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Most interesting comment from YouTube:

JonatasAdoM

I love looking into this stuff, becauase we often realize we contradict ourselves or learn things that in practice don't apply.

Opticians will tell you to never clean with alcohol, but lens cleaners are mainly alcohol.

We use alcohol and yet it is often associated with AR coat removal because it is a solvent.

You say not to use Vodka. Well, it is distilled alcohol (like the water we're supposed to wash glasses with), but at the same time Ethanol, an alcohol that on my opinion is less aggressive than Isopropryl (I'll never understand how the US uses it instead of Ethyl) and Isopropyl is almost 100% pure hand wrecking alcohol.

Vodka is purer still. No desnaturant.

All comments from YouTube:

David Reynolds

4y↑62

Remember to keep an eye on the rear element as well. Condensation can eventually leave a film on it so it looks clean but your photos start getting soft.

Post. Color. Gear.

4y↑26

Thanks for pointing out the pressure needed to damage the front element, Chris. I've told people that in the past. The glass on lenses isn't the same as some cheap window glass. It can take some beating and still not "crack".

Žiga Auer

43w

Normal glass is harder than most steel, so generally if you're not actively trying to damage your lens with something like a kitchen utensil you should mostly be ok. But yeah, be careful with for example sand, because sand has silica, which is much harder than glass, hence why you can easily damage glass with sand.

Ed

4y↑34

Would love to see a video on different approaches to getting rid of lens fungus. I've seen people use UV (UV-A, UV-B, UV-C, or just natural sunlight) Isopropyl Alcohol, Hydrogen Peroxide and Ammonia. I've often wondered what the best options are when trying to preserve lens coatings.

Kraťas

2y↑1

Alcohol soaked cloth worked for me.

Brenton Akoname

@Kraťas did you mixed water or just pure isopropyl alcohol?

Zala Senior

Hyperol

JonatasAdoM

Vinegar is acidic so probabbly not a good idea, but.. Clear alcohol vinegar?

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problemat1que

4y↑5

Mirrorless cameras have lead to a huge growth in usage of vintage lenses, so I want to chime in and along with many other commenters ask for a video on vintage lens cleaning: oily aperture blades, oil on internal elements, oil that has solidified, and remove black paint around lens mounts are good topics. Fungus is probably not fixable, so that's just a mention.

Maxfli82

4y↑1

Chris, great content. Thanks to the lenses for taking one for the team. One question I have is can you use “expired” lens cleaning solutions. I just found an old bottle of Zeiss lens cleaning solution when cleaning out my bag. Don’t know how old it is but if I were to guess maybe 5 to 10 years old. There’s no expiration date printed on any of most of these cleaners. So are the solutions still good to use?

Street_Biologist

4y↑15

I would always vote for the UV filter. Back in 2011, I fell down over 30 ft while hiking on top of a volcano in Ecuador. My left shoulder was dislocated and three nails were ripped off! My Nikon D90 was hanging from my neck. The UV filter was completely broken but the 18-200mm survived and it still works!!

Trevuhhhhh

2y↑1

How was the recovery

Roque Macias

Holy, hope your recovery has been well and that you're all good now!

Gerald Williams

4y↑43

Loved the scene with your daughter, deserves an Oscar. Thanks for this informative and fun video. One of the reasons I use protective filters over my expensive glass. Cheers

Anonymous

3y↑1

The most difficult part about cleaning a lens, that you didn't address, is how to get the gunk out of the outside edge of the lens. The smaller the lens, the more difficult it is to get into that junction of the glass and metal body.

Tania Delohery-Duffy

2y↑1

As a new camera owner who is still cringing at how much it cost, I find your videos entertaining but SO uncomfortable to watch! :D I find myself grimacing and wanting to switch off haha. Love it though, very funny (but informative) videos :) Takes the boredom out of learning something new so thank you x

Dave Cramer

3y↑6

I physically was pained with the nail part. When I was a camera assistant I used to have to carry around whole cases of rented Zeiss prime lenses for movie cameras, usually F2 or T1.2 types and the nail part, it gave me chills.

Michael Cox

4y↑1

I remember the horror I felt when I was changing lenses standing on a ledge: Canon F1, 85mm coming off for a wide, and watching the 85 go bounce, bounce, bounce onto the rocks. It wasn't cleaning it needed, it was CPR.
Now on another topic, I would really really like to see you do a video on something that hasn't been covered yet: the proliferation of video formats: what is the what, and why, and do we really need 8K to film the kids (like: is that home movie going to be shown at an Imax theatre? really?)

Jeep Joseph

I wanna know the file size of dng on a galaxy s20. And what did you do with the 85mm?

Maxfli82

4y↑4

I remember getting so nervous and ocd on my first lens cleaning session 13 years ago when I got my first dslr. I laid out everything, wore gloves, and literally was in a closed room for no distractions. If I there was a class 100 clean room I probably would have paid to use that too. Haha. I’ve become a little more mellow with cleaning since then.

Wholelottarosie1776

2y↑1

Hahaha that's a funny description.

Planet Pearse

bruh hahahaha i couldn’t be more opposite. First time I got a new lens, it was a rainstorm, I changed my lens out in the rain with the sensor open fumbling with the caps taking forever… everything got wet even my sensor a little bit so i just dried my lenses and camera with the sleeve and inside of my hoodie. Still to this day I am reckless when changing lenses its pretty bad lmao I just take my lenses off whenever and wherever. Probably why I have this annoying sensor spot now 😂

Joseph Mina

Same approach would work for telescopes with a refractor lens or ocular glass. However, I wonder if the same suggestions apply to telescopic mirrors found in reflectors, dobsonians etc?

Sizwe Mkhize

4y↑1

Thanks very much for the vid. Bought a camera a few weeks ago (has not been delivered because of covid). And I've been so excited with its delivery that I completely forgot about the practical realities of having one. So the timing of this video could not have been more perfect. Thank you.

p.s. I picked my first camera (X-T30) based on everything I've read and watched from DPReview. Thanks again.

Joel Kleiner

Chris, I was waiting to hear what your thoughts are about UV Filters. I guess there was no clear point about using them on lenses. I use them often, they have saved a lens or two from serious damage in the field. Thanks for your information.

Christian Fenech

Would enjoy to see a video in which you explain the best ways to store your lenses. There are various opinions over the internet on the matter, still would be interested to see your opinion on the subject. Many say don't leave in the bag, put them somewhere on a shelve, use an airtight box with silica gel (for humidity), don't leave in warm places, don't leave them in the dark etc.... :)

Dylan Thissen

Just wondering for what reason would you never consider using ethanol (obviously not in the vodka solution) but I have used 96% lab grade ethanol without a problem to clean lenses and finder screens and never had any problems so far. Is there any knowledge you might impart to me on that? Would love to know if it’s damaging coatings or anything. I just wiped a bit on an old 1954 leitz 9cm elmar and seems fine but then again I also got the lens for 50€ and it has balsamic separation anyway.

Lee Voluntad

3y↑2

You guys are my heroes👌 I really appreciate your attention to these types of topics. So many great contributions to the photo community, appreciations!

RVG1

Always enjoy your videos. Thanks for the information on cleaning lenses. Now could you do one on how to safely clean your camera body's and what insect repellants not to use that can damage your camera.

jprchri

4y↑22

I'd like you to test just how dirty a lens has to get before it causes noticeable image degradation. I'm guessing a lot more than most people think...

Mark Pollon

jprchri I was thinking the same thing!

CAGF

4y↑3

For sure, and it's a good idea not to overclean your lenses.. a few specs of dust won't affect your photos

hautehussey

Of you’re talking haze, not much at all actually.

Maxfli82

4y↑2

I think lensrentals did a test like this years ago and even with a cracked lens, image quality was great. But I agree if you guys do one of these tests, it’d be great

Larry Langgard

2y↑1

I’d like to see some info on that, too. And on what effect, if any, dust that’s inside the lens can have on picture quality.

magottyk

The problem isn't cleaning lenses (just don't until absolutely required, use your puffer or brush for large dust particles the small stuff can be ignored for the most part), it's the fact you have so many broken lenses.

Classic Lenses Podcast

A well scratched front element can produce excellent effects! We call it sand-socking. Just take a trip to the beach, walk around the shoreline, then then use the damp and sandy sock to improve your too clinical lens. Extra points for salt water.

! tomekyo

I don't know how you're getting oil and grease on your lenses but I don't (most of the time at least) So using breath as lubricant is in most cases sufficient and completely safe thing to do and certainly better than rubbing the front element without any lubrication.

Terry Wallace

I have had two of the Canon G Series with the collapsible oil coated lenses. I had to send both off for repair due to scratches in the coating. I've learned to care for my G-16 better than I did my G-10. I used to hike with the camera on and the lens out thinking I would drain the battery as often as I used it. (key lesson, batteries are cheaper so I always carry a spare). For my larger DSLR I always use a UV filter, and I never have problems with scratching the filter. How did I damage the G series lens coating so easily?

Chad Fjerstad

2y↑1

This guy seems like a really good guy to know. All the bonus humor in this video is incredibly on point.

Selfpowered

4y↑1

Thanks guys, I saw an interesting blog post once showing the how damaged a lens front element was, and the images that it produced as a result. That could be an interesting one to test as they were getting images out of a lens with a completely smashed front element that just looked like someone took a photo on their phone without cleaning the camera first.

Fabian Ruf

thanks for the video! interesting that you like the moist sealed wipes. I am wearing glasses all my life and those always scratch the glass the most. every optician says to ovoid those, as the alcohol evaporates so quickly that they mostly just wipe the dust around your lenses, hence creating scratches quickly. so you would usually need to get rid of all the dust before using those - but if you like them and use them, i assume u didnt have the problem yet? ok never mind, you explained it :) important to clean the lens before using those.

Camera Conspiracies

4y↑261

Jordan trying to kill you, and you being saved by random camera gear needs to become a thing.

Thomas Haynes

4y↑3

Yes.....This.

The Wolfhound

4y↑7

This does not look like this is the first time this has happened, I am now thinking how long has this been going on, how many times in the middle of their reviews has Jordan randomly tried to kill Chris!!?? HOW MANY!!!!

staplercut

4y↑4

@The Wolfhound A number that is pointless to express as a number.

Chris Niccolls

4y↑11

@The Wolfhound Legally we are not allowed to talk about it, based on our lawyers advice.

Tampere Vibes

4y↑2

X3000 would be too small to save from attack :(

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Gary Farrell

I like to carry a micro fiber cleaning cloth, such as the kind to wipe down a washed car. This is primarily for use when it rains or snows, to clean and dry both camera and lens. Any thoughts regarding the abrasiveness of such a cloth on lens glass?

Jim aka Woodenarrows

4y↑1

An important question Here: How long has ROR had the new formula. How can I to tell if I'm getting the new formula vs the Old formula, especially when shopping online? Also, I've said this before. Chris and Jordan make a great team. Keep up the small bits of humor in your videos...

Neil Robinson

4y↑1

Every lens I get now, I fit a cheap UV filter. Maybe I lose a bit of sharpness but I also lose a whole lot of worry and I can always briefly remove it for those once in a lifetime sunsets

quakerwildcat

I cannot click LIKE on this video enough. Great content.
I'm curious about your take on blowers: the value of filtered blowers like the Giottos Rocket vs the regular blowers than cost 70% less.

Mr. A

lol, loved the bit with Jordan coming after you. For future videos, I'd love to see you explore sensor cleaning. I've been out on the road multiple times and gotten gunk on my sensor and resorted to using an average lenspen to clean the sensor without any damage. I am careful, but I'm wondering how resilient the glass layers over the sensors are and what kind of cleaning solutions work for those.

DPReview TV

Sensor cleaning video coming out tomorrow!

marty sender

excellent. me too, had problems, but then went to have some new glasses made, got some eyeglass lens cleaner and discovered it is WAY GREAT for cleaning camera lenses without damaging them. in fact it works great to clean my computer monitor and flat screen tv . removes grit and grime, no streaking, evaporates quick. any eyeglass store should have some.

Sunrazor

4y↑1

Dunno why some photographers are so negative towards UV or clear filters. It's great! Easier to clean, easy to replace, makes a flat surface and protects from dust and somewhat moisture. And they are cheap in good quality. And no, there is no sharpness difference if you choose a high quality one. Flares, sure sometimes. But sharpness, no.

Moshe ben Asher

4y↑6

Have used most of the suggested methods successfully, but more than a dozen years ago I came across the idea of using Scotch tape to remove fingerprints, etc. from lenses. When I asked about it online from other photographers, virtually everyone said it was a bad idea, that it would damage the lens coating. So I sent an inquiry to a major lens manufacturer. They responded by saying that they recommended the use of the tape. Since then I have occasionally used the tape on my lenses and filters, none of which have suffered any loss of coating.

karthi mohan

There is no technical bad effect a tape would cause. Which makes it actually perfect for the task.
But the reason why it may not be ideal is, you could contaminate the glue side of tape by dirt/dust in your finger or it could attract and cause a sandpaper like effect. Or maybe use of an stronger or lesser quality gule of the tape might leave residue on the lens which in turn might attract dirt and cause harm.
The best in field quick fix would be to use a microfiber cloth(works the best) along with Medical Wet wipes.

Mike Litoris

What i've seen on other channels:
LENSES ARE FRAGILE, USE PROPER CHEMICALS AND TOOLS
What i've seen here:
Actually a nail does minor damage while file has to pressed hard against glass.
Many thanks!

Personally i find more value in one's demonstration on how to DESTROY something, this gives me near palpable sense of given thing.
Like my first day as an internet service provider was try to actually break fiber glass in order to understand how much it can withstand before failing.

Benham Brewing

46w

Watching this made me so uncomfortable... so much great information... and I know that all the lenses were bad prior to the abuse... but still hard to watch. Great entertaining video!

Stanley Morinaka

Even for a joke, it is hard to watch Chris destroying the surfaces of those lenses! I use a UV filter.

Miroslav Kocúr

4y↑3

There has been a lot of stupid videos about UV filters how useless they are. Well... it might not been UV filter, but there are available protective filters with coating. The reason to use them is not to protect the lens from some mechanical damage, but from dust and water droplets. Then you will not need to clean the front lens, but a filter instead.

All Things Film

Great video. Thanks to you, I've gone ahead and ordered "R.O.R." for my lenses. I've always wanted to have a reliable lens cleaner around. Now, thanks to DPReview, I will have it soon.

Jay Lee Photography

This may be the ideal: use uv filter outside only when it's windy and rainy, don't use it when youre just in a studio shooting

Torben Lysholm

I use sterile or demineralised water and cotton(!) buds. Works extremely well. Also when you think it won't. Fingerprints? Gone! Not as easy, and especially not on the go, so I do carry wipes and a microfiber cloth for use in a pinch. BUT some wipes have some anti fogging agent as well as known allergens in them, and it's a big no thanks to that, so make sure you get ones without any of that crap in them. And remember that they dry out pretty fast, and then they're just as bad as any other dry paper for your lens elements, so always open a new one instead of reusing the one from two minutes ago. The sterile/demineralised water and cotton buds is my favourite method though, even if it takes longer to do. Circular motions both on and off.

Alex McDougall Wildlife Photography.

Great video guys. It was both educational and entertaining. Thanks

simplysrsh

Disclaimer: No lenses were harmed while making this video 😅

Jacob Rutowski

Fun video!
Maybe some testing of common weather sealed lenses/bodies and how to care for gear in various extreme weather conditions? like fuji xt1/2/3/4 + a WR lens or canon + L glass in snow or rain, heat and cold, that kind of thing.

Unversed [XI's old channel]

Can we get one for sensors too? Or is it always more worth it to have it done at a store because of the high risk?

JonatasAdoM

I tend to trust stuff that can touch you in a place where the skin was removed.

tissues are not abrasive to glass at all, unless it has sand in it or something. It simply isn't as hard as glass.

It can however strip any coat on the glass (ironically we would coat such strong material with products that need far more care than glass itself).

David M

Doesn’t isopropyl have too high of an alcohol concentration that it can remove the coating layer? Also what about lens pens? They’re usually made with charcoal powder and I wonder if that’s safe?

Bramy Biantoro

4y↑339

Me: 2020 has been the worst

2020: Hold this video’s intro

TheBoxingZombie7

3y↑1

suuurreee maan...

Lin Eric

4y↑14

I know it was a broken lens, but every time I saw a lens dropped my heart still skip a beat

Simon Pratley

I know they are old broken lenses, but some of these experiments, like the steel file.... made me feel sick!! Great video!

Daniel_Jones

So helpful! I was glad to avoid some mistakes. Thank you.

Alan Tutt Photography

What, no LensPen to compare? I've used these for years, but always wondered if there might be a better option. This episode could have been called "How to give your modern lens a vintage look." Imagine the artistic possibilities!

Jason Morris

4y↑687

the sand paper hurt my soul watching it haha

Han Tun Lin

4y↑13

I even shouted 😂😂😂

Zryan Bautista

3y↑3

Same

Norberto Witt

3y↑5

I almost died

Pope Francis

3y↑2

He started the video in full savage mode. My heart was racing

Cory Rabbit

3y↑2

It sent shivers down my spine. Lmao

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Redwood Studios

What do you do if you accidentally spray the lens with a cleaner? Is there a way to save the lens?

Old Creepy House Explorers

I order a B+W Clear filter with every new lens. I put it on the lens when it comes out the box. I trade it out with other filters but the lens glass stays covered 99.99%

shng sam

suggestion: perhaps can experiment on those 'lens pen' thing.. put them on your dremel and see did they do any damage in long run?
i kinda skeptical because its like rubbing abrasive material on your lens , but i see many people using it

Rick Nicholson

I was hoping you would mention the lens pen, whether loving or hating it. I do use them, one for each bag.

Todd Williams

ABSOLUTELY entertaining! And this subject, tho I never googled it, is one that has been sorely ignored to this depth. Thanks so much for this one. By the way you two guys have ABSOLUTELY adorable kids, I mean ABSOLUTELY (I love that word, ABSOLUTELY love that word). Yes, the kids - BEAUTIFUL. Takes a lot of guts to show them, but they are such good sports and very charismatic - ABSOLUTELY!!

David Reynolds

I use my breath and a micro fibre cloth. If that doesn’t work, I use a lens pen. If that doesn’t work, I use a moist lens cleaner. I bought a box of Zeiss ones years ago and have only used a couple.
Basically, use a lens hood always, don’t let crap build up on it and if you’re at the beach on a windy day, maybe use a uv filter (yuk).

UncompressedWAVmusic

Loved the "It'll buff out", then I like the 3 steps, blower dust off, brush dust off, lens cleaner liquid only onto clean microfiber then wipe.

Cloudi Vaporz

Maybe a mention about using premoistened wipes on the rear element when there is flocking. "Hey Look! My black flocking is now peppered with white fibers." Good video but hard to watch the damage being inflicted. Not as bad as the early Kai Wong videos showing how durable camera bodies really are. Remember him walking on two Rebels? Insane!

Liz Skinner

Wouldn't the prepackaged lens towelettes be bad because they are a paper made towelette instead of a microfiber towel?

Stupid Raisins

Great point at 3:43! I never thought of the liquid getting into the lens.

108U

4y↑7

Hey Chris and Jordan, would like to see if repeated contraction and expansion affects lens performance and longevity! 🧐

Ildskalli

Up you go!

Marieke

Ohh, very interesting!

ThisNThat

I found this both educational and entertaining

Rajib, the Villain

4y↑1

It's good to see you, dude. The way you present the content is really great. stay safe

Rodney Knight

Great video! And very informative. Thank you.

WaschyNumber1

Best cleaning if it's not extremely dirty is to use a lenspen, I use them also on smartphone cameras and displays.

Jason Tan

You forgot to state the 4th thing: How come your hair looks so good during lockdown???

Btw, I have a 1990s Tamron 28-200mm which can be used for demo too. Good for dropping, buffing, and grinding.

I call your product "The Permanant Artistic Filter Creator."

YJ Yip

4y↑146

The front element of my soul has been irreparably scratched watching this

Lazhward

Actually professional art conservators use saliva as a cleaning agent because it's a very mild solvent, it supposedly does a better job at removing dirt than plain water but it's much less aggressive than other synthetic/industrial solvents (such as alcohol). They literally use suckled q-tips to clean thousands of years old artifacts worth millions of dollars, just to drive it home.

So we should obviously spit on our lenses instead.

(Jk, but breathing on them is pretty unlikely to do any harm. And possibly the best cleaning method is to suck a q-tip and rub it all over your glass.)

Paul Nordin

Ah, the dis on the old ways..lens tissue. 45 years ago, I learned the "proper" way to clean a lens from my dad, who learned it directly from Ansel Adams at a workshop at the Tetons in WY. 1) brush off any visible dust/debris. 2) blow off the lens with a cleaning bulb. 3) Take a piece of lens tissue, put your pinkie finger into the middle and pull the rest of the tissue around the finger. Remove your pinkie and you have a tube of tissue. Tear off the loose end so its even thus making an exposed end of clean soft fibers. Put a drop of fluid on the end, and gently wipe in a circle from the center to the outside edges of the lens. I've used this technique on lenses I've owned for 35 years, and a set of old Nikkors my Dad left to me that are at least 55years old, and the front coating still shows no signs of wear. When you use a microfiber, you are reusing a cloth that already has micro particles of dust and dirt embedded in it from previous cleanings...not good. I get that its more convenient to use microfiber, and is in keeping with today's culture of "everything is disposable". But if you clean your lenses as I've proscribed you can hand your set of valuable Leica vintage lenses to your son/daughter, and they can do the same. Somethings are worth taking care of and only build in value.

Jim

I take photos with vintage lenses with terrible scratches, haze, fungus, separation, you name it, and I only notice a loss of contrast which can be fixed in lightroom.

Try M

4y↑1

I've been thinking of using rodico putty that watch enthusiasts uses. They clean everything with it, even the front crystal.

Dominick

please do a condensation test. Like when you have your air conditioned lenses and go outdoors when it's humid. Explaining dew point

Jeff Alvares

Entertaining and informative. Thanks!

T C Lim

Hey Chris just try putting weathersealed lenses in the dishwasher for cleaning. :)

JOE PRETE

@DPReview ...Protect your eyes, while doing any of these experiments. You don't want Glass Granules on your most important lenses!

snapshot 8d

What about the opposite side of the lens - the mount side? Do you clean in a similar fashion?

27th music

Just ordered some Zeiss wipes as I may have just been using my breath for the last 6yrs of my carrier 😳

Another interesting test would be to scratch the front element and see if it actually effects image quality!

Gordon Johnston

CAN YOU USE THE LENS CLEANING SPRAY TO CLEAN THE TOUCH SCREEN AT THE BACK OF YOUR CAMERA AS WELL AS YOUR SMARTPHONE SCREEN????

uniktbrukernavn

I just fog up the lens and wipe it with some kitchen paper. That's after 30 mins using lens paper, q-tips, special lens alcohol and fairy dust.

I've been conditioned into thinking breathing on the lens is super bad but still end up doing just that because at some point I gotta get on with my life.

Impostertot

Thanks guys both educational and fun. The new tool should be the Wooden Nichols Buffer!

leoraúl

No one ever talk about cleaning the other side of the lens, the one that goes attached to the camera body. But my guess is that you clean it the same way.

Your Story Studios

4y↑89

Oh goodness, that opening sequence was painful! But entertaining.

liaminwales

4y↑2

i was amazed how little damage was done till the end

Ari Laine

It felt like being under dentists drill....

TheGalacticWest

This was super informative. Thanks for visceral scares.

FurryBalls InMyPants

use a good lens protector and never worry about cleaning or lens caps. If you find a decrease in image quality you are wrong.

Joshua Jones

4y↑2

Hey I was actually in the market for a lens wipe and cleaner just this morning and this video just released. It’s like y’all read my mind. Definitely leaving a like

Omar

Something tells me that's not the only time Jordan attacked Chris with a screwdriver lol

James Palermo

People underestimate how hard glass is. Its why windshield polish has to be quite stout.

Ted Regas

i found out from my father that alcohol is a very bad choice for cleaning old lenses. On older, think original Contax or Canon rf lens with single coating, the coating could disappear with a single swipe of of an alcohol moistened lens tissue.

Star Pillars

That intro was soul crushing, makes me feel better that it was a broken or useless lens so it’s fine :’£

Iglo

If you ever worked or visit optical component factory you might notice that non of the advertise crap can be find over there.The worst thing for coating is micro fiber cloth. If you care about your lenses get 100% cotton swabs and bottle of Ultra pure IPA or Methanol which should be mixed with demi water.