@Holy Khan I sorry I'm rushed but I'm trying to type you out a good response but will have come back clean it un in 10-22 hours sorry but life sucks for me.

In the days of the Steam Engine and Early Diesel trains you had Movie Film Studio Companies bigger than the Telecommunication like Google and Facebook of today, The rivaled the Early Railroads Companies for the ability to assert power and control over people and lands far and wide.

Those were the Big FILM Studios and they were even more powerful than they are today. In the 1900-1950's you didn't dare cross the Film Studios "IF you knew what was good for you !" . Any actor /actress that dared suddenly fond no one that would work with them, out of fear of being black balled by association. They locked performers in not just for a film series but for years and would build up and tear down stars as they saw fit and for their own pleasures. The casting couch was very real. You had to tow the company line and always do and act as they wanted in your professional life and personal life. Even as far making stars marry other stars despite they didn't have love for each other and preferred the same gendered as themselves, not the person they married. It was also a time when being seen as gay would end a career for any leading man in films. So social politics and homophobia also played into it but you were owned by the studios. Even if you found and independent company/studio that would hire you produce a film, they would tell their theaters if they showed the film they would loose the studio's films . Hence the Studios could blackball any actor and/or director due to much control they had from studio ownership and actual movie theater ownership. The rival studios while they would try to hire away stars from the other, they wouldn't work someone that broke the company line because they wanted it clear to their contracted performers that they have no options if they go to work for____.

The Big Hollywood Studios practices actually had the USA Congress intervene against them...... For ANTI-TRUST and their Monopoly. Because the Studios' death grip on every aspect from the start of writing to pre- production, to development, to filming, to making duplicates, to distribution, creation of press packs and advertising posters , and then control of projectionists (Highly skilled Carbon Arc lamp operator was require not the nice projectors that even teenage kids can throw a switch of today), they had their hands in the USHER Unions, the FOH & ROH (Front and Rear Of House) staff also. Remember a lot of movie theaters were also live venue places. That doesn't even count the musician union and how at the start, films had sound scores that were played by traveling and certain ""qualified"" local talent help. Back before the "Talkies" as they were called when you actually got to hear dialogue with the film you were watching, not just read text on the screen between scenes. Side digress, a humorous quote from Warner Bro's studio when confronted about adding sound to their films, one of them said "Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"

This Death grip also allowed the union like I.A.S.T.E. to use their leverage with international work force across the country to bring about safety and fair wages for studio and on location work. Along with projectionists, which was a skilled job that involved running projectors that had metal rods that had to be adjusted and changed (the arcing burnt away material so feeding and keeping the arc gap aligned required constant attention see the "Carbon Arc" projectors and spotlights for info.) as the electricity arced between them to create the bright light. That projectionists had to preview the films, splice together film reels, add on trailers by hand. Not to mention during World War 1 & 2 they would splice in the war news footage reels to bring news to the masses. TV wasn't in every home(nor was the radio yet) and seeing the film reels was great military propaganda tool. Imagine going to your movie theater to get the world news.

The Companies like MGM, Paramount, 20th century fox (later 21st then just FOX), ect. owned the Studios and the movie theaters. If the theater wasn't owned by them at best you might be low percentage owner of the franchise. There independents but they struggled and were at disadvantage because they didn't have much leverage for negotiations. Which also meant they could keep out the other studio's films out of that movie theater or making them take reduced rates to get their film shown in regions of the country that a rival studio didn't have their own Movie Theaters. Independent owned theaters had to pay per showing for films at higher rates and would get jerked around by the studio to give preferences for their films or not get them all. While the other independent theaters that gave them the preferred preference over their competition in town did. So local movie theaters had to choose which Studio Brand they wanted to be much like when restaurants could carry coke-a-cola products or Pepsi but nor both.

As you know opening weekend and the 1st week is the highest number of sales, so by holding the film back from the small theater owner had even worse time covering those ""Royalty Fees"" and "Marketing Expenses"" that were also tacked on to make back any money the Studios spent promoting. So you had the 2nd run and 3rd run markets movie theaters, which all but dried up with huge 20+ multi-screen complexes of today.

Another part of the deal supposedly , was that Big Studios carried more of advertising costs and had Star Actors and Actresses under limited appearances contracts. They could only perform in their Studio's films or risk being locked out of the Hollywood totally. They would then doing promotional work for the film, where ever and however the Studios wanted.

So There was lot going on that was corrupt and the book keeping was legendary. For Example even in today's industry "Titanic" (The recent one that was a big block buster 10-15 years ago) Has made more money than most every film made but due to contract and payment of production percentage points that came off the back end ,, that the film has legally never made any money for the Movie Studio...... So no Taxes since it was all a "lost" and didn't break even after expenses......

Prop departments that are owned by the studios that rent the props to the studio as an expense, which somehow is never an asset owned and taxed.....

That doesn't even get in Lighting, Grip gear and cameras......

Sorry this was so bad. I cleaned it up to actually make sense.

All comments from YouTube:

Ken Jackson

4y↑56

I remember when this movie was in the theaters a friend said, yes, he would go with us to see it again because the train wreck alone was worth the price of admission.

TheBrickGuy7939

2y↑3

It was the coolest scene in the film. As a train fan this wreck is one of my favourites in cinematic history. It really does not look fake at all. It all feels so genuine.

raydunakin

3y↑72

This was definitely not the first time a movie train wreck was shot using a full-scale train. I can think of a couple older movies just off the top of my head. Buster Keaton's "The General" (1926) featured a real, full-scale steam locomotive crashing through a burning bridge.
The 1952 movie "Denver and Rio Grande" featured a head-on collision of two real, narrow gauge trains pulled by steam locomotives.

Travlis Hallingquest

And the train features in THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI.

John Bryer

2y↑1

It seems every group, organization or "social-whatever," want's to claim being the first something, that's been done many time before in the past!

snigwithasword

2y↑1

Crash at Crush. Really gross inaccuracy and not at all surprising...

Devonian

2y↑1

Don't forget the cassandra crossing all that was real.

Runawayfreak Gaming

3y↑6

Don't forget the train with Burt Lancaster. Having said that real crashes afer the 1950's was a bit more rare.

cool2180

4y↑42

I loved this era of movie 🎥 making. The effects look so real and they used to go in on the setup of action 🎬 scenes

Kevin Guthrie

4y↑1

The last movie created to not use CGI was Waterworld, anything after that is the start of CGI. Waterworld was also the most expensive movie ever made at $325 million.

lucky chucky

4y↑90

Being a conductor 43 years I've been in wrecks like that it's really the way it happens except maybe for the Sparks but the sound of the metal and then the dead quietness afterwards that got me when I was in the Rex I thought we were never going to stop I was in the Caboose or as we call it the way car 13 cold cars in front of us went into the ditch I thought we were never going to stop cold Shot by me like bullets I held on for dear life and then the quietness the quietness

TheBrickGuy7939

Awesome story.

Oregon Railfan

@Trains the fuck is that suppost to mean

Trains

@Oregon Railfan Quit living up to your states name

Bryce Hale

Work for the Santa Fe?

Aaron Bennett

PTSD

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The Dork Knight

3y↑8

I recall this scene as a kid so iconic! Movies relying too much on CGI effects just come off as so sterile and "video game like"

Clipperw B

3y↑6

There is also a great wreck scene in the 1952 movie, Denver & Rio Grande. They used two real narrow gauge steam locomotives, nos. 319 and 345 on the Denver & Rio Grande Western Railroad, running under their own power, and ran them together head on. Of course, Hollywood couldn't be satisfied with just a great train wreck, they had to add some dynamite to make the scene even more spectacular. The movie is available on Amazon Prime and Turner Movie Classics

Bassotronics

4y↑10

This movie is so old it is the first time I see this. Thanks for uploading!
By the way, I always found it odd how the bus rolls down the hill vertically and all the sudden it lands horizontally on the track. Magic!

A Savannah

4y↑7

You can go on the Tuckaseegee River train ride with the Smoky Mountains Railroad from Bryson City to Dillsboro. We did it in October 2019 on their beautiful steam train and we went right by the train and bus wrecks. I highly recommend it. They also have Diesel trains, but I recommend the steam train

Drayton Blackgrove

4y↑33

I remember watching this as a kid. So cool to see it on YouTube.

Robert Ruyle

3y↑4

Three busses were used in the filming allowing different camera angles. All three were from Downers Grove Illinois and had been used in commuter shuttle service for many years. They were well beyond their service life and sold as scrap to the film makers.

THECHOSENONE22

3y↑3

I was on that tourist train as a kid and remember seeing the prop wreck site! It was amamzing

Teh angry bird 345

4y↑8

It’s really cool how they make these amazing staged train derailments!

trainfan4449

3y↑6

One of my favorite derailment scenes.
Some fax for everyone.
The "train" used 3 locomotives.
A GE U18b, a EMD GP30HH, and a homemade "Slug" built from plywood on a flatcar.
All the rolling stock and locomotives where purchased from railroad companies that had plans to scrap said equipment. This included, 2 flatcars, 6 boxcars, 6 hopper cars, 2 tank cars, 2 log cars, and the two locomotives.
The locomotives where just empty shells, they contained no motors or fuel.
Equipment was purchased from 3 railroad companies, Conrail, CSX Transportation, and Norfolk Southern.

OakRail

@Bushrod Rust Johnson that was GSMR 777, which was recently destroyed in Mr Beast recant video

Bushrod Rust Johnson

2y↑2

A third locomotive painted in "Illinois Southern" colors, unlettered, shows up in this video. A Chop nose GP9.

This video shows the U18 to still have its prime mover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJWdMm8J0lc

TheBrickGuy7939

It was the same situation with The Train in 1964 where the locomotives they used were heading for scrap and the yard that was bombed was going to be chopped up anyway so they conveniently decided to bomb it for a scene in the film. And the locomotives were shells?? It did not look like that at all I'm shocked.

Reading Area Railfan

3y↑1

trainfan4449 GP30: NS
U18B: CR

Mike Jordan

4y↑263

Back when Movies were made the hard way, and the good way and the right way.

golden strawberry

@Devonian wtf you talking about? They have u just don’t notice cuz the best cgi looks like reality

Devonian

2y↑1

@golden strawberry CGI is sh*t bro, stop acting like they've used cgi properly since Jurassic park.

k5lta

Oh yes back when they put their heart and souls into movies. 💯

Włodek W

3y↑2

@golden strawberry i agree with you

Mike Jordan

3y↑3

@Michael4201 While people have been killed in the making of some movies it hasn't happened enough to warrant people not to do realistic effects.

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railtrolley

4y↑35

This scene was good enough for Leslie Neilsen to film a tribute to it in Wrongfully Accused.

William H. Baird

2y↑2

It was one of the best Train Wreck scenes!

UnlimitedGaming019 Inc.

4y↑4

you can also drive there to see it... The movie version of the wreck is awesome!

Robert Murphy

3y↑2

For the Denver & Rio Grande movie, two narrow gauge steam locomotives collided head on, destroying both of them and a number of cars. No models. Real trains.

Lisa Myers-Lucas

4y↑119

And I'm pretty sure the 2nd full scale train wreck is in Unstoppable.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

@Keith Ode They cannibalized real SD40s to make those mockups. Several locomotives died for the movie.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

@Joseph Joestar The derailed SD40s in Unstoppable were mockups made from real SD40s and there was two or three 1206s. The dolly camera 1206 was scrapped.

TheBrickGuy7939

2y↑1

There have definitely been so many other real train wrecks in movies before The Fugitive.

unaizilla

@Ohio and Northeastern productions the wreck in atomic train was made with 1/6 scale trains

Branded McGowan

3y↑2

And in 1995 under siege 2 uses model trains to create a dramatic bridge train crash involving the Southern Pacific vs the passenger train

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Glenn Cerny

4y↑3

Very cool. Thanks for sharing this history with us,

oubrioko

3y↑4

Listen up ladies and gentlemen:
Our fugitive's been on the run for ninety minutes. Average foot speed over uneven ground - barring injury - is four miles an hour, that gives us a radius of six miles. What I want out of each and everyone of you, is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse, or doghouse in that area! Checkpoints go up at 15 miles. Your fugitive's name is Doctor Richard Kimble. Go get 'em!

oubrioko

@Bushrod Rust Johnson 👀

Bushrod Rust Johnson

There is no way marshals would have been there in 90 minutes.

Charles Kinzer

3y↑2

NOT the first to use a real train. There is the 1964 movie "The Train" starring Burt Lancaster that had an amazing wreck of real engines. And no special effects at all - just an actual crash. And long before that was the 1926 movie "The General" that wrecked a real steam engine by have a bridge collapse under it. It was the most costly shot in all of silent film history.

C Dills

4y↑365

Some bueatiful locos left to rot, but I guess I can't complain too much since they likely would've been scrapped if not used for the film.

TheBrickGuy7939

2y↑1

GP-30's look awesome I have to say.

rear speaker

2y↑1

@ClearlycaribbeanReb BNSF has some now classed as gp39-3

Paul Ayers

@Knitting Pasta Unstoppable 777?

Paul Ayers

@Ham549 we watched more than just that! D-10 Cat Dozers Sherman Hill Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 and WeLL ... Trains 🚂 Fly Here !

Seen it several times Doze a Trench and Push the Whole Kitty in the ditch and covered up insurance claims pay 💰 out to?

Paul Ayers

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pixamite1

3y↑2

Wow I had no idea that the Great Smokey Mountain Railroad did all of this great work in the movie! That was two years before I hired on with one of the nations Class 1 railroads. The first time I saw the Fugitive the wreck blew me away and still does. I knew that those were real locos and rolling stock not models. It was just too great of a scene to be faked and still the best train wreck scene out there.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

There was a very large scale model built. Planet Hollywood in Times Square had a model GP30 and one or two cars on display. I wonder what its purpose was. I want to see all the raw footage.

Jess Stone

I agree! Every time I see it, I marvel!

ParkerFriends

3y↑2

Nothing beats going on a train and seeing a train wreck.

Joel Sanford

4y↑3

I remember seeing this video when I was little! I've been looking for it for years!

Stephen Matura

4y↑302

Can you imagine, 'Waddya mean you forgot to put the film in the camera!'

Robert Gambling

3y↑2

They had about ten cameras at various locations to make sure.

SD 90Mac

3y↑2

What, what, what, oh don't say that, 😦😧😳😲😲😳🤯😱😵😭 LOL 🤣

OwenDino Studios

3y↑2

That would be the worst

3801 productions

3y↑5

“GOD DAMMINT JOHNNY YOUR GETTING FIRED”

Andrea Ramirez

@Dennis Williams k7lkn is a morning

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Norman Rowe

4y↑4

David Lean blew up and derailed 2 full sized, real trains, in 2 of his movies. Bridge over the river Kwai, and Lawrence of Arabia. Check them out.

mistermodified1

4y↑2

Don't know about lawrence of arabia but the bridge over the river kwai train was narrow gauge, so yes a real train but somewhat smaller than these engines and cars.

peperoncino

3y↑1

I watched this movie today for the first time in quite a while. Hollywood movies from the 90's are still the best.

FDNY_Fan1

The livery on the locomotive is beautiful

Elmer Slick

3y↑31

After watching "The Fugitive", my ditzy friend said, "It's a good thing that bus crashed, or he never could have escaped!" Me: Well if the bus didn't crash, they would have changed the name of the movie to "The Prisoner".

Bushrod Rust Johnson

2y↑1

There was a reimagining called "The Fudgitive", which also took place in prison. Sequel to "Run A Gay Train".

Robert C

4y↑9

What about the stuntman jumping out of the bus at the last second? That looked legit as hell

kpkndusa

4y↑3

The movie The General with Buster Keaton used a real train going down through a burning bridge in 1926. I think the best train wreck scene was in the 2011 film Super 8. Real or not it was spectacular.

railtrolley

4y↑2

The General wreck was a "one take" scene too. I think they used many cameras to film it: to make sure they got the shot.

Garden Railroading Join The Fun

4y↑3

Just amazing! Thank you.

Alyssa 27

4y↑4

I had this on dvd and used to watch it all the time. I love how he pronounces pipes

microbusss

4y↑41

this wreck is STILL there!
course I wants the locos in HO scale!

Bushrod Rust Johnson

Someone made a bombed out HO Illinois Southern GP30 sitting on timber blocks on a flatcar.

MIKES0029

Awesome history!!

Aaron Peavler/Geomodelrailroader Railroad Photography

4y↑5

Up the road from here in Pittsburg and in Cumberland they did it again for Unstoppable where they flipped an SD40 on its side and made a Dash 9 lean into a curve.

TrainFan119

ConrailFan76 yeah

Gary Bangle Bangle

4y↑2

It is a great place to visit. Ride the train and see part of North Carolina. You will enjoy it. Last time I was at wreck was back in late 90s.

Ricky Greenleaf-Payne

4y↑3

Well that was very interesting and entertaining. Thanks

DJGrumpy Geezer

3y↑2

“Warner Brothers says the full scale staged railroad wreck was the first in US history.” Sorry folks, that honor went to Buster Keaton in his movie “The General,” way back in the 1920. The drove a steam locomotive onto a burning trestle and dropped it into a river. The poor man still can’t get any respect from Hollywood. Steal gags from him? Sure, all the time. Honor his genius? Nah.

welshpete12

3y↑2

We did one over here for film . The loco a class 47 ended up in a field , after running through a stop block . We had one hell of a job getting it out again . It ended up, having to take the body off the bogies and remove the diesel engine .

Bushrod Rust Johnson

Does Britain have no sidewinders?

Stuff_N_Thanngs

3y↑1

Can you imagine the crew like, you want me to do what?? You kick this car so it can go in the ditch, on purpose? 😂

Katara54224/ creeperkiller497

4y↑5

Poor GP30 #536 with a High Nose those engines are really rare to see.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

The U18 might be rarer.

Bassotronics

3y↑1

Can somebody explain to me in the movie when the bus is rolling downhill how come the bus appears completely sideways to the tracks?
Shouldn’t the front and back of the bus be aligned with the tracks?

Jim Murray

3y↑1

Buster Keaton in The General had a real train wreck. That was released in 1927.

Sodor of Memes

Two diesel freight trains have been abandoned, good thing that steam locomotives of Great Smoky Mountain railway can pass those abandoned diesel trains after 1993

Buncle Duncle

3y↑5

I just realized. One of those locos is a high hood GP30

C Porter

4y↑4

the engine and the buss is still there. People can visit it.

Bill tribble

3y↑2

I am surprised the RR
put all the time in to
help with the movie
stunt. Warner brothers
must have paid alot
to the RR for the work
they did.

Quill Maurer

3y↑2

The mention of dynamite in the PVC pipes to cause the track to fall over - why was that necessary? I don't know what size PVC pipe was used, but it certainly wouldn't support the weight of a train. Would have buckled and shattered on it's own. Regardless quite a feat, no replacement for reality in filming. Watching the scene in the movie, it actually feels like they could have done more with it, not that much is seen (it's night, and we're mostly just seeing Harrison Ford's perspective), would have been relatively easy to do with film trickery. Though I guess that it didn't feel over-the-top like some movie crashes is actually the good result of a real train wreck - it was real, not absurdly overdone.

John LeBaron

it's still fun to watch when cable TV runs this movie it to see if they run the older version with the "ghost" in it. There's clearly a guy with a ball cap on looking back when the train comes to a stop and Harrison Ford looks up. Later the studio edited him out when it was re-released. Did anyone ever figure out who or what that guy was?

Sharptooth100

3y↑1

Those train engines must restore like new so they are ready for freight and passengers.

Muhamad Rajo Alamsyah

4y↑5

Its kind of sad that those trains they left them abandoned

Benthetrainkid

4y↑4

What's ever gonna happen to the locomotives that have been sitting there since filming concluded?

Ken Jackson

4y↑7

Apparently it's still making money for them, so why move it?

Ashley Haynes

3y↑1

You can still pass by the wreck if you take the Great Smokey Mountain Railway in Bryson City ☠️

Nicholas Medovich

4y↑4

FYI the open cars that were converted from flatcars were sadly scrapped in 2016 or so.

Nicholas Medovich

@mrtrainz14 rotted to the frame

mrtrainz14

4y↑1

Wonder why

Mitch Thompson

4y↑2

Ya but how did they get the train to jump off the tracks and chase him through the woods?

Mike Taylor

3y↑1

Wait, you're not going to end that with the actual clip from the movie!!!???

OakRail

0:59 ironically 777 was scraped first before the two fugitive units

MadMan Machinations

2y↑1

I bet the railroad boys involved with this had fun wrecking trains on purpose.

MsBackstager

Great intense moments.

HMS Hood

Remember y’all, no ones stopping you from taking the stuff that’s still there.

Oregon Railfan

4y↑3

HMS Hood why you encouraging people to steal stuff from old locomotive's that's illegal you jackass

Ethan Schmid

Little did the entire crew knew they soon realize that a ghost was seen in the shot where Harrison Ford was looking from the wreckage and nobody, not even Harrison Ford himself recognize knew who that was. I think they called it “The Fugitive Ghost” or something like that.

Dan’s Hobbies

3y↑4

Back when they actually had to use their brains and ingenuity to make movies. Now it’s all green screen, taking the art out of the movies.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

@Alpal .mp4 Yeah, but they don't do all that that often. "We're smokin bowls and we're overlapping objects", Sam Gerard might say.

Alpal .mp4

somewhat, but it's still art with CGI, since it takes alot of work in order to storyboard and correctly animate it, especially trying to make it look real and blending it into the footage.

Man0fMeans

4y↑1

That isn't the great smokey mountain. The air is perfectly clear.

dT6E7hmja4iXjsJw

4y↑9

I had thought that that scene was done with models. I'll have to pay closer attention next time I see it.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

There was a very large scale model. It was on display at Planet Hollywood in Times Square.

LetMeDwight

2:40 This track looks larger than normal.

Blue Foxy

4y↑56

4:10 "was the first done in the United States by the film industry"
Buster ketons the General: * doubt *

Able Magawitch

3y↑1

@Caesar Seriona Shame they logged all the old growth forests and burned through that wood resource huh? Because of that un- regulated and non sustainable logging practices the Notre-Dame de Cathedral can't be rebuilt back to what it was. There is no where to get the trees to cut make those large old beams from original growth trees for that size. That is due to no large enough tree(s) left to cut down for the wooden beams that burned in the fire. If you look at the old logging photos and the trees they cut down, you will see what is logged today is fail comparison to the wood quality and size of yester year. The logging rail roads failed because they stripped all the resources and than ran themselves out of territory. Even today to get the bigger trees they have to log areas that were left because the wood wasn't worth the risk or cost to get out. Those trains you see rusting were parked and stored with plans to reuse them, and if not reuse then to sell them to another company, which far better than smashing them into pieces like toddler for amusement.

Those engines were left sitting outside with plans to reuse or sell them. The fact they went to rust was a case of people who didn't care about preservation "because they knows what they gots" and would rather it rust to worthless scrap than let someone have it less than what they thought it was worth, or what it was worth way back when..... When they wrecked the trains for entertainment they were deliberately destroying them, robbing smaller railroads chance of using using them, and/or historic railroads a chance to have example. Then comes the far too dangerous for today's world, where they used take the old steam engine and set them up on on rails in parks and lets kids climb all over them. Even through the boiler and into the old fire box. I was lucky enough to get play on what was a stream locomotive before it became fenced off and the cab welded into a cage with wooden deck/pier to walk into the cab and that's it. Sad state from from used to be one of the reason to go to the park, which was to play on that train engine. Instead of the now a kid gets to stand in the cab with metal bars welded over every window and door way, they even closed off the tender, has walking into where the wood was stored was too dangerous for today's world. Not Much pretend to play for being the equivalent of a jail cell.... The fence is high enough to stop young adults from climbing over so you can't even look out the window and across the park for country side view, instead its blocked by "safety fencing"... If city/county parks department installed the old diesel engines in the parks and let kids climb on them and open the doors to the engines, it would be better playground. Kids would of course get hurt some but that is part of learning boundaries and risks. Plus it gives curious kids place to explore beside actual working cars and engines on live tracks.

A lot of abandoned trains didn't start out abandoned, there is engine and some equipment on side of creek, up in small mountain town. Remnants of that local area's railroad that is right beside their major highway. That is because a bridge washed out on poorly maintained line, which caused it to now be stuck on the last 1/2 mile or so of track. The road paved over the tracks years /decades ago. While the rest of the rail system is being reclaimed by nature on the other side. Since my teen years( many decades ago), I have looked at and watch it hoping the small communities would get the money somehow to at lest get it on the main tracks or have it moved by tow truck 1/8 mile as the crow flies less than 1 mile by tow truck/equipment movers (small switcher engine is the largest) to the larger segment of track. Had it been used for amusement by wrecking it would have been lost to history, today it still sits "" in situ"" for people to inquire and learn their local railroad history.

Caesar Seriona

@Able Magawitch At least smashing a train out of service is better than some of the engines I've seen. Here in WA state, there is a lot of train graveyards due to the state not logging as much as they did a 100 years ago and they let these just sit in the open not taking care of them collecting rust. That pisses me off more than making a few hundred bucks on a destruction.

Able Magawitch

@Holy Khan Sorry that comment was so horrid, cleaned it up so it makes little more sense. Sorry you got hit with a failed sleep med post reply.

Able Magawitch

3y↑2

Holy Khan

3y↑3

When they say the film industry, I think they mean the monstrous, corporate film industry. Not trained acting professionals making their own films using their own crews.

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Gary Bangle Bangle

4y↑1

It is a great place to visit. Ride the train and see part of North Carolina. You will enjoy it. Last time I was at wreck was back in late 90s.

Amor Nihil Timor!

4y↑1

The last time... lol

Christopher Berry

The Greatest staged train wreck in history? Apparently they never heard of The Crash at Crush.

Buncle Duncle

4y↑15

WE NEED THESE THINGS PRESERVED! Not even repaired.

Mitch Thompson

Now... do the making of the Wrongfully Accused train wreck.

HALON747

3y↑1

Take that CGI 😂

Taylor Williams

3y↑2

Now that I think about it, Harrison Ford is pretty fortunate to be alive. That’s horrifying; running away from a speeding train on foot. If he’d have tripped and fell or stumbled even a little, he’d be dead. I think I’d be too scared to try that stunt.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

2y↑1

@rear speaker That historic aircraft should have been in some kind of protective institutional public setting for exhibition.

rear speaker

2y↑1

he's already tried to kill himself landing his aircraft a few years ago!

Rprince418

3y↑1

What about the part where the train plays hide and seek with him in the forest?

Mile 290 Productions

3y↑1

The poor EMD GP30 And GE C30-7.

Able Magawitch

3y↑1

I thinking the announcer of the tour train going by at 4:04 probably meant that is was the first "diesel train engines" wreck from real trains not models by Warner Brothers Studio. Because wrecking old steam engines and their train cars is on numerous films . Which only a small fraction of the early films survive today, due to no preservation efforts (no resell value after release ) so copies were destroyed and trashed. The actual film stock deteriorated due to what it was made from. Train wrecking into each other was even evens t done at State Fairs (we we have film footage of and photos) as shows for crowds of people who bought tickets. There were a lot of steam trains destroyed for entertainment then sent to be scrapped afterwards. Might as well make that extra dollar or two before you just take it for the metal.... The sheer number of engine destroyed and not preserved is saddening. Even if it delight the crowds gathered and out great (great) grand parents......

Bushrod Rust Johnson

2y↑1

One of those spectacle wrecks killed some spectators.

Charles Askings

Some poor maintainer going to get yelled at for not keeping the houses clean from all the graffiti vandalism

Aussie Pom

3y↑1

All is not what it seems with the GP 30. If you have the movie do a frame advance and where the loco comes to rest supposedly over Harrison Ford, have a look at the underside of the loco and see that there's no traction motors on the axles so no wonder the loco had to be pushed.

Nicholas Medovich

Rare U18B in that crash. Not to mention a high hood GP38 and I think a GP16 as well (rebuilt GP18

Sch_ ilis

4y↑7

I mean, it's cool, but how many high hood gp30s are out there? Not very many.

Katara54224/ creeperkiller497

So most likely 10 or lower.

Katara54224/ creeperkiller497

I looked up some GP30's with high hoods and found a NS model Number #522.

Valentino Cule

3y↑1

And fun fact that train is still there and also bus

LouisianaMainlineProductions

Unstoppable did one with real locomotives
Plus super 8

Holy Khan

"Luckily, no one was hurt."

The MN Railfan 227

4y↑107

R.I.P High hood GP30

The MN Railfan 227

@Runawayfreak Gaming true

Runawayfreak Gaming

3y↑2

In a sense the engine was a wreck when the movie makers bought it from scrap. Now people can atleast see the engine as a tourist attraction rather then it getting scrapped.

Alpal .mp4

3y↑2

@Chesapeake & Seaboard Productions the SD designation is only used on six axle EMDs, it's not an interchangeable term for highhoods

Carson Prince

3y↑2

@Chesapeake & Seaboard Productions No, they weren't known as SD30's. They were just high hood GP30's.

Oregon Railfan

4y↑3

The MN railfan 1003 the engine is Norfolk and western 536

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Sean Lamb

4y↑10

The on-train recording said that this was the first staged railway wreck in the U.S for a movie. That is not quite correct. The wreck in Buster Keaton's "The General" was staged and filmed in Oregon in 1926.

pauldzim

3y↑1

Huh. I always thought that scene was done with models. I guess they wasted a lot of money doing it for real.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

They did have a model too.

Ronan Vave

4y↑2

The sad thing is, the remains of the wreck are left to rot.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

That's not sad.

BloodmoonGrizzly The first

4y↑4

Why is it sad? they was going to go under the scrap mans torch anyways. Better for the area to use the trains as a tourist destination at least then they still have some life and Glory.

Wisconsin and Northwestern Railroad

The Dill Pickle it’s actually a u18b not an Alco

C Dills

4y↑1

And a GP30 high hood and an Alco

hifijohn

4y↑4

One goof they shouldnt have used a flat car with logs, there is no logging in the chicagoland area.

Bushrod Rust Johnson

The tree services in Chicago are saving decent timber now and you can occasionally see a tractor trailer loaded with logs.

Caesar Seriona

3y↑1

Also. Using logs is a good way to test physics of a crash. A lot of movies do that because it's cheap to buy the logs and wreck them.

chooch1995

3y↑1

The location was supposed to be southern Illinois....which is a world away from the Chicago area. Southern Illinois is so southern that it contains one of the northernmost cypress swamps. Yes, there’s logging in southern Illinois.

Timothy Barney

There is also a close up shot, I think of them pulling the guard out from under the engine, that reveals the lack of traction motors on the locomotive.

Max Q

4y↑5

First, it was a test trial with the log car. Second, log cars can go through Chicago, they don’t have to come from there

bill beare

4y↑2

Where's the 'one armed' man ?.😄🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

ʟɨʍɛʀɛռƈɛ

4y↑11

"My my my my my, what a mess."

HEADBANGERSBALLER

3y↑2

"I don't care."

iMac G3

4y↑24

Me at 11pm: Time for bed!

Youtube at 3am: Wanna watch a train wreck? And read the comments full of crying apes?

Daniel Koot

3y↑1

0317. Yep.

Katara54224/ creeperkiller497

4y↑3

One word: "bruh"

Nayo oropeza

What about the movie Runaway Train with Jon Flight, Eric Roberts and Rebecca Dr Mornay, I seem to recall a train wreck somewhere in that movie!

Bushrod Rust Johnson

The caboose wreck was done with O scale models.

D Shack

Scene from The Fugitive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LF4I1S9rOo

whoohaaXL

3y↑1

First? And no-one mentions 1961s "Ring of Fire" train wreck? Washington state? Plenty before that too.

NorfolkSouthernBoy415

Wowwww

Indrid Cold

2y↑1

Today, a failed video game artist would make mediocre CGI effects, with poor physics rendering, poor light rendering, and inconsistencies. CGI, when done right, can be spectacular. However, it seems most efforts on making then spectacular are weak.