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Otter MC

matt farrell: "320 000 birds is small when you compare it to the amount of birds killed by cats and windows"

me: searches up the amount of wind turbines that exist this day

google: 341 000

me: searches up the amount of buildings that exist this day

google: 100 000 000 000

me: 341 000 / 32 000 = 1.065625 1 000 000 000 / 100 000 000 000 = 0.01

also me: 1.065625 birds per turbine per year, 0.01 birds per building per year. hHhHhmMmmMmmmMMmMmMmmmmMMmMMmmMMMm

edit:

me after watching more of the video: HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM a massive ugly hotel with a bunch of positively charged electrons running through its walls covered in------
-----WINDOWS???? that you claimed kill a BILLION BIRDS A YEAR anyways, also this will be made in a year's time after the technology was developped, and at which point (as you said several seconds earlier) is EXTREEMELY inefficient, and produces only 0.05 watts of power--(in how much time? an hour? a day? a year? no one knows.)

me after finnishing this comment: closes tab

Pavan Biliyar

In engineering, the problem to solve starts out as an objective given to you. It states intended goals and boundary conditions whether environmental or structural (materials to use or size limits).

In simpler terms, "Here's a plot of land, I want a system to produce 10 MegaWatts to power a nearby village a few miles away, all for this much cash up front and this much allowable maintenance."

Maintenance is key in terms of an ongoing labor cost for the life of the system, and more moving parts isn't a benefit.

You could make the case of less downtime with multiple smaller turbines, but in the end a risk assessment or cost benefit analysis is what determines the outcome.

Everyone from the customer, contractor, government agency issuing permits, to the third party auditor or environmental lobby will verify independently-- long before the project gets started.

In other words, it isn't all engineering. Hope that gives you a better idea of what's going on.

DJ Programer

Engineer1: "Mike...uhm... does it have to look like that?"

Mike: "I mean... it does work and changing the shape would mean alot more work for us..."

Engineer1: "Will people buy it?"

Accountant: "Our first clients want 10 to start with and if everything goes to plan are wanting to buy 190 more"

Engineer1: "Well... I guess I'm making giant (cough) toys for a living then"

Bill DesJardins

The keys to the energy problem are (i) altering end-use patterns, and (i) using the free distribution systems inherent to solar and wind.

Big solar and wind farms feed the grid in order to meter the energy--even though the grid loses 1/2 of it through the resistivity of its wires. But Big corporations need to make their profits, so that's the way we are going on this. This is interesting from a scientific point of view because solar and wind are freely distributed all over the world--which means at their points of use--and thus there is no scientific reason for them to be collected at one location in order to be used at another. So in this energy problem, we see Science versus Capitalism. Here's one easy example.

If you put a solar panel on your roof or in your back yard, you could recharge all of your telecommunications and computer devices: iPhones, laptops, iPads, etc. This is because these devices (i) USE DC, (ii) at low voltages and (iii) low currents.In other words there is no scientific reason why we cannot set as a national policy goal taking our telecommunications and computer systems off the grid. But we are not going to do that because capitalism must continue to make money off of energy. Thus the 5 to 18 Volts DC needed to recharge your phones and iPads--run your internet modems, etc. is converted from DC to AC and then stepped up so it can be conveyed by local power lines, and then stepped up again, so those local lines can be fed by high tension lines, and then stepped back down when it arrives at your solar or wind farm site. Look at all of that infrastructure and AC to DC conversions, step up and step down transformers with their cancerous oil baths just to be able to CHARGE YOU MONEY for the energy you use to CHARGE your telecommunication and computer systems--which you could charge for free off a solar panel on your house.

If you did take the telecommunications and computer devices off the grid, then that represents a major achievement. It means we did something. Something that everyone can understand, in teh following way.

Imagine the power "goes out" in your home. What do you lose? Well, your computer and the internet still work, because they are off the grid. And the lights are still on in the house, because they are 12 VDC LEDs. You can't use your washing machine--unless you do your clothes in the sink. Or the dryer, unless you use a clothesline. You can't use your microwave, electric oven, dishwasher, electric can opener. But you won't be off-line sitting next to a candle at the kitchen table, or fighting family members over the flashlight. Everything in your white, christian, middle class suburban home will be working--the lights will be on, Netflix will be streaming over your 49" LED TV, you'll still be checking emails, talking on the phone, updating everyone on Facebook and Twitter. This is if you take the telecommunications and computer aspects of your life off the grid, as proposed. Think about it.

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Undecided with Matt Ferrell

3y↑616

So would you want something like a PowerPod for your home? And if you liked this video be sure to check out, "Are Stirling Engines the Future of Energy Storage?" https://youtu.be/Be3FckQoDws?list=PLnTSM-ORSgi4dFnLD9622FK77atWtQVv7

Detroit of Asia

Already we sold our Agriculture land to Wind farm.
Try something that doesn't need a land,like no need of blades.

Rural area used as Agri farm,Wind Energy farm,GARBAGE farm for Hitech,Civilised,Educated,Elite Urban peoples.

Richard Green

@Alathur - Put some wind-directors on the corners of the house to catch the wind and direct it upwards. When the wind reaches the eaves, it is directed inward to exit vertically through a wind generator fan with a relatively small diameter. This should provide a power output at least equivalent to that from old farm windmills. The swept area is the side of the house.

Michael Davison

@David Garcia Birds are much more impacted by our built environment than a few thousand wind turbines. Unless the NIMBYs are anti-city too.

Altern 8

I want a PowerPod

L.aE.cH. Empire

2y↑1

536. Jak zrobić piecyk / ogrzewanie z doniczki??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_qn2CZt3po , Kominek Gliniany https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75dss9oCq-s , Kominek na T-light https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEUJsFQxQmk ...

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Anon Anon

3y↑176

It would be interesting to see a comparison of the wind and mechanical noise each of these systems emit.

Detroit of Asia

Mad Mick

@EyeTVideos Fair point.

EyeTVideos

3y↑1

@Mad Mick that’s true! I was speaking more on the US

EyeTVideos

@J VII yeah of course! they’re all in small scale startups. Once they become mainstream to where noise would be a problem they’re going to be in “farms” like current electricity generation by wind. Have you driven through the Midwest of the US? Iowa has windmills as far as the eye can see. 40% of the states electricity is wind. That’s where this tech will be large scale deployed.

Stuart D

3y↑2

I am wondering with the wriggling column.
If Alot of these were combined together in close proximity like in a street for example, the noise from one would be amplified by all the others working in tandem with each other and thus
Creating massive noise pollution. ? 🤔

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John Besharian

Interesting how everyone keys in tapping one one or two of the effects of planetary motion w/o considering any other ways of doing so; reliably, consistently (and with far less environmental disruption), than the one way that truly makes sense.

Bryan Reilly

1y↑10

I always thought the bird issue wasn't the number but the type.

Cats and windows kill small common birds while wind farms were killing large birds of prey which are fewer in number

Leongon draws stuff

1y↑2

Super important point that should have been considered in this video.

Hugh O'Neill

1y↑3

Yes. It's unfortunate that ppl lump all the various feathered animals into one classification -- "birds". When my daughters were kids they would see a "bird" in the garden and call out "Dad, there's a bird in the garden". I'd ask them if it was a penguin or an ostrich or a cassowary . . .

ShimmySnail

2y↑250

Another advantage to Savonius "egg beater" turbines is that they can operate in higher winds. Ironically, traditional "propeller" type turbines have to engage brakes and stop in very high winds or the extra forces can damage or destroy them, but egg beaters just go faster. They're attached at the top and bottom, usually, so they're more stable.

Detroit of Asia

Kenneth Jackson

@Frost Family I suggest you don’t seek licenses, nor even attempt to deliver a product. I suggest seeking grant money for a feasibility study. 😂

Frost Family

I wonder what getting a license for using a sail powered bike on a highway or genetically enhancing plants into having kinetisynthesys would take.

Edward Hogan

and I guess the fact that they have no blades to fly off makes them safer too?

Kenneth Jackson

Has anyone here studied one of the old windmills? To compensate for high wind speed the blade disc is offset to one side of the vertical axle on which the whole assembly rotates, and the tail is offset to the other. They are connected by a tension spring. The tail stays pretty stable relative to the wind while, as the wind forces on the blade disc increases, the blade disc folds (because it is offset from the axle) toward the offset while pulling harder on the spring. It seems to me regular production windmills went as big as 16 feet. I have no idea what the maximum practical diameter might be.

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Shirden

1y↑1

There is also barotrauma—internal injuries caused by exposure to rapid pressure changes near the trailing edges of moving blades

Visnu Pitiyanuvath

3y↑777

The oscillating one could be painted green and multiplied to probably resemble grass rustling in the wind, which I'm pretty sure is universally more pleasing than its current design.

Detroit of Asia

Leongon draws stuff

Imagine you're a pilot having to perform an emergency landing. Think what would a field of these look to you up to last moment. For that an many other reasons you don't want these to blend in as vegetation.

KEEP CALM and PLAY SOCCER IN YOUR PAJAMAS

@Hatchete Finally we can get women interested in science.

Hatchete

2y↑1

You don't find the Dildonator 9000 to be an attractive, efficient design?

STOP TRANSLATING VIDEO TITLES!

Or paint it purple, pink or skintone. If you're gonna design an oversized vibrator, you might as well go all the way!

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Mike Scheier

2y↑329

If you have ever had to stand on the side of a major highway , you quickly notice the wind and air movement created by the passing cars. What a great place for wind pods, maybe integrated into some kind of safety barriers placed between the opposing lanes for maximum effect.

Detroit of Asia

jpaugh64

@Gahmi Volka Maglev trains in a vacuum? But, even without friction, maintaining the vacuum would be expensive.

jpaugh64

1y↑1

@DrZman That would increase the drag of vehicles and therefore fuel costs. Remember that the wind from cars is produced by fossil fuels. It makes sense to reabsorb some of that spent energy, but only if we're not increasing the fuel consumed in the first place.

J-I F.W. BR

@DrZman im sure, the loss in energie due to windresistance will be larger then the energy you get from the roof mounted turbine, otherwise you would have buildt a perpetum mobile, which as we know is against the laws of physics. So effectively you would burn more fossil fuel in order to produce the same amount of energy.

B & L Nunya bizness

@Tom Owen (Piano Channel) Why not just build a rocket mass heater? No electricity needed at all and can use scrap wood.

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Jacob Boyd

We should just focus on harvesting electricity from vibrations. You could convert the vibrations of railroad tracks and bridges, or even tap into the seismic vibrations of the earth. Vibration IS the primary energy source of all creation.

Rabid Hellhound

2y↑63

The power pod is essentially a jet engine that's been retrofitted to change how air intake works, but otherwise uses the same basic concepts of compression along internal blades to produce massive amounts of force and spin them faster. Presumably with magnets inside a loop of wire to generate electromagnetic fields. It's actually quite brilliant but also probably works best on flat, horizontal surfaces rather than on angled rooftops in subdivisions. I'd love to see it progress and get notoriety, though.

Jordan john

no progress yet searching to see how it goes it haw been funded with almost a million it should become a reality but not yet....and it doesnt seem to have any real progress except the funding video!

ss67camaroNut

Hhey. Wait,.... I been called a hermit nut!

HuntingTarg

2y↑2

That is a sharp observation; it's essentially like the second stage of a turbojet, where air (heated in the first stage by the engine) is compressed and fed into a second smaller turbine, that drives higher efficiency at higher RPMs.

HuntingTarg

@Rabid Hellhound
I applaud your enthusiasm and ambition.

I have bad news though:
If you track the green agenda back through its lobbyists (rather than its scientists), you find out something appalling - 'hermit huts' are the ultimate goal. Otherwise we would be building 4th Gen nucleonic power plants to replace the older, less safe ones being decommissioned.

STOP TRANSLATING VIDEO TITLES!

2y↑2

I wonder how loud they are though

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Weihnachts Mann

2y↑16

Great video! Working in turbine development myself, and I'd love to see more large companies diversifying in concepts and markets

cdmac517

Check out harmony turbines and let me know what you think.

Some guy on the internet

2y↑22

Actually these are potentially a solution to a lot of problems. If given more flexibility and made dirt cheap, they could manage water content in the surrounding area, capture water or release water. They can be used to cool a large area by function of releasing the water droplets. There's some potential there if allowed to work with multiple industries.

Some guy on the internet

@notahotshot Ye, it could (responsibly*) be used to improve climate.

notahotshot

2y↑1

So your saying they could alter the climate if deployed large scale. Yeah, that couldn't possibly go wrong.

XWierdThingsHappenX

2y↑2

Imagine slapping one on top of a hydroelectric damn.

Joe Smith

2y↑29

The main thing I learned is that peak performance of the column is based on stiffness, which is related to how it is blown. Thank you, I hope to apply this lesson to my personal life.

TrumpstersAreTurds

If you need help in that area, well, I'm sure you'll find it.

heythave

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Joe Smith

@Oswald Feurst Yeah, it was a struggle. Not sure how it came out...

Oswald Feurst

I knew a joke was in there somewhere... while watching this.

Tze Shen Teo

2y↑4

I see what u did there

bobbg

The power bod wind generator looks like a promising concept but its late 2022 and still no progress as to a product.

However I belive this idea can be used other ways. Roofs heat up in the summer months heat always rises this is a constant shift in direction of air lift, as a wind generator depending on mounting distance from a horizontal surface this will have an effect on efficiency, or at night its also going to have an effect, this can be used as an advantage but it can also hinder the results. The turbine and intake might very well be upside down on this device depending on what part of the country and normal weather in that area. Southwest it might be better taking advantage of thermal dynamics north east wind. Thermal dynamics is where larger amounts of energy are used for cooling and durring the day honest times of the day. On house tops reflected heat might verywell have more lift power then wind power.

Degen

2y↑7

The main advantage of the current design is the huge amount of torque generated by the blades, which lets you run a much bigger generator.

dresdenkiller

3y↑7K

My girlfriend is apparently obsessed with bladeless wind turbines, she even has a prototype in her nightstand.

Ashley Grenstone

🤩

Detroit of Asia

Taylor Neill

She's a keeper

K B

@Neal Beard true🤣🤣

Don't be an ass

@R Same 😂

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Jim Bell

2y↑13

Thanks. I like the pod system. I've heard of people who live in extremely windy locations who have trouble with windmills tearing themselves to pieces. Looks like the pod could overcome this especially if the aperture could be automatically adjusted to close down a bit. Jim Bell (Australia)

Shawn Anderson

2y↑36

I worked for a wind repair company. I can tell you the solid state windmill is such a necessity. The traditional bladed windmills that you see on wind farms are a net loss of resources. I view them as a stepping stone to something better. That is where the solid state or vortex comes in.

bobbybrown

@Shawn Anderson fair. 8 years is a long time in the industry though now. If you were repairing 8 years ago those turbines would have been older. Compared to 10nyears ago turbines are literally 10x more powerful with whole standardised supply chains. The whole life cycle of the product has plummeted in price. A modern unsubsidised turbine (look at UK and Denmark) are paying themselves back in much less time.

Same with solar. 8 years ago I was installing solar on 20 pence per kwh subsidy for 20,000 pounds. Now I install subsidy free for 4 to 5000. And as I said, no maintenance issues to speak of, and everything on 25 year warranties even if there was.

Shawn Anderson

@bobbybrown To be clear, I didn't building anything. I was strictly in repairs, so maybe I only saw the problems. I'm in the US, based in the midwest but we went all over. I've been out of it for about 8 years now.

bobbybrown

@Shawn Anderson where are you in the world? You are importing Chinese turbines? Gold wind?

Foundational issues I've never heard of, and surely has less to do with the turbine manufacturer and more to do with building practice , but that is totallh out my depth

Shawn Anderson

2y↑1

@bobbybrown In my experience I've never seen a windmill last more than 10 years. The biggest problem I've seen is foundational reduction and breakage. Once that happens everything is bad.

bobbybrown

@Sean Doherty yeah that's also bullshit. Projections are not based on labs and in my country you have to realistic performance estimates within constraints. In the solar industry, energy payback in real world setting is exactly as advertised, around 6 months.

And this China stuff. China is a bad country but its not like it was in the 90s. They produce high end products now. I have only ever sold Chinese panels ( a few Indian as well) and 8 years in the business the failure rate is practically zero percent. All issues I've had domestically are to do with inverters and the odd bad panel. But if they work at install, they don't fail later. Same goes for wind turbines.

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Some guy on the internet

2y↑1

There's a certain future in modular devices. With transistors and ICs becoming dirt cheap, all motors and generators could be smart on their own right, auto-connecting to the grid when they detect a need to, and auto-brake if they're not needed. This could severely reduce grid failures and maintenance needed.

Daniel Feldsien

2y↑4

I honestly believe those Vortex Bladeless can finally be the solution to harnessing waves and tides to generate electricity. IDK if their current models are watertight, but maybe someday.

Bobby R. Poirier

2y↑13

Matt (& team), 1) Undecided is a brilliant name, reminding us to have an open mind - so important on many fronts. 2) Entertaining, detailed and thorough-ish, just when I was getting down on solar because of environmental concerns, you've opened my mind to the new potential of wind power. Thank you, dad jokes and all.

Otter MC

MGD

2y↑8

Hello Matt, Love your channel and love the idea of small form factor wind generators. Have you looked at biomass gasification? From what I've seen, gasification has lots of upsides and very few downsides. Would love to see you do a video on biomass gasification...maybe a company will take you on a a tour of a working plant.

KEEP CALM and PLAY SOCCER IN YOUR PAJAMAS

I'm involved in biomass gasification right now, having just eaten some chili.

TONY P

2y↑8

Hi Matt, I'm in the UK and wind farms here are mainly offshore, making their upkeep even more expensive. The government arent doing anything to help the energy rape taking place here, whilst in France the energy firms have had their increase capped at 4% here in the UK we are looking at a 200% price hike in energy costs. Thanks for your informative channel, I would probably opt for 6 of the Powerpods along my house ridge, but a planning permission application is £400 ($500) and that covers just one device, each additional device is another charge. So you see they would let me fit them - but they want their cut of my investment and my savings. We are all being charged.

Greg Maginn

@again If we keep burning coal at the rate we are, we wont be around in 400 years

again

In Australia we also have huge power price increases due to high cost of renewable power. Power companies are closing down coal stations while we still have 400 years of coal in the ground.

HuntingTarg

You are all being controlled. It's about (gov't.) power, not progress. Otherwise you wouldn't be stuck under the thumb of gov't. officials and regulators telling you how you can and can't improve your life and what you have to pay them for the privilege of doing so.

shaggybreeks

2y↑5

100 years ago, windmills were a common sight across rural America. They were usually used to pump water, but they were often adapted to produce electricity.

Studio 12 Archive

And they were superseded by more powerful efficient engines. That is why they went out of use.

Mark Gelinas

All the windmills in our area are derilict. You can see what is left of them when driving by.

Silvia LittleWolf

2y↑6

Fascinating! Those smaller-scale wind turbines sound VERY promising for the future of electricity generation! I do hope they will be ready to be implemented soon. :)

Pink Panther

2y↑2

I agree. Blades are not such a good idea after all. Hope engineering will figure something bladeless.

Expunge6667

I always envision a large, spherical solar system encased in a 2 way mirror so that the output is increased. It would be on a standing rod taller than surrounding trees to make it collect all day, and down the rod, there are wind turbines that have sealed grease bearings to prevent the need for changing out the grease. They could be lightweight to make it so that they collect more power. I feel like it would have generally far more output than a traditional setup and on cloudy, windy days where there isn't much sun, at least the wind portion is generating something

meg elizabeth

2y↑3

Now that I think about it, I wonder if something like the power pod could find a market as a small portable generator? Something relatively portable that doesn’t require gas seems like it could be very useful.

Jim Pippin

Maybe a small one could be designed to go on top of an EV or motor coach and used to charge the batteries

8lacKy

3y↑90

Man, these are some immensely interesting developments~ One could probably put some bifacial solar panels on top of some Powerpods and have a very efficient setup in a pretty small space. Always really enjoying these videos, ty Matt! o/

Own Petard

Since the sun moves, why not have an umbrella shape (partial) solar collector to catch the sun along an arc? To be clear, only addressing the issue of mounting on top of a PowerPod, not general use/broad area. A more costly approach is a panel (or umbrella shape) that moves with the sun. Nothing hard about it, just more costly.

Xitaris

2y↑3

@Ben Allen You did see that he's talking about the relatively small Powerpod and not the classic wind turbine, right?? It's the size of an AC unit and would <100lb of solar panels put on it.

But congrats on being able to read and participate, man. You really increased the quality of the discussion.

Caleb Mauer

@Ben Allen Participation trophies started in the US in 1922.

Ben Allen

Im sure you think solar panels are weightless too. Or did you think a wind turbine would work just as efficiently with 500 lbs of glass hanging on it? Not that it really matters because these p.o.s. turbines already produce significantly less than their predecessor. You know what, don't worry about reading books.. here's a participation award.

scout360pyroz

make sure they are made on something other than coal power from china and are not made with cadmium traces that turn it into hazardous waste upon replacement.

::: figureonastick :::

2y↑6

This seems like a very positive direction for wind power to go. In terms of manufacturing capacity and material requirements, the sorts of wind generators here seem much more parsimonious than solar. This should make them much less reliant on requiring a particular industrial scale in order to function, which means we're more likely to keep the lights on as more fragile industrial systems continue to crumble.

Ceece

Honestly, I'd like to see more reliable and smaller scale wind power available in the Midwest. Solar here is not really as great during the winter times, since the clouds are basically here 3 months out of the year. Wind is more viable year-round in the Midwest, but large-scale wind farms aren't going to help the normal person out right now.

Nathan Snow

2y↑14

It's all very interesting, and I particularly like the hydroelectric solutions for use on the ocean floor, but I can't help but feel like technology has (in some way) done a loop back to the windmill days 😆

J-I F.W. BR

well, a good thing never realy gets old, it only gets modernized. look at the knive for example, the shape and design of it hasnt realy changed during the history of mankind. Why? Because its just a great design. Having wings that catch wind, might be a similarly universal concept. And if you want to be extra critical, you could even call the move from windmills to coal/ gas powerplants, a technological loop back to campfires.

Sean Houde

2y↑16

At this stage in the game, I'm more interested in doing my own experiments to see which designs work best in my area, and at various times of year. I envision a cluster of power sources, supporting a common store.

Voor Naam

You must not "envision", you must make a difference NOW!

Jim Stansbury

2y↑6

Fantastic rapid fire ,concise , understandable presentation of all those options! Thank you very much for that video!

Lee Wilson

3y↑140

Really appreciate the details you provide in your videos. Keep up the great work!

James Fisch

@Hans-Joachim Bierwirth tf are you talking about

Hans-Joachim Bierwirth

You misspelled: false claims made by scam artists.

BigMamaDave X

@Undecided with Matt Ferrell 😎 I came, I saw, I liked, and SUBBED! 👍

Abhay Prasad

3y↑1

@Undecided with Matt Ferrell hey can you give me some news article or journal link of solid state wind energy I never heard about this big fan from India 🇮🇳❤

Undecided with Matt Ferrell

3y↑13

Really appreciate it! Thanks for watching.

Dingfelder Smurfalot

2y↑27

It would be interesting to be able to mount a small, foldable one on an RV to keep it powered during the night, or to help charge up batteries even when there was no sun to be had.

Dave Butler

@Rasheed Khan Ha Ha...
It was my grandad who sent that suggestion.
You might be right after all...
This seems to defy the laws of physics...
https://youtu.be/jyQwgBAaBag

Rasheed Khan

2y↑1

@Dave Butler Thank you. That makes sense.

At least I'm not the well intentioned Englishman who wrote a helpful letter to the war ministry at around the time of the Blitz. His idea was, since clouds are made of water vapour, couldn't they freeze the clouds and carve a runway? The RAF could park a squadron up there and be much quicker getting to the action! :)

Dave Butler

2y↑1

@Rasheed Khan I'm sorry Rasheed... I didn't realise it was a serious question.
Physics doesn't accept energy being created from nothing.
So the energy you get from a turbine on top of your vehicle has to be less than the energy required to propel it through the air.

Rasheed Khan

2y↑1

@Dave Butler that's why it was a question.

There is research out there about fan efficiency, whether to put it in a shroud or duct, whether not to, etc. Wind power converts about 13% of the energy in the wind to electricity however if the additional aerodynamic drag created by structure plus the weight penalty imposed by the extra equipment comes to say 12.5%, you would still be able to add 0.5% to your mileage for free. That's one free mile every 200.

Now this is just intelligent guesswork on my part. My question was to any experts who might watch this video and happen to know the answer. You on the other hand are just being snarky for no good reason. But hey, you do you buddy.

Dave Butler

@Rasheed Khan why not duck tape a big turbine to the top of your tesla... Then it can generate it's own power as you drive.

If reality cooperates!

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nigerian kneegar

ah yes bladeless.

with blades to direct air current

YES AIRLESS TECHNOLOGY

Travis Dunlap

2y↑3

My biggest concern with some of the bladeless models is they still possess moving parts, and therefore the need for maintenance and part removal. Not that solar has no maintenance, but it tends to be more limited and mostly amounts to cleaning of panels rather than mechanical maintenance. That maintenance becomes a lot more important as we continue to scale and the technology ages. It still seems more cost effective to focus on mass solar panel creation/distribution, and then shift to wind as the low hanging fruit of solar completes.

Ralph Bell

2y↑1

In terms of pure costs for the masses, yes. But if these could be incorporated seamlessly into buildings, bridges, fences, etc. where solar panels aren't practical, and are paid for by developers, not tax payers then why not?

Arterexius

2y↑2

Richard Epstein's proposal doesn't have any moving parts. The cables can easily be made like steel wire cables, so they have a higher resistance to vibrations and can carry more current, but it may not even be necessary, if each end is attached to a rubbery material, so the vibrations at the ends are absorbed. Any maintenance on that model, would solely be due to weathering.

Joel Hageman

2y↑3

I would love to see those pods become about as common in cities as rooftop HVAC's. And I am interested in getting those going too. I missed any information about grid integration. Sorry, I lost track there. But I wouldn't mind seeing if I could run my computer off a battery for a while. Or at least charge my mobile devices. Yeah, I'm not sure how a household infrastructure would work. Maybe that's a topic you'd be interested in. Actually, that's a big question for me. Like, how does a Powerwall or other battery merge with grid. I really don't know. But, I think it would be great to drop several turbines on the roof and run everything, whether that's possible or not. Sounds great to me. Oh, and that part about generating as much or more than solar panel installations. Pretty significant statistics, I think. Worth knowing right there.

Marcus Mangelsdorf

3y↑49

I'm really interested to see if the power pod lives up to the promises. Because given a specific swept area you can not (physically) extract more power than the wind passing that area has stored - I'd definitely get one to complement a solar installation, though, even though I feel with battery storage getting cheaper by the hour, solar is already very night-proof :)

Dorothy Martin

@Ryan Poulter Germany is taking down its large windmills as they deteriorate and fail, and are not replacing them, as it is said that they are not affordable without the uneconomical expenditures by the government from taxes.

G G

@Worst Nightmare these ppl don't understand what solar/wind "green" energy does to the enviroment.
The most green energy is the nuclear one.

autohmae

@ArrZarr What is interesting: I think it's over 2x times (2.3 or something) as much solar panels as the energy demand and have storage for 48 hours to go year round (if you want to run the grid on only solar) for most places in the US. But remember the halving price of solar is about 8 to 10 years.

Stambo

3y↑3

@Choas_Lord_512 "water flow is not renewable" Off course it is, rain happens, it might be seasonal and cyclic but it happens and is sure as hell is renewable.
"you cant build a dam everywhere and use them to power everything" I never said you could, that is why we have diversity in generation. Wind, solar, tidal, nuclear, not to mention gas and coal. And then there are grid scale storage systems to hold any excess and release it as required.

Andrew Allen

@BMW R1200GS Adventure I’ve foraged for local wood (mostly when I hear tree surgeons in the area) and then seasoned it to provide heat for the house via the wood boiler; I did this after the gas boiler packed up many years ago; this will be the last year thank goodness as it’s a lot of physical work and is messy. And, despite being carbon neutral, I won’t have the guilt of the local emissions although I’m not in a dense urban area. So it’s just been a mix of gas and electricity for cooking. I’m so looking forward to wood and gas free heating/cooking; will literally save me months per year of time 😀

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Sue Zbell

Update soon, please. Is it possible that power pods on vehicles could then both create and use wind power -- self-perpetuating? Would the drag of it be counterproductive -- and would that change depending on the location of the intake: top? beneath? sides? front/within? back/wind deflector?

boredgrass

It is a delight to see the immense creativity that is at work here! I have a feeling, the mindset behind all these ideas might be more importand than individual specs!

boredgrass

2y↑1

@Roger Phelps It is not one of the projects it is the flexibility of thinking! Precisely because with the exception of nuclear fusion, which can still be decades away, not one technology will solve it all! Open mindedness is the most important "energy source"!

Roger Phelps

No.The people working on these things have not done their homework. They are far too small to provide any significant output.

Victory First

This is just amazing that this even works. Look forward to see when this will be able to compete with rotation windmills.

Lai Shun Chan

2y↑4

I love how all these ideas are essentially the reverse of the existing home appliance, i.e. reverse air-purifier and a reverse "toy", such good example of innovation

James Sidell

2y↑29

One careful consideration in wind marketing power/energy output numbers is where they're pulling their available wind energy data from. Most of the time they use data from an airport at 50m, which is much higher than what you would experience on a roof in a suburb at 20m. This is a very common practice in marketing, so be sure to perform a wind energy analysis if you're interested in wind power at the exact location. There are ways to estimate power at lower heights if anyone is interested.

VK RGFAN

Obviously those structures would need to be in the valley where winds are constant. The whole point of the structure is to prevent birds being killed by wind turbines.

Kyle MAnley

2y↑1

Since the power pod doesn't have external moving parts, they could theoretically install a circle shaped solar panel on the lid with a easy quick disconnect for maintenance.

Dorothy Martin

2y↑6

As a completely non-engineer, it appears to me that a small number of large, long propeller blades is less effective than a large number of smaller propeller blades turning gears.

Pavan Biliyar

Andrew Jones Productions

At 9:11 they seem to have the IceWind generator on a trailer being towed behind a vehicle. Whilst most likely generator testing, this is an interesting concept and a potential future solution for those who would like to be able to overland with a suitable EV and being able to either recharge their vehicle as driving or even just the trailer batteries that would allow for full off-grid power using electricity alone. Weight and size would likely be stumbling blocks as the technology currently stands, but future battery development and technology that would allow for the downsizing of the generator itself, may make this possible. After all, regardless of the weather or time of day, you are guaranteed of high speed winds whilst driving.

David Stonier-Gibson

2y↑1

Thank you for that. So often those novel ideas are presented in ways that simply trigger my sceptical bone. You provided some numbers that start to make sense of the giant vibrator and vertical turbine designs. I'm still not too sure about the charge transfer techs, though.

nathan kilgore

3y↑93

I had an idea some years ago of a similar system built into bridge and overpass construction. The strength of the structure and shape both over and underpass designs could easily capture wind as well as traffic generated breeze. When taken into consideration during planning this could be an improvement to what is now just a one use monolith. This, taken along with the recent addition of big rig wind deflectors on the cabs or trailer tops are just more of the same potential additions to electrical options being considered as alternative propulsion.

Rasheed Khan

Folks the jesus thing is probably a bot running a test or something. Stop responding.

Dingfelder Smurfalot

@Tighe Lutz Strongly agree. Jesus non-sequiturs like that just look like crazy town and don't do proselytizer or proselitized any favors.

Dingfelder Smurfalot

@Rasheed Khan That sounds like a great idea. High speed traffic causes tremendous wind, and in places like Los Angeles can do it all day long. Plus being low to the ground means easy accessibility for maintenance.

Tighe Lutz

2y↑3

@Praise Jesus, Repent or Likewise Perish Uhhh.... idk what's going on in your personal life.. but this is not what Jesus wants you to do with your life. When he said "spread the word of God", he didn't mean "be annoying and post irrelevant comments on youtube, thereby annoying everyone and spreading the good word to absolutely no one"

(I mean, assuming you believe in that sort of thing to begin with. You do you, but this is pathetic)

Save TheZombies

2y↑2

@Lofts Sympatico Yes, I think Jesus would be very upset about how pollution adversely effects poor communities and would be very supportive and maybe even bring us some great methods of clean cheap energy....then he would probably be crucified by fossil fuel companies.

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kent nilsson

👍Always interesting with developments in energy production👏😊
A scroll compressor in a type of air heat pump for heating or air conditioning for cooling is based on a principle that approx. 1 kw of energy goes in and approx. 3 kw (approx depends on the coop value) out in cooling or heating. This scroll compressor is designed so that it is suitable to be controlled by a frequency inverter, then the desired speed can be controlled and then get the energy in heating/cooling that you want. Wouldn't it be appropriate to construct a wind-driven scroll heat pump if you are looking for heating or cooling instead of producing electricity. I have thoughts about trying to build a test facility, just waiting for me to get the energy to get started😮‍💨 Kent Nilsson😋

Hamishislive

What about nuclear, it’s green clean and nowadays safe. And has so much potential

David Cotovsky

The future is exciting!

ᕈꙆᘜᙓOᙁ Mac

2y↑1

The engineers of the past kind of showed a cultural narcissism which seemed to demand that the wind blow at a required speed, instead of adapting the technology to harness the wind as it is… Seeing this change in thinking is so inspiring. Many of these systems have been around for a while, but it is exciting to see so much new innovation in both solar and wind. Thanks for sharing. I have been shopping to find the power pod on sale, but no dice so far. I want one for my Oregon coast home.

Paco Hamers

3y↑228

The EWICON was installed when I studied in Delft. I was looking at it at with some friends while guessing wat it was. A professor overheard us and explained what it was, with a dissapointed tone he said that the proto type doesnt work but that they learned valueble lessons in the building proces. They never even bothered to attach it to the grid.

Hugehappygrin

2y↑1

Weren't you listening, that prof said that IT DID NOT WORK. What part of that did you just ignore?

David Stewart

If you're talking power output figures like 0.05W, there'd be no point. Doesn't mean it wasn't a worthwhile research project, though.

Just A Someone

3y↑1

Failure leads to more knowledge than success :D

Matt Didley

3y↑2

Love the housecat to wind turbine bird killing ratio argument....let me know when you see a housecat drag a bird that typically soars on the thermals where windmills are placed...

Also, could you walk me through the eco friendlyness of a solar panel?

Error Error

@Umbra presumably inventions that may or may not work/be commercially viable.

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Roger St Hilaire

Hi, I love your informative and well paced videos. My take for the wind would be the power pod with the Frea coming in a close second.. like you I am not sure about the vibrating column thing in my yard or on the house seems like a lightning rod LOL . All around good info as always Thanks for sharing your knowledge and curiosities. :)

Marque Pierre Sondergaard

Very interesting and informative! Thanks for producing this video.

Jack Bailey

2y↑2

Thank you for this. I am currently designing a uni project in Iceland and needed a way to create energy without using big ugly turbines

atomly

2y↑6

Living in a place like San Francisco, it seems a bit absurd that there aren't PowerPods or Savonius turbines all over the place. They seem like the perfect local alternative to rooftop solar in a place where the sun can be hard to find but the wind is basically a given.

iiIcyVoid

cuz its a scam lmao

EDWIN MORALES

Power pod sounds really cool. Solar is a good idea but it limited. Wind power seems much better. Keep up the good work.

TheThirdMan

2y↑4

This is amazing. I agree: the power pod looks to be the best choice. You’re doing great work, Matt. Regards from Melbourne, Australia (the dirty brown coal capital of the world).

Bonnie Hoke-Scedrov

This is my first time enjoying your YouTube channel. Great content! Looking forward to hearing more from you! Your video was so informative. Thank you so much!

New Future Ideas

Thank you really much for this video! I haven't heard of some of these before watching it. I m not just wanna install one to my house but we are planning an eco-town with only these kinda stuff generating power :) Hope to see more content liek this here! :) Thanks mate!

Keith Frost

3y↑44

The power pod looks promising from a home owner's perspective, but I'd like to see a roof top model that also takes advantage of attic heat. Call it a combo pod.

paper burn

@Markle2k also could pass-through /ridge and Cupolas but that changes nothing. the attic can vent to a negative pressure and suck air from your house. This is something that you do not want to occur. I mean you could design around this problem but I believe retrofitting would be way to costly. but it is an interesting thought problem.

Markle2k

@paper burn Attics are typically vented to the outside along the edges.

Lilli C

3y↑1

you‘d better improve the insolation of your roof

paper burn

No pun intended but if you attic sucks to much it literally can suck all the heated or cooled air out of your house. the house would have to be designed with no penetration's to the attic space

Digital Beat Music

yes that works fine in Finland and Canada in Winter!

trep53

My favorite fact here was the amount of wild life killed by something other than wind turbines.
Good to see the ideas and efforts being explored for renewable energy. Clearly the possibilities are there, we need to maximize the effort. Being an old guy I hope to see growth of renewable energy to the point where it out paces the fossil fuel industry. There is plenty of money to be had for everyone that wants to get on board. Those that resist or detract from the effort need to be buried in a coal mine.

Ken Jackson

I'm surprised kitties are that aggressive.

Astral Farmer

Matt, these videos are blowing my mind. I found you from your agrovoltaics video. I have a cannabis farm in Oklahoma and am working to dive into all sorts of energy production. Would love to collaborate on experiments and builds. There is literally zero building permitting where I am at, so just about any installation is within reason. :)

Todd

Ummm... 'blowing' your mind?

Paul O'DWYER

Great work mate. All the facts as usual. You have assembled a great package of audio & visual .I love your work.

KrK007

3y↑13

I really like the power pod design... I could see insects or even birds trying to nest in the things though if you had some windless days. Might be a consideration for where you mount it, you might need to access it for inspection/cleaning.

I Collect Stories

3y↑3

I think if you position the blades close enough to the housing, that might be enough to exclude birds.
I would like to know what a wasp thinks of it.
You're gonna need to clean it yearly, I suppose, for blown dust, etc. Hopefully a garden hose would be enough. Or maybe just throw the blade into the dishwasher, if that doesn't trouble your mind.

Jorge Otolio

This is fascinating. I only have concerns about the PowerPod when it comes to insects—is it safe for them?

Brussels Sprouts

2y↑4

Great video. I started work in 1977 for the UK Department of Energy, and wind, wave and solar power were all being researched way back then, but it was probably the oil and gas industries lobbyists that killed the ideas off otherwise they would have been here sooner and be more advanced. Thank you!

Adam Plevey

I'm sure they didn't kill the ideas off, as much as they buy up all the good stuff (alt tech) shelve or develop the concept but not
Bring it to market. And when they finally run outta oil and gas they will roll out there clean energy alternatives.

Dorothy Martin

Wind power on a smaller scale would be much more practical in my area than solar, IMHO, as there is lots of wind both summer and winter, but is very cloudy in the winter. I also think smaller windmills used as an auxiliary charging would be much more practical than trying to have whole house wind energy or vast wind farms. Was very interested in the new "wind wall" an inventor has come up with that employs a large number of mini wind generator fans. Looks like it holds promise for homeowners.

Just Doing It Jim

I was never attracted to renewables due to climate change. I'm more interested in their ability to make free electricity for me. I know there's always maintenance and an up front cost, but a system that saves me money always has my interest!

matterhorn731

3y↑551

5:04 "Warning, it looks a little weird."
Just wait until they start installing spherical batteries at the base to store excess power. You know, in pairs. For redundancy! 😁

DJ Programer

Cheese Miser

@anubis44 nah, i think the liquid should be a coolant

TY Harris

And a cooling system that shoots water out the top and down the sides.

The Super You

whyyyyyaaaaaaa

antipoti

@Apathy Guy for real? 😅

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Anton Nym

Nice reporting! My favorite is the oscillating vertical rod, which I call the "Wiggle Wand". Simpler is better. All good wishes!

TimberGeek

I set my roof at solar optimum and planned on a pair of small wind generators on the cupolas of a future barn but a lack of funds (partially to create local zoning regulations) killed the whole project.

Taj Hayes

LUV the POWER POD design!! CAN'T wait 2 get my hands on a couple of those!! They R GREAT low maintenance units tht R small yet mighty & move much like the breathers on a roof top. AWESOME concept in my opinion!!

Bill DesJardins

smart451cab

1y↑2

I was interested enough in the Halcion PowerPod to seek out their website (today 12/5/22). They'd had 2022 as being their target for going into production, but have failed in that goal.

1flyjc

Thanks for the great info. The question I have is, how will the smaller wind turbines hole up when used on beach front homes? Considering salt content of the air.

Marjake

If we are to be able to disconnect from the grid, we need to have more than one source of energy generation. I had thought of solar panels and wind turbines (no blades) but I also thought of having a mentos wheel. Yes, there are moving parts but once it is put into motion nothing stops it. What do you think?

SomeoneCommenting

9:11 that is perfect, you can put one of those turbines in a vehicle or a boat and the movement of the vehicle itself can help generate energy if there is no wind. I've always had a question: many of these things cannot withstand very high winds. But take for example, during a hurricane, electric power fails a lot, yet you have a huge amount of wind energy for a couple of hours precisely when the grid power goes down. Has anyone ever designed a home turbine that could be used in extreme conditions? Like, what about making one that can work during those terrible storms in Antarctica? Those guys could have free energy to use for heating, etc.

Don Daniels

I'm sure you would not be more than 100% efficient, you would burn more extra fuel (or electrons) pushing the extra air drag than you could gain from the generator.

C T

3y↑18

It's so great to see a development race in this industry, it's really what we've needed for decades and thanks to campaigners pushing this issue and ultimately changing public opinion it really feels like we're entering a power revolution. Every time I check in on what's new it feels like there's been another ten developments, it's awesome to watch and I really feel as though traditional dirty energy could be a thing of the past in the next 20 years.

Hugehappygrin

Oh boy, you have been drinking the Kool-Aid. What you call dirty energy is exactly what makes clean energy work at all. Think about all of the products created with the use of fossil fuels. A great example is plastics(plural). Apparently you have no idea what crude oil becomes.

Andy Milic

Awesome looking little thing that works better than solar panels , completely safe around kids and pets ect, can be put almost anywhere, wicked invention , knew there had to be better energy harvesting devices coming, looks like the next big thing, the Bezos wind vibrator gadget has merit also
Massive wind turbines always seemed to have been defeating their own purposes, really

Chris Petersen

Sadly wind power is restricted in many countries due to outdated regulations resulting in turbines only running at 30 - 40% capacity (Goes for both national and on a EU basis).

The Rogue of Space

Awesome vid, Matt, some of these concepts were seriously cool! & Wowza those bird #s in comparison to domestic kitties. It'll be even better to lower that figure with wind generators of the future 🌬⚡💚

Gumdrop Meadowz

Imagine a small power pod or ...wiggling stick... extending out of electric cars at night, catching a few kilowatts without the need of a manual recharge. As electric vehicles become more and more efficient with each kilowatt, this could really make for a wonderful boon added!

Julian Cantarelli

3y↑3.5K

The fact that you could maintain an stratight face talking about the Dildotron 2000 Generator is amazing.

Shadow Master

Hahaha! How bout elon must rockets?

Beakeman 95

And it can also vibrate lol

Bradd Wickert

Women would come for miles to see that vibrate. The faster the better they say!

cinegraphics

@k goblin I'm not aware of any place where sun always shines entire day and night all year. At least not on planet Earth. And wind is even less present. So you would need abnormally large and very expensive energy storage systems for solar and wind to make them somewhat constant. Totally infeasible. It's only good for remote areas to provide some (unreliable) energy in cases they gave no connection to the grid.

On the other hand, every country (except say, Vatican) has a river that can be used for powering turbines. Even without a dam. But especially with a dam. One big dam with a power plant can replace a nuclear power plant. And the artificial lake is also useful for drinking water and irrigation.

Regarding geothermal, it's everywhere. I mean everywhere. It just depends how deep you have to drill. And thanks to oil industry drilling nowadays is deeper and chaper than ever. If you need just heating, that's also great, because most of energy is spent on heating anyway. But if you drill deeper (say 3 km) and you use gas under low pressure, you can increase the output temperature to any level.

Same as air condition can extract heat from a room and send it out to an even warmer surrounding. But greenies hate geothermal. And they hate hydro. They hate every constant and reliable source.

Garry Horvath

LMAO. Nothing but good vibrations.

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Debbie Kossar

2y↑1

I’ve always thought that generating the electricity where it is being used is the best way to go. Thanks!

Grant McInnes

We used to do that. Why did we stop?

Cheese Miser

Yeah. Cities should get the windtowers around them to enjoy. Not to mention the millions of square foot of surface area that could have solar panels

L L

The power pod sounds fantastic, I'd certainly put one on my roof if I had the money

Fina Rodriguez

Love the power pot design!😂. Had a vision seeing these all over the city getting free electricity.

ciaranbrk

The power pod looks interesting and perfect for Ireland roughly 100 kilowatts shy of the average energy consumption per annum.

Hernan

Maybe the Power Pods could probably be stacked on top of each other so save space, making them more space efficient that other alternatives.

Nickmade Stupid Video

We definitely need more modern alternatives to current wind tech

Malcolm

2y↑6

Genuinely, hearing about all these different clean energy ideas is such a breath of fresh air. This channel is really great

Voor Naam

still, here you got part 2.

Voor Naam

Why the Fluor don't you type that lovely tiny DOT concluding your comment? It is complete now

b4tm4n rubin

I would have a powerpod on my house any day over a solar panel. Hope they become mass produced soon and available in the UK with the current price of electricity these days

Stuart Lloyd

Well done, Matt, for getting through that video. You have more willpower than me.

G0atR1d3r

Exiting developments, yet im still sceptical. Considering the bladeless vibration towser, they would need to have much more of a foundation area to stay stable. Can they be build in parts to ensure transport, like the tradtional mills? And for the small concepts: neat, but considering that energy is raised to the power of three , one cannot expect much potential near the ground - expect for coastal areas without much build on it.

Potrimpo

I'm hoping in 30 years time, people would never understand how we lived without green energy like wind, solar or hydroelectric.

Kevin Whitehead

While not bladeless, another wind energy generation idea I find fun are balloon turbines. Can see them in San Franksokyo from the Disney movie Big Hero 6. Obviously has its flaws, but I think its a fun way of harnesses the wind energy found at higher altitudes.

Igziabeher

3y↑11

There is also the O-Wind which was developed by students at the University of Lancaster and won the UK’s James Dyson Award in 2018 that shows a lot of promise for harvesting the turbulent air found in most cities. Looking forward to see how they turn it into an electricity generating machine. Thanks for the video, you just won over a new subscriber.

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