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Juan Pablo Aranovich

My notes:
Qualities that humans desire:
Long term:
- Is rare in the mammalian world.
- Universal preferences. Everyone wants:
○ Kindness
○ Intelligence
○ Love
○ Good health
○ Dependability
○ Emotional stability
- Sex differences:
○ Women prefer good earning capacity, slight older age, and qualities associated with resource acquisition (ambitious, trajectory, social status). Mate choice copying: if a guy passes the filter of another women, he is more likely to be approved by for women.
○ Women have more olfatory and auditory capabilities.
○ The costs of choosing badly are much heavier for women.
○ Men prefer
§ phyisical atractiveness, cues that men look are not arbirtrary: clear skin, clear eyes, symetrical features, low waist hip ratio, lips, hair. Men look for someone to procreate and thereby the age gap
§ Virginity was the most desire quality across cultures.

Deception: men exagerate feelings for a woman and their coincidence of values.

Emotional stability: how does partner respond to stress? How do they react on a different and new environment? This is a key thing for healthy long term relationships.

Short term:
- Physical appearence is more important in short term. Especially for women. Men are willing to drop their standars in short term.
- Women want bad boy qualities, very self confident, arrogant, risk taking. (for long term they look "good dad" qualities"). Womens attraction to men is more context specific.

Sexual Infidelity:
Sexes differ in the reasons:
- For men its a matter of sexual variety. Low risk, low cost for sexual variety. 70% of men cheat because of this. Men who are happily married and unhappiliy married cheat at the same rate.
- For women, emotionally and sexually unhappy with the relationship. 70% of women who cheat say that they fell in love with their cheating partner, and that they are emotionally involved.
○ Why women cheat?
§ Dual mating strategy hypothesis: women look for resources from one guy and genes from other guy.
§ Mate switching hypothesis: mate insurance.

When women are ovulating they shift preferences are very weak or non-existent.

Emotional infideltity: becoming emotionally involved with other person
Financial infidelity: keeping secret bank accounts, secret credit cards, etc…

Jealousy: is an evolved emotion that serves adaptive funtions.
- Its a defense to your long-term investment in the relationship. Its a mate retention function.
- Its active when there are threats to the relationship. And it can activate when there are mate value discrepancies (one suddenly is more succesful, suddenly emotionally unstable, more fat, etc).

Dark triad: three personality characteristics
1. Narcisicism: excess of self-percieved value
2. Machaivelism: view people as pawns to pursue a strategy.
3. Psychopathy: lack of empathy.



YouTube Drifter

@LeAnn Howard Ahhh you just answered your own statement.

Ego. A female ego is a very terrible thing. Especially when they are younger. This is why you felt slighted. Women do not like the truth if it does not suit their Outlook. This is an existential threat. Women seek status subconsciously and as they get older consciously.

Just as a male can't help being attracted to a woman's beauty. It's not up to me. It doesn't offend me or make me feel slighted because I'm not letting my emotions over rule my logic on the matter.

This is the problem with modern science and society as a whole. These studies have been replicated over and over as was stated. You can look them up yourself. Of course there will always be outliers. But the fact is these things do not change.

I'm a 37 year old man. I've always been self confident. Yet I've gone through periods of my life doing different things. Where women wouldn't even look at me. Had nothing to do with confidence. I was in shape financially well off but I was virtually invisible as the work I was doing was low status. I'll give you another example. I used to drive a 2007 Saturn Vue. Great car! I got it for 4500 in 2012. I had it for a couple years then I sold it. When I upgraded I bought a Mercedes grey with black wheels not even an overtly expensive Mercedes. A very sexy car. Literally weeks after driving it I started getting way more attention from females. It was an indicator that I was doing well in life.
One more example. The jobs I worked where I got the most female attention was bartending and when I I was a GM of a nice restaurant. Neither one of these jobs is ultra high status globally. However they were very high status locally. Why? Because I was the center of an attention structure. Relatively speaking in the moment to moment goings of that attention structure. Something I learned after the fact. Actually when I was going through a dry spell I actually started bartending again part time and it cleared up no more than a few weeks later.

My personal experience is women are 100% attracted to status! And there is nothing wrong with that! In my mid twenties it pissed me off because I lost a few women to higher status males that were closer to my age now. But it motivated me to do more and be better.

It's ok. It's how our brains work. If you're younger you're not even aware you're doing it. The whole I'm not like the other girls thing is played out. You're not special, I'm not special it's just nature. So you can be bitter about it or you can adapt! Also keep in mind like I said the older you get what you're attracted to changes because you become more self aware. Just don't try to fight it too hard or you will be miserable.

Guys if you're having trouble with women... Exercise take care of yourself physically and mentally. Then focus on raising your status. Try making friends with women without trying to fuck them. That social proof attracts more women. Plus you gain some cool new friends with awesome insights on female Phycology.



Mushtaq Bhat

Win Win for both? Yes used to be my wish too.

However the hypothesis here makes it somehow mandatory to have at most a difference of 2 points on the postulated mate value scale, otherwise it is no Win-Win; which I think applies in most cases but not for the blessed ones, often neglected in history and media, since they do not make news but that I have myself witnessed more than once.

Animalistic urges?

That may depend on your age and the time you live in.
Currently we live in a dopamine saturated times, where it may appear to be a loss even for the elderly.

I think there is an overemphasis on biology and psychology, which no doubt reveal some important aspects of the phenomenon.

However something equally important tends to be overlooked.
Sociology and the stage of social evolution of our species. Especially sociology of the times, which would include culture, social structure and organization, means of production and the ecology.

Add to that social norms, technologies like contraceptives, washing machines, economic freedom of females, the increasing intervention of state in custody or financial support of children with one parent and a lot more.

Even in an industrialized western society you may notice the difference in the ethos of relationships in a relatively short period, as expressed in following two pop songs.

A generation ago, the Beatles: “Will you still love/need me, when I am 64?”

And a decade later, the songs of certain women, like “I am a bitch” or something similar from some one I have forgotten the name of.



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This would be far more accurate if he were discussing the nature of people with Characterological Disorders (aka Character disorders) or as abnormal psychology calls them, personality disorders, and most especially Cluster B personality disorders.

Narcissists consider "variety" the spice of life and sex and porn addicts are almost always narcissists (as well as alcoholics and drug addicts)
Borderlines are often serial cheaters, as well, and they're typically found in "love" addiction groups.

Histrionics was to be the center of attention, so they NEED near constant attention, and to be "the center of attention" wherever they are (and that could be bad attention like a reality TV show-type of person or an internet troll.

Antisocial individuals believe the rules and laws of society apply to everyone else BUT them, so they tend to be serial philanders (like many narcissists) just because it is socially unacceptable.

Then you have people who fit a lot of the criteria for these characterological disorders but are never diagnosed, and that is the VAST majority of them because outside of those with BPD, the rest almost never seek out therapy unless court ordered.

...but he did cover the most "extreme" and dangerous personality triad, the dark triad. God help you if you ever get involved with one of these individuals. They embody human evil.

Polyamory is, more often, the playground of those with attachment disorders aka personality disorders i.e. narcissists who want variety, borderlines who have abandonment/engulfment fears, histrionics who have a near-constant need for attention, and the antisocial who like to go against any societal norms, and have little/no attachment to others.

The above people can, and often will, RUIN your life. That's not my subjective opinion, either, and these types of people populate MANY different types of dating apps and websites.



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Peter O'Connor

Sure, if you think the human being is only an animal.

Jamey Williams

@Peter O'Connor I love evolutionary biology but I think there is a spiritual component as well.

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Ambience Assistant

Ok the discussion of intimate violence as a way to reduce a woman’s perceived value was legitimately life changing for me. It happened to me and I never had a means to understand or express it. Thank you so much.

How to Sober

Make no mistake, however, NOTHING excuses violence.

sk

Voila ! The cat is out of the bag
Although it's always been an open secret. Power Struggle.

Juan Pablo Aranovich

My notes:
Qualities that humans desire:
Long term:
- Is rare in the mammalian world.
- Universal preferences. Everyone wants:
○ Kindness
○ Intelligence
○ Love
○ Good health
○ Dependability
○ Emotional stability
- Sex differences:
○ Women prefer good earning capacity, slight older age, and qualities associated with resource acquisition (ambitious, trajectory, social status). Mate choice copying: if a guy passes the filter of another women, he is more likely to be approved by for women.
○ Women have more olfatory and auditory capabilities.
○ The costs of choosing badly are much heavier for women.
○ Men prefer
§ phyisical atractiveness, cues that men look are not arbirtrary: clear skin, clear eyes, symetrical features, low waist hip ratio, lips, hair. Men look for someone to procreate and thereby the age gap
§ Virginity was the most desire quality across cultures.

Deception: men exagerate feelings for a woman and their coincidence of values.

Emotional stability: how does partner respond to stress? How do they react on a different and new environment? This is a key thing for healthy long term relationships.

Short term:
- Physical appearence is more important in short term. Especially for women. Men are willing to drop their standars in short term.
- Women want bad boy qualities, very self confident, arrogant, risk taking. (for long term they look "good dad" qualities"). Womens attraction to men is more context specific.

Sexual Infidelity:
Sexes differ in the reasons:
- For men its a matter of sexual variety. Low risk, low cost for sexual variety. 70% of men cheat because of this. Men who are happily married and unhappiliy married cheat at the same rate.
- For women, emotionally and sexually unhappy with the relationship. 70% of women who cheat say that they fell in love with their cheating partner, and that they are emotionally involved.
○ Why women cheat?
§ Dual mating strategy hypothesis: women look for resources from one guy and genes from other guy.
§ Mate switching hypothesis: mate insurance.

When women are ovulating they shift preferences are very weak or non-existent.

Emotional infideltity: becoming emotionally involved with other person
Financial infidelity: keeping secret bank accounts, secret credit cards, etc…

Jealousy: is an evolved emotion that serves adaptive funtions.
- Its a defense to your long-term investment in the relationship. Its a mate retention function.
- Its active when there are threats to the relationship. And it can activate when there are mate value discrepancies (one suddenly is more succesful, suddenly emotionally unstable, more fat, etc).

Dark triad: three personality characteristics
1. Narcisicism: excess of self-percieved value
2. Machaivelism: view people as pawns to pursue a strategy.
3. Psychopathy: lack of empathy.

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