Allan is a Pittsburgh,Pa. based band born from the idea, by four musicians,… Read Full Bio ↴Allan is a Pittsburgh,Pa. based band born from the idea, by four musicians, that music should have fewer limitations and bounderies than is often the case. After a few years with other bands, the members of Allan decided to join together to express the concept that their music would show a strong effort to explore song structure, dynamics, and an attempt at a musical balance between the visceral and the cerebral. Using a heavy music foundation, they liken what they create to applying colors and textures to a canvas of intensity and explosiveness.

Members:

Lee Aaron Fisher - Drums

Bobby Spell - Bass

Matt Sabbath - Guitar

Scott Evans - Vocals

Brian Snyder - Guitar

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Allan Lyrics

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I am a cancer in the meat of life
Kill me or cure me please
Don't got to tell me about struggle and strife
Sometimes it's killing me

Sometimes you know, it starts to seem
I'm chasing someone else's dream
What the hell do I know, anyway...

Hey buddy, it's just rock and roll
It's something that you need
Slave to Glory, you've been bought and sold
Sometimes you got to bleed

You can't tell me, you don't need a vice
You're easy 1-2-3
Spank the monkey or your lovely wife
Whatever sets you free

The sadist in you, seems to feed my pain
But that's alright with me

Hugging the Johnny, don't seem so great
When you're begging on your knees

Overall Meaning

In the song "Slave" by Allan, the lyrics convey a sense of frustration and conflict with one's own existence. The first verse, "I am a cancer in the meat of life, Kill me or cure me please, Don't got to tell me about struggle and strife, Sometimes it's killing me," suggests a feeling of being overwhelmed by life's challenges. The singer may feel like a burden or a problem, longing for either a resolution to their struggles or an escape from their pain.

The second verse reflects a sense of disconnection and disillusionment. The line "Sometimes you know, it starts to seem, I'm chasing someone else's dream, What the hell do I know, anyway..." indicates a feeling of being lost or uncertain about one's purpose or aspirations. The singer may feel like they are living a life that doesn't align with their true desires or values, leading to a sense of confusion and questioning.

In the chorus, the lyrics "Hey buddy, it's just rock and roll, It's something that you need, Slave to Glory, you've been bought and sold, Sometimes you got to bleed" suggest a commentary on the music industry or society's expectations. The singer acknowledges the allure and importance of rock and roll as an escape or outlet but also recognizes the sacrifices and compromises that come with it. They may feel pressure to conform to certain standards or expectations in order to attain success or fulfillment, resulting in a loss of personal freedom or autonomy.

The final verse explores the idea of seeking pleasure or release through vices or intimate relationships. The line "You can't tell me, you don't need a vice, You're easy 1-2-3" implies that everyone has their own ways of finding escape or satisfaction. The mention of "Spank the monkey or your lovely wife, Whatever sets you free" suggests that individuals seek different outlets for their desires, whether it be through self-gratification or relationships. However, the singer also highlights the potential consequences of relying on these escapes, such as the loss of self-esteem or dignity.

Overall, "Slave" by Allan paints a picture of struggle, disillusionment, and the search for personal freedom and fulfillment. The lyrics expose the various ways people may cope with the challenges of life while acknowledging the potential pitfalls and sacrifices along the way.

Line by Line Meaning

I am a cancer in the meat of life
I feel like a destructive force within the essence of existence

Kill me or cure me please
Please provide either liberation or remedy from my suffering

Don't got to tell me about struggle and strife
No need to explain the hardships and conflicts to me

Sometimes it's killing me
Occasionally, it feels immensely overwhelming and emotionally draining

Sometimes you know, it starts to seem
At times, it appears that

I'm chasing someone else's dream
I am relentlessly pursuing another person's aspirations

What the hell do I know, anyway...
In any case, what knowledge or understanding do I truly possess?

Hey buddy, it's just rock and roll
Hey friend, it is simply the essence of music and rebellion

It's something that you need
It is something that you profoundly require

Slave to Glory, you've been bought and sold
Being enslaved by the pursuit of honor and success, you have been manipulated and controlled

Sometimes you got to bleed
Occasionally, one must undergo physical or emotional pain

You can't tell me, you don't need a vice
You cannot deny that you require an indulgence or an outlet

You're easy 1-2-3
You're straightforward and predictable

Spank the monkey or your lovely wife
Engage in self-pleasure or intimate relations with your significant other

Whatever sets you free
Whatever liberates and grants you personal freedom

The sadist in you, seems to feed my pain
The part of you that derives pleasure from causing others suffering appears to amplify my own anguish

But that's alright with me
Nevertheless, I am content with this situation

Hugging the Johnny, don't seem so great
Embracing hedonistic desires and indulgences no longer appear as appealing

When you're begging on your knees
When you are desperately pleading and subservient

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Written by: David Cragg

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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

@godwinclaassen8425

19w↑1

Nothing is complicated- we just have to wait upon the LORD JESUS CHRIST and you will be provided with a true and prefect answer which only The Holy Spirit can answer.

Your thoughts are not mine thoughts ..
Isaiah 55:8-9 NIV - “For my thoughts are not your

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD. “As the heavens are higher

We are fallen and can be complite idiots in our fallen barbaric way .

Br Godwin

@branver1172

19w↑5

God does condemn these things.

The Bible is one story. God set ups His ideal in the Garden of Eden. People ruled over animals, not other people. He then made laws in the OT which took peoples hardened, sinful hearts into account. Then in the NT he reiterates much of the garden ideal.

When God set up a civil law for Isreal in Canaan, He sometimes made laws that were not the ideal. They were for people’s hardness of heart.

For example, Jesus said Moses gave certificates of divorce for people’s harness of heart, but it wasn’t the ideal. I believe it polygamy and slavery fit in this category.

They were not the ideal set up in the garden and they are later censured in the New Testament when the Holy Spirit comes in and softens our hard hearts. When Gid gives a new heaven and a new earth and our hearts are perfect we will no longer need laws about slavery, for example, because it just won’t exist.

@jaflenbond7854

19w

WORSHIPPERS of SATAN the DEVIL BRING and CAUSE the SUFFERINGS, GRIEFS, PAINS, SICKNESS, and DEATHS of MANKIND

All arrogant, cruel, and merciless worshippers of Satan the Devil
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to -
1. mock and insult the Creator as unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God
2. reject Jesus Christ's Biblical authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
and believe instead the lies, falsehoods, and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines of the ANTI-CHRISTS about "Armageddon", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
are
obviously the liars, ungrateful, unkind, offensive and deceitful persons on earth
who
don't respect and value the lives and dignities of their co-human beings... shameless, remorseless, not bothered at all and just don't care even if their Satanic arrogance, hatred, lies, deceptions, cruelties, insulting and hurtful words and acts, ungratefulness, and hypocrisies
bring and cause the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their co-human beings including that of their own families and neighbors.

ATHEISM, EVOLUTIONISM, SATANISM, and RELIGIOUS FANATICISM BRING and CAUSE the DISHONOR, DOWNFALL and ETERNAL DEATHS of MANKIND

Atheists, Evolutionists, Satanists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world
who don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of their own families and neighbors
obviously
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence too.... remorseless, not bothered at all and just don't care even if their Satanic arrogance, hatred, mockeries, opposition, and defiance of the Creator's Sovereignty and his Christ's authority and teachings
bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.

LOVING, KIND, and RESPECTFUL WORSHIPPERS of the CREATOR WILL LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER

Jesus Christ KNOWS
that all persons on earth who willingly submit to his authority and put their faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26
will
definitely be favored and honored by the loving, kind, and merciful Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, perverts, deceivers, traitors, and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4, 8.

The Creator KNOWS
that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 and 9: 5, 6
but
he will not let his loving, kind, and respectful worshippers to remain as worthless dusts forever,
instead,
in the right and proper time and as written in John 11: 25, 26,
he will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT back to life all his worshippers who died recently and even thousands of years ago like Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Jacob, Moses, King David, Jesus Christ's followers, and many others
so
they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

@jaflenbond7854

19w

@adrianalexander3262

19w↑8

So much of this just doesn’t make sense.

Firstly, you admit that slavery was allowed in the Old Testament. Not indentured servitude, but slavery when you conquered a group in war. Then you go on to say that it is a GOOD thing, an act of mercy, to take the women into society and take slaves, granted that the Israelites didn’t kill everyone outright.

You say there are laws that address certain problems and this doesn’t mean God condones these actions but makes a law to limit or address these actions. Therefore, just because there are regulations to slavery, doesn’t mean God condones slavery, just like there are laws for beastiality. What is the law against beastiality? It’s death. Why didn’t God regulate beastiality? Why not make it so you can have sex with non-Hebrew animals rather than Hebrew animals? What about certain animals you can and some you can’t? Because beastiality no matter what is wrong.

What if we went to war in the Middle East and took them as property? Maybe take their wives so at least they will be taken good care of after we killed their husbands?

I understand the Old Testament was a different time, but then the Bible cannot be used as a mode of morality if it changes with the times. If we would not do what the Bible outlines today, then it is not objectively moral.

@Servant44

19w

🙏

We must go and preach [repentance] And [remission of sins] Among All nations

and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Luke 24:47 KJV

- Believe [for your faith will save you]

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for [if ye believe not] that I am he, ye shall [die in your sins.]

John 8:24 KJV

- To give knowledge of salvation [by the remission of "our" sins]

To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the [remission of their sins,]

Luke 1:77 KJV

- Receive [remission of sins] when we are converted

To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name [whosoever believeth] [in him] shall [receive] [remission of sins.]

Acts 10:43 KJV

- Confession of sin [confess your sins, everyday]

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to [forgive us our sins,] and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 1:9 KJV

- [Remission of sins] from water baptism

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be [baptized] every one of you in the [name of Jesus Christ] for the [remission of sins,] and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:38 KJV

- Have charity [to have compassion]

And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall [cover the multitude of sins.]

1 Peter 4:8 KJV

- Love [to love thy neighbor as thyself]

Hatred stirreth up strifes: but [love covereth all sins.]
Proverbs 10:12 KJV

- Convert sinner from his error of sin [convince someone of their error, like we were convinced]

Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall [hide a multitude of sins.]

James 5:20 KJV

- Endure [predestined are those that endure until the end and do not die in sin]

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall [endure unto the end,] the same [shall be saved.]

Mark 13:13 KJV

- Sincere turn from practice of sin [or All will likewise perish]

I tell you, Nay: but, [except ye repent,] ye shall [all likewise perish.]

Luke 13:3 KJV

@macmac1022

19w

Here you want to answer some questions?

People of all kinds please state if you are christian or muslim, atheists, agnostics or any combination of those and then if willing participate in the test. As well, looking for 5 good moral theist questions for atheists/agnostics.

#1 You see a child drowning in a shallow pool and notice a person just watching that is able to save the child with no risk to themselves but is not, is that persons non action moral?
#2 If you go to save the child, the man tells you to stop as he was told it was for the greater good, but he does not know what that is, do you continue to save the child?
#3 Is it an act of justice to punish innocent people for the crimes of others?
#4 If you were able to stop it and knew a person was about to grape a child would you stop it?
#5 Would you consider a parent who put their kids in a room with a poison fruit and told the kids not to eat it but then also put the best con artist in the room with the children knowing the con artist will get the kids to eat the fruit and the parent does nothing to stop it a good parent?

interesting enough, atheists and agnostics can answer these questions nearly 100% of the time and find them easy. Christians are less then 18% at answering them and muslims less then 7%.
So who understand morality better, people that can answer simple moral questions or people that cant?

@whatshatnin4572

18w↑2

@@mikes5079 No sir. Let's try to be intellectually honest as possible. You mentioned employees. The Canaanites were not employees. They were slaves

Now you telling me why Bible God justified slavery. I'm not asking you for an excuse to justify the Canaanite being enslaved. I'm just showing you where Bible God justified slavery

And you are giving me a situation that justified slavery after the fact. But Canaan was slated to be a slave PRIOR before being born. So the Canaanites were cursed into slavery before they were ever sacrificing babies

And that is a lane excuse. If a man was upstairs killing kids, the police would not come and kill the man and the surviving kids. The police would come to save the kids. Not enslave them.

You talked about Egytp enslaving the Hebrews and why we dont talk about that. One reason I dont talk about it is because it was not approved by Bible God like the enslavement of the Canaanites.

So I think we can conclude that Bible God DOES condone slavery. .

@laquan3661

19w

Can't steal a slave but can buy one as long as they agree to sell themselves, must mean that slavery was a business deal, not forced upon anyone.

Exodus 21:16, “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.

Leviticus 25:44-46, "You may treat them as your property, passing them on to
your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat
them as slaves, but you must never treat your fellow
lsraelites this way."

Leviticus 25:39-40, "If one of your fellow Israelites falls into poverty and is
forced to sell himself to you, do not treat him as a slave.
Treat him instead as a hired worker or as a temporary
resident who lives with you, and he will serve you only
until the Year of Jubilee.

@freedomtracksrecords4452

15w

@@AtheismActually Jesus is clearly against slavery, war and other violence, as Revelation clearly says this (when the Bible says, "Anyone who has an ear, let them hear", what follows is of utmost importance):

"If anyone has an ear, let him hear. They who lead into captivity shall go into captivity; they who kill with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the endurance and the faith of the saints."

If you read the passage you are referring to in context, Jesus says two swords are "sufficient" for an entire group of people. Jesus was cautiously allowing for self-defense, which is not the same as war. War involves group-think, peer pressure and obedience from the top down. War is always about taking wealth or protecting wealth or as quite often the case, both.

The Crusades for example, were not religious wars; they were fought over land, a form of wealth, the grand prize being Constantinople. Self-defense is protecting one's physical self. Self-defense is not protecting property or any other form of wealth, as the life of a person is far more valuable than property, regardless of what European or American capitalists think.

Jesus is a whole lot smarter and wiser than you, me or anyone else. May as well get used to it, because he sees right through your bullshit.

@jaflenbond7854

19w

The TRUTH remains the same..

The Satanic arrogance and foolishness of arrogant, cruel, and merciless Atheists, Evolutionists, Satanists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Catholics, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world
in raising, glorifying, and exalting themselves as greater, powerful, intelligent, glorious, higher and superior than the Creator and his Christ
will definitely bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever
while
the submissiveness of loving, kind, and respectful persons to the authority of Jesus Christ and obedience to his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
will
definitely bring them honor and the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness and death on a safe and peaceful earth without arrogant, cruel, and merciless persons, without liars, deceivers, slanderers, hypocrites, traitors, and murderers.

Loving, kind, and respectful worshippers of the Creator will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths
but
not worthless dusts forever,
instead,
in the Creator's right and proper time,
worshippers of the Creator who died recently and even thousands of years ago like Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Jacob, Moses, King David, Jesus Christ's followers, and many others
will all be RESURRECTED back to life by Jesus Christ so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist forever on a safe and peaceful earth
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.

All comments from YouTube:

@cjohnson2159

19w↑55

Allen, this is a very difficult conversation to have, but you really did a great job explaining the important differences! I’m not sure how the people who called themselves Christians (in America) didn’t understand how Biblical slavery was to be. And also how indentured servants were to be treated also. Was it a case of bad exegesis or purposeful eisegesis? 🙏🏾

@philw9787

19w↑1

Not difficult, lol

@horridhenry9920

19w↑2

Did you miss the part in Leviticus where the Israelites were able to buy slaves from the nations around them and they would be property for life? People in America understood the bible very well, it allowed slavery.

@cjohnson2159

19w↑3

@@horridhenry9920 no worries, @horridhenry9920, I’m praying for you also! 🙏🏾

@godwinclaassen8425

19w↑1

@camillewilliams3185

19w↑10

I think the important thing to note is that the laws in Deuteronomy and Exedus were written to and for the Israelites.

So I think it's ill-advised to transpose that to a Euro-centric slavery. If the Europeans followed what the Bible teaches they'd have never even allowed the transatlantic slave trade.

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@ravenregards

19w↑27

I like how you pull from all parts of the Bible so things can be put in perspective. People often (including religious people) preach verses out of context. You have shown that the whole Bible is our context. Really great video. Appreciate your sound and balanced teachings.

@Real.O.T

19w↑48

Very good topic. Sadly most people will not want to accept it. I hope this video gets around and people listen

@jamesbass6283

19w

accepting some one killing you then take your wife then you say thank you sir you are very Generous?

@Real.O.T

19w↑6

@@jamesbass6283you obviously didn’t watch the video

@danielfortonforton223

19w↑2

Excellent video Allen. I tried to explain this to an atheist recently who had convinced himself that the Bible condoned slavery(among other things, ) but he refused to accept it. I pretty much told him the same thing you said and covered in your video but he continued to say I hadn't answered his question and the Bible does condone slavery even though I plainly showed himhow it doesn't he still refused to accept it. You can't reason with a closed mind. I finally just prayed for him and moved on

@danielfortonforton223

19w

Poor guy he was so decieved and lost

@Electropterodactyl

19w↑9

ive struggled with this for so long, so thank you for explaining it! i still have some questions, but this has helped so much :) God bless

@i.m.moreau8765

19w↑16

My brother hit me with this when i was a baby Christian. I didn’t handle the conversation well. Now that I’m more mature, this is the answer I’ve learned but it hasn’t come up again in conversation

@miso.1993

19w↑39

extremely well thought out answer. slavery has always existed and will always exist as a result of the human condition, unfortunately, and in the Bible, its contextualized as a product of the times
and THIS slavery (and indentured servitude) was not the same as the chattel slavery Black people were subjected to, very important, and sadly this is a biiiig reason many Black folks turn away from Christ, and the Church because of this.

...as a Black woman though, ill admit it does make me wonder why my ancestors had to suffer so much...thank you so much for this and for expounding!

@jamesgorham7125

19w↑12

Well said Sister, just keep walking by Faith and trust in Jesus, because we are free because of Jesus. We are children of the Kingdom of God, Amen Amen Amen 😊😊

@run2cat4run

19w

Didn’t the blacks slaves also had whippings, torture, mutilation, imprisonment, and being sold away from the plantation and women were by their masters

@tinaf600

19w↑7

I believe we suffered so much because of sin. God allowed it for whatever reason. Most likely we were living in sin. Or even because we were the weaker tribe. Stronger tribes conquer weaker tribes all the time. Then we were sold off to Europeans and Arabs, the muslims. At the end of the day it is what it is. It exposes the sin of man at the end of the day. We live in a fallen world and never forget that. Thank God none of us today had to deal with what our ancestors had to deal with. Glory to God for freedom. Especially freedom in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

@horridhenry9920

19w

You appear not to have understood Leviticus 25:44-46 it was identical to chattel slavery.

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w↑3

@@tinaf600but why black people have to suffer the most of all races tho??? We went through far worse than hispanic and white people ever had are we some kind of special people bcus others why would Satan hate us so much it's far about us blacks than we know of ourselves we have to be something more to God since we have to suffer so much I suffer more than the white and mexican friends I had so It has to be a meaning g and why I get much more spiritual attacks I love Yahshua but things just don't make sense to me especially this kinda stuff fr I really feel we had to have been the first people God chosen that's all I can think of and it makes so much since of what the bible teaches of the people in Israel back then definitely had to have been black just by all the things we went and still go through we gotta be the chosen

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@bana7116

19w↑4

Keep doing the good work Allen! We appreciate you so much🙏🏾

@camillewilliams3185

19w↑12

This illustrates why biblical literacy is so important whether you're a Christian or not.

@Singhster2

19w

He’s sugar coating in. Look at actual Hebrew scholars. YouTube Dan McCallen and see what he says about this

@whatshatnin4572

18w

You trippin

@lionbolt2136

15w

@@Singhster2 when you disagree with God and the Bible then your going to say that He's sugar coating it.
I've seen atheists even admit that what Allan is saying is true.
It's hard to admit the truth when your so against it.

@Singhster2

15w

@@lionbolt2136 no, it’s clearly sugar coating. I’ve seen almost 99% scholars go against this view.

@bjo004

19w

Amazing explanation. Thank you Allen for rightly dividing the word of truth 😊🙌🏾🌟💯👏🏾

@bhgtree

18w↑2

Thank you Allen, you've covered some topics that I had problems sorting out and explained them and enlightened me, God Bless.

@whatshatnin4572

15w

What about Canaan? What criminal activity or wrong doing did Canaan and his descendants do to be cursed into a life of chattel slavery before he was even born? How does that work?

@ssf744

17w

Man I love how professional your videos are. I can tell that you have prepared well. God/Christ is using you. Keep doing this work bro. You are a information. Very helpful inspiration. So true

@juliahuff6035

19w↑5

Very well done and informative on a subject that complicated. Could tell you have done much research.

@prateeksvoice

19w↑1

Seen so many videos on this topic. As always, brother Allen makes the most comprehensive video on this subject. I pray God blesses him with 100 times more wisdom and knowledge and influence. Amen!

@michaelreinhardt2974

19w↑7

Thanks so much for teaching us this important.stuff Allen Parr blessing you as always Amen 🙏🙏🙏

@wealthprosper6251

17w

You’re on point with these vids. Had a cousin years ago hit me with this same accusation about the Bible supposedly allowing slavery (the whole lev 25:44-46 trap) and I didn’t really know how to counter it at the time. This helped a lot. At yet while some ppl get in their soapbox about Africans being slaves they seem to “forget” that
1) BLACK kings found much profit selling off their own kin overseas. Mansa musa is the wealthiest Africa king in history yet much of his wealth came from slavery
2) the first federally recognized slaveowner was a BLACK man named Anthony Johnson
3) there’s around 27 million slaves in the country of Africa alone….where are the protestors at?

@brandontaylor2541

19w

Dang brother Allen thanks for the great video. Normally when I get asked these questions about slavery I kinda reply “yeah, and?” Now I have a better answer

@DaSmoov54

19w↑7

Great topic and biblical exposition!!

@desdencove5569

18w↑6

I still don’t understand why God said it was okay to buy foreign slaves and consider them property, even passing them on to their children as an inheritance.

@dannysalinas947

15w

You don't understand because in your mind is the Atlantic Slave trade

@brownparkproductions3488

19w↑5

Thank you for this video. I’ve heard arguments from people (namely, Black people) that the Bible condones slavery. As a Black woman, I believe the Bible is greatly misunderstood in that aspect. Of course, slavery existed during those times. However, it wasn’t the chattel slavery that took place in the United States, the Caribbean, and everywhere else. Is there a way that you can debunk the Slave Bible? I know WhaddoYouMeme talked about it in one of his videos in the past.

@horridhenry9920

19w↑2

You appear to have selectively understood what Allen said. In Leviticus chattel slavery was permitted. He tried to skate over it, but you cannot escape the fact that the Israelites were permitted to buy slaves from the nations around them and they would be property for life and an inheritance for their children.

@John-fk2ky

19w

@@horridhenry9920

Bud, SHUT UP. I’m not saying this because I’m ignoring your point (which is poor, but I’ll get to it). Spamming the comments section just makes you look like a troll. Make your point ONCE. Then stop. Believe it or not, you are not on very solid ground.

Chattel slavery is where you are not considered a human. Even if lifetime, slavery as described in the Old Testament was not comparable to whatever poorly formed argument you’re trying to make for two reasons. 1. Slaves could run away if the situation was bad, either to outside Israel or to another region. There’s no provision for returning runaways anywhere in the text. There’s also a LOT of rules concerning treatment that puts them in the category of “person”. There’s so many “outs” of slavery that it’s a wonder that someone that didn’t want to be there could be kept IN. 2. Gentile slaves came from either conquest or purchase from foreign markets. It wasn’t like Israel could have its own markets because of the ban on kidnapping. Which, again ruins your attempts to connect the Bible’s description of slavery with what people in the US first think about when hearing the word “slavery”.

@CaptainFantastic222

18w↑1

Any ownership of humans is immoral…

@caligirl10

19w↑3

Allen, have you ever thought about doing a video explaining Christianity and the different religions in African countries and the history. How do we as Christian’s talk to people who try to argue that our religion was different before slavery?

@JamesHeywood-ff1nc

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@mrartiste5351

19w↑13

Stop preaching prosperity gospel

@angelicaziegler1576

19w

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@KCRickman

19w

I invested with Mr Barry , i make about a 30,000USD every month.

@bereketgetahun1698

19w

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@seanrenzomunon9814

19w

I heard a lot of investing with Mr Barry and how good he is, please how safe are the profit?

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@mrhow2712

19w

I've never saw someone address this issue. Thanks for this. God bless you brother

@olivieryeung398

19w↑2

I had questiona about these verses, really God has blessed us with brother Allen

@rogerflores4480

19w↑4

You are an amazing teacher brother. Thank you

@Bugsy0333

19w

Slavery is ammazing ?

@felixramos1608

19w↑7

Notice how modern day debt can be attributed to slavery and indentured servitude

@rmanS2C

19w↑11

God bless you and your family. I watched the video you did 7 months ago about slowing down on the channel to focus on your family and I want send a word of encouragement. Luke 12:33. Even if you’re doing videos and it’s not getting traction don’t worry. That doesn’t mean you’re not pleasing our Heavenly Father. A mistake people make in ministry is equating more people coming to church/channel or anything similar as a sign of success. You keep spreading the good news and God will be pleased. You want people to be here because they want to increase their faith in Jesus not because they want to hear salacious gossip. Remember the most important thing is people hearing the gospel and as you mentioned there are many channels we can get that from so you don’t have to do it alone. We are all one body in Christ. Pray, fast and spend time with God and his spirit will guide you. God bless

@derrickcarson

19w↑2

Preach!

@thebeatagp

19w↑6

I really needed to hear that. Thank you so much.

@Invincible20022

19w↑1

Beautifully done, brother!

@thebeatagp

19w

Thanks for listening

@caligirl10

19w↑2

Thank you for doing a video on this.

@FireflowerDancer

19w↑7

This is a hard topic. My theory is that God does not complete justice in humanity until the New Heaven and New Earth. Until then, certain things are permitted. I.have to admit, it still makes me angry. And I have an honest question for Allen: would you be ok if you had been sold into slavery and your master was permitted to physically beat you? Would you really be ok with that? Would you not try to stop it somehow, you know, protest?

@ScoobyandShaggy5554

19w↑1

He did a good job of explaining it. How people are supposed to treat slaves. Some people went the extra mile, Wgy would God work around another human owning another? Well everything that happens in history happened for Jesus and to bring the eventual end. Maybe God is making us realise what humans did when they caused the curse, so that all the more we’d turn to Him? Seems likely. Anyways this wickedness will soon be over

@John-fk2ky

19w

You DO realize that your ENTIRE outlook on this subject is shaped by a culture shaped by the Bible, right? The ONLY reason slavery is not officially legal in most of the world is because the West, via gunboat diplomacy and colonial ventures, used physical and economic force to end it. In some of those places (particularly the Islamic world), they don’t question the morality of slavery at all, only its legality. You also live in a society with a police force and aren’t in danger of being dragged off to who knows where, a situation that Old Testament Israel and even the early church wasn’t in. Slavery was a fact of life. The question is not “is it wrong?” but “how do you deal with it?”. You just happen to live in a culture that decided that the simplest way to treat people as God commanded was to abolish slavery and were in a position to do so.

@FireflowerDancer

18w

@@John-fk2ky My "entire outlook?" I don't know about that.

But that was very analytical of you to notice that a person's viewpoint might be influenced by the culture they grew up in. Personally, I have trouble imagining that any enslaved person would have found it to be an agreeable situation.

@CaptainFantastic222

18w↑1

Quite easy to understand. The Bible was written 2000 years ago by men

@FireflowerDancer

18w

@@CaptainFantastic222 That's no reason to think it's irrelevant, or do you say that about all ancient texts . .
Like the Egyptian book of the Dead, book of Enoch, Dead Sea Scrolls, for example? 😉

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@a1saxy

19w↑3

Very very good. It is clear. For further clarity, a good book to read is "The Truth About Racism" by Dr Philip G Asante

@willmallory9085

19w

Thank you. Sound teaching!

@beautifulsoulsbystayeshay8003

16w

Thanks pastor, amen 🙏🏾

@pamelabrown8467

19w

Thanks for sharing 🙏🏼😇

@CaptainFantastic222

18w↑2

This makes me sad I have to explain:

ANY arrangement where a human is owned as property is immoral

@Madcow7777

18w↑5

It says “you shall NOT commit bestial acts”. It says “you SHALL have slaves”. The equation of bestiality to slavery is so false as to be not even remotely sincere.

@washingtonsteven6885

19w

JUST REAL RAW TRUTH BACKED BY GODS OWN WORD

@GoMommaGo

19w

If this is the situation they found themselves in, this is the rule governing that situation.
The moral law for each individual applies no matter what situation you’re in. Slave, free, rich, poor, and everyone in between. We’re still responsible to God to go by His rules.

@PRTEEGRL

19w↑2

Great topic!!

@sisterrose6836

19w↑7

Wouldn't God have condemned these practices, if they weren't His will, instead of "making up" rules, just in case they did happen?

@branver1172

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@kerwinbrown4180

17w↑1

God seems to negotiate with his people. Alen covers that aspect.

@AtheismActually

15w

@@branver1172 "certificates of divorce for people’s harness of heart,"
So why not also issue certificates of adultery or bestiality or everything else for people's hardness of heart? Yet, both adultery and bestiality warrant death, but owning a person as property for between seven years and a lifetime is just regulated so you don't outright beat them to an immediate death. 🙄

@AtheismActually

15w↑1

@@kerwinbrown4180Is God some kind of politician, that he has to negotiate? Why didn't God negotiate on picking sticks during the Sabbath (penalty: stoning to death)?

@branver1172

15w

@@AtheismActually I would take time to answer, except your eye roll shows me you are not really asking.

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@jesuscameforrelationshipno4165

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Deuteronomy 23:15-16
“You shall not give back to his master the slave who has escaped from his master to you. He may dwell with you in your midst, in the place which he chooses within one of your gates, where it seems best to him; you shall not oppress him.“
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@CaptainFantastic222

18w↑1

So the Bible contradicts itself

@jesuscameforrelationshipno4165

18w↑4

@@CaptainFantastic222 what a stupid comment, how does that verse make the Bible contradict itself❓slavery was never the will of God in the first place, when He created Adam and Eve He never intended men to rule over each other. The world was supposed to be perfect with Him until the fall came and sin separated us from God. This is your world bro, don’t blaspheme God in a system ran by humans 🤷🏾‍♂️

John 8:23 ”And He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.“
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@whatshatnin4572

18w

@@jesuscameforrelationshipno4165 Was slavery the will of bible god with Canaan

@jeffphelps1355

16w

Would "freedom" be better? For these servants no? They had no home or means to by food. There was no welfare . worse they could of been captured by neighboring people and actually made real slaves

@whatshatnin4572

16w

@@jeffphelps1355 You silly and have the mind of a real slave to think freedom is not better.

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@charnitabarnett

19w

This video was on point ‼️‼️

@ChildofGod98765

19w↑2

Jesus give me grace and endurance this Christmas. As a single mother my number one priority, are my sons. Both of them are autistic so they require a lot from me. God give me strength as I struggle to provide for them. My faith in you is still strong! Even as I struggle to pay rent every month and I struggle to buy groceries for my children, I KEEP FAITH in you LORD. Jesus hear my prayers I’m so overwhelmed and discouraged because I’m also battling lupus and have heart issues. Lord give me strength because I want to give up. 😢

@evangelesong6319

19w↑2

I see this comment a lot.

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w↑2

Im sorry but you have been posting this same comment for 2 years now😂i think youre a scammer at this point

@ChiefestofSinner

19w↑5

click bait? na not allen Parr. God bless you brother.prayers for you and your ministry

@Disciple793

19w↑1

Great video. I'm still somewhat confused about Leviticus 25:44-46. So, a Hebrew master may buy a gentile slave and can keep that slave for life, even passing the slave down as inherited property? Is this only allowed during war time? Any feedback would be great. God bless!

@horridhenry9920

19w

Don’t be confused. It’s chattel slavery. The passage says they could buy the slaves from the nations around them. No difference from the transatlantic slave trade.

@Disciple793

19w↑1

@@horridhenry9920 No it's not. Apparently, you don't know how to read the bible and have ignored all the verses in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy. You probably didn't even watch the video.

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w

@@horridhenry9920why are you spamming everyone get a life?

@horridhenry9920

19w↑1

@@Disciple793 I watched the video up to the point where Allen started to plug his course. Did I miss something?
It’s funny how I can read every other book, but I have to know how to read the Bible.

I ignored nothing. The reality is that indentured servitude was widely practiced among the Israelites. However the Israelites were able to buy slaves from the nations around them, they were able to make sex slaves of the little girls of the nations they conquered.
No difference from chattel slavery.

@sassafras8677

19w

@@horridhenry9920that’s such an old tired argument no they weren’t allowed to take the little girls and make sex slaves 🙄

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@aperxmim

19w↑2

And this is why the tax agency has only up to 7 years to go after you, the same time frame as the slave (6 years)

@johncarminati2326

19w

Nice overview Allen

@AhLaShabat3

19w

Psalms 149:6-9
[6]Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;
[7]To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;
[8]To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;
[9]To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

@Bugsy0333

19w

Yes it does !

@tablefrog

18w

I don’t agree with the message of the video, but I give Allen props for showing grace when I was rude. He was a class act when I wasn’t

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w

Man it must have been soooo tormenting to have been a slave back then man i feel so bad for those that were owned by people im glad it isnt allows anymore at lesst for us blacks i know in china its still slavery very sad 😢

@joanarc7963

19w↑4

People love to use these scriptures all the time to justify hating God. I’m glad you spoke on this. Getting sick of these people

@horridhenry9920

19w↑1

Why are you getting sick of the truth? The bible permitted chattel slavery, period.

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w↑3

@@horridhenry9920great we get your point MOVE ALONG now dude

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w↑4

Me too they cherry pick verses to use them agaisnt God but God will have the last words on judgement day 🙏🏾

@joanarc7963

19w↑1

@@horridhenry9920 get out of here SCOFFER! I don’t have to answer to you!

@horridhenry9920

19w

@@Yahshuaismyeverything It’s interesting that when people are confronted with truth they say “MOVE ALONG”. You have no intellectual response, you want to be left alone in your echo chamber.
Don’t engage in public comments if you do not want to see what others have to say.

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@traelove6634

19w

Thank you. Awesome apologetics!

@walkinthewoods981

18w↑1

What does it mean to be an apologetics? Real question. Thanks

@traelove6634

18w↑1

@@walkinthewoods981 Apologetics is defending the faith from those who object it or attempt to disprove and discredit the faith or its doctrines.

@mauricecampbell6284

19w↑4

There is no justification for slavery and the creator of this universe cannot support slavery. This text was made and placed in the bible as a support for slavery. Slavery is an act of wickedness for any human being and it will always be wrong .

@jaflenbond7854

19w

@robevans8629

15w

I think selling yourself into servitude is fair, definitely not ideal, but if a huge life event happened and you needed some financially help yo aid a family member or something, you had the option to pay down your debt in labor and treated as a hired worker instead of never being able to pay down that debt on your own.

@AhLaShabat3

19w

Revelation 2:25-28
[25]But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
[26]And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
[27]And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
[28]And I will give him the morning star.

@jessedonaldson2536

19w

It takes balls to cover this topic

@268Jamal

19w↑3

It is also worth mentioning that the whole Exodus narrative was about God freeing His people from Egyptian slavery. And also, Jesus said to the Jews, in John 8:36, "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." (Read John 8:31-36, which speaks of slavery to sin and the freedom we receive in Christ). 1 Corinthians 7:22 KJV For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.

@jaflenbond7854

19w

@nickjones1314

19w↑1

What about unborn Baby Canaan and his unborn descendants being cursed into a lifetime of chattel slavery before they were even born? How does that work?

@pure2060

19w

Perfect timing posting this after the Alex o Conner and Ben Shapiro Debate.

@S.c.Ripture

19w

This a great way to lead into the conversation about some differences… KJV doesn’t say slave. Which takes away the entire vibe of that direction of thinking. Ijs…

@tgherman3619

19w

Ephesians 6 5:9 also. Good video btw.

@kh2140

18w↑1

Slavery exists today, but it's now called employment. The employee has more rights than a past slave but it's basically the same thing. The employee (slave) goes to the master (employer) and says they will sacrifice their life to make them money for a reward of money. The employer (master) says to the employee (slave) that these are the requirements or rules you must do to receive the reward from them. Otherwise, you'll be terminated from working for them. That's in a nutshell.

@rizzcool5983

15w

employment is not slavery, you can quit your job, or work for yourself. No one is forcing you to stay there. what you said is ridiculous.

@kh2140

15w

@@rizzcool5983 you haven't read what I said. Reread it.

@rizzcool5983

15w

Yes I did. The employee has more rights than a past slave but it’s basically the same thing. No it is not the same thing or nowhere near the same thing. An employer does not own an employee as property that can be passed on to their children.

@kh2140

15w

@rizzcool5983 you don't realize that unless you have employment, that you have to adjust your life to in order to receive money, you aren't getting any money. How many people out there hate their job but have to submit to its rules, or they don't get paid or terminated? How many people's marriages have failed because of their jobs requirements? People today have more rights than what a slave had, but those rights had to be fought for over the years. Today, if you want to acquire things, they require you to have the money for it. For most people, in order to get money, you have to sacrifice a portion, if not most of your life, to make them money in order for you to get money.

@rizzcool5983

15w

@@kh2140 you are equating slavery to employment which is flawed. You point out the negatives of employment when there are positives like providing for your family. You can also change your job if you don’t like it, or work for yourself. Yes there are rules for a job and if you don’t like them you have the CHOICE to leave. With slavery there is no choice, no freedom. Would you rather work a 9 to 5 you hate, or be a slave?

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@adrianalexander3262

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@holyexperience1976

19w

Peace be with you, Brother Allen. Blessed belated birthday by the way.
Do you believe it is true Black people are Canaanites or just a cop out from slave owners?

@jovonbrowne3129

19w↑4

I understand people think it shouldn't of been allowed at all and they're tired of hearing God has to work with and through imperfect people and bla bla bla but God has to respect to some degree that he gave mankind dominion over the earth, and knowing that we would do evil make provisions to help curb it. We all agree today that slavery in all forms is wrong but even without God it still exist, to me that says more about mankind than it does about God. " why doesn't he just stop it?" so you're telling me an adult man in this day and age doesn't know for himself that stealing a child is incredibly heinous and monstrous?

@MrKappaKappaPsi

19w

Amen. Excellent break down

@Bugsy0333

19w

The scripture says different I wish he would stop with his bullshit lies. Shame on you you.

@AtheismActually

15w

It's weaksauce. Dr Joshua Bowen has demolished all of this.

@docsavage30

15w↑1

"Does The Bible Condone Slave Masters Beating Their Slaves?" Yes. In Exodus 21:20-21. No punishment for non lethal beating of persons owned as property. It's unambiguous. Admittedly, Hebrew slaves were kept under different rules, but not all slaves were Hebrew. Best Wishes, DOC

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w↑2

I'm a beleiver but why does God allow demons to hurt and torment me? I ask him and he never responds to this but he answers my other questions i still feel his love but sometimes its so hard bcus demons attack me alot and i can feel them and its hard to sleep sometimes bcus they wake me up in a scary way why Yahweh allows this it makes me depressed and i dont know what to do sometimes but i wana be raptured sooo bad it makes me so sad being here i wana go home so bad i hate being here i feel uncomfortable all the time 😢i just wana be home i feel trapped here

@AhLaShabat3

19w↑1

Isaiah 14:1-2
[1]For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
[2]And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

@thetropicalhyggelife3703

19w

Brother Allen Please make commentaries or content about the movie “Leave the world Behind”

@Servant44

19w

@LondonGoCrzy000

19w↑2

This was something that was hard for me before I really took God serious. I used to use the as a reason to not believe in God

@run2cat4run

19w

Back then people needed answers and God was it and now times has changed and people are less religious

@1saamor897

19w↑1

everyone distorts scripture to say they don't wanna believe. but once they become humble and seek Truth only, it will always point to following Jesus.

@Fightingvaultboy

15w

Great video God Bless.

@oldschool5

15w

Only if you are delusional

@vangiesutton2163

19w↑3

So instead of freeing the wife (if she has separate debt) along with the husband & forgiving the debt…the master takes the man as a slave for life? This still seems to be in the favor of the master & restricting the slave from being free even though the slave chooses it. If the option is loose my family because of debt instead of being free without them most would choose to remain. How is this still not a manipulation of a man’s life for the benefit of a master? Help me with that one?

@FireflowerDancer

18w↑1

I really believe that God sees slavery the same way he sees divorce. A thing that humans should not ever do or practice. I cannot explain why God 'condoned' it in the OT, but in 1 Timothy ch 1 it says that people who buy and sell slaves will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

@whatshatnin4572

18w

@@FireflowerDancer As long as man is speaking on behalf of a god, man will make the god condone whatever the man wants to condone. Bible God was straight up about serving other gods but weak on slavery. That just tells me that the man speaking for the deity doesnt want people going to other men who speak on behalf of other deities but they can enslave each other. We are being played

@FireflowerDancer

18w

@@whatshatnin4572 There's an idea. But who is 'we,' and whom are we being played by?

@whatshatnin4572

18w

@@FireflowerDancer To paint with a wide brush I would say that the general public is being played by men who speak on behalf of a mute deity. But really Black Folks and Popr Folks are being played the most. The poorer you are the more you believe and the more you believe the less you know

@FireflowerDancer

18w

@@whatshatnin4572 So you think essentially we as humans are being played by our own selves, then

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@williamstier6445

19w

11:35 Yes they're may have been some that were kidnapped, however the majority of them were actually sold from Africa. And as far as I'm aware they still have slaves over there to this day.

@AhLaShabat3

19w↑1

Revelation 13:9-10
[9]If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[10]He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w↑1

I haven't read the whole old testament i didnt know about this all i know is im thank Yahweh i wasnt alive during slavery thats terrfying that it was allows by Yahweh 😮😮but most of the slave owners are in hell tbh

@Gamer1990100

19w↑3

Slavery back then was for sure different than slavery of the colonials era

@horridhenry9920

19w↑1

Only for Israelites. For the surrounding nations it was chattel slavery.

@shaynehopkins8296

19w

@@horridhenry9920 your trying so hard to make a point that isn’t there you can continue with your propaganda and none sense. No one is going to believe you. It would better if you got over your need to reply to everyone if this is the same person from before because we know the Bible doesn’t state what your claiming and your just using it as a excuse. Learn the actual meanings of the Bible rather then making them up so you can use them for propaganda.

@Fightingvaultboy

19w

Bullshit

@CaptainFantastic222

18w

And both are wrong and immoral

@AtheismActually

15w

As Dr Joshua Bowen likes to say in response to such comparisons, "So?". Slavery is slavery, period.

@shanteladams7613

19w↑1

I don't understand the new testament verses about slaves being submissive to their masters even if treated badly. Do you have any thoughts on that and why the onus was on the slaves to submit to this? It seems that instruction would discourage them trying to escape

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w↑1

Yessss its scary tbh

@branver1172

19w↑1

Just my thoughts. In a different place Paul tells slaves to be free if they can. (I Cor. 7:21)

So, I believe this passage is talking to slaves who were absolutely stuck in a Roman system of slavery.

The main thing all Christians are called to is showing Christ to the lost. The slave is being told to be more concerned for their master’s salvation than themselves. To surprise the master with good and sincerely kind behavior even though the master didn’t deserve it. In doing this, they might be a witness for Christ who also was kind to those who didn’t deserve it.

@John-fk2ky

19w↑2

Okay, let’s back up a second and look at the practicalities, starting with Christianity as a whole. First, encouraging running away would put Christianity in a bad legal light. Second, it would endanger Christian slaves throughout the empire. Third, part of being a Christian is being a witness to the world, and running away means that you can’t do that with your master or other slaves.

As for the slave himself or herself, you’re suggesting a course of action that might be WORSE for the slave than staying. Rome controlled everything touching the Mediterranean and quite a bit beyond it. To truly escape rather than spend the rest of his or her life as a fugitive, a slave would have to run away from the pinnacle of civilization in the west (China being its eastern counterpart) and flee to where, exactly? What’s now Scotland or Ireland? Germany? Those areas were highly tribal and in the latter case might sell you back to Rome for some wine. Anywhere else you might care to go would be similarly likely to seize you. That’s not even counting the likelihood that you will not know the local language or meet anyone that knows yours. The only other option is to live as a bandit, and your career will likely be short and end with a gladius in your stomach. This is not the antebellum South where you can run across a border and be free while living in a similar culture. There’s simply nowhere TO go. Given all that, Paul’s giving the best advice he can for slaves in general. If the situation is truly unbearable, there actually were legal remedies in the empire. They wouldn’t get you free, but they would get you away from a particularly bad owner. If you’re present so you can actually hear the letter being read (which is what would happen at meetings; copies were circulated between churches beyond the original recipients for teaching purposes), then since you’re among believers go ask for help. One of the richer ones might be able to buy you, and then you’d be safe.

@FireflowerDancer

18w

@@John-fk2ky Do you think that what Harriet Tubman did with the underground railroad was right? Should she have remained submissive or was helping to organize an escape route for black slaves the right thing to do?

@FireflowerDancer

18w↑1

@@branver1172 That actually makes a lot of sense. I don't have an answer for why God allowed it as part of the global system, but I agree that IF a believer was unfortunate enough to be enslaved, their attitude towards their master could be a witness. The master would see how selflessly the believer served them and it might lead them to understand God's love a little better.

@youandiaregonnafacegodonju5567

19w

i have been in this argument many times with non believers, they all get so angry when you say that god didn't condone slavery but regulated it like with every other sin in the world.. .

@CaptainFantastic222

18w↑1

To regulate something is to allow for it….

I can’t speak for others but I generally get upset when people advocate for the ownership of other humans

@macmac1022

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@mtsalmela80

19w↑1

If Biblical passages were written today about current events, the same people claiming this means Christians think slavery was ok would say "did God allow 9.11, did he condone October 7th?" The world is an evil place, its our job to live our lives justly, not question our faith because the OT references slavery

@is34preteristforce

19w

8:18 Only Israelite or Hebrew slaves were treated this well. There is no indication any of the non-Hebrew slaves ever received the same treatment.

@mikes5079

18w↑1

Allen does a perfect job explaining it here but if a non-believer says to me, "what about slavery?!" I say, "look up the scriptures about employees and employers in the bible." To which, they will have to say, there aren't any. "Exactly." I like to point out that being "employed" was different in biblical times and what we have today. So, in many (most) cases employer and "master" are synonymous.

@whatshatnin4572

18w

Then as a nonbeliever I would respectfully ask you to explain Baby Canaan and all of his descendants being cursed into a lifetime of chattel slavery. Most Christians run from these type.of questions

@mikes5079

18w

@@whatshatnin4572 How come you folks never ask why Israel was in slavery in Egypt for 430 years? I never hear that question. How come? (antisemitism?)

@mikes5079

18w

@@whatshatnin4572 Also, It's interesting how nonbelievers will commonly ask, "how come God allows such horrible things to happen in the world?" But, then when God does do something about it, they ask, why would God allow the Canaanites to be put in bondage or killed?

The backstory here is that the Canannites were Baal worshippers and as such, they would sacrifice babies to Baal (and Molech) by putting living babies on pyre's of fire. Horrible. So, God intervened. Was He wrong to do so?

Let me know if anymore questions. I'm happy to do my best to answer. God Bless!
~mike

@whatshatnin4572

18w↑2

@FireflowerDancer

18w

@@mikes5079 A servant also has a 'master' but they are not owned, they are working voluntarily and are paid. I'm sorry, but you can't dismiss the fact that the Bible does actually condone slavery in the old testament, so easily. And slavery still exists, especially in the sex trade where people are kidnapped and forced to work under threat of death or abuse. By the way, I do believe in the sovereignty of God, I'm just not buying these excuses people try to make for Him. He must have had a reason but we have to admit it was pretty awful what he permitted people to do to other people.

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@philw9787

19w

U go preacher!! Hell has enlarged itself. So many slave holders if they did not repent hv face God Judgement!!

@laquan3661

19w

@CaptainFantastic222

18w

Every passage you just posted is highly immoral

@Singhster2

15w↑1

Even with the context you gave, it pretty messed up. And why are you comparing it to the slavery in the USA? lol Good thing that Dr Joushua Bowen, the top scholar in slavery of the OT, will be debunking you tomorrow on a live stream

@whatshatnin4572

15w

Send us the link

@endersdragon34

19w

Yes, yes it does. The end

@RichardAberdeen-cn8rg

19w↑4

The New Testament is clearly against slavery and war. The Old Testament is the Age of Law. The New Testament is the Age of Grace. No follower of Jesus in the Age of Grace should ever support war or slavery for any reason, as clearly taught below.

Jesus says he came "to set the captives free and to set at liberty those who are oppressed." --Luke 4

"If anyone has an ear, let him hear. He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the endurance and the faith of the saints." -- Revelation 13: 9-10

"But Jesus said to him, 'Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.'" -- Matthew 26:52

@AtheismActually

15w

He allegedly told them to buy swords in the first place, buddy. Even to sell their cloaks so they could buy the swords.

@freedomtracksrecords4452

15w

@AtheismActually

15w

@@freedomtracksrecords4452 Per Christianity, "Jesus" is the same guy as the "God" of the Old Testament, who repeatedly ordered or committed mass slaughter and condoned enslavement, and is therefore accountable for all of those. Maybe "he got better", but that's neither very Godly nor qualifying for a gold standard or moral perfection.

@freedomtracksrecords4452

15w

@@AtheismActually Only God can wage righteous war. We humans cannot wage righteous war, which is why Jesus told us to put our swords away. Since the birth of Jesus, we now live in the age of grace, where there is no more righteous war until Jesus returns. The messengers of God ushered in the age of grace, singing "peace on earth, goodwill to the people".

Most modern Christians don't understand this, which is why in great error they blindly support American and other wars. Blaming God for what Christians do or what people in general do is very unwise, as we all make our own choices, while God reacts accordingly.

@christset

19w

It was the same in Nigeria back then, before it became Nigeria after fighting a war with each other tribal war that is ; the slaves captured were sold to the British and british shipped them to virginia.

@kiki7507

19w

To some of y’all who says the Bible is pro-oppressive slavery: how do you explain why the Slave Bible exists? 90% of the New Testament is gone and so is 50% of the Old Testament. Why was so much of the original content removed?

@patrickjeffrey5249

19w

It shouldn't even have the word bible in the name...

@imanii4u

19w↑1

The Good News? There is no slavery in God’s Kingdom, nor was there slavery in His original design. Humans were/are given free will and we continue to dishonor God’s Perfect Will. Please forgive us, Father.

@jaflenbond7854

19w

@Madcow7777

18w

Bad news we have no free will. Just ask any Calvinist

@christset

19w

it seems to me back then tha they dont use employee or employer

@Jiraiya-di7iw

19w

Whatever God says is right is right, whatever God says is wrong is wrong. Whatever he condones you should condone, whatever he condemns you should condemn. Whatever He says goes.

God says "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Therefore Who is any man or woman to hold God to man's corrupted moral standards as if you know more than him. Where was any one who criticizes his word when He layed the foundations of the world and universe. If something is in the bible that you do not like, learn to like it. Because you cannot reprimand God Almighty. it is your sinful nature that makes you reject it and become opinionated because your knowledge is greater than God's, such hubris prevents you from seeing the Good God's word represents. Humble yourselves and serve the Lord with Fear and Humility. He doesn't meet our standards, we must meet his, or burn in hell. Can anyone prove to be more righteous than Him?

Never forget;

Joshua 24:15
15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

@octaviofernandezymostajosa3346

19w↑4

If The OT did not condone slavery the law would be full of things like "Though shall not enslave no one under no circumstance.." or "slavery is detestable...". You don't have to go through all of the theological and rhetorical gymnastics man. The OT and NT never forbade slavery as something that God is against. The first thing you have to do is accept that and make theology from that fact, otherwise you are being disingenuous with yourself and your audience. All Christians, which includes me, should accept that reality and deal with it as best as they can.

@Nazarene_Judaism

19w↑1

Leviticus 25:44-46
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves FOR LIFE , BUT... you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly ( You cannot own an Israelite for life. only non Israelites can be owned for life).

@oldschool5

19w↑1

Sounds like chattel slavery to me

@Tren-bh7sp

19w↑5

If God didn't want that to happen, he would make it illegal. The same for idolatry. God didn't allow idolatry regardless of the reasons, no excuses. But things were different for slavery, God legalized slavery and human owning other humans.

@run2cat4run

19w↑1

In the Old Testament God was fine with incest and polygamy

@kiki7507

19w↑1

You could say the same thing about anything. But you need to remember that human beings are evil and that there is free will. There are passages in scripture about how God freed the Israelites from oppressive slavery. Also, if God was so supportive of oppressing people, why was there a slave bible? They took out most verses about freeing the oppressed so the slaves wouldn’t use scripture as a basis to revolt.

At the same time, sometimes bad things are legalized because people are straight up evil. We live in a world where people would rather do wrong than right. Like how I feel about certain forms of abortion. Killing a child is wrong but it’s legalized. So what, God agrees with it because it’s legal? No. This entire life is about whether you can do the wrong or right thing, with God as judge in the end where the world will be perfect and free from any kind of slavery or abortion. But you have to be the one to choose to make your heart ready and turn towards him. Repent! You can be at the front, urging people to do the right thing for God’s kingdom 🙏🏾

@Yahshuaismyeverything

19w

@@run2cat4runno it wasn't dont lie on Gods word

@imanii4u

19w

Humans have free will. Humans legalized slavery, God allowed it.

@branver1172

19w

@@run2cat4runhe was not fine with it. That is not true. Did you listen to the above video and comprehend it?

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@lepp6598

18w↑1

Want some mustard on that pretzel logic?

@eriksatterfield4755

19w

No offense brother Allan but I wish you would start making more videos like John MacArthur and go into detail about different chapters and different scriptures. These videos just talk about little things people think about here and there. A lot of your videos are good but the bulk of them are like this

@Kusiankusi

19w

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@kerwinbrown4180

17w

The passage infers that slaves do not have equal rights. It is a foolish question that conceals the real question of why does God condone slavery. The real question asumes slavery is wrong despite the fact prisoners od war and convicts are especially slaves as the have their right to liberty restrained. Slavery is more complex than can be covered quickly.

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