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Little Red
I was going to say something similar. I read a lot of stories, hundreds of short books a month, etc. Comics and video games as well. I even have an extremely vivid imagination and never imagined myself as black until I was in my twenties. Not even on purpose, just, I didn't realise black people could be protagonists...
It also seems like a lot of black girls were sexualised growing up but I was always treated like a straight up monster. Even from when I was a very young child I had people try to kill me (which happened several times until I was a teen) for being a 'worthless peice of garbage who needs to stop breathing,' and I just assumed that they were right because I had no evidence to the contrary. I literally and actually believed every breath I took could have been given to someone better and it traumatised me intensely. I had nothing to explain to me what racism was or that black people are valid. Especially because I went to schools mostly full of white (boy) kids who were also gamers and... Well if you're a gamer, you know what that was like.
It took WELL into adulthood for me to realise 'actually those people were insane trying to kill a child for being black' (I also hadn't put together that was the reason until adulthood. Phrases like "waste of oxygen" and "disgusting ape" etc hadn't been connected to those concepts for me so I thought I, uniquely, was a gross beast. I imagined a dark miasma around myself causing people to hate me even before I spoke to them and I couldn't figure out what it was, just that it was me.)
In the past few years I've had a lot of people apologise for some of the, frankly, insane stuff they've said. "I'd never date a black girl because you all have disgusting [body parts]" or being told when I did try to have sex pretty young that no one is into black girls, or in college, "why would I want to be with someone like you when there's a pretty white girl somewhere who's just as smart" etc etc. One of my white male friends straight up calling me 'n* lips' right before big lips became a great thing on not-black women. Phew.
I still honestly don't view myself as someone who's going to go on a date or experience love but I've moved past that and realised that I everyone is valid either way and now I just try my hardest to help other little kids (I used to teach computer science classes to middle school PoC girls, for example.)
I guess I just say all that to say that I'm so glad things are changing and I desperately wish that anyone who is going through what I went through is able to see through the hatred because they'll have examples of black excellence.
B. Ballooon
@benita Feel free to just read the TLDR, but I would ask that you do try to read the whole argument as it explains where I get many of my views about this situation on. This subject is extremely complex, and I refuse to simplify it too much because I think that would take away from the nuances of this situation. I'm against all racism, no matter what skin color they have.
I'm talking about the United States, not the world. Also, white people are not a global minority, we were talking about skin tone, and as for skin tone, the populations are pretty similar. Over a billion light-skinned people of European descent in the Americas, 700 Million in Europe, And well over a billion of Light-Skinned Central Asians, Northern South Asians, and especially East Asians, which have huge populations in the Northern lighter skinned areas (Depending on where you draw the lines, which by the way, are subjective). Yes there are lots of darker-skinned people in the Americas too, but overall it's a minority, and within the United States, it's around 13% African Americans, with most other dark skin populations coming from deep central America or from Southern India. Most Latin Americans are tilted more towards Latin than Indigenous in terms of ancestry, hence the name, so on average they are lighter than darker. Don't get me wrong, there still is a larger % than lets say the United States/Canada or parts of Europe. If you're allowed to group the extremely diverse group of people into one "Colored group", I can group all light-skinned people into the "White group". Which in my opinion, is a weird way of looking at it.
It's like you see the whole world as White people Vs. People of Color. When in reality history, migration patterns, linguistics, and genetics all point to the fact that ethnicities have been fighting and abusing each other for centuries within their own continents and outside. The worst ethnic conflicts haven't been white people abuses Africans, or Arabs abusing Africans, or East Asians abusing all Eurasians (See Mongol Empire). Nope, it was always neighbors vs. neighbors. French vs. English. It was even worse recently in the Congo Wars of Africa, that was a real ethnic slaughter, and it was all Africans doing it to each other. But, inter-continental conflicts did happen, like the Arab conquests of North Africa and the Levant, the Turkish Conquest of Asia Minor (Mostly populated by European Greeks and Hittites). These conflicts always had slavery as a part of them, which meant ethnic inequalities were often there too, sometimes ethnic cleansings (You ever notice not many Greeks live in Modern Turkey). It wasn't until very recently that the nations that are mostly populated by "white" people as you call us, which to me is still weird, but it was mostly Western and European nations that started the fight against racial inequality and slavery. Most of Africa still has slavery, it was America and Europe that led the charge against racial inequality, so please, stop seeing White people as the pure baddies, we're no different than any other race. Our ancestors just happened to invent some pretty Overpowered inventions like the Caravel (Awesome boat), Enlightenment (Awesome Ideas), and Industrialization (Factories and Economies go Brrrrrrr). Point is, humans are evil, and all races and ethnicities have honestly always fought to the best of their geo-political abilities. It just seems like the world's been against darker-skinned people because the geo-political positions of people living near and south of the equator have historically been bad. The Americas were too far away from any trading routes. The Aboriginals had similar issues, so did much of Africa due to the Sahara desert. No trade from Eurasian Superhighways, no civilization spread due to the Sahara. On top of all these problems, areas with darker skinned people honestly just had horrible climates. Way too many deserts and jungles in Africa, not enough farmland. Same applies to SouthEast Asia and parts of the Mid-East. However the Mid-East actually created some pretty awesome (and brutal) empires too because there were very resource rich areas. But remember, these empires were actually more enslaving than all the Atlantic Slave Trade put together. Singular Caliphates, Sultanates, and Ottoman Empires were capable of far more enslavement than the divided European empires. Because of these realities, Empires ranging from Europe to the Mid-East to India have long abused Africa, and today, China is now beginning their abuse. Sorry for the history lesson, but I find it necessary to explain my view of race. I don't look at it through the "this race or group of races is a victim and the other is bad" lens, I see it as everybody tried their best, and now just need to work towards making the best lives for everybody without worrying about past grudges, don't forget the past, but recognize that it was a different world, a dog eat dog world where people were separated by a lack of technology we can't even imagine. It took a while for the necessary moral/societal advancements to be made, by the way, mostly by Brits, French, German, American, and Russian thinkers, who rushed to find ways to end human suffering throughout the 19th and 20th centuries. I'm sure Africa looked like another planet to some Mid-Eastern and European conquerors. Vice versa too.
Ok, back to the numbers and why I think it's racist. Most people here are claiming that not getting enough representation for your population size is a form of racism. But the reality is, there are more African American actors than 13%, despite African Americans only being 13% of the nation. This is why I say it's an Overrepresentation, the exact accusation this video is making of white people, but that's false statistically. Now, personally, as long as it's not a ridiculous overrepresentation, I don't mind. But when I see videos like this complaining about not enough representation, or comments talking about how Hollywood is dominated by Lighter-Skinned people, I can't help but notice the hypocrisy. Because in reality, African Americans have more actors per capita than they do population size per capita. There's also a large amount of other dark-skinned ethnicities that are very famous and have significant celebrity populations of. From darker Latin Americans to Southern Indians, South-East Asians, and some Mid-Easterners, there's definitely more than enough representation of Darker-skinned people. And remember, it's all a spectrum, there is no set line for dark-skin or light-skin, it's all opinionated. Many South Asians are more similar culturally to people of European descent than people of African descent, yet you would presume them to be apart of "People of Color". But no matter how you categorize someone as dark-skinned or light-skinned, in the US there seems to definitely be more representation per capita of all races except those of European descent. This is due to the backlash of people like you who think Hollywood is still in the 1960s and still only hires white people. But it's not the 1960s, hasn't been for a while, so when you keep pushing for more "Equality", you're actually making it so people of European descent are now Underrepresented in Hollywood. If you look up the stats, it's probably true, as I doubt 60-75% of Actors are Light skinned, while 60-75% of the American population most definitely is. 60% are non-Latin (So basically Germano-Celts with some Nordic/Latin/Slavic sprinkled in), so even if for some odd reason you don't count light-skinned Latin Americans as light-skinned, people of European descent are still having less representation per capita than "colored" races as you put it.
TLDR: Sorry for the long paragraphs, but the reality is this subject is beyond complex. I'll try to skim it down real fast. Basically, per capita darker-skinned people actually get more representation in Hollywood than lighter-skinned people, feel free to look it up. This is mostly due to a backlash of people who think we still live in the 60s, but don't look at the stats or understand how per capita works. It gets racist when it gets to a point where because of all this backlash, companies are specifically turning down people of European descent and increasingly making it so lighter-skinned ethnicities have smaller % of jobs in the industry per capita. (Not necessarily just Europeans, remember huge parts of Asia are light-skinned). That would be racist. I'm not saying we're there yet, but by continuing to claim that we need to flood Hollywood with more darker-skinned actors, you're going to be treating those with lighter-skinned unfairly. The most fair way to do it would just be to hire based on skills, and because all races are equal, eventually you should have perfect representation per capita for each ethnicity. Instead of trying to make it exactly 50% light-skinned and exactly 50% dark-skinned, which doesn't make sense in a nation where 75% of the population identifies as white. Also, remember, I don't really agree with this whole light vs. dark thing. It's far more spectrum based than that, and far more complicated. It's not people of color vs. white people. It's always been a myriad of races/ethnicities just trying to survive in this crazy world. That's what history and anthropology and genetics show us.
Hermione Wilson
As a shy, bookish young black girl I consumed a lot of stories that featured white girls having adventures, defying gender stereotypes, discovering magic and falling in love. I absorbed those stories and came to see those characters as my closest friends, my heroes, but I also absorbed some very ugly ideas about myself at the same time. They manifested themselves in the way I thought about my kinky hair, my body, and my worthiness as an object of romantic love, things that I am still working through in my 30s. I literally had this image of myself as a big, awkward black beast that was totally divorced from the reality I see looking back at pictures of myself from that time. I didn't discover stories that centred black girls as heroines and romantic leads until much later on. When I read those stories now, I feel really sad for the child I was who never got to have that experience.
Mouse M
I'm of Mexican descent had had the same views about myself until I was 13. My sister looks and can pass as white. I was always so envious of her and thought she was so much more pretty than me. It didn't take me long to realize that these notions were terrible for my self esteem and I learn to embrace my own beauty. I learned right way that influence from media, books, and magazines didn't help. And since then I've always had a critical eye about what I let influence my self esteem.
Maayan Abutbul
@witch, please well it's not just her it's also other black characters that I could use some help with. I try to educate myself from black people point of view, which makes it sort of hard and easy because there are a lot pov's and experiences, no race is a monolith. I can do it on my own of course, I just think it's right to consult with other people and check myself, otherwise it's quite ignorant and pretentious to include a culture I'm not from. At the end of the day my character has a name and a personality of her own and the blackness is not the main focus, just suplementary element. So it's not that big, but it's still important.
witch, please
@Maayan Abutbul Your character is not Black she is biracial. If you want a truly Black character then write a Black character . I do not identify with half white women, most BW cannot see ourselves in the Zendayas of the world.
Hermione Wilson
@Little Red I'm so sorry that happened to you. That is seriously messed up. I hope you are in a better place now in terms of your self image. Despite what society has told you, you are worthy of love. We are worthy of love.
Little Red
I was going to say something similar. I read a lot of stories, hundreds of short books a month, etc. Comics and video games as well. I even have an extremely vivid imagination and never imagined myself as black until I was in my twenties. Not even on purpose, just, I didn't realise black people could be protagonists...
It also seems like a lot of black girls were sexualised growing up but I was always treated like a straight up monster. Even from when I was a very young child I had people try to kill me (which happened several times until I was a teen) for being a 'worthless peice of garbage who needs to stop breathing,' and I just assumed that they were right because I had no evidence to the contrary. I literally and actually believed every breath I took could have been given to someone better and it traumatised me intensely. I had nothing to explain to me what racism was or that black people are valid. Especially because I went to schools mostly full of white (boy) kids who were also gamers and... Well if you're a gamer, you know what that was like.
It took WELL into adulthood for me to realise 'actually those people were insane trying to kill a child for being black' (I also hadn't put together that was the reason until adulthood. Phrases like "waste of oxygen" and "disgusting ape" etc hadn't been connected to those concepts for me so I thought I, uniquely, was a gross beast. I imagined a dark miasma around myself causing people to hate me even before I spoke to them and I couldn't figure out what it was, just that it was me.)
In the past few years I've had a lot of people apologise for some of the, frankly, insane stuff they've said. "I'd never date a black girl because you all have disgusting [body parts]" or being told when I did try to have sex pretty young that no one is into black girls, or in college, "why would I want to be with someone like you when there's a pretty white girl somewhere who's just as smart" etc etc. One of my white male friends straight up calling me 'n* lips' right before big lips became a great thing on not-black women. Phew.
I still honestly don't view myself as someone who's going to go on a date or experience love but I've moved past that and realised that I everyone is valid either way and now I just try my hardest to help other little kids (I used to teach computer science classes to middle school PoC girls, for example.)
I guess I just say all that to say that I'm so glad things are changing and I desperately wish that anyone who is going through what I went through is able to see through the hatred because they'll have examples of black excellence.
Sparkling daisy
As a black little girl I was always treated was such harshness by my parents and by my teachers. I couldn't be talkative like my white peers, if I was I would get punished and an example would be made out of me. So, I became silent in fear of being punished for the 100th time. Other girls who were white would make fun of me and mock me. When I told the teachers that they were bullying me they saw it as me being a complainer and I would get scolded even though I was the victim of bullying.
My problems are always being brushed under the rug as if it's nothing. I would be told by my black father that my problems and hardships wouldnt nearly as bad as his. And he invalidates my experiences.
My father would tell me I needed to be more soft and nurturing so that a man would consider me marriage material. That I need to be more agreeable and not disagree with others. That I shouldnt have an opinion.
Everyone in my family always comes to me with their problems and dumping everything on me. Or if something happened that they didnt like i was the one they blamed. I was and am an easy target for them. But, if I want to discuss how much they've abused me mentally, emotionally, and verbally they dont want to take responsibility. They say that I made them treat me with such disdain and disrespect. My family says if I didnt do this or that then they wouldnt have cursed me out and talk shit about me.
Because I'm a black woman I'm just supposed to talk the abuse with a smile on my face and no complaints.
It's fucked up.
Dedeshika Alabi-Mensah
@Sparkling daisy Girl I’m so sorry you go though that. One day soon it will get better and you won’t have to hear that anymore. 😭❤️
socialdeviant13
@Sparkling daisy I went through similar, and at 31, I was homeless, separated from my spouse, and they caused me to almost lose my kids. I cut them out of my life. This is my first holiday season without dreading going to see them. This is my first holiday season where my found family will gather instead. Things have gotten better for me. As much as it sucks now, when you CAN get away, it WILL get better.
Jae
I am so sorry that you had to experience those things, especially from those who were suppose to love you the most. I hope that you are able to heal and have an amazing happy life.