The Tape-beatles (aka Public Works) are a multi-media group from Iowa City,… Read Full Bio ↴The Tape-beatles (aka Public Works) are a multi-media group from Iowa City, IO[/placeformed that formed in December 1986. Its members include [artist]Lloyd Dunn, John Heck, Paul Neff, and Ralph Johnson. Beginning with analog tape recorders, and later expanding to include digital technology and film media, the group has used collage techniques to create works that challenge the notion of intellectual property. Their works make extensive use of materials appropriated from various sources through a process they call "Plagiarism®". The Tape-beatles’ body of work consists mainly of music and audio art recordings, ‘expanded' and 'performed' cinema performances, videos, printed publications, and works in other media. They work under the umbrella organization called Public Works Productions.

Members of the Tape-beatles currently include as of this writing Lloyd Dunn and John Heck. Former or occasional members of the group include Linda Morgan Brown, Chuck Hollister, Ralph Johnson, and Paul Neff.

The group's initial focus was to create music that made use of techniques borrowed from musique concrète, but applied to a popular music context. To this end, they eschewed conventional musical instruments, instead contending that tape recording and the recording studio itself was their 'instrument'.

The Tape-beatles, who then consisted of Dunn, Heck and Johnson, put out their first major work, A subtle buoyancy of pulse, in 1988. In keeping with the tape aesthetic, the work was available only on cassette (until being reissued 10 years later on CD by Staalplaat, Amsterdam, the Netherlands). Public response was sufficiently favorable that the group began immediate work on a new album, adding two new members along the way: Paul Neff and Linda Morgan Brown.

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She was so beautiful to watch
Swirling in and out of view
A seemingly Spanish dancer hands and heel
A moonfaced girl with eyes down turned
Subtle flusters beneath blackened threads
Refined and tempting
So shy and enticing yet I fear
She'll disappear before the night ends

Time seems to bring us together again
A decade later and another face
Are you the girl I've been dreaming of?
You look like her smell like her
That raven-haired beauty of another time
A rush of memories washing over me
I've always been waiting for someone to set me free

Those eyes quietly tell me of a passion we could share
The dance reminds me of a life that we once knew
Snares for my hopes snares for my thoughts
Snares for my dreams drifting onto oblivion
Can you tell me about the intuition I feel
Can you tell me about everything I long to understand?

Remnants of a deeper purity
Remnants of a deeper purity

She was so beautiful to watch drifting out into oblivion

A moonfaced memory with eyes down turned
Are you the one the one I've been dreaming of?

Overall Meaning

The lyrics of The Tape-beatles' song "Deeper in" evoke a sense of nostalgia and longing for a connection with someone from the past. The singer describes a woman who is captivating to watch, with a graceful presence akin to that of a Spanish dancer. Despite her allure, there is a sense of fragility and impermanence, as if she might disappear before the night ends. The passage of time brings a new face into the picture, raising the question of whether this new person is the same as the one the singer has been dreaming of. The singer notes the similarities in appearance and scent, recalling the beauty of the past. The eyes of this person seem to communicate a shared passion, and the dance they engage in reminds the singer of a life they once knew. There is a hint of melancholy and a desire to understand and connect on a deeper level, as the singer seeks answers about the feelings and intuition they experience.

Overall, these lyrics capture the longing for a past connection and the hope of finding it again in the present. The song explores themes of memory, time, and the elusive nature of meaningful relationships.

Line by Line Meaning

She was so beautiful to watch
Her appearance captivated me, I was in awe of her beauty

Swirling in and out of view
She moved gracefully, appearing and disappearing like a swirling dance

A seemingly Spanish dancer hands and heel
She had the elegance and charm of a Spanish dancer in her every move

A moonfaced girl with eyes down turned
Her face had a roundness to it, and she seemed shy or introverted with her eyes cast downward

Subtle flusters beneath blackened threads
There were hints of nervousness or excitement beneath her dark clothing

Refined and tempting
She had an air of sophistication and allure

So shy and enticing yet I fear
Despite her alluring nature, I have a fear that she may not remain

She'll disappear before the night ends
I worry that she will vanish before the night comes to a close

Time seems to bring us together again
After a decade, fate has reunited us

A decade later and another face
After ten years, a different appearance but a familiar connection

Are you the girl I've been dreaming of?
Could you be the one I've fantasized about in my dreams?

You look like her smell like her
Your physical features and fragrance resemble the woman I've longed for

That raven-haired beauty of another time
You possess the same dark, lustrous hair that the woman from my past had

A rush of memories washing over me
A flood of memories from our previous connection overwhelms me

I've always been waiting for someone to set me free
Throughout my life, I have yearned for someone who could liberate me from my constraints

Those eyes quietly tell me of a passion we could share
Her eyes convey a silent message about the possibility of a shared passion between us

The dance reminds me of a life that we once knew
The dance we engage in brings back memories of a previous life we shared

Snares for my hopes snares for my thoughts
There are traps that ensnare my aspirations and imprison my thoughts

Snares for my dreams drifting onto oblivion
These traps also threaten to pull my dreams into a state of nothingness

Can you tell me about the intuition I feel
Can you provide insight into the strong intuition I am experiencing?

Can you tell me about everything I long to understand?
Can you shed light on all the things I yearn to comprehend?

Remnants of a deeper purity
Traces of a profound innocence or wholesomeness that remain

She was so beautiful to watch drifting out into oblivion
Her beauty was mesmerizing as it faded away into nothingness

A moonfaced memory with eyes down turned
A reminiscent image of a memory; a round-faced person with eyes cast downward

Are you the one the one I've been dreaming of?
Could you be the person I've fantasized about and yearned for?

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lhasa7

3y↑80

My earliest Beatles memory is listening to Magical Mystery Tour on 8-track in our family RV whilst driving from California to Georgia and back in 1970.

Parlogram

3y↑16

What a wonderful picture that paints.

BilisNegra

3y↑5

That sounds as ridiculously cool as if somebody had made it up for a movie script.

From Me To You

They looped

Charles Bronson

1y↑1

I had Magical Mystery Tour on 8-track. Still have it.

Dale

Lucky

TotoFrancey

3y↑34

For what ever reason -- of which I don't know the answer -- George Harrison probably had the most 8-Track releases of any Beetle (either group or solo). The 8-Track of his 1987 album "Cloud Nine" is considered to be one of the "Holy Grails" of collecting in this format as there were only a very small number produced. It is interesting to note that while "Cloud Nine" is on 8-Track, "Travelling Wilburys Vol. One" is not. Another extremely rare 8-Track of the same period is U2's "Rattle and Hum."

MisterBiscuits

The US has a super rare 8-track for the 20 Greatest Hits album! They were released but recalled and destroyed pretty quickly. Something like 10 exist?

backbaconnbeer

2y↑1

Of all the solo Beatles George was the last to release an album on 8 track ( 1988)

Daniel Bonilla

3y↑29

I have hundreds of tapes that I resplice, repad, and spin regularly, The early American “Flat Pak” tapes and other early Ampex were dubbed real time and have very close quality to reel. Some are real mind blowing with their sound quality, I have White Light/White Heat and We’re Only In It For The Money and they sound better than the vinyl to me. If your splices break I can show you some easy fixes!

Flex Appeal by Chasity

3y↑34

Give this man an Oscar for editing! Loved the video

M De Santiago

2y↑2

I was a teen in the 2000s with a record player and an 8 track player in my room and out of all the 8 track tapes I was able to get from uncles and flea markets it was a Sex Pistols 8 track that sounded the best - warm and heavy, guitar sounded great, right amount of low end high end - the cd copy I had at the time didn’t sound as good as that 8 track copy

Sony Hunter UK

3y↑3

The foam pads can be made quite cheaply using draft excluder which is available at DIY stores for a couple of quid for 10 metres.
This is less convenient but considerably cheaper !

Linda Wolff/Kashmir27

3y↑1

Two things: 8 tracks had a tendency to split up longer songs, so you might find the first half on track 2, then the second half on track 3, so there would be a pause when the tape switched tracks, the standard cassette never had this, so you got the uninterrupted song. Also, 8 track set up its cassettes so a measured amount of music would appear on each track, and to achieve this, they sometimes would drop a song from the lineup that you would have found on the vinyl or the cassette, or fade out sooner. If you could overlook these faults, it was a decent format for playing in the car, or on your house stereo when you had a group of people together. For a person who wanted every single song on their 8 track that they had on the vinyl, not so much.

robert avila

3y↑13

My favorite 8 track was the Hey Jude one from the US. It had the best stereo separation. I always thought that 8tracks sounded better than cassettes except for the interruption on some songs. Great video!

Sean Sweeney

3y↑5

Yea! Twice the tape width, twice the tape speed... Consider that they were basically used for every radio station cart between 5 or so years ago all the way back to the mid sixties and they are literally the most widely heard format on the planet with about 10 to the power of 10 more plays than the next format down!

h2ofield

3y↑2

I agree on the best stereo separation!

Sean Sweeney

3y↑3

@h2ofield I am not trying to be contrary but best stereo separation has more to do with the actual mix than the format. S far as stereo separation the 8 track is about as good as the cassette, But given that the transport is actually partly in the tape shell the tape tracking has a lot to do with the construction of the tape shell itself the pressure pais the pressure pads and pinch roller and the quality of tape. The only thing that this really affects to any great degree is cross talk... Because of the 8 track and it's slightly sloppy cartridges pinch rollers and tape that was lubricated with graphite... They often were a little bit off centre in the way they tracked and the way the tape moved in the transport.... Where as the compact cassettes have a much more exact type of cassette shell and tracked in a more narrow groove... And the pinch roller and cap Stan were both self contained in the player... But I would say that given the actual tape with for each individual track was identical, 8 tracks have the edge by being twice the speed in inches per second. This would have been sufficient to keep 8 tracks in the lead and superior to cassettes at any point ever but because the format was largely abandoned later on cassettes improved in sound while the 8 tracks degraded... By the late late seventies you saw very few major releases with an 8 track version and even then the 8 tracks sounded worse and worse, the splices didn't last as long, the tape shells were cheap and inferior and the tape itself very inferior compared to the higher end cassette tapes being manufactured. It was basically a case of planned obsolescence. Were going to push one and pull the other and nobody in their right mind will be buying an 8 track in a year or 2. Same thing that happened with records by the way...

narcisco

3y↑3

@Sean Sweeney
Radio carts are not 8-tracks though. They are similar, yet they're not the same. They usually have 3 tracks, 2 for Stereo sound, one for a cue signal. They usually play at 7.5 ips instead of the 3.75 of that of 8-tracks and 4-tracks.
8-tracks have the pinch roller built in. Radio carts and 4-track cartridges don't and have a hole there.

Sean Sweeney

3y↑2

@narcisco sure, I guess I was just saying that the basic design of the continuous loop design and size/shell. Although, I had several 8 track quad tapes, and also mono 4 track tapes from the 60s... so they played pretty loose with the format even within the format.

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Joe Dee

3y↑1

Your videos are always so informative and well produced and fun to watch. I wish I could afford to collect all these formats and variations, but in the meantime I’ll live vicariously through videos like yours!

Space Cat

2y↑1

The first time I even heard of 8-Track was when I first watched A Clockwork Orange. The main character, Alex, pops in "Ludwig's Number 9" in his stereo,
and I can remember being fascinated with this huge cartridge thing I'd never seen before. It looked pretty neat, and of course, the music sounded very good
as well, which created the illusion that it was the 8-Track that produced that kind of quality, rather than the audio source and mix used for the film.
It was only later, when watching YouTube videos, that I was made aware of the format's negative reputation.
But I still like the look of the things, and I wouldn't mind a digital version of 8-Tracks. Not USB sticks, but actual clunky cartridges!

gary chambers

3y↑22

Back in 1973 For my 19th Birthday, My parents gave me a "New" Stereo, with AM-FM Receiver, 2 Speakers, a turntable, and a 8-Track recorder !
All I had to do was buy blank 8 track cartridges. I would make my 8-Track Tapes. So cool! Made up my own Beatles Albums, Beatle Solo! I would glue a cool picture
on the tape cartridge! I would carry a couple of shoe-boxes filled with my 8-track tapes I made. for my car! I loved it! I had a good car stereo with great speakers.
Excellent sound, especially when the speakers are installed in the back dash board. The Trunk made them sound great!

Chris McGovern

3y↑7

I had the UK Revolver on 8-Track in the late 70's (we got it in a US department store of all places)! I loved that tape, it was such a great way to discover the full UK album for the 1st time ever!

Moses Browning

3y↑21

Yes! 8 tracks! I just got a few Beatles 8 tracks. " Blue Jay Way" sounds so eerie on 8 track

Derek Roberts

42w

I remember having “Let It Be” on 8-track. I remember George’s song “For You Blue” was divided into 2 parts between programs 3 and 4. When you hear George saying “Elroy James got nothing on this thing” the song quickly fades and the tape switches over to program 4 where the song continues.

Mondegreen

3y↑8

As a European kid who grew up in the 80's and 90's, the first time I'd ever even heard of 8 tracks was in a Beavis & Butthead episode on MTV when they were ruining their teacher's 8 track collection (Three Dog Night et al), and I had no idea what the hell they were. They reminded me of those Super 8 film cartridges we had, or those old video games we used to play on the C64.

CheckEngineLight94

Saluton! Mi lernas paroli Esperanton.

mojorisen74

3y↑5

I still have 8 tracks (Over 100 of them) and play them regularly on a well serviced player. Once the pads are replaced they should sound really good. The 8 tracks from the late 70's up till the 80's really started to excel in sound quality and may not have been so bad if they were easier to maintain

Malcolm Tent

In the late 1970's, I found UK 8 tracks of "The Beatles Live At The Hollywood Bowl" in the cutout bin of the Treasury department store in Hialeah, Florida, where I grew up. They were half the price of the US version, and were packaged much more attractively. They sounded great, too! I never knew there were so many other UK 8 tracks until watching this episode.

Bangulo

3y↑4

8 Tracks can actually sound pretty damn good. If you have a decent player and have a decent release. just like vinyl some pressings can sound horrible and some can sound amazing. Really 8 track always has a boost in the low end. It has its own sound just like all analogue formats. 8 track just requires a lot of tape maintenance but so does vinyl! all part of the hobby. 8 Tracks with dolby even if you're not playing them on a dolby player usually sound really good.

Smalls the Timelord

3y↑4

I love 8-track tapes! Whenever you get a new 8-track it is a good idea to check the condition of the aluminum sensing foil to avoid the tape coming unfurled in the player and possibly get damaged. (I learned that the hard way when I got my first 8-track tape.) You can get foil tape from Amazon.

John Villanova

I remember my friend had a quad system...it sounded great and the 8track quad tapes were very discreet...the separation was phenomenal!

Mamacartney

My dad bought me an 8 track of Revolver and Rubber Soul in 1972 simply because he had it enough of getting me new vinyl copies. I literally worn them out 🥴 and took my records with me virtually everwhere, trips, weekend family visits, etc. I have NO idea how he got those "magazines" (that's what they were normally called here), I just was simply too amazed to actually be able to listen to The Beatles in his car, so I never asked 🤣

Kenneth Wiczynski

1y↑1

I had a 8-track collection but sold it back in 2019, they were breaking, constantly getting stuck, I considered them unplayable. peace & love

WC0125

3y↑1

As a first generation 8-track consumer I can say they were quite fun and also hideous on many levels. They gave us a great way to have portable tunes but in reality sounded pretty medocre. My collection has not aged well either. pads disintegrate, splices have died and keeping a nearly 55 year old collection of these nostalig items working is much more work than any other format.

As for my Capitol Beatles tapes...they were and are what they were; mass produced and made to be used but by far from being excellent sounding. This is true even when enjoyed on the highest of 8-track machines of the day. Nevertheless they are still a part of our collective audio and Beatle history.

Joel Goldenberg

3y↑1

My first Beatles album was the 8-track of the U.S. Rubber Soul, and I listened to it numerous times. Not all my 8-tracks had such durability, unfortunately.

King ForADay

31w

Ya gotta remember when these came out it was amazing and cool we could listen to our favorite music while driving around in our car and not have to depend on whatever the radio station decided to play!! As far as sound quality goes there wasnt much to compare to as most of us had the cheap little all in one record players in our bedroom. Cassettes just weren't "cool"! Also their was much more music available on 8 track than cassette!

Roger Cleven

3y↑2

Thank you for the memories, Andrew. In the 70s, my family’s Zenith stereo featured an 8 track player/recorder. My dad and I would buy blank 8 tracks and record some of our favorite LPs onto them for road trips. Two of my favorites for the road were Rubber Soul (US) and Sgt Peppers. My dad’s favorites involved fiddle music. On the road I would usually get my 15-20 minutes of the Beatles before my dad said, that was enough before switching it out for his favorite fiddler.😆I would also record many mix tapes for the road which I was able to listen to them longer when my dad wasn’t in the car.😆My dad did take to liking “Ob-la- Di, Ob-la-da” and referred to it as, “Ob-la-di, Oh-my-gosh”.

Parlogram

3y↑1

Great memories, Roger. Thanks for sharing them.

Barry Batson

I just recently bought an 8-track player and have been adding tapes to my collection. I am very pleased with the sound quality plus to have such a negative reputation these tapes are in great shape for 40 to 50 years old. Replacing the pads is simple enough. Plus there are no pops and crackles like old vinyl.

Tyler Partnow

Loved this video! 8 Tracks are one of my favorite formats, so much so that I actually put an 8 Track player in my car. I love collecting them too, and living in the states I often find cheap lots of them at flea markets and antique stores and such. I have some pretty rare ones as well, London Calling by the Clash, Sunflower by the Beach Boys, The Pleasure Principle by Gary Numan, and I just today finally got my holy grail 8 Track, the extremely difficult to find Drums and Wires by XTC. It's a truly unique format with a lot of quirks but a lot of truly great attributes as well; like you said, "what format is really perfect anyway?" Plus you can't beat that vintage analog sound in my opinion. Can't wait to see what else you've got in your collection

MSMediaRotterdam

In The Netherlands, 8-Track was available. The sound quality was about a well enough played standard audio cassette. In cars, 8 Tracks sounded good enough to serve the purpose of music listening on the road until audio cassettes took over.

Bill Leary

3y↑1

Thanks for this video Andrew! This was a very cool concept. I do have some experience with Beatles 8 track tapes. My uncle owned a copy of Sgt. Pepper which he left behind when he went to college. I borrowed it to play in our stereo system which did have an 8 track player. I remember the different song line up as well as bleed over from other tracks and having to sit through songs I might not have cared for in order to listen my favorites. I remember the sound wasn’t great but that could have been the 8 track player as this was older system....all in all a very interesting video. Thanks you!

MusicByWinston

3y↑2

Couple of things... if the label extends onto the back of the cartridge, poking holes in the label will be necessary to open the cart for servicing. Careful too, not to tear the label if it crosses the joint between front and back pieces of the cart itself. Second, I recommend cutting that foam piece where it gets smushed behind the pin. It will give a better, more even pressure behind the tape to make a more solid contact with the playback head.
You got lucky with this example. Usually the tape wants to escape and you have to be careful not to pinch it between the halves when reassembling it. I enjoyed this video. Keep up the good work!

moondogaudio jones

Great show! I never had that much luck with the 8-track tapes. Plus there were edits (cut outs and fade outs) of tunes especially on the White Lp because of re-tracking and length of tape (is my guess). That was infuriating. I think that would be fun to chat about as well.
Thanks for showing how to repair the 8track cassette and as always...thanks for your candor and expertise!

Gerard McLernon

Bought an 8 track machine for $10 Australian in an op shop in Geelong Victoria many years ago. Sat in a cupboard for about 15 years. Has been great fun restoring it. Was given a large collection of tapes which has been also great fun restoring, too. Will definitely look for some Beatles tapes.

Petertronic

Really good coverage of the history of the format. I recently got into 8-track and have 100+ tapes already that I'm re-padding & re-splicing. I have noticed EMI tapes are generally better sounding, I think they had much better quality control with their duplication.

Parlogram

I agree that EMI’s were best. The ones made by PRT were awful.

John Aston

3y↑3

Great Video as always.My introduction to 8 tracks was seeing a batch of brand new Hergest Ridge tapes by Mike Oldfield in a Sex Shop in Southend of all places. Also of note is the 8 track of Animals by Pink Floyd which had an otherwise cut guitar solo during Pigs on the Wing. Who else thought the theme from Shaft was playing during the Unboxing of the 13 Eight Tracks???

PC No

I was thinking "nice blaxploitation music" as I watched it. It set the 1970s mood.

PC No

I think the only reason 8-tracks were sold a little longer in the USA is that they entered the market earlier and thus there was a large installed base of players, many of them built into cars and all-in-one stereos. By the time I could afford a decent tape deck, in 1975, 8-tracks were already a little passe, though I owned the one that had been original equipment in my 1973 Coup Deville and borrowed a tape (Rolling Stones's More Hot Rocks) from my bosses collection. I still remember skipping around the 4 programs to hear the songs I liked as they came up. One of the first things one noticed about these tapes was that unlike records, reels and even cassettes, you didn't see anything moving, making them a little closer to what we're used to with digital music toady. One major flaw with these things was the fact that as the tape was pulled out from the center of the reel, the outer layers were constantly sliding against the inner ones, wearing the tape out faster. I don't know why Lear didn't go for RCA's original 1/4" cassettes (very much like the Phillips system, but bigger) from 1959, for which RCA made auto-reverse players; they would have been ideal for cars and planes and just as convenient.

PS: One of the best sounding 8-track players I've ever heard was made by Collaro of the UK, for Magnavox which installed Callaro record changers and tape decks in the consoles (stereograms) that were almost ubiquitous in early 1970s U.S. households. It sounded much better than the ones from the far east.

A.A.

Really interesting stuff! I love learning about past music technology. I've got vinyls and completely agree with that last statement about using them. I take care of them but would never just store them away never to be used again.

David Perkins

1:20 - The major design-flaw was the adding of a pinch-roller to EACH cartridge! Earlier versions (that were used by US radio stations right through the 1990s) employed their own pinch-roller that would pop up after the cartridge was inserted. This resulted in steady and correct tape-speed.

I first experienced the Yellow Submarine album on my brother's 8-track back in 1970! I still remember listening to the instrumental "Pepperland' over and over! It immediately followed 'All You Need Is Love' :)

Olav Alexander Rød

Been waiting for this... such a good video! Thank you so so soooo much for making such quality videos on interesting topics. Keep up the wonderful work!

Parlogram

3y↑1

Thanks for watching, Olav. Glad you enjoyed it.

steve bennett

Love those UK EMI 8 tracks and the various colors they came in. I'm in the USA but I collect Pink Floyd 8 tracks from around the world and the EMI UK tapes are my favorite.

Parlogram

I agree, Steve. The EMI ones are best!

stationminute

Blast from the past. My first car had an 8-track player, and I owned a whopping total of three 8-track tapes -- Abbey Road, Nazareth's Hair of the Dog, and a compilation of Scott Joplin piano rags. The soundtrack of my summer between high school and college.

Peter X's Comusic Room

Hi Andrew, this took me back to a childhood/ teenage memory of my next door neighbour and his domestic 8-Track recorder. I had seen them in cars but not in a home. He and I would record LP's off each other (I had cassettes as well as Open Reel...still do actually). I ended up with about 10 Jethro Tull albums on tape. The format was not that popular domestically and gave way to cassettes here too. I enjoyed this video thanks. Especially when you repaired the tape cartridge. I had never seen the inner workings of an 8-track cartridge so that was interesting. Cheers mate 😊👍😎

Parlogram

3y↑1

Cheers Pete, glad you enjoyed it!

B Mac

Pioneer Super Tuner under dash unit with 8-track! It was awesome. I routinely taped my albums onto blank tape to listen to them in the car as well as make mixed tapes. *-Tracks were big with truckers in the USA. Cassettes at the time had lousy sound, but that changed quickly!

Bryan Pabustan

Maybe not as precise and accurate as CDs are but maybe these 8 Tracks will give some sort of nostalgia as you heard the music back in the day. I mean when we were kids, we have almost never heard the Beatles in a very very precise and accurate reproduction. For nostalgia purposes, 8 Tracks do the job quite nicely I guess.

Josh Simpson

My dad had some 8 track players, so I’ve always had a soft spot for them. But there was always things about them that annoyed me. Certain tracks fading out and continuing on the next track being a big one.

JB

Very informative, thank you for uploading! I knew next to nothing about 8 track cartridges and have only ever seen a handful for sale. They look like a LOT of faff to restore and get working. Gonna stick to LPs and CDs ;)

Think someone else mentioned on here though the guitar solo on Pink Floyd's Animals that bridges the two parts of Pigs on the Wing, which is unique to the 8 track release. It's floating around online and is worth a listen, because it loops the album back round to the beginning to make it a continuous album like Dark Side, Wish You Were Here and The Wall. Which is nice.

Stephen Martin

Guilty as charged for me! I had the Sgt. Pepper 8-Track back in the mid-70s. The heads on my player were badly out of alignment and given the way the stereo was separated songs sounded strange indeed. Lucy in the Sky with only bass, vocals, and organ, for example. The run order was also different to the LP version, and I can still play it in my head.

Ian Hughes

Just was'nt familiar with this format at all before watching your illuminating video Andrew despite being aware of them in the 70's.So interesting about the packaging as well and enjoyed the DIY with the foam strip too! Cheers Ian

Lee Sharra

Thanks for this video. I never had an 8-track player myself. Although I had friends who had these beasts in their cars. There is some serious weirdness in the Beatles' 8-Tracks. See Doug Sulpy's for more info @ https://dsulpy.proboards.com/thread/13169/beatles-track-cartridges. For instance, the 8 track edition of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band features a longer edit of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise), created to fill more of the tape and "even out" the recording sides. At about 1:15, where Paul's "Woo!" is heard, the previous 15 seconds are replayed and that "Woo!" is heard again before the song completes. The White Album is a mess as well. I had heard that at least one of the version of the White Album Reel to Reel was also challenged.

Paul Wetor

3y↑1

I had an 8-track in my car because I was able to record and make my own tapes. It was freedom from radio - I could listen to exactly what I wanted. But 8-tracks had two major flaws: the short track length, and (even worse) the graphite tape backing that would wear off the tapes. Over time, the tape would become harder and harder to pull through the cartridge. And the tape heads were prone to a buildup of crud that required head cleaning. And the metal tab holding the tape together and signaling the track change would fall off. Cassettes were so much better, simpler, and smaller.

Mark Boulton

A short summary:

The "Tombstone" (I came up with that phrase) design started in 7008 by DP, and lasted until 7201 when the gold 'Biggest Sound Around' design appeared but on the top label which remained in colour and the separate rear label remained. It was 7209 when the hard cases and C-cards in the same gold style appeared. 7308 was when the all-gold style changed to gold-top, 7402 is when the hard cases changed to floppy, brittle ones, 7403-4 was when there were no cases just shrinkwrapping, and 7405 when the laminated card cases with the wraparound printing were launched. All the packaging designs continued to use the same layout design - e.g. there were laminated wraparound cases printed with all-gold designs of titles that came out on 8-track when that design was current.
Shell colours changed every few months depending on stock. I haven't noted them all down, but for instance 7008-7102 were mostly blue, 7103-07 mostly green, 7108 to 7201 used crimson shells (I have a crimson, Tombstone version and a blue, gold colour label copy of Wings Wild Life, 8X-PCS7142, plus the latter style which I believe was used exclusively for 8X-PCS7143, "Mrs. Mills Music Hall Party" (yes, another one)), Feb 72 to later 72 used dark blue, then they went to green for a while, then during most of 1973 they used up their stocks of sky blue "Executive" shells on all tapes they made, then after another period of using dark blue in late 73/early 74, went to black, until later in 74 onwards when white shells seem to have been exclusively used.

Edit: The all-gold inlay cards with no date code are simply ones that used the artwork masters from prior batches - i.e. Pepper was first released on 8-track before date codes were used, and the back of the gold inlay is just a copy of the original back label. Similarly gold inlays showing 7009 are simply copying the original 7009 back label but would have been first issued in the gold style in 7209 but not stated as such.

Parlogram

All great information, Mark. Thanks for posting!

George Williams

Had a 8 track player in my car and a recording unit at home.Had a ton of them for a number of years when a friend of mine bought car with one in it gave him a bunch they played great until the track changed then the tape disintegrated.

mb video selection

3y↑3

I have a technique for changing the felt pads without having to snap those clips in the back and open the cartridge up, which often cracks the shell and rips and punctures the label if the earlier design.

mb video selection

3y↑1

I use one scissor blade to pull out a loop of tape about 5cm out, from the middle window, then use that blade to chip out the old felt pad strip, pulling it all out from under the left-hand window too. I then blow out the remaining felt and fluff chunks and scrape any difficult bits away with the end of the blade. I then cut a piece of draught excluder strip (the harder bright white kind, not the softer yellowy-white kind, because they themselves degrade or soften again after a couple of years) and I slot it in underneath the loop of tape, using the scissor blade to hold the tape out of the way while I'm doing it. I then do the same for the left-hand window, pulling the slack from the middle window. That just requires a slightly shorter piece of strip. After that I take up the slack using the pinch roller. And, hey presto... Fixed without breaking the cartridge open.

Parlogram

Great tip. Thanks for sharing it.

Ty Willinganz

Even when I was a kid I couldn't figure out why my mom's 8 tracks would cut off in the middle of songs and I always remember the loud "CLICKS" when it changed over from one track to the other

Jesse Russell

3y↑1

I love collecting music from many different formats, the A-Trak’s were pretty good, except for the thing I didn’t really like was when one song and then the last track it would be in the middle of the first track of the first sign on the left.

I remember I had a couple of a track tapes one was Buddy Holly and the other one was the beach boys endless summer album which I bought on vinyl for $10 at a place in Salem called Ranch records. I’ve never heard any Beatles on a track before I might have to get some of those.

I still love listening to the Beatles on vinyl and on CD.

Mark James Meli

I came along during the 8-Track era in the US. Some folks had them, most didn't. My brother bought a player for his home stereo in the mid-1970s. Some manufacturers made them better than others. At least domestically, if the tape was produced through a Warner Brothers / Atlantic records affiliated label, the sound was horrendous. However, if it was an EMI / Capitol tape, the sound was remarkable. Our proof of this was the cartridge for LOOKING ON by the Move (believe it or not!). By 1978-79, the sound on most all of them was bad, as they were being manufactured (seemingly) for portable devices. Tracks were being split in half to fit the timing of the format, or the speeds were being adjusted on the tracks themselves. By 1980 or so the 8-Track format was cut from production, pretty much across the board. The only exception then was the "record clubs" that kept them in production until the early 1980s. During the day, most record store chains kept as many Beatles' titles in stock as possible. The reason for that is that (the best I could tell) most Beatles' fans stopped buying 8-Tracks by 1976. Thank you for showing the inner-workings of the cartridges and going the usual extra step for a great video.

GEORGE MUSIC 4 ALL 4 SEASONS

This is a great show and you made it so interesting considering I was not going to watch but glad I did, thank you.

Parlogram

Glad you enjoyed it!

joe paluka

I used to have some clunky 8 tracks. The Beatles white album was shocking, cutting a track in half to fit the length of the tape loop. I had a player in my car and the tapes took up so much space. I'm in the UK so as said in this video there was not much room to store a lot of 8 tracks

plan7a

I've bought lots of 8-Track carts in the past few years, and finally got a player in the last month or so. I tried to fix a rather unspooled cart, but sadly it wasn't to be; I guess I was too hasty and broke the case. This wasn't helped by the label on the back which was covering the clips which disintegrated and ripped when I tried opening it. (It wasn't an important one, so it wasn't a big loss). I found and purchased 'Let It Be' on 8-Track recently (so this comment is Beatles related), but there's a problem; a snapped off bit of loose tape was in the slip case also, which I assume has come from it; I won't attempt to fix this one, but as I have the two parts of the tape (inner and outer), it may be possible in the future? I've not tested the player yet; I think it may need some attention, but I've got to try to find the right adaptor to plug it into a more modern day device, as it doesn't have a headphone socket. It's easier to replace or repair a compact cassette, if the 8-Track had used screws, it would have been easier to fix these too, at least the foam parts.

Dan Pessell

In 1979, my parents rented an RV (recreational vehicle) to drive from Arcadia Ohio to Tulsa Oklahoma to watch my brother compete in the junior olympics. It was my introduction to 8-track and the Beatles. The RV had 2 tapes, the only one I remember was 1963-1966. I fell in love (with the Beatles) instantly. I bought the vinyl version a few years later. The one thing I could never figure was in the song "And I Love Her." I seem to remember a different mix--the final verse being single-tracked vocal vs double-tracked on the vinyl. Doesn't matter. Hey, I love these videos! Thank you and please continue to entertain and inform us. I've lost my Capital pressing of Help, but not my enthusiasm for all things Beatle.

Gene Savage

3y↑1

I never knew Dolby was used on 8-tracks! Never saw a player with Dolby, never saw a tape encoded with Dolby. Thought I knew about all there was to know about 8-tracks but I learned something today!

Paul S

2y↑1

Columbia Records used Dolby in their 8-Tracks. I have Billy Joel and Paul McCartney tapes that used Dolby, and a Pioneer/Centrex recorder that has a Dolby switch

MrRETEROROB

2y↑1

I always thought 8-Track tapes had a nice, rich sound to them. I never minded the ' ker-chunk ' sound of the program changes, but it sucked when the program would change in the middle of a song. between 1977-1979 I remember walking to and from school and finding smashed 8-track tapes along the side of the road. these were probably thrown out of a moving car, after the tape deck 'ate' the tape. while I liked the sound these tapes had, the lack of liner notes, or any kind of album info, was a downer. are you still enjoying your 8-Tracks ?

Jason W

31w

Great video! I got quite a bit of Beatles 8-tracks as well and love em. I'm not sure if you did this because it wasn't in the video, nor was it mentioned, but when you change out the pad, you should always change out the foil splice tape... even if it looks good. I've had some that looked great but just popped off with a whisper. I also get my foam pads from a different seller; they're already on a backing plate, and they have a cut in the centre, so you don't have to jam it behind that post.

allanfries76

I had lots 40 or so 8-track tapes during the mid 70's, and most of the Beatles albums. Very handy in the car and home. Don't recall anything negative about them, but they were really popular here in Canada at the time.

5Rounds Rapid

Everyone always says 8-track was primarily an American format, but really they should say North American.

Ricky F

8-Track cartridges ran at 3 3/4 inches per second, compared to the cassette at a lower 1 7/8 I.P.S. tape speed, which is a reason why in the early days 8-Tracks had better sound quality, but with the main nuisances of cross-track bleeding and splitting long songs between tracks, with the annoying loud click of the moving head (as in Tomorrow Never Knows).

Clive Fern the Camper

I know this is an older video, but I recently picked up an 8 track player and bunch of tapes (including some Beatles and solo) for a good price. I’ve never had an 8 track player before, but was curious. The American Revolver has Tomorrow Never Knows split across two programs, while I Am The Walrus suffers the same fate on Magical Mystery Tour. I don’t mind, this is a novelty after all, and I can’t imagine anyone in the world claiming 8 track as their preferred format.
For anyone thinking about getting an 8 track, you need to know what you’re letting yourself in for. It’s almost a guarantee that any tapes you get will need some sort of repair, either the pad or a splice, and that’s if they don’t reach you tangled or jammed. I’ve also learnt that when opening the cartridge, if the reel comes off or too much tape comes out, say goodbye to your 8 track as they are a nightmare to put right again. So I have a bunch of tapes which are fun, but I won’t be adding to that collection or seeking out more tapes - maybe if an happen to see a Beatles 8 track in passing at a yard sale I might pick it up, but other than that.......

Matt Hayes Vinyl

Hi Andrew, wonderful as always! A very early YouTube video of mine was actually a comparison of A Day in the Life where I played brief clips from vinyl, CD, cassette and 8-Track. The 8-Track performed surprisingly well. As I recall, I think I placed it second behind the vinyl. However, I no longer own any 8-Track cartridges and sold my deck a couple of years ago. I loved the format for its eccentricity but ultimately found that too many stars had to align for it to truly sound good.

One thing you didn't mention - and I apologize if you did and I missed it - was the horrendous wow and flutter inherent with a single reel format like this. And while the tape speed is twice that of the compact cassette, the fidelity was still problematic due to the poorer tape formulation of the 8-Track, something that was solved by the early 70s in the compact cassette.

You mentioned that 8-Tracks were around until the early 80s but in fact they lived on until around 1988, though by that point new releases were only available through mail order subscriptions liken CRC. Many of the 80s releases are quite rare because so few were manufactured due to the low demand by that stage.

Finally, one other issue with 8-Tracks tends to be the pinch roller. Your Please Please Me looked pretty good and is perhaps made of plastic? However, a lot of cartridges used rubber rollers and many have since turned into sludge. It's a pretty easy replacement job, though.

Parlogram

3y↑1

Hi Matt, The pinch roller on the UK tapes are rubber and still in good shape. The roller in the U.S. George Harrison cart, which I show in the close up of the damaged foam pad, was plastic any maybe why U.S. tapes had more issues.

Fr. Tom Provenzano, SDB

My older brother had an 8 track deck built into the glove compartment of his 1974 Ford Pinto. Over all the sound system was worth more than the car. We had a couple of home players as well. I always thought the sound quality was good, especially when compared to cassette, which was the thing when I came of age. It was all the other problems you mention, like not being able to get to the song you wanted and the track bleed that were the real issues. And while the sound quality wasn't as good on cassettes (unless maybe you were using a quality tape, ripping the songs directly from vinyl at home), 8 tracks were just too bulky to store in the car.

Thomas Bingebo

Great video - Brings back memories from the mid 70's when I was about 7 years old. My parents had an 8-Track in our car - I'm Swedish - so it was a Volvo 145.

They didn't have many cassettes to choose from. Not the format of choice in Sweden.

But we had Abbey Road. My choice for all long drives :) played it a lot.

Parlogram

3y↑1

That's a wonderful memory, Thomas. Thanks for sharing.

Ron Martin

I was wondering how EMILY spread 14 tracks from the original 7 onto 4 tracks each,It must've been 3 then 4 for each successive track.

Stephen G

Enjoyed that thanks 👍
Very limited and not very successful experience 8 track, terrible format but then cassette wasn't must better when it first appeared. Your precious recordings were often chewed up in the car and they weren't that great to start with 😀 It's saving grace was it didn't butcher the tracks and of course eventually got way better 👍

James Murray

Interesting video. I’ve never owned 8 tracks either. Good to see another format.

David Manning

I did not have an 8 track . For my 1st experience pre teenager, I had a Play Tape player. The tapes were smaller than an 8 track and had only had 2 tracks with two songs on each. On The Beatle ones, they would have a 1967 photo of the 4 individuals all with mustaches with George having additional hair growing in the chin area. The White Album for Play Tape used black and white still photos instead of the color photos and may have had 5 individual tapes to cover most of the album. I do not recall if I had any other Beatles post White Album Play Tape nor any other tapes in my collection. Sears was the store where tapes and the machine were sold where I live in MA. Then I went to cassette cartridge pre Dolby awful Capital/Apple recordings. Won a copy of a Parlaphone Rubber Soul CD. Once hearing that, said no thank you to CD's until The 2004? version of The Capitol Albums Vol. 1 and 2. Thought there would be a Vol 3. Instead purchased the revised versions on the rest of their albums along with Let It Be Naked. Now if any new recordings appear, I go to the steaming services.

Jason Adams

Grew up on 8 track as a matter of face I still own several hundred and still play them quite often 8 tracks has some of the best bass response and I still enjoy them

Enrico Sanchez

Nice 8 track repair segment. Do cassette pads ever need similar replacement? I have some old cassettes that sound a little muffled, so I'm wondering if the pads need to be replaced.

Joan Lorente

3y↑2

It is the first time that I see this type of format, incredible! Thank you!

Be A Good Doga

3y↑1

Really? How old are you then?

Steve Kosak

3y↑1

man this guy knows his stuff !! i always grab a beer before his video's and enjoy!! Thank you just another outstanding one cheers!

Parlogram

Glad you enjoyed it, Steve!

Myles McGonigle

3y↑2

A little-known fact: a strange edit was on the version of Sgt. Pepper that I used to own way back when. In the Sgt. Pepper reprise, a verse was played twice at the end of the song. I've never been able to find this on any other format version of the album...

NuBlackMusic

The 8track tape was the best consumer music format ever

Massimo Merlini

We used to have them in Italy too.
They were called "Cassette Stereo 8"

Razor Sharp

Still have 15 8-tracks, including 6 Beatles and 1 George Harrison. The Beatles Greatest has a picture of a 1960's go-go girl on it with the word ROCK!. Revolver is yellow, with a drawing in red of a girls face looking up. It also has the song Birthday on it. Great video!!

Joseph B

Those are obviously bootleg tapes. Easily available in convenient stores in the U.S. in the 70s.

elwin38

The very 1st Beatle tapes i heard were 8 tracks from the red and blue albums in 1982. My older sisters boyfriend at the time use to loan them to me. I had to listen to them in my sisters car because everybody(including my family) hated the Beatles. I grew up in the inner city(the hood)and if you didnt listen to rap, soul, blues, or R&B, you were an oddball and out of touch. I used to get teased for listening to the Beatles so i had to listen to them when nobody was around or late at night.

Len B.

We always had trouble recording on blank 8 tracks getting that ker-chunk sound between tracks cutting off a few seconds of the song also never knowing when track 4 would end the song before it went to track 1 again !

Barry Webb

I have a collection of 8 track tapes and have been collecting the Beatles on 8 track I found that Yellow Submarine was the hardest to find but got it in the end.

Allison S

It's unthinkable today, but there were many instances of songs being faded out - MID SONG - before the track change and then being faded back in. Track listings had to be rearranged just to fit music on each track, but sometimes it just couldn't be done. Portability was the big attraction for 8-track cartridges but not exactly ease of use. Most players did not offer fast forward or reverse - just the clunky track change and you wouldn't know where you were landing on the next track. But to play your own music in the car was revolutionary, so they sold well. And I forgot about the bleeding from other tracks...LOL.

Larry Fontana

3y↑1

It's true, 8tracks were a compromise when it came to sound quality. They were manufactured using high-speed dubbing machines, and the tape was often inferior quality. Also, I don't remember seeing any tapes in the US using Dolby, which would have helped considerably. I also learned in engineering class that the "endless loop" design was prone to fail after numerous plays. I bought a tape splicing kit at Radio Shack to repair my tapes, because it happened so often! On the positive side, my home stereo had an 8track player/recorder, so I made my own mix tapes. In the 70s. I don't miss 8track at all. By the 80s, the quality of cassettes had improved. Yay!

JrGoonior

3y↑1

It looks like the UK tapes were early in using Dolby judging by the tapes he has here. I have MANY 8 tracks from about 1970 on, here in the US it appears that they weren't using it until a few years later. I have Billy Joel's "52nd Street" on 8-track and it is Dolby, released 1977. I have two different copies of Pink Floyd "The Wall". One sounds fantastic, the other must be worn out, the high end is almost completely missing.

Larry Fontana

@JrGoonior That's interesting. Most of my commercially released 8-tracks were before 77, but I had a few after that. No dolby on those. I'm guessing it depended on the label. I bought a new Pioneer tape deck in 78 and it didn't have dolby. Oh well. As for "The Wall" tape and the missing highs, it's possible it was the victim of "sunstroke." (left in a hot car!) That was a problem, but over time magnetic tape will lose its fidelity if not kept under the right conditions. Your other copy must have been well preserved!

Michael Boyce

The Reel To Reel also had the mixing of sequence. Especially the twofer packages.

backbaconnbeer

Since you've covered reel to reel, cassette and 8 track I hope you also do one on the 4 track tapes.which died out by the late 60's/early 70's

Parlogram

2y↑1

I will if/when I find some.

Ian Mansfield

I am an audiophile and I have never heard an 8 track compared to a reel to reel or cassette. When I got into up market hi-fi in the late 80s, tape cassettes were generally considered as lower quality than vinyl, but you could get very expensive and high end players from Japan. I had an Aiwa deck which produced great quality recordings from my Linn/Naim system for the car.
Tape actually has some built in advantages over vinyl that I won't go into here (a spiral groove has inherent mechanical issues which was a compromise when records were first invented) and the wider tapes of 8 tracks and reel to reel were considered to reproduce better quality sound than cassettes (higher speed tape meant less background noise as I recall, so early cassettes had a disadvantage here).
The reviews you read and problems you mentioned with 8 track may be attributed to poor quality equipment, although I agree with you that the design itself has some flaws too - not to mention the tape wearing out/stretching etc. Toshiba were known for producing lower priced equipment (at least in the UK) so the frequency response on the player you bought may be down to the budget limitation in production of the player.
Fascinating video though, I'm gonna watch your other ones about reel to reel and cassette now. It's a pleasant trip down memory - I'm all about convenience now, but I remember seeing all these albums in the shops in their various formats, and I often wondered about the difference in the packaging and how one missed out if the album cover was great but shrunk to a tiny size.

Barry Murphy

Hi Andrew! I've just been watching an old Oddity Archive video (Episode 132) in which Ben explores the short-lived Playtape format, a portable tape player from 1966 which played two and four track tapes. Among the titles shown is Playtape No 0583, a Beatles four track Yesterday and Today EP (approx 3.06 mins in). Have you ever seen any seen any these out in the wild & are they worth anything? Maybe a candidate for a future video.

LarryInc64

I'm too young for 8tracks to have been a common thing in my life, but I found my mom's old Yesterday and Today tape.
It was unexpected to hear Day Tripper fade out and in during the solo part lol.

That AMC Guy

3y↑2

I've had 8-tracks all my life. Around the turn of the century, I began collecting Quad tapes as well. The first time I moved, I probably took over 1,000 cartridges to the dump - but they were mostly garbage anyway. I kept all my good stuff. Today, I've over 600 Quadraphonic tapes and at least as many stereo tapes. And several large Tupperware bins full of tapes for trading, etc.

Paul S

Have you digitized any of the quad tapes?

SongwriterJJ

From what I remember, Cloud Nine is the last Beatles-related 8-track ever released.

Max Meister

For me, the cartridge format has MYSTERY written all over it. I've never ever come across one ANYWHERE and didn't even know for real what they looked like until I've watched this video, so thank you 😄
Still it's puzzling! These days well assorted flea markets for example offer any device from any period over the last 100 years - but no 8-track. In my hometown there is a first and second (although predominantly second) hand store which aside from vinyl has anything from shellack to Gameboy - but again no 8-track! To me it kinda feels like they never existed for real but merely in the legends...

PeaceArch WA

What part of the world do you reside in? The 8-track cartridge playback system was very common in North America for a brief period of years: starting in 1965, the format catapulted in consumer sales until its peak in 1974. At that time, the compact cassette became a huge competitor to the 8-track in the car audio field. 8-track sales plummeted from 1975 until basically collapsing in 1981 (except for record club editions made as late as 1989). Apparently 8-track had some market share in the UK but very little in most of Europe.

Max Meister

@PeaceArch WA You name it at the tail end of your comment 😉 in my home country, Germany, the compact cassette - MusiCassette as it was called with us - seems never to have had to fight any competition battle with the 8 track. From as far back as I can say for sure for having seen the insides of record shops, which is '77 or so, 8 track didn't exist in Krautland. To this day not on one flea market I've ever attended, and I've done many many MANY, did I stumble across used 8 tracks or their players. The same goes for modest sized fairs or swap meetings, hell, even record shops of these very days, which are a melange of brand new and used stuff, don't have any of it. None of my - quite many - older siblings or cousins ever had some. One had a shamrock tape and player, but none had 8 tracks. Neighbourhood, school people - nothing. I tell you, the bloody thing was downright non-existant.

PeaceArch WA

@Max Meister Very interesting indeed. In that pre-globalization era, record companies manufactured most of their software (LPs, tapes) domestically even for foreign recordings. In the USA, many Deutsche Grammophon 8-tracks were released, at least one of these I recall was marked "Made in Germany". Ultimately, German record companies simply didn't experience any demand as 8-track players must have been extraordinarily scarce. One might have expected to at least find a few 8-tracks used in American soldiers' personal cars near the various American and NATO bases on West German soil.

Max Meister

@PeaceArch WA You would think so, but even among contacts made with GIs - for example, via Deutsch-Amerikanisches Freundschaftsfest (friendship fun fair) - zero...

Bob's Old Records

I still have one Beatles 8 track. It's the Hey Jude album. I had Yellow Submarine and Sgt. Pepper .
Some American copies of Pepper had a strange edit at the end to take up space. They should have used the side B runout silliness

vacation time

Love you are covering all the formats. so little on these lesser known and collected formats online.
Please do a video on books about Beatles pressings and collectibles. I have some but I'm always curious about more of them, what is worth getting and not. I've managed to get certain countries books on pressings, but its something I'm always curious about. There is a lot of info hidden in these often rare books. Also best sites you recommend, I can think of the best ones for where I live, but other countries I have no idea, often this stuff doesn't jump out immediately in the search engine and its forum links that give addresses. Seems like a topic that wouldn't be too hard to knock out and useful for the viewers. Thanks.

Parlogram

Good suggestion.

Barry Steinhart

I remember I had The Beatles 'white album' 8trk carts. My father used to hijack me during the summer (schools out) to travel with him while he did service calls. He drove a big Cadillac with a 4 front/rear sp system that sounded quite good...considering it was 8 trk. The 2 carts came in a black, not white, single slip case with Beatles embossed onto it. I also had The Monkees 'Headquarters', Cream 'Goodbye Cream' and Janis Joplin and Big Brother 'Cheap Thrills'. I played them to death. If not for those carts keeping my mind occupied, I would have surely slit my wrists.

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