones are up to todays industry games" that just shows how braindead you are, what world are you living in? how is an industry based on microtransactions, pay to win, dedicated fanbases as free beta or alpha testers, remasters/remakes to cash in on nostalgia, and releasing unfinished games that you have to wait half a year later for updates, anywhere better then when games were made with quality and innovation as the main priority? besides are you forgetting its only been a year since cold war with round based maps and easter eggs to do, with ww2 and their zombies and eastereggs right before 2019mw (which were from sledgehammer, same as vanguard) theres a reason cod isnt seen the same way or have any where as much hype as when MW3 or BO3 launched

Robo1290

@MadMac cod could simply keep round based maps and have this gamemode also in the game? one can have both it doesnt have to be one or the other, theres a reason why zombies became popular in the first place, not everyone wants to have their hand held the whole time, some people just want to shoot zombies and survive, some like doing eastereggs "beating" the map that way, just because some like purely objective based modes doesnt mean everyone should be forced into it, you like telling everyone theyre just oldheads that should go play the older games, well why dont you go back and just play the tortured path in WW2 zombies, or outbreak in cold war. the issue is not them making nonround based maps, tortured path & outbreak were fun to play and offered something new, but they easily could make a round based map with eastereggs with der anfang as another option, but cant expect much with activision getting more and more greedy

Charles Nyahay

@SuperMandibleclaw the fans are talking about multiplayer specifically tho, activision is just fucking stupid and wants the devs to do completely outlandish shit because they don’t understand what we want from cod. THE ONLY GOOD PART OF THE PAST THREE FUCKING GAMES WAS THE CAMPAIGNS AND BOCW ZOMBIES. not yelling at you btw im just pissed off with activision

Shalom Gentiles

@Zouldermon We haven't had the same Round Based Zombies since black ops 1. You need to play the older games more, make it past round 100, you'll see why everyone is STILL on black ops 1 after 11 years.

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Antonio

Hey Milo! You know the guns are probably just based on their multiplayer stats right? No wonder it's harder

Ashley Wheeler

It’s actually really painful to watch Milo play this. It’s clear that he not excited and maybe even bored because it’s not really challenging. I mean he got more excited about shooting objects or doors instead of the zombies. I’m down for change and I’m going to try my best not to judge this. Hopefully when we get updates things will get more interesting.

Goth Rx

2y↑12

Can Treyarch please leave from under Activisions grip and team up with deviation?

This mode has nothing to do other than grind camos. Have fun getting 2500 kills per camo when you kill maybe 20-30 zombies per round.

Genetic Equality

2y↑2

So, it's basically Outbreak/Onslaught.
I love that there is alot of talking though.

I think I'm putting my thumb sideways, not down or up.

With the hanging guy on Shi No Numa, I wonder if it'll have implications on the story - as in this might connect to the og storyline.

It doesn't really sound like they improved the audio.

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