"I dropped out of high school due to family issues," he says. "I had to grow up real fast and do the man thing, but I started doin' the street thing."
Nonetheless, Mess's rap reputation grew, and in 1997 he hooked up with San Quinn to record Explosive Mode (Presidential, 1998), which has sold more than 50,000 copies. "There was a lot of hype around the hood about how he was better than me or I was better than him," Mess says. "We decided to come together, and we made a classic."
"At that time, I was really on the street, living outta cars, doing real bad things," he recalls. "So Quinn and his mom took me in."
Despite his success when few in the Bay were moving many units, Mess was unable to leave the dope game, partly due to his own addiction.
"I inherited a cocaine habit," the rapper says. "I been clean for a while, but I had a really bad habit. All I can say is 'Say no to drugs.’” Though he won't go into details, Mess confirms his triple life as rapper, dealer, and user came to a head one night at an out-of-state show in 2001, when he was forced to jump out a fourth-floor window. "I broke both of my legs, crushed my left foot, lost a lot of blood," Mess says. "I was in a wheelchair for six months. The doctors said I'd never walk again."
"It gave me a whole new respect for handicapped people. I was doing shows in my wheelchair, and I rocked the whole crowd. It was a hell of a feeling that they still accepted me," he says. "That gave me the strength to get up and walk. I learned how to walk all over again, by myself, in four months. After that I decided it was time to go somewhere else with my life."
As if to atone for time lost, Messy Marv has since pursued his talent with a vengeance, recording a slew of projects for his own label, Scalen LLC, and labels such as Frisco Street Show, which released a reunion with Quinn, Explosive Mode 2: "Back in Business" (2006), and just dropped Explosive Mode 3 with Husalah and Jacka. In 2004, Mess inked a distribution deal for Scalen through Universal/Fontana, helping him move more than 20,000 copies each of Disobayish (2004) and Bandannas, Tattoos and Tongue Rings (2005). While he spent much of 2005 in county jail on a weapons violation, he still managed to score one of the big radio hits of the hyphy movement, "Get on My Hype," produced by Droop-E. Most recently, he's been on MTV and other airwaves with the E-A-Ski- and CMT-produced "So Hood," from The Infrastructure (SMC), his album with Hunters Point rapper Guce, released under the name Bullys Wit Fullys. A self-conscious bid to end hood rivalry between the ’Moe and HP, the Infrastructure project shows Mess's awareness of the power of his position as a role model even as he continues to spit with the most defiant swagger of any rapper in the Bay.
While Mess admits he has major deals on the table and plans to release the first of a two-volume opus titled What You Know about Me? in December, he also intends to retire thereafter in a nonbinding Jay-Z sort of way in order to concentrate on the younger acts on his label. This intention seems characteristic of the true spirit of the Fillmore as well as an acknowledgment that despite his youth, Messy Marv has already written a chapter in the district's history. (Garrett Caples)
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Phd's
Messy Marv Lyrics
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Niggas be havin' them PHD's, playa hatin' degrees. In the Motown we call it pimpin' hoggin' and doggin' understand me? Yeah, HK and the Mess nigga in this bitch for the 9-6, and uh, we gonna lay shit down for you playa haters.
Verse 1 (Messy Marv):
Niggas get laced in chalk for talkin' shit, and get ooowee knots on the forehead for savin' a bitch. I nibble on lobsters, sit with mobsters at Crustacean's. I'm tryna get rich, shake a bitch mayne and go places. Messy Miznarv, young as fuck in the gizname. Game way tighter than the 350 with headers and cams mayne. And a posi rear, so I could skeet-skirt when I hit 3rd gear, sideways on you paper haters, burnin' more rubber than Goodyear. It ain't no puzzle, from the SFC to the iggity-O. Man it's niggas with PHD's from China to El Segundo. At break a bitch, shake a bitch I had to marinate. I've seen playas of the finest graduate, and walk the stage and get they certified playa diploma. While others flunk for lovin' a bitch and not gettin' over. Instead they wanna playa hate and think it's fine and dandy, but sucka ass nigga is it you or that bitch that's wearin' the panties?
Niggas be havin' them PHD's, sucka university playa hater degrees. I marinated, at break-a-bitch, shake-a-bitch college. And graduated, from break-a-bitch, shake-a-bitch college. Sucka muthafucka explain this to me. Where in the fuck did you niggas get your PHD? P-I-impin', hoggin' and doggin' explains my degree, but you PH-balanced niggas be havin' them PHD's.
Verse 2 (H.K.):
P is for the playas. H is for the haters. D is for the degree that you will get burnt with by H.K. uh, captain save-a, playa hater. Won't you come out and plaaay? Salt shaker, perpetrator, let me introduce you to the H.K. Niggas be hatin' H.K. cuz ya boy be clockin' knots, and start grabbin' glocks, sellin' in front they top notch. But I played hop scotch on that nigga and his ho. And got ghost with the cash and went Federal. Or you didn't know? Yo ho's a 4-11 star. Charging months to the game is H.K. and Messy Marv. Playa hatin' on yo ponta? Choppin' a nigga up over Absolut and vodka? Now you know that shit ain't proper. So it's time to let loose these hollow point tips from this choppa.
Chorus:
Niggas be havin' them PHD's, sucka university playa hater degrees. I marinated, at break-a-bitch, shake-a-bitch college. And graduated, from break-a-bitch, shake-a-bitch college. Sucka muthafucka explain this to me. Where in the fuck did you niggas get your PHD? P-I-impin', hoggin' and doggin' explains my degree, but you PH-balanced niggas be havin' them PHD's.
Verse 3 (Messy Marv & H.K.):
I got ice cream cola, vanilla wafers, and them Glocks 23 for you paper haters. Playa haters, talking that old square shit. Cuz I hate when niggas that floss so hard, can't purchase kicks. PHD havin' niggas all up in my face. Playa hatin' muthafuckas wanna take my place. Niggas know, ho's walkin' around actin' phony. Playa haters be poppin' at the mouth, you know, talkin' up on me. Hater, why you wanna kill me cuz I fucked yo bitch. From the K.O.P. to the P.S.T. that ho was gobblin' dicks. Fully hot, German, a simple Mack 1-0. Gettin' off on yo playa hatin' ass and yo carin' ass ho. So all you haters with the PHD's, beware of the black A.P. From trigga lock, one shot to the top now watch us pop. Brotha Mo, H.K., Grandmasta Felon and the Henna Rock.
Chorus:
Niggas be havin' them PHD's, sucka university playa hater degrees. I marinated, at break-a-bitch, shake-a-bitch college. And graduated, from break-a-bitch, shake-a-bitch college. Sucka muthafucka explain this to me. Where in the fuck did you niggas get your PHD? P-I-impin', hoggin' and doggin' explains my degree, but you PH-balanced niggas be havin' them PHD's
The song "PHD's" by Messy Marv is all about the mindset of those who hate on others who are successful in the pimping game. The acronym PHD, which is typically used to represent the highest academic achievement in education, is flipped here to mean "playa hating degree." The lyrics showcase the fact that there is a certain level of education needed to successfully hustle and pimp women, and those who cannot handle the competition and success of others often resort to hatred and violence. Messy Marv boasts about his own success in the game, as well as the success of others in the industry who have graduated from "break-a-bitch, shake-a-bitch college." The song is a commentary on how many people view pimping as a career and how successful pimps are often demonized by society.
Overall, the lyrics of the song "PHD's" by Messy Marv provide an insight into the world of pimping and the mindset of those who are successful in the industry. While the use of the acronym PHD as a playa hating degree is a clever play on words, the message of the song is serious and highlights the dangers and struggles of the pimping game.
Line by Line Meaning
Niggas be havin' them PHD's, playa hatin' degrees.
There are people who have an advanced education in hating others.
In the Motown we call it pimpin' hoggin' and doggin' understand me?
The art of manipulating and controlling others is referred to as 'pimpin', 'hoggin', and 'doggin' in our community, do you comprehend?
Niggas get laced in chalk for talkin' shit, and get ooowee knots on the forehead for savin' a bitch.
If you talk too much and get on the wrong side of things, you might end up dead, and if you try to save a woman from a situation, you might end up with a bump on your head.
I nibble on lobsters, sit with mobsters at Crustacean's.
I enjoy dining on lobster and enjoy the company of dangerous people at Crustacean's restaurant.
I'm tryna get rich, shake a bitch mayne and go places.
My goal is to become wealthy, use women for my own pleasure, and travel to different locations.
Game way tighter than the 350 with headers and cams mayne.
My pimping skills are much superior to a race car with performance upgrades.
And a posi rear, so I could skeet-skirt when I hit 3rd gear, sideways on you paper haters, burnin' more rubber than Goodyear.
I have a high-performance car with a limited-slip differential, which allows me to drift through turns and leave my detractors behind, causing the tires to burn more rubber than a Goodyear tire factory.
It ain't no puzzle, from the SFC to the iggity-O.
It's not a mystery that there are people with PhDs in hating others everywhere from San Francisco to the Iggity-O (a place whose exact location is unknown).
Man it's niggas with PHD's from China to El Segundo.
There are people with PhDs in hating others from China to El Segundo (a city in California).
At break a bitch, shake a bitch I had to marinate.
I had to think carefully and prepare before I engaged in pimping and manipulating women.
I’ve seen playas of the finest graduate, and walk the stage and get they certified playa diploma.
I have seen people who are very skilled at manipulating others graduate and receive recognition for their talent.
While others flunk for lovin’ a bitch and not gettin’ over.
Some people fail at pimping and manipulating because they fall in love with a woman and can't move on.
Sucka ass nigga is it you or that bitch that's wearin' the panties?
Are you a weak man who is controlled by a woman, or is the woman controlled by you?
Niggas be havin' them PHD's, sucka university playa hater degrees.
There are people who are highly skilled at hating others, who have received a 'playa hater degree' from a 'sucka university'.
P is for the playas. H is for the haters. D is for the degree that you will get burnt with by H.K.
The letters P, H, and D stand for 'playas', 'haters', and the degree that you will earn by crossing H.K. and getting burned.
Salt shaker, perpetrator, let me introduce you to the H.K.
I am going to confront and deal with those who are spreading negativity and causing trouble, let me introduce myself as H.K.
Niggas be hatin' H.K. cuz ya boy be clockin' knots, and start grabbin' glocks, sellin' in front they top notch.
People are hating on H.K. because he is making a lot of money and causing trouble in front of their high-class establishments.
But I played hop scotch on that nigga and his ho. And got ghost with the cash and went Federal.
I outmaneuvered my enemy and his woman, took the money, and disappeared while avoiding law enforcement.
Or you didn't know? Yo ho's a 4-11 star.
Did you not know that the woman you are trying to protect is actually a prostitute, known as a 4-11 star?
Charging months to the game is H.K. and Messy Marv.
H.K. and Messy Marv are able to earn money consistently from their pimping and manipulating activities.
So all you haters with the PHD's, beware of the black A.P.
Anyone who excels at hating others should be cautious of H.K. and Messy Marv, who are referred to as the 'black A.P.'.
From trigga lock, one shot to the top now watch us pop. Brotha Mo, H.K., Grandmasta Felon and the Henna Rock.
We are ready to shoot our guns and rise to the top. Our group consists of Brotha Mo, H.K., Grandmasta Felon, and the Henna Rock.
I got ice cream cola, vanilla wafers, and them Glocks 23 for you paper haters.
I have treats and guns ready for anyone who wants to challenge me and spread negativity.
Playa haters, talking that old square shit. Cuz I hate when niggas that floss so hard, can't purchase kicks.
People who spread negativity often talk about boring stuff. I hate when people act like they are wealthy but can't even afford nice shoes.
PHD havin' niggas all up in my face. Playa hatin' muthafuckas wanna take my place.
People who are skilled at hating others are constantly trying to confront me and take my place through manipulation and coercion.
Hater, why you wanna kill me cuz I fucked yo bitch.
Why are you trying to hurt or kill me just because I slept with your woman?
From the K.O.P. to the P.S.T. that ho was gobblin' dicks. Fully hot, German, a simple Mack 1-0.
The woman in question was servicing men from the K.O.P. (King of Prussia, a town in Pennsylvania) to the P.S.T. (an unknown location), and I have a powerful and fast weapon to protect myself and my interests.
Sucka muthafucka explain this to me. Where in the fuck did you niggas get your PHD?
Can you please explain to me how you became so skilled at hating others?
P-I-impin', hoggin' and doggin' explains my degree, but you PH-balanced niggas be havin' them PHD's.
My degree is in 'pimpin', 'hoggin', and 'doggin', which explains my expertise in manipulating and controlling others, but you people who are obsessed with maintaining a balanced pH level are the ones who truly have PhDs in hating others.
Contributed by Ethan N. Suggest a correction in the comments below.
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