and the restrainer or reason usurps its place & governs the unwilling.
And being restrain'd, it by degrees becomes passive, till it is only the shadow of desire.
The history of this is written in Paradise Lost, and the governor or reason is call'd Messiah.
And the original Archangel, or possessor of the command of heavenly host
Is call'd the Devil or Satan
and his children are call'd
Sin & Death.
But in the book of Job, Milton's Messiah is call'd Satan.
For this history has been adopted by both parties.
It indeed appear'd to reason as if desire was cast out, but the Devil's account is, that the Messiah fell & formed a heaven of what He stole from the abyss.
This is shewn in the gospel, where He prays to the Father to send the comforter, or desire, that reason may have ideas to build on, the Jehovah of the bible being no other than he who dwells in flaming fire,
know that after Christ's death
he became Jehovah.
But in Milton, the father is destiny,
the son, a ratio of the five senses,
and the holy-ghost, vacuum!
Note: the reason Milton wrote in fetters when he wrote of angels and God, and at liberty when
of devils & hell, is because he was a true poet and of the Devil's party
without knowing it.
Plates 5-6
Ulver Lyrics
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And being restrain'd it by degrees becomes passive till it is only the shadow of desire.
The history of this written in Paradise Lost, & the Governor of Reason is call'd Messiah.
And the original Archangel or possessor of the command of the heavenly host, is call'd the Devil or Satan and his children are call'd Sin & Death.
But in the Book of Job Miltons Messiah is call'd Satan.
For this history has been adopted by both parties.
It indeed appear'd to Reason as if Desire was cast out, but the Devils account is that the Messiah fell, & formed a heaven of what he stole from the Abyss.
This is shewn in the Gospel, where he prays to the Father to send the comforter or Desire that Reason may have Ideas to build on, the Jehovah of the Bible being no other than he who dwells in flaming fire.
Know that after Christs death, he became Jehovah.
But in Milton' the Father is Destiny, the Son, a Raio of the five senses, & the Holy-ghost, Vacuum!
Note. The reason Milton wrote in fetters when he wrote of Angels & God, and at liberty when of Devils & Hell, is because he was a true Poet and of the Devils party without knowing it.
The lyrics to Ulver's song Plates 5-6 are a reworking of a portion of William Blake's poem "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell". The lines speak of desire and reason, and how those who attempt to restrain desire do so out of weakness. The restrainer of reason takes the place of desire, becoming a shadow of it. The history of this is written in "Paradise Lost", with the Governor of Reason identified as Messiah. The original Archangel in command of the heavenly host is called Satan, and his children are Sin and Death. However, in the Book of Job, Milton's Messiah is called Satan. The Devil's account is that Messiah fell and formed a heaven of what he stole from the Abyss. In the Gospel, Jesus prays for the Father to send the Comforter or Desire so that Reason may have ideas to build upon. In Milton's work, the Father is Destiny, the Son is a ray of the five senses, and the Holy Ghost is Vacuum.
The lyrics provide a glimpse into Blake's complex mythology and cosmology, as well as the intertextual connections between different works of literature. The use of Milton's "Paradise Lost" and the Book of Job, as well as the iconography of the Devil, Satan, and the heavenly host further highlights this. The reference to Jesus becoming Jehovah after his death also adds a layer of religious complexity.
Line by Line Meaning
Those who restrain desire, do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained; and the restrainer of reason usurps its place & governs the unwilling.
People only restrain their desires because they are not strong enough to resist them. When reason is being overpowered by this restraint, it becomes ineffective and the restrainer takes over control.
And being restrain'd it by degrees becomes passive till it is only the shadow of desire.
The act of being constantly restrained causes desires to fade away until they are barely recognizable; just a mere shadow of what they once were.
The history of this written in Paradise Lost, & the Governor of Reason is call'd Messiah.
The story of desire being restrained and reason being controlled is depicted in Paradise Lost. The one who governs reason is known as Messiah.
And the original Archangel or possessor of the command of the heavenly host, is call'd the Devil or Satan and his children are call'd Sin & Death.
The leader of the heavenly host who was once in charge of everything is referred to as the Devil or Satan. His offspring are known as Sin and Death.
But in the Book of Job Miltons Messiah is call'd Satan.
In the Book of Job, Milton's Messiah is referred to as Satan.
For this history has been adopted by both parties.
This story has been accepted by both sides.
It indeed appear'd to Reason as if Desire was cast out, but the Devils account is that the Messiah fell, & formed a heaven of what he stole from the Abyss.
Reason believes that desire has been eradicated, but according to the devil, the Messiah fell and created a new heavenly realm by stealing from the depths of the abyss.
This is shewn in the Gospel, where he prays to the Father to send the comforter or Desire that Reason may have Ideas to build on, the Jehovah of the Bible being no other than he who dwells in flaming fire.
This is demonstrated in the Gospel where he prays to the Father to send the comforter or Desire so that Reason can have ideas to build upon. The Jehovah mentioned in the Bible is actually the one who resides in the fiery flames.
Know that after Christs death, he became Jehovah.
After Christ's death, he was transformed into Jehovah.
But in Milton' the Father is Destiny, the Son, a Raio of the five senses, & the Holy-ghost, Vacuum!
In Milton's interpretation, the Father is Destiny, the Son represents the five senses and the Holy-ghost represents Vacuum.
Note. The reason Milton wrote in fetters when he wrote of Angels & God, and at liberty when of Devils & Hell, is because he was a true Poet and of the Devils party without knowing it.
Milton wrote with restrictions when discussing Angels and God, but without restraints when discussing Devils and Hell because he was a genuine poet and was on the Devil's side without realizing it.
Contributed by Aubrey G. Suggest a correction in the comments below.
LUISTARWIND
Filosofem: I have tremendous respect for Garm; truly an intellectually gifted individual, all of us should honor both him and Ulver for using the art of music in all its manifestations for the betterment of the masses. It shouldn't be mandatory only to Ivy league Universities around the world , the works of William Blake must be open for the whole of Humanity . William was one of the enlightened ones along with Milton.There's so many treasures hidden in their works if only you know where to C
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@arghl9 i think they did. only in other ways.