With Faith Or Flames formed in December 2004, released their debut full-length (engineered by Jamie King: BTBAM, Glass Casket, TTIOTD) in December 2005 and began touring nationally in January 2006. Mike Milliken (guitar) was added to the equation in August of 2006 after the departure of Dustin Lane. Mike quit in April 2007 and Trevor DeGaine joined shortly thereafter. With Faith Or Flames released another full length, A Conquest Triumphant, on Stand and Deliver Records in early 2008.
After touring the summer with Carnifex and Killwhitneydead, bassist Eric Collins and guitarist Trevor DeGaine left the band. The current members of the band are Ian Sharp on vocals, Eric Weatherford on guitar, and Andrew Core on drums. While searching for new members, Andrew and Ian became involved with Destroy Destroy Destroy, with Eric contributing to their new album and Ian performing vocals with them on tour. They still plan to continue With Faith or Flames, however.
In The Beginning
With Faith Or Flames Lyrics
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now rests within the realm of reason
no longer confident
that legends speak in fragmented lore
The lyrics of With Faith Or Flames's song In The Beginning are rich in metaphor and symbolism, and can be interpreted in different ways. However, one possible interpretation is that the "beast considered slain" refers to a formidable challenge, obstacle, or fear that the singer has faced and conquered. This challenge used to be perceived as insurmountable or mythical ("legends speak in fragmented lore"), but now it is within the realm of reason and manageable. The singer used to be confident in their ability to face and overcome this challenge, but they are now hesitant or uncertain ("no longer confident"). This could suggest that they have realized that the challenge was not as imposing as initially thought, or that they have lost some of their bravado in the face of other challenges.
The lyrics suggest that the singer's perspective has shifted, perhaps due to personal growth, experience, or reflection. They no longer see the world in terms of black and white, or in terms of mythical creatures and heroic battles. Instead, they see the shades of gray and nuances that make up reality. This could be seen as a positive development, as it allows them to navigate life more skillfully, but it could also be seen as a loss of innocence or idealism.
Overall, the lyrics of In The Beginning are evocative and thought-provoking, inviting the listener to reflect on their own challenges and perspectives.
Line by Line Meaning
a beast considered slain
A fierce creature that was believed to be defeated and killed
now rests within the realm of reason
It is now recognized and accepted that the creature was not actually killed, but instead exists and can be explained through rational thought
no longer confident
The previously held belief in the creature's defeat and demise is now shaken and uncertain
that legends speak in fragmented lore
The idea that folklore and mythical stories are incomplete and lacking in factual information
Contributed by Hudson C. Suggest a correction in the comments below.
Matthew Taylor
Underrated gem, back when times were simpler
THUMPER 450
Such a great album!! one of the hidden gems imo
Fruitini Strawberry
Setting the stage
Just starting to get into this stuff, friends all go to shows and I wanted to. Fast forward have seen death before dishonor, first blood, as blood runs black FUCKING SICK. These guys play at a small chuch with one of my friends bands, dude says "Raise your goblets high" everyone does it Vocalist proceeds to pull out a fucking claymore badass show still remember it TO THIS DAY
Mike Milly
What town, bro? We toured with As blood runs black In probably 07 . Was it that tour or another one?
Dark Ally Recordings
My band played with these guys when they were Man vs Tree. Awesome times!
Callie
Omg I remember seeing them live when they were Man vs. Tree. I think it was at Club Fathom in Chattanooga??
Dark Ally Recordings
@Callie Yeah I think that is where we played with them. I was in Pride Before A Fall. God that was so long ago. I feel old. Lol.
MikeySaysGo
@Callie I used to go to Fathom like every weekend. Within, Across Five Aprils and With Faith or Flames was my life. haha
Callie
@Dark Ally Recordings omg I think I remember yall too wowwww
Callie
@MikeySaysGo omfg across five aprils