Outgunned
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Banner As strong as any weapon as sharp as any blade A…
Rancid Always outnumbered, never outgunned Roll to Alabama or Flor…
Sick of It All ""Dig in deep here it comes we're in this for…
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OpenMawProductions

5y↑1

@Jamie Olberding

You say that like I don't get that. I do. I'm not against the Klingons firing first, or the Klingons getting the jump on the D and managing to (ultimately) destroy it.

It's the way it was done. It wasn't smartly written. To quote Chuck "SFDebris" Sonnenburg about how this scene goes "The Klingons being painted as dirty, not fighting fair. Fine. But how does the crew of the D respond? With a valiant fight? No. With a buncha bullshit."

I repeat, it would have been far more compelling and made the villain far more threatening if the visor gag actually DISABLED the Enterprise so that it couldn't return fire, and were FORCED to retreat.

Then Data and La Forge work to basically reboot the ship just before the kill shot is delivered and the D can fire all it's weapons again.

Then again i'm asking too much of a movie that is literally using stock footage from the TV show, and reuses the killshot of the BOP from Star Trek VI completely unchanged.

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Megabyte Unleashed

11y↑9

I guess it could be said the first few volleys hit around the main deflector, causing major internal damage to power systems. And the last shot did score a direct hit to the main impulse engine, causing damage to the power grid and triggering the coolant leak. However, my blame lies entirely on Worf. Instead of locking all weapons on and firing, he gives one shot then twidlles his thumbs. Instead of firing a full spread of weapons. Riker be damned, he's a klingon, worf should know better.

Schwatvogel

8y↑27

To all people stating that the D was just destroyed in this film to make way for a bigger, cooler ship for the next: I get it, I understand it, I don't even have a problem with that the D was destroyed in the first place (plus, the Crash-Scene is awesome)

I issue is with the fact that it was a Bird of Prey (and an obsolete one at that) that done her in. If they had just used a different, stronger Ship, no one would even complain.

maniac_javi

@Red Pill Freedom thanks!

Red Pill Freedom

3y↑1

@maniac_javi

The model had to be heavily refurbished so it would still look convincing under the glare of motion picture lighting and the superior picture quality of movie cameras.

Also due to the model's top-heavy design, it was a pain in the ass to operate. Hence why they designed the Enterprise-E to be much sleeker

maniac_javi

3y↑1

Didnt they get rid of the enterprise D because something about it being a pain in the ass to make on movies

Jacob Kirby

5y↑2

Well, I am not trying to start an argument, and if I do, I am simply approaching this a kindred intellect. I'm not saying you are wrong , because, God knows, the Enterprise D deserved to be destroyed by nothing short of a Borg cube, or Romulan warbird, or even a Vor'Cha class battle cruiser. But I would just like to say one thing.

If you notice, the first torpedo launched by the bird of prey hit right above the main deflector dish, one of the most vital components on board a star ship. Is it possible that with that first hit, it crippled them, reducing their attack power, and with the second torpedo hitting right behind it, along the secondary hull, hit another vital system that rendered their phaser power compromised? I'm of the impression that if Riker had given the command, FIRE ALL WEAPONS, that bird of prey would have obliterated in the opening volley. But that is my question. Again, not trying to say anyone is wrong, just asking.

1970sTIGERTIGER

5y↑1

@David Roberts it certainly would!. its just people nitpicking over stupid details i just wish people would just enjoy a movie instead of moaning over flaws if they are so sensitive they should never watch a movie again.

Curien247

5y↑10

One extra scene added could have fixed it if they showed Geordi re-modulating the shields and the Bird-of-Prey adapting to the new frequency thru the bug in his visor

SecurityEscort

3y↑1

well, not if the E-D set the shields to a rotating remodulation. Even if Geordi stared at the display the entire time, which he didn't and wouldn't as Chief Engineer during a battle, no human/Klingon could manually adapt the frequency as quickly as a computer can. They'd need a computer link like the Equinox had in Voyager.

If the first salvo took out the shield generator, then the scene would be fixed.

Frost Lupus

9y↑14

Only reason the Enterprise D was destroyed was because the writers wanted a memorable/climatic fight scene that people would remember for the otherwise mediocre move because they knew the 3 old actor's simplistic fight would be would not make the cut they were looking for.

So they added the destruction of the Enterprise when there was no actual plot reasoning to it.
While, yes, I DO like the Sovereign class better than the Galaxy, the Galaxy should of blasted the dated BOP even with the handicaps...

thewewguy8t88

6y↑2

except for the fact that this fight scene was just awful.

calxist

12y↑1

just the track I was looking for. fantastic OST throughout.

Andrew Lipscomb

7y↑4

Imagine this scene, but with a Defiant class and not a Galaxy class

Will

5y↑1

tHAT WOULD BE LEGIT. or throw some of the Undiscovered Country with the cloaked Bird of Prey firing....

toadofsteel

7y↑19

2:44 this theme was reused in DS9, in The Way of the Warrior

Anansi the Spider

+toadofsteel: You are correct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_-ieSzwOK4

Dan Castro

4y↑2

DS9 got better once Worf joined the show

Full Playthroughs

5y↑4

I can hear Sisko now, "fire on my mark......fire"

ApolloVI

6y↑3

It was also used in The Die is Cast (when the Dominion ambush the Cardassian-Romulan fleet).

thewewguy8t88

6y↑3

plus the interior of the kinglon ship blowing up was used in DS9 and the bird of prey blowing up was taken from the undiscovered country lol.

Daniel Fraser

5y↑1

(*puts star dork hat on*) The way I square this one is that the Enterprise took a direct hit to the nacelle and the primary impulse drive off the bat, I can see that fusing the warp coils and overloading the EPS systems as well as the impulse fusion generators being damaged, hence messing with the power systems and the very delicate warp containment system, which was always a problem because we’ve seen it many times in the show, remember when the Bozeman crashed into the enterprises Nacelle?

Katie Carr

5y↑1

Rest in peace Lursa and B'etor 😔

Andrew Nagel

12y↑2

Reminds my of Star Trek Wrath of Khan. Almost the same, similar to Surprise Attack. Thanks for the video!

Sigma0283

12y↑3

Galaxy Class Starships were known for having problems ejecting the warp core in the event of a core breach and there is also the possibility that the Duras sisters (The Female Klingons in Generations) damaged the ejection hatch during the battle off screen.

TheRPGenius

6y↑2

The scene in which this plays is just another of a litany of reasons why the movies cannot intelligently be considered canon.

OpenMawProductions

10y↑17

People who defend this scene really need to understand something important.

You're basically saying that a lone fighter jet could glass jaw an aircraft carrier. It doesn't happen. The Enterprise D should have immediately unloaded on the BOP and taken it down.

Now, if you want to show the D being compromised, why not have the super genius Soran implant some kind of a virus into Geordi's visor that SHUTS THE MAIN COMPUTER OFF LINE? Geordi's visor has been shown to do things of that sort int he past. So why not go somewhere where it makes sense for the BOP to literally carve of the D without any fighting back?

OpenMawProductions

5y↑1

OpenMawProductions

5y↑1

Oh, how you wound me.

I'm still right. They could have written this scene far better and more intelligently.

Jamie Olberding

6y↑1

Dude the Klingons surprised the Enterprise by firing first!

thewewguy8t88

6y↑1

i agree seriously.

Jacob Kirby

8y↑2

Well I concede that you do have a valid point.

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AlienatingPredation

9y↑4

The Klingons really do need to bring bigger birds into battle--not delicate frigates.

Larry Davison

All the Duras sisters could afford was a second or third hand corvette.

Spock vs Khan

11y↑16

How in the world were they able to return fire--with phasers. That was it!! They never fought back and just took a beating.....horrible battle scene that made no sense.

Sigma0283

4y↑2

What the writers should have done was have the Duras Sisters target Enterprises shield generator (if there was one) first and either disabled it or knocked it out completely, thus dropping the shields to prevent the frequency change, putting Enterprise at a disadvantage and making the situation much more serious. Then hit the targeting sensor to temporarily disable the weapons (to explain why Enterprise fired only one phaser volley), the Duras Sisters fail to notice due to arrogance, pride and lust for revenge. Enterprise regains weapons but only tornadoes. Ionic pulse is initiated and Enterprise destroys bird of prey.

Larry Davison

4y↑1

@thewewguy8t88 And the Enterprise-D was the ship that came up with the technique. Obtaining the command prefix combination would have made more sense.

thewewguy8t88

6y↑5

not to mention its standard prosedure to rotate the shield frequency... even voyager knew to do it

Mateo Oletos

6y↑15

More that "outgunned" it should have been "Rikers great command skills"

Lane Steele

Best action cue of Generations. DENNIS McCARTHY ROCKS

James Jr.

11y↑2

Benjy5997, Considering that that battle lasted about 5 minutes, I'd say that it's impressive that Riker thought of what he did. He had no way of knowing that Geordie was compromised, so even if he had rotated the shields, the klingons could have found the new modulation. Otherwise I'd have to agree with Ryan.

SecurityEscort

but only if they changed the modulation per hand. If they set the shields to a rotating modulation, even the visual link would be useless, since no humanoid can adapt a frequency as fast as a computer can.

Benjy Hamilton

11y↑6

Riker - 'Deanna take the helm, get us out of orbit' *ship turns 180 degree instead of leaving orbit which thereby nullify's its main fire power* Although I agree Riker over thought it. What the heck happened to 'rotate shield modulation' or just. 'Crap! blind Geordie so they cant see'

lostrider99 robledo

7y↑4

I still remember data just before enterprise D crashes ohhh shit!!

Bondek

7y↑1

I saw the film when it came out in March 1995 (as it was in the UK when I finally got to see it). Being about 9 at the time, I stopped my mum on the way out to inform her that was my favourite line in the whole movie.
In spite of the fact I saw my hero Kirk die.

Still a highlight of the film, that line that is.

DrifterRZero

11y↑6

They been hit in the secondary hull before in the TV series, remember TNG ep "Best of Both World" E-D took hit in the secondary hull by a Borg cube (which is known for ass raping ships) Didn't stop the E-D firing all weapons

Ryan Yarbrough

11y↑5

A lot of you people say Riker or Troi helped destroy the Enterprise. The real culprits were the writers who wanted to have the Enterprise E in the next film. Riker and Troi are just characters in a television show.

Will

5y↑1

The Song is Magnificent but come on guys. You could have had the entire remains of the Duras house INSTEAD OF ONE FRIGGING 80 YEAR OLD DEFECTIVE BIRD OF PREY COME ON.

R8erNation636

12y↑5

The way Riker commanded the Enterprise in her final moments is quite shocking. My dead wife could have done a better job! And she's dead!

Jean Cabaille

Kirk have done better in Wrath of Khan with a Enterprise without main ou emergency power to drive the Reliant Off.

Here Riker have the Enterprise with all power even with shields useless (there have just moduling shields frequences like against the Borg), so the Enterprise outgun and can outrun the Old D12 Bird of Prey.

For this battle have a sense, the Enterprise should have fight at lest a Vor'cha or a Negh'Var for have a pyrric win

Eric Storey

5y↑1

Okay, so I just thought of something that I don't think anyone has ever thought about: How would Gene (Roddenberry) feel about the destruction of The Enterprise?

MrTBSC

well a enterprise has been destroyed before ... soooo ....

elfred1980

12y↑3

I wonder how that looked in his report "So while you were gone saving the lives of hundreds of millions of people, we sorta let half the ship blow up and crashed the other"

Benjy Hamilton

11y↑3

Correction. Troi destroyed the Enterprise

insaneapples

12y↑2

@wsad8you I think the hidden point that they failed to really make obvious here was that the overconfidence of Picard led them to fall to a "50 year old klingon bird of prey".. but really it just came off as a weak story with a weak climax and a weak reason to build the Enterprise-E because they felt the D was "not good for movies"

Jon Lyons

11y↑4

No...Riker's command incompetence led to the destruction of the Enterprise D. Instead of saying "Fire all Weapons" he tried to think up some stupid plan involving Plasma Coils.

thewewguy8t88

Plasma Coils!

Bondek

12y↑2

@20thCenturyfan1701 the scene itself does have shades of that moment as the Reliant inches towards Enterprise. Here, you get the same 'this is going to happen' via the Klingons but it still packs punch. Of course, it goes downhill from here...quite literally.

DrifterRZero

11y↑8

Watch "Enterprise-D fights Husnock warship" on youtube copy and paste, and watch scene began at 1:09 you will see why a outdated Bird of Prey will die in under a 1 min.

Will

5y↑1

Eerily similary sounding to Wrath of Khan with this. Luckily Discovery is totally making the heartbreak of Generations worth it. For me at least.

Sixu

@Lane Steele It is spelled "douche".. Moron.

Lane Steele

Discovery SUCKS, you DUSCH

Lex TheLegend

5y↑8

"Outgunned?"
More like "Outrunned" or "Outmanuevered"

Will

9y↑6

MANY of you forget that this and one other song are the only two things good to come out of this movie.

thewewguy8t88

6y↑1

well the whole 15-20 min opening was actually pretty good/not that bad and if they somehow manged to make that the whole movie they might have had something. infact as a kid i would watch this movie and only watch the first 20 min before shutting off the movie lol.

Will

7y↑1

honestly in hind sight, it was good. I just remember being so upset as a kid because of Kirk

OpenMawProductions

8y↑1

Irony, they're basically reused tracks.

Lego Lover 2014

8y↑5

They filmed the scene this because they had to destroy the enterprise d to introduce the enterprise e for the next film

David Powell

12y↑1

@wsad8you Their shield frequency was known, that's what did them in. They didn't have the phasic thing set up like with the Borg, plus they were in a gravity well.

Will

9y↑4

J.J. Abrams properly killed off a Kirk.

LoganHunter82

@1970sTIGERTIGER Well, he is a turd, though.

1970sTIGERTIGER

5y↑1

here we go again J.J.Abrams blasting again!

redhawkmillenium

5y↑3

Rotate your damn shield frequencies Riker smh

DrifterRZero

11y↑3

Battle was silly, the bird of prey would have die in 10 seconds even if E-D shield was not working, and instead they fire two phaser shot and soak battle damage. Remind me of also in the TNG ep Yesterday Enterprise, if using same tactic with Husnock warship. That alt-universe E-D would have won or at least destroy two klingon ship All Riker has to say was" fire phaser on full with full volley of photon torpedo" Just watch from you tube " Enterprise-D fights Husnock warship" copy and past

Will

5y↑1

But then again where is the sense in having a Starship WIth their families and it's clearly been used in Combat several times......

Jon Lyons

11y↑3

Will Riker destroyed The Enterprise-D

WilfredIvanhoe

9y↑29

"Outgunned?" Such a badly written fight in Trek context. Shields or not, a Galaxy-class ship should be able to completely disintergrate an outdated Bird-of-prey. Especially with shields down they should have have fired a full "broadside" non-stop without sparing any ammo to get the attacker out of commission asap!

Even the Odyssey did better against the Jem'hadar and was only destroyed by the kamikaze attack.

Jamie Olberding

Still a great space ship duel/battle between a Federation Galaxy class starship and a heavily armed D-12 class Klingon Bird of Prey!

ThatNuttyFanboy

6y↑2

The scene makes so much more sense if one realizes that the original baddies were supposed to be the Romulans. A D'deridex warbird would've been far more of a match to the Enterprise.

Crimson Revenant

7y↑1

You know I always wanted to point this out. But the Klingon's first torpedoes hit an area of the ship that is labeled defensive shield grid on most blueprints of the galaxy-class... not to mention the deuterium tanks are also around the same area.

Grassulus

Allan Grey You know they have aft torpedo launchers too right?

Grassulus

8y↑1

Agreed badly scripted scene. ):

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sfried

12y↑1

Disagree completely. I like Generations more than IV. And more than First Contact.

That Guy...Brian

12y↑1

Oh hey there mister Plinkett, want a pizza roll and a copy of Star trek the motion picture?

wsad8you

12y↑3

yeah right, federation flagship and the same enterprise that took on a borg cube and survived intact, the same enterprise that took on so much worse.. and then it comes up against a 50 year old bird of prey and is destroyed, what a joke, should have at least been a neg-var or vorcha attack ship or even a romulan warbird :/