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Jacob

Engineer here who did years of preceramic polymer research, with compounds similar to those used to manufacture ceramic coatings. Currently working with a company that's main product line is Teflon based. Suffice to say, I feel I have some confidence and could help with the understanding of this. So, Teflon coatings obviously are sub optimal. They do perform well is the short term, but the tendency of Teflon to breakdown as it wears is a deal breaker. Okay, so turn how about engineered ceramics? A properly pyrolyzed engineered ceramic should be almost pure silica carbide or silica oxycarbide. Both of these compounds are almost completely stable and inert. If your cookware has a properly ppyrolyzed coating it should be safe even as it gets scratched or otherwise damaged. But, in our testing, for our specific compounds, we saw loss of organic completely compounds for up to 12 hours in the oven. In the formulation these organic compounds are what are potentially hazardous. I do not know what exact formulation each company uses, but it looks to be a PDMS which is different from the silanes I specialized in, but hopefully my experience can be helpful.

There are 3 potential hazards to ceramic non stick ware.
1) These are not pure SiC or SiOC, and the filler materials used can potentially be hazardous, and break down at lower temperatures
2) If the pan is not properly cured they may still contain carbon compounds, and these can be very nasty.
3) if the pan materials are not food safe. This was mentioned is the video.

So, what to do you do if you want ceramic cookware? My #1 advice would be to be willing to spend more. The biggest hazards come from not properly cured ceramic and hazardous base metals, both of which could often be used as a source of savings/QC issues. For the concern about material fillers, find something that you can confirm if ptfe and pfoa free.

Hope this helps. Fwiw I cook mostly on cast iron since I like the even heat, with stainless everything else.



Maxim P

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It's for cast iron cookware, basically it's creating a (hard) layer of oil so that the cookware (pan, etc) will become non-stick and helps prevent the cookware from rusting.

I think Nate Petroski (on TikTok) uses the best/most correct method I personally know about so far. Not that he's special, I'm just mean that I happened to watch his videos and I learned something new from his cast iron seasoning videos.

Basically he says that many times people don't go high enough with the temperature during seasoning, and the oil doesn't really polymerize (becomes hard). And he says that's also the reason why people are afraid of using soap to wash their cast iron cookware, because their seasoning was not done optimally and the seasoning will wash away if soap is used. But if seasoned properly apparently using soap is not an issue.

Seasoning is basically cleaning well the cast iron cookware, applying a thin layer of oil, and put it in the oven (in his case I believe he does 450 for 30 minutes). I don't remember actually if application of oil and subsequent putting it into the oven is done just once or if a few times (possibly a few).

And basically that way one can have non-stick like Teflon pan, skillet, etc, without having to have harmful toxic Teflon (or any other toxic non-stick materials) cookware.



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Patris

I've recently moved to stainless steel pans. Was getting tired of "temporary" pans, and didn't want to bother with seasoning. Yes, you do need to scrub a bit more, but if you manage your temperature while cooking and soak the pan in water before cleaning, it's not a big deal at all.

kad vidim

Also carbon steel

AltruisticWarrior

​@KellySibson nah. I got a perfect non stick cast iron just after 3 treatments back to back. Use lard, bacon fat or a higher smoke point oil like avocado or grapeseed. Preheat the oven to 500 degrees. Heat the pan on the stove top on high for 10 min. Spread the finest layer of oil or fat over it using a paper towel. Put in the oven upside down on the rack for at least an hour. Keep checking periodically after an hour until the pan oil doesn't tack to the pot holder(not sticky). Cool the pan down overnight or at least a few hours and repeat another two times. Even a good 2 hours is fine in the oven. I used avocado oil first then a layer of lard then bacon fat... nearly perfect non stick surface after just that.

Bella Kim

​@Serv Nava I've read from the makers of Made In cookware that the oxidation can be simply removed with vinegar and water.

D. Leighann Batemon

I was one of nine kids. My parents had stainless steel. When I went to college, I fell in love with my roommates Teflon pans, but when a roommate used a fork on it, the roommate who owned the pan lost her mind over it. Wish I had learned when buying my own set! I should've stuck with stainless steel and then after 12 years of marriage I'd still be using the same pots and pans.

Mk Mason

I use Bon Ami to wash my pans because I am always alllll out of elbow grease. I love it, works great.

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Julia Kwiatkowski

I work at a kitchen store and thanks for this. A lot of people don't really get that "ceramic pans" and a lot of nonstick pans have a certain lifespan. If you want something that will last forever, cast iron, enameled cast iron, stainless steel... all good options.

Isaac Barnett

Don’t forget Carbon Steel pans… they are the bees knees too.

Julia Kwiatkowski

@D. Leighann Batemon Yes you should be able to use your scrubber on carbon steel as well. :)

D. Leighann Batemon

Thank you for starting this thread of conversation. I'm looking into buying some new pots and pans as we really need them. Thinking I'll go carbon steel as the only thing I don't love about my grandmother's cast iron we love to use is how dang heavy it is! The seasoning on it is beautiful and we rarely have anything stick. We use a chain mail scrubber thing to clean it; could I use that scrubber on carbon steel? I had been leaning towards aluminum, but sounds like carbon steel is just lighter cast iron?

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